Guest guest Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 Dear Visti JI! Namaskar Prabhuji, Can You kindly answer this doubts : > 1. The Moons and their lordships match each other – this is the first step > in seeing sambandha. > > 2. Neither of their Lagna's are Ghätaka to their Moons. When Lagna is Ghataka to Moon ? > > 3. The boys Tithi is a Rikta Tithi (Chaturthi, Navami and Chaturdasi) which > is Ghätaka to Moons in Libra or Capricorn, so the boy may cause a lot of > emotional pain to the girl, and based on that I will not go any further in > advising the match. Can You please explain which Tithi are Gathaka to which Moon signs ? ps. do my interpretation on antar in d-9 is all-right ? with respect, Rafal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Rafal, Namaskar Read this: http://srath.com/lectures/ghatak.htm and you will know everything. Best wishes, font-weight:bold"> bold"> color:#99CC00;font-weight:bold">Visti Larsen Verdana;color:#99CC00"> color:#99CC00">http://srigaruda.com color:#99CC00">visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com font-family:Verdana;color:#4E81C4"> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">jyotraff [jyotraff ] 30 November 2004 05:47 [Om Krishna Guru] compatibility - ghataka - To Visti 12.0pt"> font-family:"Courier New""> Dear Visti JI! Namaskar Prabhuji, Can You kindly answer this doubts : > 1. The Moons and their lordships match each other – this is the first step > in seeing sambandha. > > 2. Neither of their Lagna's are Ghätaka to their Moons. When Lagna is Ghataka to Moon ? > > 3. The boys Tithi is a Rikta Tithi (Chaturthi, Navami and Chaturdasi) which > is Ghätaka to Moons in Libra or Capricorn, so the boy may cause a lot of > emotional pain to the girl, and based on that I will not go any further in > advising the match. Can You please explain which Tithi are Gathaka to which Moon signs ? ps. do my interpretation on antar in d-9 is all-right ? with respect, Rafal ~ om tat sat ~ 10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.nod32.com Attachment: (image/gif) image001.gif [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar > > Read this: http://srath.com/lectures/ghatak.htm and you will know > everything. Thank You very much, teacher. with respect, Rafal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 Dear Visti, I've just read the suggested text on gathaka from Sanjay-In the Rajiv Gandhi example, it's assumed that he caused enmity from his godman, who in revenge killed him or worked on that, at least- I would say that it was Rajiv who was hurt the most- on mundane level, at least, to kill-be killed is considered the top sign of enmity.They were inimical to each other, based on GC info, but how can one know who would harm first? My guess is: we don't. Am I missing something? Thanks, Annajyotraff <jyotraff > wrote: , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote:> ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > Dear Rafal, Namaskar> > Read this: http://srath.com/lectures/ghatak.htm and you will know> everything.Thank You very much, teacher.with respect,Rafal~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today The all-new My – What will yours do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 PS: I am also wondering where Ghataka phenomenon is extracted from-theoretical base/the source - 2/12 and 6/8 /bad/ relationship combinations apply in some, but not in all cases. And not all naksatras are included, I've noticed. It's hard to find the dominant rule here. perhaps not for you, Visti? "A.R." <bonamente108 > wrote: Dear Visti, I've just read the suggested text on gathaka from Sanjay-In the Rajiv Gandhi example, it's assumed that he caused enmity from his godman, who in revenge killed him or worked on that, at least- I would say that it was Rajiv who was hurt the most- on mundane level, at least, to kill-be killed is considered the top sign of enmity.They were inimical to each other, based on GC info, but how can one know who would harm first? My guess is: we don't. Am I missing something? Thanks, Annajyotraff <jyotraff > wrote: , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote:> ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > Dear Rafal, Namaskar> > Read this: http://srath.com/lectures/ghatak.htm and you will know> everything.Thank You very much, teacher.with respect,Rafal~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today The all-new My – What will yours do? All your favorites on one personal page – Try My Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2004 Report Share Posted December 1, 2004 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Anna, Namaskar We can know how it all started, but honestly is it relevant? Its just the same fight repeating from past lives, infact the real test which was put upon these two individuals was whether or not they would stop fighting each other and get out of this bondage of repeated enimity. As far as facts are concerned – Rajiv Gandhi was assasinated by the Tamil Tigers due to India’s intervention in the civil war in Sri Lanka. So it would be wrong to say that his “Godman” had a direct hand in these events… but he was a Godman and I’m sure he was learned in some very powerful tantric mantra’s. So God ONLY knows what this Godman did. Best wishes, font-weight:bold"> bold"> color:#99CC00;font-weight:bold">Visti Larsen Verdana;color:#99CC00"> color:#99CC00">http://srigaruda.com color:#99CC00">visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com font-family:Verdana;color:#4E81C4"> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">A.R. [bonamente108 ] 01 December 2004 04:49 Re: [Om Krishna Guru] compatibility - ghataka - To Visti 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Dear Visti, 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">I've just read the suggested text on gathaka from Sanjay-In the Rajiv Gandhi example, it's assumed that he caused enmity from his godman, 12.0pt">who in revenge killed him or worked on that, at least- I would say that it was Rajiv who was hurt the most- on mundane level, at least, to kill-be killed is considered the top sign of enmity.They were inimical to each other, based on GC info, but how can one know who would harm first? My guess is: we don't. Am I missing something? 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Thanks, 12.0pt">Anna jyotraff <jyotraff > wrote: margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar > > Read this: http://srath.com/lectures/ghatak.htm and you will know > everything. Thank You very much, teacher. with respect, Rafal ~ om tat sat ~ 10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today 12.0pt"> The all-new My What will yours do? ~ om tat sat ~ Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.nod32.com Attachment: (image/gif) image001.gif [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2004 Report Share Posted December 1, 2004 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Anna, Namaskar There is a way to go about understanding it – for Nakshatra Ghätaka its easy as the Nakshatras will always be in the 5th sign from the specific sign – and it will be that Nakshatra which wholly occupies the sign. Incase of Nakshatras in the watery signs, it will be the 2nd last one. I had ascertained a basis which almost worked with the Chandra Rasi, but I’d rather keep it to myself for now… as its ALMOST consistent. Best wishes, font-weight:bold"> bold"> color:#99CC00;font-weight:bold">Visti Larsen Verdana;color:#99CC00"> color:#99CC00">http://srigaruda.com color:#99CC00">visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com font-family:Verdana;color:#4E81C4"> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">A.R. [bonamente108 ] 01 December 2004 06:52 Re: [Om Krishna Guru] compatibility - ghataka - To Visti 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">PS: I am also wondering where Ghataka phenomenon is extracted from-theoretical base/the source - 2/12 and 6/8 /bad/ relationship combinations apply in some, but not in all cases. And not all naksatras are included, I've noticed. It's hard to find the dominant rule here. perhaps not for you, Visti? "A.R." <bonamente108 > wrote: 12.0pt">Dear Visti, 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">I've just read the suggested text on gathaka from Sanjay-In the Rajiv Gandhi example, it's assumed that he caused enmity from his godman, 12.0pt">who in revenge killed him or worked on that, at least- I would say that it was Rajiv who was hurt the most- on mundane level, at least, to kill-be killed is considered the top sign of enmity.They were inimical to each other, based on GC info, but how can one know who would harm first? My guess is: we don't. Am I missing something? 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Thanks, 12.0pt">Anna jyotraff <jyotraff > wrote: margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar > > Read this: http://srath.com/lectures/ghatak.htm and you will know > everything. Thank You very much, teacher. with respect, Rafal ~ om tat sat ~ 10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today 12.0pt"> The all-new My What will yours do? 12.0pt"> All your favorites on one personal page Try My ~ om tat sat ~ Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.nod32.com Attachment: (image/gif) image001.gif [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2004 Report Share Posted December 1, 2004 Good response. 'Almost consistent' is not enough for you - to divulge the findings! Perfectionism or intelectual honesty, or both, LOL! I like both- it's hard to find, really.. BTW is there any absolute consistency in astrology, I am wondering. As for the first part- you are right: it IS irrelevant who started the emnity first, that would be too superficial, indeed- I wasn't clear enough- I believe that it's always, to a various degree of course, two-way street- in relationships- victim-culprit issue, I mean.In close relationships, in particular, you don't know how much 'secondary' gratification the 'crying' part derives from the situation, but must be some, otherwise the relationship wouldn't exist...Have I made my Q-doubt clearer? Thanks, Visti AnnaVisti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Anna, Namaskar There is a way to go about understanding it – for Nakshatra Ghätaka its easy as the Nakshatras will always be in the 5th sign from the specific sign – and it will be that Nakshatra which wholly occupies the sign. Incase of Nakshatras in the watery signs, it will be the 2nd last one. I had ascertained a basis which almost worked with the Chandra Rasi, but I’d rather keep it to myself for now… as its ALMOST consistent. Best wishes, Visti Larsen http://srigaruda.com visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com A.R. [bonamente108 ] 01 December 2004 06:52To: Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] compatibility - ghataka - To Visti PS: I am also wondering where Ghataka phenomenon is extracted from-theoretical base/the source - 2/12 and 6/8 /bad/ relationship combinations apply in some, but not in all cases. And not all naksatras are included, I've noticed. It's hard to find the dominant rule here. perhaps not for you, Visti? "A.R." <bonamente108 > wrote: Dear Visti, I've just read the suggested text on gathaka from Sanjay-In the Rajiv Gandhi example, it's assumed that he caused enmity from his godman, who in revenge killed him or worked on that, at least- I would say that it was Rajiv who was hurt the most- on mundane level, at least, to kill-be killed is considered the top sign of enmity.They were inimical to each other, based on GC info, but how can one know who would harm first? My guess is: we don't. Am I missing something? Thanks, Annajyotraff <jyotraff > wrote: , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote:> ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > Dear Rafal, Namaskar> > Read this: http://srath.com/lectures/ghatak.htm and you will know> everything.Thank You very much, teacher.with respect, New">Rafal~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today The all-new My What will yours do? All your favorites on one personal page Try My ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.http://www.nod32.com ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Take Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2004 Report Share Posted December 2, 2004 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Anna, Rajiv Gandhi’s arudha Lagna has rahu in the 3rd from it. Malefics in 3rd from arudha lagna show action one performs which can hurt others. The Godman has only Ketu in the 6th from arudha lagna, so he will only be instigated by circumstances to hurt others – i.e. he will feel forced to cause pain. This means that Rajiv Gandhi was the one likely to have made the first blow. This is consistent. Best wishes, font-weight:bold"> bold"> color:#99CC00;font-weight:bold">Visti Larsen Verdana;color:#99CC00"> color:#99CC00">http://srigaruda.com color:#99CC00">visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com font-family:Verdana;color:#4E81C4"> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">A.R. [bonamente108 ] 02 December 2004 00:11 RE: [Om Krishna Guru] compatibility - ghataka - To Visti 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Dear Visti, 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Good response. 'Almost consistent' is not enough for you - to divulge the findings! Perfectionism or intelectual honesty, or both, LOL! I like both- it's hard to find, really.. 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">BTW is there any absolute consistency in astrology, I am wondering. 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">As for the first part- you are right: it IS irrelevant who started the emnity first, that would be too superficial, indeed- I wasn't clear enough- I believe that it's always, to a various degree of course, two-way street- in relationships- victim-culprit issue, I mean.In close relationships, in particular, you don't know how much 'secondary' gratification the 'crying' part derives from the situation, but must be some, otherwise the relationship wouldn't exist...Have I made my Q-doubt clearer? 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Thanks, Visti 12.0pt">Anna Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Anna, Namaskar There is a way to go about understanding it for Nakshatra Ghdtaka its easy as the Nakshatras will always be in the 5th sign from the specific sign and it will be that Nakshatra which wholly occupies the sign. Incase of Nakshatras in the watery signs, it will be the 2nd last one. I had ascertained a basis which almost worked with the Chandra Rasi, but Id rather keep it to myself for now as its ALMOST consistent. Best wishes, font-weight:bold"> color:#4E81C4;font-weight:bold"> color:#99CC00;font-weight:bold">Visti Larsen Verdana;color:#99CC00"> color:#99CC00">http://srigaruda.com color:#99CC00">visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com font-family:Verdana;color:#4E81C4"> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">A.R. [bonamente108 ] 01 December 2004 06:52 Re: [Om Krishna Guru] compatibility - ghataka - To Visti 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">PS: I am also wondering where Ghataka phenomenon is extracted from-theoretical base/the source - 2/12 and 6/8 /bad/ relationship combinations apply in some, but not in all cases. And not all naksatras are included, I've noticed. It's hard to find the dominant rule here. perhaps not for you, Visti? "A.R." <bonamente108 > wrote: 12.0pt">Dear Visti, 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">I've just read the suggested text on gathaka from Sanjay-In the Rajiv Gandhi example, it's assumed that he caused enmity from his godman, 12.0pt">who in revenge killed him or worked on that, at least- I would say that it was Rajiv who was hurt the most- on mundane level, at least, to kill-be killed is considered the top sign of enmity.They were inimical to each other, based on GC info, but how can one know who would harm first? My guess is: we don't. Am I missing something? 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Thanks, 12.0pt">Anna jyotraff <jyotraff > wrote: margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar > > Read this: http://srath.com/lectures/ghatak.htm and you will know > everything. Thank You very much, teacher. with respect, Rafal ~ om tat sat ~ 10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today 12.0pt"> The all-new My What will yours do? All your favorites on one personal page Try My ~ om tat sat ~ Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today 12.0pt"> __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.nod32.com ~ om tat sat ~ Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today 12.0pt"> Take Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. ~ om tat sat ~ Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.nod32.com Attachment: (image/gif) image001.gif [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2004 Report Share Posted December 2, 2004 Yes, it does make sense-and it is consistent, on this level. /but from the logical point of view, it doesn't- how could anybody involved, let alone 'proficient' and practicing harming black magic stuff be considered 'without intention to harm' - there is an inherent contradiction here- one would avoid even exposure to BM knowledge, if that was true, I would guess?/ Regards, Anna Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Anna, Rajiv Gandhi’s arudha Lagna has rahu in the 3rd from it. Malefics in 3rd from arudha lagna show action one performs which can hurt others. The Godman has only Ketu in the 6th from arudha lagna, so he will only be instigated by circumstances to hurt others – i.e. he will feel forced to cause pain. This means that Rajiv Gandhi was the one likely to have made the first blow. This is consistent. Best wishes, Visti Larsen http://srigaruda.com visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com A.R. [bonamente108 ] 02 December 2004 00:11To: Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] compatibility - ghataka - To Visti Dear Visti, Good response. 'Almost consistent' is not enough for you - to divulge the findings! Perfectionism or intelectual honesty, or both, LOL! I like both- it's hard to find, really.. BTW is there any absolute consistency in astrology, I am wondering. As for the first part- you are right: it IS irrelevant who started the emnity first, that would be too superficial, indeed- I wasn't clear enough- I believe that it's always, to a various degree of course, two-way street- in relationships- victim-culprit issue, I mean.In close relationships, in particular, you don't know how much 'secondary' gratification the 'crying' part derives from the situation, but must be some, otherwise the relationship wouldn't exist...Have I made my Q-doubt clearer? Thanks, Visti AnnaVisti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Anna, Namaskar There is a way to go about understanding it for Nakshatra Ghdtaka its easy as the Nakshatras will always be in the 5th sign from the specific sign and it will be that Nakshatra which wholly occupies the sign. Incase of Nakshatras in the watery signs, it will be the 2nd last one. I had ascertained a basis which almost worked with the Chandra Rasi, but Id rather keep it to myself for now as its ALMOST consistent. Best wishes, Visti Larsen http://srigaruda.com visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com A.R. [bonamente108 ] 01 December 2004 06:52To: Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] compatibility - ghataka - To Visti PS: I am also wondering where Ghataka phenomenon is extracted from-theoretical base/the source - 2/12 and 6/8 /bad/ relationship combinations apply in some, but not in all cases. And not all naksatras are included, I've noticed. It's hard to find the dominant rule here. perhaps not for you, Visti? "A.R." <bonamente108 > wrote: Dear Visti, I've just read the suggested text on gathaka from Sanjay-In the Rajiv Gandhi example, it's assumed that he caused enmity from his godman, who in revenge killed him or worked on that, at least- I would say that it was Rajiv who was hurt the most- on mundane level, at least, to kill-be killed is considered the top sign of enmity.They were inimical to each other, based on GC info, but how can one know who would harm first? My guess is: we don't. Am I missing something? Thanks, Annajyotraff <jyotraff > wrote: , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote:> ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > Dear Rafal, Namaskar> > Read this: http://srath.com/lectures/ghatak.htm and you will know> everything.Thank You very much, teacher.with respect, 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Rafal~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today The all-new My What will yours do? All your favorites on one personal page Try My ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.http://www.nod32.com ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. 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Guest guest Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Anna, Namaskar There is a fine line here. See many of those who learn the sacred rights get initiated into methods to protect themselves. That is; they learn about sacred weapons which can be used to protect them from harm. If you read the story about Sri Rama, he was given all the divine weapons (known as astras) which through mantra’s are used to strike. Another popular story is between Vishvamitra and Vashista. Usually this is not a major part of the sacred rights, and the aim is to avoid the native in undertaking fights with others openly, and instead focussing their attention to God. Now a problem comes when a person profficient in these rites decides to use them for their own career development… then we have a problem. The native in question was very learned in a particular rite of Kamakshi, and was a very strong devotee. Stories go that he could hypnotize a person just by reciting a mantra and snapping his fingers, leaving the person at his beck and call. He was once cited to have used this ability to help a woman avoid herself from making a fool of herself at a public party. But I guess greed got a hold of him, and then he would be on the defensive against anyone who would trouble his finances. So the word – black magician applies to a person who uses their powers for evil. But a person may be well learned in these rites and still not use it for evil. There is a specific way to find out, and this is based on the planets which aspect the karakamsa. i.e. if malefics aspect, they will lure the native into dark practices, whislt if benefics aspect the native will use the knowledge for good purposes. Best wishes, font-weight:bold"> bold"> color:#99CC00;font-weight:bold">Visti Larsen Verdana;color:#99CC00"> color:#99CC00">http://srigaruda.com color:#99CC00">visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com font-family:Verdana;color:#4E81C4"> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">A.R. [bonamente108 ] 03 December 2004 01:55 RE: [Om Krishna Guru] compatibility - ghataka - To Visti 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Dear Visti, 12.0pt">Yes, it does make sense-and it is consistent, on this level. 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">/but from the logical point of view, it doesn't- how could anybody involved, let alone 'proficient' and practicing harming black magic stuff be considered 'without intention to harm' - there is an inherent contradiction here- one would avoid even exposure to BM knowledge, if that was true, I would guess?/ 12.0pt">Regards, 12.0pt">Anna 12.0pt"> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Anna, Rajiv Gandhis arudha Lagna has rahu in the 3rd from it. Malefics in 3rd from arudha lagna show action one performs which can hurt others. The Godman has only Ketu in the 6th from arudha lagna, so he will only be instigated by circumstances to hurt others i.e. he will feel forced to cause pain. This means that Rajiv Gandhi was the one likely to have made the first blow. This is consistent. Best wishes, font-weight:bold"> color:#4E81C4;font-weight:bold"> color:#99CC00;font-weight:bold">Visti Larsen Verdana;color:#99CC00"> color:#99CC00">http://srigaruda.com color:#99CC00">visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com font-family:Verdana;color:#4E81C4"> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">A.R. [bonamente108 ] 02 December 2004 00:11 RE: [Om Krishna Guru] compatibility - ghataka - To Visti 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Dear Visti, 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Good response. 'Almost consistent' is not enough for you - to divulge the findings! Perfectionism or intelectual honesty, or both, LOL! I like both- it's hard to find, really.. 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">BTW is there any absolute consistency in astrology, I am wondering. 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">As for the first part- you are right: it IS irrelevant who started the emnity first, that would be too superficial, indeed- I wasn't clear enough- I believe that it's always, to a various degree of course, two-way street- in relationships- victim-culprit issue, I mean.In close relationships, in particular, you don't know how much 'secondary' gratification the 'crying' part derives from the situation, but must be some, otherwise the relationship wouldn't exist...Have I made my Q-doubt clearer? 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Thanks, Visti 12.0pt">Anna Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Anna, Namaskar There is a way to go about understanding it for Nakshatra Ghdtaka its easy as the Nakshatras will always be in the 5th sign from the specific sign and it will be that Nakshatra which wholly occupies the sign. Incase of Nakshatras in the watery signs, it will be the 2nd last one. I had ascertained a basis which almost worked with the Chandra Rasi, but Id rather keep it to myself for now as its ALMOST consistent. Best wishes, font-weight:bold"> color:#4E81C4;font-weight:bold"> color:#99CC00;font-weight:bold">Visti Larsen Verdana;color:#99CC00"> color:#99CC00">http://srigaruda.com color:#99CC00">visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com font-family:Verdana;color:#4E81C4"> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">A.R. [bonamente108 ] 01 December 2004 06:52 Re: [Om Krishna Guru] compatibility - ghataka - To Visti 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">PS: I am also wondering where Ghataka phenomenon is extracted from-theoretical base/the source - 2/12 and 6/8 /bad/ relationship combinations apply in some, but not in all cases. And not all naksatras are included, I've noticed. It's hard to find the dominant rule here. perhaps not for you, Visti? "A.R." <bonamente108 > wrote: 12.0pt">Dear Visti, 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">I've just read the suggested text on gathaka from Sanjay-In the Rajiv Gandhi example, it's assumed that he caused enmity from his godman, 12.0pt">who in revenge killed him or worked on that, at least- I would say that it was Rajiv who was hurt the most- on mundane level, at least, to kill-be killed is considered the top sign of enmity.They were inimical to each other, based on GC info, but how can one know who would harm first? My guess is: we don't. Am I missing something? 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Thanks, 12.0pt">Anna jyotraff <jyotraff > wrote: margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar > > Read this: http://srath.com/lectures/ghatak.htm and you will know > everything. Thank You very much, teacher. with respect, Rafal ~ om tat sat ~ 10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. 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Guest guest Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 Interesting comment- there is another fine line here, I woud say: Sri Rama is one, but the rest of mortals are not always /most of the time?/ able to distinquish when they are in /real/ need to protect themselves, and would most likely end up hurting others. It seems much 'nobler' to my mind, to suffer if it's meant to be, than to risk.. i.e. Dangerous weapon, even for protecting oneself, only- Regards, Anna Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Anna, Namaskar There is a fine line here. See many of those who learn the sacred rights get initiated into methods to protect themselves. That is; they learn about sacred weapons which can be used to protect them from harm. If you read the story about Sri Rama, he was given all the divine weapons (known as astras) which through mantra’s are used to strike. Another popular story is between Vishvamitra and Vashista. Usually this is not a major part of the sacred rights, and the aim is to avoid the native in undertaking fights with others openly, and instead focussing their attention to God. Now a problem comes when a person profficient in these rites decides to use them for their own career development… then we have a problem. The native in question was very learned in a particular rite of Kamakshi, and was a very strong devotee. Stories go that he could hypnotize a person just by reciting a mantra and snapping his fingers, leaving the person at his beck and call. He was once cited to have used this ability to help a woman avoid herself from making a fool of herself at a public party. But I guess greed got a hold of him, and then he would be on the defensive against anyone who would trouble his finances. So the word – black magician applies to a person who uses their powers for evil. But a person may be well learned in these rites and still not use it for evil. There is a specific way to find out, and this is based on the planets which aspect the karakamsa. i.e. if malefics aspect, they will lure the native into dark practices, whislt if benefics aspect the native will use the knowledge for good purposes. Best wishes, Visti Larsen http://srigaruda.com visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com A.R. [bonamente108 ] 03 December 2004 01:55To: Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] compatibility - ghataka - To Visti Dear Visti, Yes, it does make sense-and it is consistent, on this level. /but from the logical point of view, it doesn't- how could anybody involved, let alone 'proficient' and practicing harming black magic stuff be considered 'without intention to harm' - there is an inherent contradiction here- one would avoid even exposure to BM knowledge, if that was true, I would guess?/ Regards, Anna Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Anna, Rajiv Gandhis arudha Lagna has rahu in the 3rd from it. Malefics in 3rd from arudha lagna show action one performs which can hurt others. The Godman has only Ketu in the 6th from arudha lagna, so he will only be instigated by circumstances to hurt others i.e. he will feel forced to cause pain. This means that Rajiv Gandhi was the one likely to have made the first blow. This is consistent. Best wishes, Visti Larsen http://srigaruda.com visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com A.R. [bonamente108 ] 02 December 2004 00:11To: Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] compatibility - ghataka - To Visti Dear Visti, Good response. 'Almost consistent' is not enough for you - to divulge the findings! Perfectionism or intelectual honesty, or both, LOL! I like both- it's hard to find, really.. BTW is there any absolute consistency in astrology, I am wondering. As for the first part- you are right: it IS irrelevant who started the emnity first, that would be too superficial, indeed- I wasn't clear enough- I believe that it's always, to a various degree of course, two-way street- in relationships- victim-culprit issue, I mean.In close relationships, in particular, you don't know how much 'secondary' gratification the 'crying' part derives from the situation, but must be some, otherwise the relationship wouldn't exist...Have I made my Q-doubt clearer? Thanks, Visti AnnaVisti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Anna, Namaskar There is a way to go about understanding it for Nakshatra Ghdtaka its easy as the Nakshatras will always be in the 5th sign from the specific sign and it will be that Nakshatra which wholly occupies the sign. Incase of Nakshatras in the watery signs, it will be the 2nd last one. I had ascertained a basis which almost worked with the Chandra Rasi, but Id rather keep it to myself for now as its ALMOST consistent. Best wishes, Visti Larsen http://srigaruda.com visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com A.R. [bonamente108 ] 01 December 2004 06:52To: Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] compatibility - ghataka - To Visti PS: I am also wondering where Ghataka phenomenon is extracted from-theoretical base/the source - 2/12 and 6/8 /bad/ relationship combinations apply in some, but not in all cases. And not all naksatras are included, I've noticed. It's hard to find the dominant rule here. perhaps not for you, Visti? "A.R." <bonamente108 > wrote: Dear Visti, I've just read the suggested text on gathaka from Sanjay-In the Rajiv Gandhi example, it's assumed that he caused enmity from his godman, who in revenge killed him or worked on that, at least- I would say that it was Rajiv who was hurt the most- on mundane level, at least, to kill-be killed is considered the top sign of enmity.They were inimical to each other, based on GC info, but how can one know who would harm first? My guess is: we don't. Am I missing something? Thanks, Annajyotraff <jyotraff > wrote: , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote:> ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > Dear Rafal, Namaskar> > Read this: http://srath.com/lectures/ghatak.htm and you will know> everything.Thank You very much, teacher.with respect, New">Rafal~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today The all-new My What will yours do? All your favorites on one personal page Try My ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.http://www.nod32.com ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. 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Guest guest Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Hare Rama Krsna 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Anna, 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Most of the magical weapons are taught with external applications but they all have primary internal application. For example, weapons that are meant to stambha (stop or freeze) a person, like stop their speech in mid sentence, are internally meant to stambha the mind in meditation so dharana (concentration) can be perfected. 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">There are many vaishikarana mantras available in the scriptures. Externally, they are used to make people fall in love with you, to attract them. Sometimes they are used to make people attracted to your business and products. But on a spiritual level, these mantras are used to attract the deity to you, that’s why sattvic people are celibate for 40 days during sadhanas with these mantras, so they don’t end up attracting someone else instead. All these things are to be learned from a competent teacher who guides one to use these techniques for intense spiritual growth. 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">On the level of certain sadhanas, that are just pure black magic, it is important to at least have some familiarity, so when you have a client who has a curse that is killing them, you will understand what is happening and you will then be able to help them find relief. In Ayurveda school, my least favorite subject was female diseases, but if I did not learn all the symptoms, and colors of fungus and consistency of discharges, how would I be able to help a suffering client. If a police officer, doesn’t know how a thief steals a car, how will they know what to look for when policing the streets? Competence in any field requires having the knowledge of the shatru, so you can do your job properly. 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Also, the real weapons can only be learned from a guru. It is the guru’s job to make sure the student is sattvic enough to pass the knowledge on. If the guru is good, then he will only pass on such knowledge to students who will use such weapons for spiritual growth and the upholding of dharma. 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Namah Sivaya 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">A.R. [bonamente108 ] Friday, December 03, 2004 9:02 PM RE: [Om Krishna Guru] compatibility - ghataka - To Visti 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Dear Visti, 12.0pt">Interesting comment- 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">there is another fine line here, I woud say: Sri Rama is one, but the rest of mortals are not always /most of the time?/ able to distinquish when they are in /real/ need to protect themselves, and would most likely end up hurting others. It seems much 'nobler' to my mind, to suffer if it's meant to be, than to risk.. 12.0pt">i.e. Dangerous weapon, even for protecting oneself, only- 12.0pt">Regards, 12.0pt">Anna 12.0pt"> Visti Larsen font-style:italic"> <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: margin-left:2.4pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Anna, Namaskar There is a fine line here. See many of those who learn the sacred rights get initiated into methods to protect themselves. That is; they learn about sacred weapons which can be used to protect them from harm. If you read the story about Sri Rama, he was given all the divine weapons (known as astras) which through mantras are used to strike. Another popular story is between Vishvamitra and Vashista. Usually this is not a major part of the sacred rights, and the aim is to avoid the native in undertaking fights with others openly, and instead focussing their attention to God. Now a problem comes when a person profficient in these rites decides to use them for their own career development then we have a problem. The native in question was very learned in a particular rite of Kamakshi, and was a very strong devotee. Stories go that he could hypnotize a person just by reciting a mantra and snapping his fingers, leaving the person at his beck and call. He was once cited to have used this ability to help a woman avoid herself from making a fool of herself at a public party. But I guess greed got a hold of him, and then he would be on the defensive against anyone who would trouble his finances. So the word black magician applies to a person who uses their powers for evil. But a person may be well learned in these rites and still not use it for evil. There is a specific way to find out, and this is based on the planets which aspect the karakamsa. i.e. if malefics aspect, they will lure the native into dark practices, whislt if benefics aspect the native will use the knowledge for good purposes. Best wishes, mso-table-rspace:2.25pt;mso-table-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-table-anchor-horizontal: column;mso-table-left:left;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 0in"> mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-element-anchor-horizontal: column;mso-height-rule:exactly"> mso-ansi-language:DA;font-weight:bold"> none"> mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-element-anchor-horizontal: column;mso-height-rule:exactly"> DA;font-weight:bold"> mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-element-anchor-horizontal: column;mso-height-rule:exactly"> font-family:Verdana;color:#99CC00;mso-ansi-language:DA;font-weight:bold">Visti Larsen color:#99CC00;mso-ansi-language:DA"> mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-element-anchor-horizontal: column;mso-height-rule:exactly"> DA">http://srigaruda.com mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-element-anchor-horizontal: column;mso-height-rule:exactly"> DA">visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com font-family:Verdana;color:#4E81C4;mso-ansi-language:DA"> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">A.R. [bonamente108 ] 03 December 2004 01:55 RE: [Om Krishna Guru] compatibility - ghataka - To Visti 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Dear Visti, 12.0pt">Yes, it does make sense-and it is consistent, on this level. 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">/but from the logical point of view, it doesn't- how could anybody involved, let alone 'proficient' and practicing harming black magic stuff be considered 'without intention to harm' - there is an inherent contradiction here- one would avoid even exposure to BM knowledge, if that was true, I would guess?/ 12.0pt">Regards, 12.0pt">Anna 12.0pt"> Visti Larsen font-style:italic"> <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Anna, Rajiv Gandhis arudha Lagna has rahu in the 3rd from it. Malefics in 3rd from arudha lagna show action one performs which can hurt others. The Godman has only Ketu in the 6th from arudha lagna, so he will only be instigated by circumstances to hurt others i.e. he will feel forced to cause pain. This means that Rajiv Gandhi was the one likely to have made the first blow. This is consistent. Best wishes, mso-table-rspace:2.25pt;mso-table-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-table-anchor-horizontal: column;mso-table-left:left;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 0in"> mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-element-anchor-horizontal: column;mso-height-rule:exactly"> mso-ansi-language:DA;font-weight:bold"> none"> mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-element-anchor-horizontal: column;mso-height-rule:exactly"> DA;font-weight:bold"> mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-element-anchor-horizontal: column;mso-height-rule:exactly"> font-family:Verdana;color:#99CC00;mso-ansi-language:DA;font-weight:bold">Visti Larsen color:#99CC00;mso-ansi-language:DA"> mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-element-anchor-horizontal: column;mso-height-rule:exactly"> DA">http://srigaruda.com mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-element-anchor-horizontal: column;mso-height-rule:exactly"> DA">visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com font-family:Verdana;color:#4E81C4;mso-ansi-language:DA"> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">A.R. [bonamente108 ] 02 December 2004 00:11 RE: [Om Krishna Guru] compatibility - ghataka - To Visti 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Dear Visti, 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Good response. 'Almost consistent' is not enough for you - to divulge the findings! Perfectionism or intelectual honesty, or both, LOL! I like both- it's hard to find, really.. 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">BTW is there any absolute consistency in astrology, I am wondering. 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">As for the first part- you are right: it IS irrelevant who started the emnity first, that would be too superficial, indeed- I wasn't clear enough- I believe that it's always, to a various degree of course, two-way street- in relationships- victim-culprit issue, I mean.In close relationships, in particular, you don't know how much 'secondary' gratification the 'crying' part derives from the situation, but must be some, otherwise the relationship wouldn't exist...Have I made my Q-doubt clearer? 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Thanks, Visti 12.0pt">Anna Visti Larsen font-style:italic"> <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Anna, Namaskar There is a way to go about understanding it for Nakshatra Ghdtaka its easy as the Nakshatras will always be in the 5th sign from the specific sign and it will be that Nakshatra which wholly occupies the sign. Incase of Nakshatras in the watery signs, it will be the 2nd last one. I had ascertained a basis which almost worked with the Chandra Rasi, but Id rather keep it to myself for now as its ALMOST consistent. Best wishes, mso-table-rspace:2.25pt;mso-table-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-table-anchor-horizontal: column;mso-table-left:left;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 0in"> mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-element-anchor-horizontal: column;mso-height-rule:exactly"> mso-ansi-language:DA;font-weight:bold"> none"> mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-element-anchor-horizontal: column;mso-height-rule:exactly"> DA;font-weight:bold"> mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-element-anchor-horizontal: column;mso-height-rule:exactly"> font-family:Verdana;color:#99CC00;mso-ansi-language:DA;font-weight:bold">Visti Larsen color:#99CC00;mso-ansi-language:DA"> mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-element-anchor-horizontal: column;mso-height-rule:exactly"> DA">http://srigaruda.com mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-element-anchor-horizontal: column;mso-height-rule:exactly"> DA">visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com font-family:Verdana;color:#4E81C4;mso-ansi-language:DA"> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">A.R. [bonamente108 ] 01 December 2004 06:52 Re: [Om Krishna Guru] compatibility - ghataka - To Visti 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">PS: I am also wondering where Ghataka phenomenon is extracted from-theoretical base/the source - 2/12 and 6/8 /bad/ relationship combinations apply in some, but not in all cases. And not all naksatras are included, I've noticed. It's hard to find the dominant rule here. perhaps not for you, Visti? "A.R." <bonamente108 > wrote: 12.0pt">Dear Visti, 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">I've just read the suggested text on gathaka from Sanjay-In the Rajiv Gandhi example, it's assumed that he caused enmity from his godman, 12.0pt">who in revenge killed him or worked on that, at least- I would say that it was Rajiv who was hurt the most- on mundane level, at least, to kill-be killed is considered the top sign of enmity.They were inimical to each other, based on GC info, but how can one know who would harm first? My guess is: we don't. 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