RE: [SJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Ista Devta-Recalculated-To Nitin ji and Visti ji

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10.0pt;font-family:palati;color:blue">Dear Ajay, Namaskar

10.0pt;font-family:palati;color:blue">Your reasoning isn’t too good. I

have clarified below.

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Ista Devta-Recalculated-To Nitin ji and Visti ji

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Pranaam Gurudev

Ajay: 28th March 1968 New Delhi, 11.00 PM

Keeping in mind what you indicated in your

previous mail. I have the

following understanding. Please correct wherever I

am wrong. Sorry

for being to elaborate. Please have patience and

bear with me as you

know it is important aspect to understand in ones

life.

First lets consider D-9

1. In D-9, I have Piscean in 12th from Atmakarak.

Since this house is

empty the lord of the sign indicate the Ista

deveta. In this case

Jupiter.

italic">[Visti] This is correct.

2. Jupiter indicate lord Vishnu in his supreme

manifestation i.e.

Para Brahma, like Shri Satya Narayan Vishnu.

italic">[Visti] Guru basically.

3. Here in D-9, Ista deveta co-join Atmk Venus.

4. If you notice my Palan deveta that is suppose

to be 6th from

Amatya karak Mercury is sign of Virgo again empty

indicates Mercury

as Palan Devta. Mercury in Dual sign in D-9

indicate Vishnu Avatar

according to Hari hara's opinion.

italic">[Visti] No – do not apply Harihara’s rules to Ishta, Dharma,

Palana or Guru Devata’s. For this use the deities Jaimini has used.

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5. Since all the deity (Ista and Palan Deveta) are

in the sign of

Aries which is a fiery sign ruled by Mars then it

means Palan deveta

could be Narsimha Avatar

italic">[Visti] That’s stretching it somewhat – Guru+Mercury is the

Parampara Yoga – so a form which upholds the Parampara, which Vishnu

does.

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6. Hence, Ista deveta: Parma Brahma or supreme

soul like Satya

Narayan and Palan deveta is Narsimha Avatar.

italic">[Visti] Since Ishta and Palana are joined – why not worship them

as one – that way you only need to worship one and everything else in

life is taken care of? Jup+Merc is like Sri Vamana Avatara – learn the

Dharma Gayatri; Trini pada vi-chakrame, vishnurgopah… Rg Veda:

1.22.18

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Questions:

7. Please correct the above.

8. Second, point is, in this case Palan deveta

also co-joins Ista

deveta and Atmakarak Venus in karakmasa. So here

we have a situation

where Atmakarak co-joins Ista deveta and Palan

deveta in the same

house. What does it signify?

9. All the planets are in quadrants in D-9 and in

D-1 also aspect by

Grah dirshti. What does it signify?

italic">[Visti] Guess.

Now ff you see D-20

1. Mars and Moon are in trine in d-20 indicate

inclination towards

divine mother especially of the aggressive (Mars

influence) one.

italic">[Visti] It is your Guru who seems to like the mother – see the 5th

lord Jupiter joined Mercury – this is also your Ishta devata.

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2. Mars in D-20 lagan in sign of Leo (fiery) is

strong indication of

Mars propelling or influencing the desire to know

the supreme.

italic">[Visti] right.

3. This is further strengthen in D-9 where Mars

aspect (Rashi

dirishti) Virgo (6th from Amatya Karak Mercury),

Sagittarius which is

Mantra Pada, and Piscean which is 12th from Atama

Karak.

4. Moon Aspect, Ista devta lord (Ju), Palan Deveta

lord (Me) and

Ataman karak by being in Lagna in D-9. and is in

the sign of Ataman

Karak (Libra).

5. More Over, in D-20 Moon is Aries sign rules by

Mars which is

Mantra Pada in the also D-20.

6. So What I gather from here is worshiping Divine

Mother in fiery

form could lead or propel the spiritual path. Like

Goddess Mother

Kali.

italic">[Visti] Gatistvam Gatistvam Tvam Eka Bhavani – this applies to

everyone.

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7. Also in D-20 Mercury (Palan deveta) and Jupiter

(Ista deveta) is

in Aquarian 12th from Ataman Karak. As my

knowledge goes Jupiter in

Aquarian gives immense philosophical bend. This

the sign of Saturn

which is my Guru Deveta by being BK. And Saturn

aspecting this house

(Aquarian) by Rashi Diristi.

italic">[Visti] Your stretching.

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Questions

1. Please correct and add to my understanding

where ever I am wrong.

Please clear my understanding.

2. As my deity (Ista & Palan deveta) does not

exist in actual form by

being all the houses (12th from AK and 6th from

AmK in D-9)

unoccupied by any planet, and Mars and Moon giving

strong influence,

is the Path for me is Worshipping Goddess Kali.

italic">[Visti] Sri Vamana Avatara does exist – worship him, and continue

your worship of Mother Kali. Your faith is so strong, you made up a reason from

your chart to worship her. Btw. The Kali Beeja = Kreem, is also the beeja of

Mars. The reason you like Kali is because the 5th house in Räçi

has Moon, Saturn (BK), Sun and Rähu. The Moon is under Amavasya Dosha,

enhancing the worship of Kali – you must also have some strong

clairvoyant power from this worship.

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Ajay

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Pranaam guruDev,

 

Yes you are right. I have streched it too much. I got carried away

Thanks for clearing my doubts on this.

 

Gurudev, there are many mantras for Mother Kali. As per one of the

article by Param Gurudev Sanjay Rath ji, one should choose mantra

for 'Kali Upasana' according to the natal position of Saturn. Which

is fifth house in my case.

 

Please put some light on this aspect.

 

How many word and aksharas mantra I should use.

 

 

Pranaam

 

 

Ajay

 

 

 

 

 

 

, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

> |Hare Rama Krsna|

>

> Dear Ajay, Namaskar

>

> Your reasoning isn't too good. I have clarified below.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> visti@s...

>

> _____

>

> ajayzharotia [ajayzharotia]

> 22 November 2004 16:38

>

> [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Ista Devta-Recalculated-To Nitin ji

and

> Visti ji

>

>

>

>

> Pranaam Gurudev

>

> Ajay: 28th March 1968 New Delhi, 11.00 PM

>

> Keeping in mind what you indicated in your previous mail. I have

the

> following understanding. Please correct wherever I am wrong. Sorry

> for being to elaborate. Please have patience and bear with me as

you

> know it is important aspect to understand in ones life.

>

> First lets consider D-9

>

> 1. In D-9, I have Piscean in 12th from Atmakarak. Since this house

is

> empty the lord of the sign indicate the Ista deveta. In this case

> Jupiter.

>

> [Visti] This is correct.

>

> 2. Jupiter indicate lord Vishnu in his supreme manifestation i.e.

> Para Brahma, like Shri Satya Narayan Vishnu.

>

> [Visti] Guru basically.

>

> 3. Here in D-9, Ista deveta co-join Atmk Venus.

>

> 4. If you notice my Palan deveta that is suppose to be 6th from

> Amatya karak Mercury is sign of Virgo again empty indicates Mercury

> as Palan Devta. Mercury in Dual sign in D-9 indicate Vishnu Avatar

> according to Hari hara's opinion.

>

>

>

> [Visti] No – do not apply Harihara's rules to Ishta, Dharma, Palana

or Guru

> Devata's. For this use the deities Jaimini has used.

>

>

> 5. Since all the deity (Ista and Palan Deveta) are in the sign of

> Aries which is a fiery sign ruled by Mars then it means Palan

deveta

> could be Narsimha Avatar

>

> [Visti] That's stretching it somewhat – Guru+Mercury is the

Parampara Yoga –

> so a form which upholds the Parampara, which Vishnu does.

>

> 6. Hence, Ista deveta: Parma Brahma or supreme soul like Satya

> Narayan and Palan deveta is Narsimha Avatar.

>

>

>

> [Visti] Since Ishta and Palana are joined – why not worship them as

one –

> that way you only need to worship one and everything else in life

is taken

> care of? Jup+Merc is like Sri Vamana Avatara – learn the Dharma

Gayatri;

> Trini pada vi-chakrame, vishnurgopah… Rg Veda: 1.22.18

>

>

> Questions:

>

> 7. Please correct the above.

> 8. Second, point is, in this case Palan deveta also co-joins Ista

> deveta and Atmakarak Venus in karakmasa. So here we have a

situation

> where Atmakarak co-joins Ista deveta and Palan deveta in the same

> house. What does it signify?

> 9. All the planets are in quadrants in D-9 and in D-1 also aspect

by

> Grah dirshti. What does it signify?

> [Visti] Guess.

>

>

> Now ff you see D-20

>

> 1. Mars and Moon are in trine in d-20 indicate inclination towards

> divine mother especially of the aggressive (Mars influence) one.

>

>

>

> [Visti] It is your Guru who seems to like the mother – see the 5th

lord

> Jupiter joined Mercury – this is also your Ishta devata.

>

>

> 2. Mars in D-20 lagan in sign of Leo (fiery) is strong indication

of

> Mars propelling or influencing the desire to know the supreme.

>

> [Visti] right.

>

> 3. This is further strengthen in D-9 where Mars aspect (Rashi

> dirishti) Virgo (6th from Amatya Karak Mercury), Sagittarius which

is

> Mantra Pada, and Piscean which is 12th from Atama Karak.

>

> 4. Moon Aspect, Ista devta lord (Ju), Palan Deveta lord (Me) and

> Ataman karak by being in Lagna in D-9. and is in the sign of Ataman

> Karak (Libra).

>

> 5. More Over, in D-20 Moon is Aries sign rules by Mars which is

> Mantra Pada in the also D-20.

>

> 6. So What I gather from here is worshiping Divine Mother in fiery

> form could lead or propel the spiritual path. Like Goddess Mother

> Kali.

>

> [Visti] Gatistvam Gatistvam Tvam Eka Bhavani – this applies to

everyone.

>

>

>

> 7. Also in D-20 Mercury (Palan deveta) and Jupiter (Ista deveta) is

> in Aquarian 12th from Ataman Karak. As my knowledge goes Jupiter in

> Aquarian gives immense philosophical bend. This the sign of Saturn

> which is my Guru Deveta by being BK. And Saturn aspecting this

house

> (Aquarian) by Rashi Diristi.

>

> [Visti] Your stretching.

>

>

>

> Questions

>

> 1. Please correct and add to my understanding where ever I am

wrong.

> Please clear my understanding.

>

> 2. As my deity (Ista & Palan deveta) does not exist in actual form

by

> being all the houses (12th from AK and 6th from AmK in D-9)

> unoccupied by any planet, and Mars and Moon giving strong

influence,

> is the Path for me is Worshipping Goddess Kali.

>

>

>

> [Visti] Sri Vamana Avatara does exist – worship him, and continue

your

> worship of Mother Kali. Your faith is so strong, you made up a

reason from

> your chart to worship her. Btw. The Kali Beeja = Kreem, is also the

beeja of

> Mars. The reason you like Kali is because the 5th house in Räçi has

Moon,

> Saturn (BK), Sun and Rähu. The Moon is under Amavasya Dosha,

enhancing the

> worship of Kali – you must also have some strong clairvoyant power

from this

> worship.

>

>

>

>

> Prannam

>

> Ajay

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10.0pt;font-family:palati;color:blue">Dear Ajay, Namaskar

5, 17 or 29 aksharas…

5+multiples of 12.

10.0pt;font-family:palati;color:blue">Best wishes,

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23 November 2004 06:36

 

Re: [sJC: Achyuta

Gurukul] Ista Devta-Recalculated-To Nitin ji and Visti ji

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Pranaam guruDev,

Yes you are right. I have streched it too much. I

got carried away

Thanks for clearing my doubts on this.

Gurudev, there are many mantras for Mother Kali.

As per one of the

article by Param Gurudev Sanjay Rath ji, one

should choose mantra

for 'Kali Upasana' according to the natal position

of Saturn. Which

is fifth house in my case.

Please put some light on this aspect.

How many word and aksharas mantra I should use.

Pranaam

Ajay

, "Visti

Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

> |Hare Rama Krsna|

>

> Dear Ajay, Namaskar

>

> Your reasoning isn't too good. I have

clarified below.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> visti@s...

>

> _____

>

> ajayzharotia [ajayzharotia]

> 22 November 2004 16:38

>

> [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Ista

Devta-Recalculated-To Nitin ji

and

> Visti ji

>

>

>

>

> Pranaam Gurudev

>

> Ajay: 28th March 1968 New Delhi, 11.00 PM

>

> Keeping in mind what you indicated in your

previous mail. I have

the

> following understanding. Please correct

wherever I am wrong. Sorry

> for being to elaborate. Please have patience

and bear with me as

you

> know it is important aspect to understand in

ones life.

>

> First lets consider D-9

>

> 1. In D-9, I have Piscean in 12th from

Atmakarak. Since this house

is

> empty the lord of the sign indicate the Ista

deveta. In this case

> Jupiter.

>

> [Visti] This is correct.

>

> 2. Jupiter indicate lord Vishnu in his

supreme manifestation i.e.

> Para Brahma, like Shri Satya Narayan Vishnu.

>

> [Visti] Guru basically.

>

> 3. Here in D-9, Ista deveta co-join Atmk

Venus.

>

> 4. If you notice my Palan deveta that is

suppose to be 6th from

> Amatya karak Mercury is sign of Virgo again

empty indicates Mercury

> as Palan Devta. Mercury in Dual sign in D-9

indicate Vishnu Avatar

> according to Hari hara's opinion.

>

>

>

> [Visti] No – do not apply Harihara's

rules to Ishta, Dharma, Palana

or Guru

> Devata's. For this use the deities Jaimini

has used.

>

>

> 5. Since all the deity (Ista and Palan

Deveta) are in the sign of

> Aries which is a fiery sign ruled by Mars

then it means Palan

deveta

> could be Narsimha Avatar

>

> [Visti] That's stretching it somewhat –

Guru+Mercury is the

Parampara Yoga –

> so a form which upholds the Parampara, which

Vishnu does.

>

> 6. Hence, Ista deveta: Parma Brahma or

supreme soul like Satya

> Narayan and Palan deveta is Narsimha Avatar.

>

>

>

> [Visti] Since Ishta and Palana are joined

– why not worship them as

one –

> that way you only need to worship one and

everything else in life

is taken

> care of? Jup+Merc is like Sri Vamana Avatara

– learn the Dharma

Gayatri;

> Trini pada vi-chakrame,

vishnurgopah… Rg Veda: 1.22.18

>

>

> Questions:

>

> 7. Please correct the above.

> 8. Second, point is, in this case Palan

deveta also co-joins Ista

> deveta and Atmakarak Venus in karakmasa. So

here we have a

situation

> where Atmakarak co-joins Ista deveta and

Palan deveta in the same

> house. What does it signify?

> 9. All the planets are in quadrants in D-9

and in D-1 also aspect

by

> Grah dirshti. What does it signify?

> [Visti] Guess.

>

>

> Now ff you see D-20

>

> 1. Mars and Moon are in trine in d-20

indicate inclination towards

> divine mother especially of the aggressive

(Mars influence) one.

>

>

>

> [Visti] It is your Guru who seems to like the

mother – see the 5th

lord

> Jupiter joined Mercury – this is also

your Ishta devata.

>

>

> 2. Mars in D-20 lagan in sign of Leo (fiery)

is strong indication

of

> Mars propelling or influencing the desire to

know the supreme.

>

> [Visti] right.

>

> 3. This is further strengthen in D-9 where

Mars aspect (Rashi

> dirishti) Virgo (6th from Amatya Karak

Mercury), Sagittarius which

is

> Mantra Pada, and Piscean which is 12th from

Atama Karak.

>

> 4. Moon Aspect, Ista devta lord (Ju), Palan

Deveta lord (Me) and

> Ataman karak by being in Lagna in D-9. and is

in the sign of Ataman

> Karak (Libra).

>

> 5. More Over, in D-20 Moon is Aries sign

rules by Mars which is

> Mantra Pada in the also D-20.

>

> 6. So What I gather from here is worshiping

Divine Mother in fiery

> form could lead or propel the spiritual path.

Like Goddess Mother

> Kali.

>

> [Visti] Gatistvam Gatistvam Tvam Eka Bhavani

– this applies to

everyone.

>

>

>

> 7. Also in D-20 Mercury (Palan deveta) and

Jupiter (Ista deveta) is

> in Aquarian 12th from Ataman Karak. As my

knowledge goes Jupiter in

> Aquarian gives immense philosophical bend.

This the sign of Saturn

> which is my Guru Deveta by being BK. And

Saturn aspecting this

house

> (Aquarian) by Rashi Diristi.

>

> [Visti] Your stretching.

>

>

>

> Questions

>

> 1. Please correct and add to my understanding

where ever I am

wrong.

> Please clear my understanding.

>

> 2. As my deity (Ista & Palan deveta) does

not exist in actual form

by

> being all the houses (12th from AK and 6th

from AmK in D-9)

> unoccupied by any planet, and Mars and Moon

giving strong

influence,

> is the Path for me is Worshipping Goddess

Kali.

>

>

>

> [Visti] Sri Vamana Avatara does exist –

worship him, and continue

your

> worship of Mother Kali. Your faith is so

strong, you made up a

reason from

> your chart to worship her. Btw. The Kali

Beeja = Kreem, is also the

beeja of

> Mars. The reason you like Kali is because the

5th house in Räçi has

Moon,

> Saturn (BK), Sun and Rähu. The Moon is under

Amavasya Dosha,

enhancing the

> worship of Kali – you must also have

some strong clairvoyant power

from this

> worship.

>

>

>

>

> Prannam

>

> Ajay

>

>

>

>

>

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