RE: [SJC: Achyuta Gurukul] #2 Career - To Guru Visti Ji

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Respected Gurudeva,

 

Namaskar

 

Does the effect retro + debiliated = exalted holds

true in divisional charts also, say in d-9, d-10 etc.

 

Regards,

 

Neeraj Gupta

--- Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

 

> |Hare Rama Krsna|

>

> Dear Raj, Namaskar

>

> In Navämça? So that would mean that when you are

> with your spouse you get

> Neecha Bhanga?

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> visti

>

> _____

>

> Raj Gupta [rajgupta1971]

> 23 November 2004 14:45

>

> RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] #2 Career

>

>

>

> Dear Vistjii and Rameshji,

>

>

>

> Thanks for the comments. This was really a good

> learning session.

>

> The two new thing that I learned is that a

> debilitated planet behaves

> differently if in retro

>

> (even may give good results later if placed in the

> opposite signs of

> exaltation).

>

> Also regarding Rameshji's earlier comment:

>

> Sun (exaltation lord of Aries) is placed in a

> quadrant from Shani who is

> placed in Aries sign, will that cancel debilitation?

>

>

>

> Regards,

>

> Raj

>

> Ramesh Gangaramani <ramesh.gangaramani

> wrote:

>

> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

>

>

>

> Dear Visti, Namasakar

>

> Thank you for explaining it so well.

>

> Kind regards

>

> Ramesh

>

>

> Visti Larsen [visti]

> Tuesday, November 23, 2004 3:30 PM

>

> RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] #2 Career

>

> |Hare Rama Krsna|

>

> Dear Ramesh, Namaskar

>

> For beginners that statement is ok but for someone

> of your knowledge we

> need to be more concise. Infact when a planet is

> retrograde it has stopped

> following the ways of the Sun so also it will not

> follow the Sun-signs

> anymore (it has become like Rdhu retro). So

> naturally whatever indications

> are indicated by the sign it is placed in it will

> deny and try to give the

> reverse. The reason it is causing this denial is a

> lesson from God we

> desired something so badly in past lives that God

> wants to teach us that

> desires will be our undoing so it keeps denying

> until we relinquish this

> desire Then maybe the desire gets fulfilled after

> that. Problem is that this

> desire is sooo strong that the person doesnt give

> up without a fight.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> visti

>

>

> _____

>

>

> Ramesh Gangaramani

> [ramesh.gangaramani]

> 23 November 2004 11:41

>

> RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] #2 Career

>

>

>

> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

>

>

>

> Dear Raj,

>

> Let me add an important point here. A retrograde

> debilitated planet is often

> taken as exalted. Retro planet is taken to give

> results similar to its

> placement in opposite sign. Libra's opposite sign is

> Aries and where Saturn

> gets exalted. So things are not so bad after all!

> Some believe that

> exaltation in such cases is achieved after some

> time!

>

> Regards

>

> Ramesh

>

>

> Ramesh Gangaramani

> [ramesh.gangaramani]

> Tuesday, November 23, 2004 12:18 PM

>

> RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] #2 Career

>

> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

>

>

>

> Dear Raj,

>

> I am reproducing a mail from Sanjayji on the subject

> of neechabhanga.

>

>

>

> "||Om brihaspataye namah||

>

> Dear Ajit

>

> Neechabhanga occurs due to the following:

>

> 1. Kendra: The kendra are the Vishnu sthana and the

> planet owning the sign

> of debility or the sign of exaltation of the

> debilitated planet should be in

> Kendra to Lagna or the Moon.

>

> 2. The debilitated planet should be conjoined an

> exalted planet. This cannot

> happen for the Moon & its nodes Rahu/Ketu but can

> happen for the remaining

> six planets in three groups of two each. The three

> groups are Sun & Saturn

> indicating poverty to riches or vice versa; Mars &

> Jupiter indicating war to

> peace or vice versa and Mercury & Venus indicating

> abstinance to enjoyment

> or vice versa.

>

> 3. The debilitated planet is placed in exalted

> navamsa. This cannot happen

> for the Moon, but can happen for the remaining eight

> planets. It indicates

> the sudden change in fortune.

>

>

>

> Neechabhanga cannot occur by any other means. It is

> also not like exaltation

> and instead there will be debility first and then

> there will sudden change

> in fortune i.e. period of bad luck/misfortune

> followed by good fortune.

>

>

>

> With best wishes & regards,

>

> I remain

>

> Sanjay Rath"

>

>

>

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|| Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Neera, Namaskar

Yes.

Best wishes,

 

Visti Larsen

visti

 

 

 

 

Neeraj Gupta [gupta_neeraj_2000]

29 November 2004 11:25

 

[Om Krishna Guru] RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] #2 Career - To Guru

Visti Ji

 

 

~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

 

Respected Gurudeva,

 

Namaskar

 

Does the effect retro + debiliated = exalted holds

true in divisional charts also, say in d-9, d-10 etc.

 

Regards,

 

Neeraj Gupta

--- Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

 

> |Hare Rama Krsna|

>

> Dear Raj, Namaskar

>

> In Navdmga? So that would mean that when you are

> with your spouse you get

> Neecha Bhanga?

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> visti

>

> _____

>

> Raj Gupta [rajgupta1971]

> 23 November 2004 14:45

>

> RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] #2 Career

>

>

>

> Dear Vistjii and Rameshji,

>

>

>

> Thanks for the comments. This was really a good

> learning session.

>

> The two new thing that I learned is that a

> debilitated planet behaves

> differently if in retro

>

> (even may give good results later if placed in the

> opposite signs of

> exaltation).

>

> Also regarding Rameshji's earlier comment:

>

> Sun (exaltation lord of Aries) is placed in a

> quadrant from Shani who is

> placed in Aries sign, will that cancel debilitation?

>

>

>

> Regards,

>

> Raj

>

> Ramesh Gangaramani <ramesh.gangaramani

> wrote:

>

> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

>

>

>

> Dear Visti, Namasakar

>

> Thank you for explaining it so well.

>

> Kind regards

>

> Ramesh

>

>

> Visti Larsen [visti]

> Tuesday, November 23, 2004 3:30 PM

>

> RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] #2 Career

>

> |Hare Rama Krsna|

>

> Dear Ramesh, Namaskar

>

> For beginners that statement is ok but for someone

> of your knowledge we

> need to be more concise. Infact when a planet is

> retrograde it has stopped

> following the ways of the Sun so also it will not

> follow the Sun-signs

> anymore (it has become like Rdhu retro). So

> naturally whatever indications

> are indicated by the sign it is placed in it will

> deny and try to give the

> reverse. The reason it is causing this denial is a

> lesson from God we

> desired something so badly in past lives that God

> wants to teach us that

> desires will be our undoing so it keeps denying

> until we relinquish this

> desire Then maybe the desire gets fulfilled after

> that. Problem is that this

> desire is sooo strong that the person doesnt give

> up without a fight.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> visti

>

>

> _____

>

>

> Ramesh Gangaramani

> [ramesh.gangaramani]

> 23 November 2004 11:41

>

> RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] #2 Career

>

>

>

> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

>

>

>

> Dear Raj,

>

> Let me add an important point here. A retrograde

> debilitated planet is often

> taken as exalted. Retro planet is taken to give

> results similar to its

> placement in opposite sign. Libra's opposite sign is

> Aries and where Saturn

> gets exalted. So things are not so bad after all!

> Some believe that

> exaltation in such cases is achieved after some

> time!

>

> Regards

>

> Ramesh

>

>

> Ramesh Gangaramani

> [ramesh.gangaramani]

> Tuesday, November 23, 2004 12:18 PM

>

> RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] #2 Career

>

> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

>

>

>

> Dear Raj,

>

> I am reproducing a mail from Sanjayji on the subject

> of neechabhanga.

>

>

>

> "||Om brihaspataye namah||

>

> Dear Ajit

>

> Neechabhanga occurs due to the following:

>

> 1. Kendra: The kendra are the Vishnu sthana and the

> planet owning the sign

> of debility or the sign of exaltation of the

> debilitated planet should be in

> Kendra to Lagna or the Moon.

>

> 2. The debilitated planet should be conjoined an

> exalted planet. This cannot

> happen for the Moon & its nodes Rahu/Ketu but can

> happen for the remaining

> six planets in three groups of two each. The three

> groups are Sun & Saturn

> indicating poverty to riches or vice versa; Mars &

> Jupiter indicating war to

> peace or vice versa and Mercury & Venus indicating

> abstinance to enjoyment

> or vice versa.

>

> 3. The debilitated planet is placed in exalted

> navamsa. This cannot happen

> for the Moon, but can happen for the remaining eight

> planets. It indicates

> the sudden change in fortune.

>

>

>

> Neechabhanga cannot occur by any other means. It is

> also not like exaltation

> and instead there will be debility first and then

> there will sudden change

> in fortune i.e. period of bad luck/misfortune

> followed by good fortune.

>

>

>

> With best wishes & regards,

>

> I remain

>

> Sanjay Rath"

>

>

>

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