RE: #2 To Visti - About a Vipareet Raja Yoga

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Respected Guruji,

 

Further to the following explanations about VRY, i

would appreciate if you can kindly clarify the

following:

 

1)8th House has 3 planets - Lord of 3rd House (Moon),

sixth house (venus= LL and L6) and 12th house (Mars =

L12 and L7) making it VRY. Does this means malefic

effects of Mars get cancelled?

 

2)It becomes beneficial by fall of close/dear ones? As

all are in 8th house, fall is through friends or

troubles/disease for self??....confused....

 

3)When VRY gives beneficial because of cancellation of

malefic planets, longevity will not get improved?

 

4)Just to note:

a)8th house has rashi and graha drishti on 8th lord

Jupiter who is retrograde and in 2nd house.

b)Jupiter is in Kendra from Moon (gaja kesari)

c)Saturn (YK) -strongly placed in 10th house aspecting

8th house.

 

will saturn's aspect or jupiters aspect (rasi/grha)

make 8th house more beneficial in terms of overcoming

troubles/diseases or learning occult knowledge.

 

5)In case if the above is not clear,the above is my

chart,

 

DOB November 25, 1965

Time: 6:19:00 pm

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 77 E 54' 00", 8 N 45' 00"

 

BD is happened to be today.

 

6)5)For VRY, combination of dusthana lords are to be

in dushthana house or it can be in any house.

 

Thank you in advance for your kind response.

 

Would appreciate guidance

regards

 

Muthu

 

Be blessed by the divine power.

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

 

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Sourav, Namaskar

>

> 1. Actually I don’t like to differentiate between

> bad or worse, thou

> 3rd house is part of the Trishadaya (3rd, 6th, 11th)

> which Päräçara seems to

> despise utterly.

> 2. Yes, either wife or a business partner, as

> indicated by the 7th

> house. Since Mercury is placed in the 6th house, it

> is more likely to be a

> business partner.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> visti

>

> _____

>

> feynman_8 [feynman_8]

> 24 November 2004 21:29

>

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] #2 To Visti - About a

> Vipareet Raja Yoga in

> my chart

>

>

>

>

> Dear Visti,

> yes 3rd and 6th are both dusthanas but

> being upachayas

> are better than 8th and 12th. So what is the VRY

> mean? Through whose

> fall will it fructify? Wife?

>

> - Sourav

>

> , "Visti Larsen"

> <visti@s...>

> wrote:

> > |Hare Rama Krsna|

> >

> > Dear Nitin, Namaskar

> >

> > But Päräçara considers the 3rd house as a Dusthäna

> – shouldn't we

> also?

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > visti@s...

> >

> > _____

> >

> > Nitin [sjvc@j...]

> > 24 November 2004 20:55

> >

> > [Om Krishna Guru] #2 To Visti - About a

> Vipareet Raja

> Yoga in my

> > chart

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ||| Hare Rama Krishna |||

> >

> > Dear Sourav,

> >

> > Although addressed to Visti, allow me to share

> some of my

> understanding….

> >

> > Per definition, the Vipreet Raj Yoga (VRY) is if

> the lords of the

> Dushthanas

> > (at least 2) are in Dushthanas themselves. Its as

> if 2 negatives

> create a

> > positive.

> >

> > The Dushthanas are those of Houses 6, 8 and 12.

> >

> > Houses 3, 6, 10 and 11 are those of Upachayas.

> > (Some consider the 3rd as a Dushthana, and I am

> not doing so.)

> >

> > The 7th is neither a Dushthana nor an Upachaya.

> >

> > Based on the scenario you described I am not

> seeing a VRY. Can you

> please

> > post the link where you got this from, so I can

> get a better

> understanding

> > of the lessons?

> >

> > Thank you.

> >

> > Best wishes and warm regards,

> > Nitin.

> >

> > || Namah Shivaaya ||

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Visti,

> > I was reading in the Varahamihira

> Blog of Satrajit.

> > There was a posting on Vipareet Raja Yoga in which

> if lords of

> > 3,6,8,12 join together then they cancel each

> other's malefic

> > significance and hence is beneficial for the

> native. But this good

> > effect comes through a fall. If it is a satru-rasi

> then fall of

> > enemy; if it is a mitra rasi ( benific rasi) then

> fall of someone

> > close or dear.

> >

> > In my case, I have Su (lord of 3rd) and Ve (lord

> of 12-th) joining

> > in the 7-th (sagittarius). This by definition is a

> VRY. What fall

> > does it signify?

> >

> > Thanks for clarification in advance,

> >

> > - Sourav

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ~ om tat sat ~

> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the

> Achyuta Ashram.

> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare

> Rama Krishna'

> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the

> Great who said

> that the

> > human stomach should not become a graveyard for

> animals.

> > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one

> free chart

> reading today

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Muthu,

Notice how the usually helpful Visti chose silence?

Not that your Qs are tough, they're ab-so-lute-ly dizzying. You must explain

yourself more clearly than this. I mean, just read your Qs 2 and 3!

And you even got your birthday wrong... today isn't Nov 25th anywhere on

earth.

Cheers,

Ramapriya

 

-

"Muthu S" <s_muthu

<>

Monday, November 29, 2004 6:08 PM

RE: [Om Krishna Guru] #2 To Visti - About a Vipareet Raja Yoga

 

 

>

> Respected Guruji,

>

> Further to the following explanations about VRY, i

> would appreciate if you can kindly clarify the

> following:

>

> 1)8th House has 3 planets - Lord of 3rd House (Moon),

> sixth house (venus= LL and L6) and 12th house (Mars =

> L12 and L7) making it VRY. Does this means malefic

> effects of Mars get cancelled?

>

> 2)It becomes beneficial by fall of close/dear ones? As

> all are in 8th house, fall is through friends or

> troubles/disease for self??....confused....

>

> 3)When VRY gives beneficial because of cancellation of

> malefic planets, longevity will not get improved?

>

> 4)Just to note:

> a)8th house has rashi and graha drishti on 8th lord

> Jupiter who is retrograde and in 2nd house.

> b)Jupiter is in Kendra from Moon (gaja kesari)

> c)Saturn (YK) -strongly placed in 10th house aspecting

> 8th house.

>

> will saturn's aspect or jupiters aspect (rasi/grha)

> make 8th house more beneficial in terms of overcoming

> troubles/diseases or learning occult knowledge.

>

> 5)In case if the above is not clear,the above is my

> chart,

>

> DOB November 25, 1965

> Time: 6:19:00 pm

> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> Place: 77 E 54' 00", 8 N 45' 00"

>

> BD is happened to be today.

>

> 6)5)For VRY, combination of dusthana lords are to be

> in dushthana house or it can be in any house.

>

> Thank you in advance for your kind response.

>

> Would appreciate guidance

> regards

>

> Muthu

>

> Be blessed by the divine power.

[Guest guest]

Hare rama krishna.

 

Respected Gurus,

 

I agree fully that questions were not at all clear.

Realized that things done in a hurry never could be

correct. Apologise for the inconvenieces and thanks to

Shri Ramapriya for pointing it and appreciate the

same. Let me rewrite the questions as below:

 

Eighth House has 3 planets - Lord of 3rd House (Moon),

sixth house (venus= LL and L6) and 12th house (Mars =

L12 and L7) making it VRY.

 

1)8th house matters like disease, troubles so far were

not remarkably bad (Venus and Moon dasas were over).

 

a)Does this mean fall/raise is expected in coming Mars

dasa (2005 to 2012)?

b)Loss is through enemies as 8th house is saggitarius

(odd-malefic), is this correct?

 

2)Normally when 3 planets joins, most malefic and

benefics exchange significations. i.e. venus with

mars. In this case, because of VRY, lagna lord venus

gets malefic charecterestics of Mars, making LL weak

further?? what will be the effcts? LL Venus is AK as

well.

 

3)At the same time, learning in occult knowledge

started a year back due to Laga lord in 8th house.

However, as this is aspected by 8th lord which is

Jupiter (retrograde) in 2nd house (strong desire in

learning is 100%), will this learning go smoothly or

beneficially ??

 

4)Jupiter is in Kendra from Moon (gaja kesari).But

Jupiter is in retrograde, will it affect the result of

the Gaja kesari yoga?

 

5)Longeivity is taken away as LL in 8th. I understand

Moon is the maraka planet for 8th house and it is in

8th house. Does the both further affects logevity?

 

6)Saturn (YK) -strongly placed in 10th house aspecting

8th house, LL, Moon, Mars and jupiter. As more planets

are focussing their energy to 8th house, will it help

for logevity and fame?

 

I apologise again for the earlier confusing queries,

and sincerely hope the above queries make sense. If

not, another apologise as i have just started learning

this divine science.

 

DOB November 25, 1965

Time: 6:19:00 pm

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 77 E 54' 00", 8 N 45' 00"

 

Thank you in advance for your kind attention and would

appreciate expert opinions from gurus.

 

Best regards

 

Muthu

be blessed by the divine.

 

 

 

 

--- Ramapriya D <hubli wrote:

 

> Muthu,

> Notice how the usually helpful Visti chose silence?

> Not that your Qs are tough, they're ab-so-lute-ly

> dizzying. You must explain

> yourself more clearly than this. I mean, just read

> your Qs 2 and 3!

> And you even got your birthday wrong... today isn't

> Nov 25th anywhere on

> earth.

> Cheers,

> Ramapriya

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Muthu, Namaskar

Comments below.

Best wishes,

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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">Muthu S

[s_muthu ]

30 November 2004 07:15

 

Re: [Om Krishna

Guru] #2 To Visti - About a Vipareet Raja Yoga

12.0pt">

10.0pt">Hare rama krishna.

Respected Gurus,

I agree fully that questions were not at all

clear.

Realized that things done in a hurry never could

be

correct. Apologise for the inconvenieces and

thanks to

Shri Ramapriya for pointing it and appreciate the

same. Let me rewrite the questions as below:

Eighth House has 3 planets - Lord of 3rd House

(Moon),

sixth house (venus= LL and L6) and 12th house

(Mars =

L12 and L7) making it VRY.

1)8th house matters like disease, troubles so far

were

not remarkably bad (Venus and Moon dasas were

over).

[Visti] Use Shoola Dasa

for disease – please be careful about your blood pressure since 2001.

font-family:"Courier New"">

a)Does this mean fall/raise is expected in coming

Mars

dasa (2005 to 2012)?

[Visti] Venus will not

act as 6th lord, since it is Lagna lord – instead the 11th

lord (6th from 6th) will act on behalf of 6th lord

and this is Jupiter. So if a fall is to happen it will happen to you. Now use

Chaturshiti Sama Dasa since your 10th lord is in 10th house.

So we’ve

ascertained that there is both a VRY caused by Mars and Moon, but also a fall

of your own caused by Venus. To see when this will happen, we have to be

careful as 3 planets are joined and will the effects of each other. The most

malefic is Mars and the most benefic is Venus, so Venus and Mars will exchange

indications – so Venus Dasa should be giving VRY and Mars should be

giving bad name, etc.

But the VRY is not

very strong as the planets causing it are not debilitated or anything, so I wouldn’t

expect much of your VRY, and you should watch out for your blood pressure.

font-family:"Courier New"">

b)Loss is through enemies as 8th house is

saggitarius

(odd-malefic), is this correct?

[Visti] theres no

influence of 6th lord here.

font-family:"Courier New"">

2)Normally when 3 planets joins, most malefic and

benefics exchange significations. i.e. venus with

mars. In this case, because of VRY, lagna lord

venus

gets malefic charecterestics of Mars, making LL

weak

further?? what will be the effcts? LL Venus is AK

as

well.

3)At the same time, learning in occult knowledge

started a year back due to Laga lord in 8th house.

However, as this is aspected by 8th lord which is

Jupiter (retrograde) in 2nd house (strong desire

in

learning is 100%), will this learning go smoothly

or

beneficially ??

[Visti] yes lagna lord

in 8th has the good fortune of giving Siddhya-Vidya-Visharada.

font-family:"Courier New"">

4)Jupiter is in Kendra from Moon (gaja kesari).But

Jupiter is in retrograde, will it affect the

result of

the Gaja kesari yoga?

[Visti] Gaja Kesari

Yoga gives a lot of MEDHA, which is focus and intelligence. This will be on the

Bhäva placement of Jupiter, which is 2nd house, so a lot of

focus and attention to money and wealth will come as a result. Similarly in Adolph

Hitlers case Gajakesari in 3rd gave a lot of Medha in matters of fighting

and war.

font-family:"Courier New"">

5)Longeivity is taken away as LL in 8th. I

understand

Moon is the maraka planet for 8th house and it is

in

8th house. Does the both further affects logevity?

[Visti] http://srath.com/lectures/longevity.htm

font-family:"Courier New"">

6)Saturn (YK) -strongly placed in 10th house

aspecting

8th house, LL, Moon, Mars and jupiter. As more

planets

are focussing their energy to 8th house, will it

help

for logevity and fame?

[Visti] Lagna lord in

8th can give fame through occult knowledge – keep up your

Jyotish study.

font-family:"Courier New"">

I apologise again for the earlier confusing

queries,

and sincerely hope the above queries make sense.

If

not, another apologise as i have just started

learning

this divine science.

DOB November 25, 1965

Time:

6:19:00 pm

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East

of GMT)

Place:

77 E 54' 00", 8 N 45' 00"

Thank you in advance for your kind attention and

would

appreciate expert opinions from gurus.

Best regards

Muthu

be blessed by the divine.

--- Ramapriya D <hubli (AT) hotpop (DOT) com> wrote:

> Muthu,

> Notice how the usually helpful Visti chose

silence?

> Not that your Qs are tough, they're

ab-so-lute-ly

> dizzying. You must explain

> yourself more clearly than this. I mean, just

read

> your Qs 2 and 3!

> And you even got your birthday wrong... today

isn't

> Nov 25th anywhere on

> earth.

> Cheers,

> Ramapriya

>

 

 

The all-new My - What will yours do?

 

~ om tat sat

~

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Rama Krishna'

(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the

Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for

animals.

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Hare Rama Krishna

 

Respected Guru Vistiji,

 

Many many thanks for your expert clarifications on my

queries. I will come back again

with regards

Muthu

be blessed by the divine.

 

 

 

--- Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

 

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Muthu, Namaskar

>

> Comments below.

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

> <http://srigaruda.com/>

>

>

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> http://srigaruda.com

>

> <visti visti

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> Muthu S [s_muthu]

> 30 November 2004 07:15

>

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] #2 To Visti - About a

> Vipareet Raja Yoga

>

>

>

> Hare rama krishna.

>

> Respected Gurus,

>

> I agree fully that questions were not at all clear.

> Realized that things done in a hurry never could be

> correct. Apologise for the inconvenieces and thanks

> to

> Shri Ramapriya for pointing it and appreciate the

> same. Let me rewrite the questions as below:

>

> Eighth House has 3 planets - Lord of 3rd House

> (Moon),

> sixth house (venus= LL and L6) and 12th house (Mars

> =

> L12 and L7) making it VRY.

>

> 1)8th house matters like disease, troubles so far

> were

> not remarkably bad (Venus and Moon dasas were over).

>

>

>

>

> [Visti] Use Shoola Dasa for disease – please be

> careful about your blood

> pressure since 2001.

>

>

> a)Does this mean fall/raise is expected in coming

> Mars

> dasa (2005 to 2012)?

>

> [Visti] Venus will not act as 6th lord, since it is

> Lagna lord – instead the

> 11th lord (6th from 6th) will act on behalf of 6th

> lord and this is Jupiter.

> So if a fall is to happen it will happen to you. Now

> use Chaturshiti Sama

> Dasa since your 10th lord is in 10th house.

>

> So we’ve ascertained that there is both a VRY caused

> by Mars and Moon, but

> also a fall of your own caused by Venus. To see when

> this will happen, we

> have to be careful as 3 planets are joined and will

> the effects of each

> other. The most malefic is Mars and the most benefic

> is Venus, so Venus and

> Mars will exchange indications – so Venus Dasa

> should be giving VRY and Mars

> should be giving bad name, etc.

>

> But the VRY is not very strong as the planets

> causing it are not debilitated

> or anything, so I wouldn’t expect much of your VRY,

> and you should watch out

> for your blood pressure.

>

>

> b)Loss is through enemies as 8th house is

> saggitarius

> (odd-malefic), is this correct?

>

>

>

> [Visti] theres no influence of 6th lord here.

>

>

> 2)Normally when 3 planets joins, most malefic and

> benefics exchange significations. i.e. venus with

> mars. In this case, because of VRY, lagna lord venus

> gets malefic charecterestics of Mars, making LL weak

> further?? what will be the effcts? LL Venus is AK as

> well.

>

> 3)At the same time, learning in occult knowledge

> started a year back due to Laga lord in 8th house.

> However, as this is aspected by 8th lord which is

> Jupiter (retrograde) in 2nd house (strong desire in

> learning is 100%), will this learning go smoothly or

> beneficially ??

>

>

>

> [Visti] yes lagna lord in 8th has the good fortune

> of giving

> Siddhya-Vidya-Visharada.

>

>

> 4)Jupiter is in Kendra from Moon (gaja kesari).But

> Jupiter is in retrograde, will it affect the result

> of

> the Gaja kesari yoga?

>

>

>

> [Visti] Gaja Kesari Yoga gives a lot of MEDHA, which

> is focus and

> intelligence. This will be on the Bhäva placement of

> Jupiter, which is 2nd

> house, so a lot of focus and attention to money and

> wealth will come as a

> result. Similarly in Adolph Hitlers case Gajakesari

> in 3rd gave a lot of

> Medha in matters of fighting and war.

>

>

> 5)Longeivity is taken away as LL in 8th. I

> understand

> Moon is the maraka planet for 8th house and it is in

> 8th house. Does the both further affects logevity?

>

>

>

> [Visti] http://srath.com/lectures/longevity.htm

>

>

> 6)Saturn (YK) -strongly placed in 10th house

> aspecting

> 8th house, LL, Moon, Mars and jupiter. As more

> planets

> are focussing their energy to 8th house, will it

> help

> for logevity and fame?

>

>

>

> [Visti] Lagna lord in 8th can give fame through

> occult knowledge – keep up

> your Jyotish study.

>

>

> I apologise again for the earlier confusing queries,

> and sincerely hope the above queries make sense. If

> not, another apologise as i have just started

> learning

> this divine science.

>

> DOB November 25, 1965

> Time: 6:19:00 pm

> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> Place: 77 E 54' 00", 8 N 45' 00"

>

> Thank you in advance for your kind attention and

> would

> appreciate expert opinions from gurus.

>

> Best regards

>

> Muthu

> be blessed by the divine.

>

>

>

>

> --- Ramapriya D <hubli wrote:

>

> > Muthu,

> > Notice how the usually helpful Visti chose

> silence?

> > Not that your Qs are tough, they're ab-so-lute-ly

> > dizzying. You must explain

> > yourself more clearly than this. I mean, just read

> > your Qs 2 and 3!

> > And you even got your birthday wrong... today

> isn't

> > Nov 25th anywhere on

> > earth.

> > Cheers,

> > Ramapriya

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> The all-new My - What will yours do?

>

>

>

> ~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta

> Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare

> Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the

> Great who said that the

> human stomach should not become a graveyard for

> animals.

> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one

> free chart reading today

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