Guest guest Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 Ajay 28th March 1968 New Delhi 11.00 PM Pranaam Gurudev, Thanks for your kind blessings. To continue further on choosing deity. The Kula deveta or family deity is seen from 2nd house of the D-20, in my case its Virgo, sign of mercury which indicate lord vishnu. As per my knowledge my grand parents were worshipers of Shiva and Kalaka devi. My grand father was also use to worship Lord Hanuman. But mainly Shiva and Kalka devi. In Navratras we she use to do puja on Navami. 3rd house in D-20 has Saturn in sign of venus. Question 1. Do you see that third house is more closer to the Kula deveta? 2. Does it indicate the inaccuracy to time by 5 to 10 minutes (which is possible because I was born at home) because if I change my time to 11.07 this house comes to 2nd in D-20? But than it changes my D-9 also by one house. What do you suggest, Kula devta (D-20)is good enough indicator to judge the accuracy of horoscope. Pranaam Ajay , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > Dear Ajay, Namaskar > > 5, 17 or 29 aksharas… 5+multiples of 12. > > Best wishes, > > Visti Larsen > > visti@s... > > _____ > > ajayzharotia [ajayzharotia] > 23 November 2004 06:36 > > Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Ista Devta-Recalculated-To Nitin ji and > Visti ji > > > > > Pranaam guruDev, > > Yes you are right. I have streched it too much. I got carried away > Thanks for clearing my doubts on this. > > Gurudev, there are many mantras for Mother Kali. As per one of the > article by Param Gurudev Sanjay Rath ji, one should choose mantra > for 'Kali Upasana' according to the natal position of Saturn. Which > is fifth house in my case. > > Please put some light on this aspect. > > How many word and aksharas mantra I should use. > > > Pranaam > > > Ajay , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> > wrote: > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > > Dear Ajay, Namaskar > > > > Your reasoning isn't too good. I have clarified below. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > visti@s... > > > > _____ > > > > ajayzharotia [ajayzharotia] > > 22 November 2004 16:38 > > > > [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Ista Devta-Recalculated-To Nitin ji > and > > Visti ji > > > > > > > > > > Pranaam Gurudev > > > > Ajay: 28th March 1968 New Delhi, 11.00 PM > > > > Keeping in mind what you indicated in your previous mail. I have > the > > following understanding. Please correct wherever I am wrong. Sorry > > for being to elaborate. Please have patience and bear with me as > you > > know it is important aspect to understand in ones life. > > > > First lets consider D-9 > > > > 1. In D-9, I have Piscean in 12th from Atmakarak. Since this house > is > > empty the lord of the sign indicate the Ista deveta. In this case > > Jupiter. > > > > [Visti] This is correct. > > > > 2. Jupiter indicate lord Vishnu in his supreme manifestation i.e. > > Para Brahma, like Shri Satya Narayan Vishnu. > > > > [Visti] Guru basically. > > > > 3. Here in D-9, Ista deveta co-join Atmk Venus. > > > > 4. If you notice my Palan deveta that is suppose to be 6th from > > Amatya karak Mercury is sign of Virgo again empty indicates Mercury > > as Palan Devta. Mercury in Dual sign in D-9 indicate Vishnu Avatar > > according to Hari hara's opinion. > > > > > > > > [Visti] No – do not apply Harihara's rules to Ishta, Dharma, Palana > or Guru > > Devata's. For this use the deities Jaimini has used. > > > > > > 5. Since all the deity (Ista and Palan Deveta) are in the sign of > > Aries which is a fiery sign ruled by Mars then it means Palan > deveta > > could be Narsimha Avatar > > > > [Visti] That's stretching it somewhat – Guru+Mercury is the > Parampara Yoga – > > so a form which upholds the Parampara, which Vishnu does. > > > > 6. Hence, Ista deveta: Parma Brahma or supreme soul like Satya > > Narayan and Palan deveta is Narsimha Avatar. > > > > > > > > [Visti] Since Ishta and Palana are joined – why not worship them as > one – > > that way you only need to worship one and everything else in life > is taken > > care of? Jup+Merc is like Sri Vamana Avatara – learn the Dharma > Gayatri; > > Trini pada vi-chakrame, vishnurgopah… Rg Veda: 1.22.18 > > > > > > Questions: > > > > 7. Please correct the above. > > 8. Second, point is, in this case Palan deveta also co-joins Ista > > deveta and Atmakarak Venus in karakmasa. So here we have a > situation > > where Atmakarak co-joins Ista deveta and Palan deveta in the same > > house. What does it signify? > > 9. All the planets are in quadrants in D-9 and in D-1 also aspect > by > > Grah dirshti. What does it signify? > > [Visti] Guess. > > > > > > Now ff you see D-20 > > > > 1. Mars and Moon are in trine in d-20 indicate inclination towards > > divine mother especially of the aggressive (Mars influence) one. > > > > > > > > [Visti] It is your Guru who seems to like the mother – see the 5th > lord > > Jupiter joined Mercury – this is also your Ishta devata. > > > > > > 2. Mars in D-20 lagan in sign of Leo (fiery) is strong indication > of > > Mars propelling or influencing the desire to know the supreme. > > > > [Visti] right. > > > > 3. This is further strengthen in D-9 where Mars aspect (Rashi > > dirishti) Virgo (6th from Amatya Karak Mercury), Sagittarius which > is > > Mantra Pada, and Piscean which is 12th from Atama Karak. > > > > 4. Moon Aspect, Ista devta lord (Ju), Palan Deveta lord (Me) and > > Ataman karak by being in Lagna in D-9. and is in the sign of Ataman > > Karak (Libra). > > > > 5. More Over, in D-20 Moon is Aries sign rules by Mars which is > > Mantra Pada in the also D-20. > > > > 6. So What I gather from here is worshiping Divine Mother in fiery > > form could lead or propel the spiritual path. Like Goddess Mother > > Kali. > > > > [Visti] Gatistvam Gatistvam Tvam Eka Bhavani – this applies to > everyone. > > > > > > > > 7. Also in D-20 Mercury (Palan deveta) and Jupiter (Ista deveta) is > > in Aquarian 12th from Ataman Karak. As my knowledge goes Jupiter in > > Aquarian gives immense philosophical bend. This the sign of Saturn > > which is my Guru Deveta by being BK. And Saturn aspecting this > house > > (Aquarian) by Rashi Diristi. > > > > [Visti] Your stretching. > > > > > > > > Questions > > > > 1. Please correct and add to my understanding where ever I am > wrong. > > Please clear my understanding. > > > > 2. As my deity (Ista & Palan deveta) does not exist in actual form > by > > being all the houses (12th from AK and 6th from AmK in D-9) > > unoccupied by any planet, and Mars and Moon giving strong > influence, > > is the Path for me is Worshipping Goddess Kali. > > > > > > > > [Visti] Sri Vamana Avatara does exist – worship him, and continue > your > > worship of Mother Kali. Your faith is so strong, you made up a > reason from > > your chart to worship her. Btw. The Kali Beeja = Kreem, is also the > beeja of > > Mars. The reason you like Kali is because the 5th house in Räçi has > Moon, > > Saturn (BK), Sun and Rähu. 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