Guest guest Posted November 21, 2004 Report Share Posted November 21, 2004 italic">|Hare Rama Krsna| italic">Dear Viswanadham and Rafal, Namaskar italic">Thankyou for your blessings. italic"> italic">When we are clear that the native is not Vishnu, we must admit to ourselves that the Ishta and AK cannot be the same planet, no matter what. italic">So any planet joining the AK or aspecting will become the Ishta. italic">Incase of Rafal, Mars joining will indicate the deity; Skanda, Hanuman or Narasimha could be the deity. italic"> Best wishes, Visti Larsen visti (AT) (DOT) org font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">vishwanatham [vishwanatham (AT) rocketmail (DOT) com] 21 November 2004 08:33 [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Ishta and AK is the same planet ? - to Visti ji 12.0pt"> font-family:"Courier New""> Hare Rama Krishna Dear Visti, Happy Birthday to you! Wish you many happy returns of the day! Let me answer this question. Dear Rafal, What i know is that, the person with AK & Ishta represented by the same planet is like an incarnation of God Himself! One important rider to this is that No other planet should join this planet (in the Navamsa). If another planet joins this planet, then the joining planet represents the Ishta devata. Hope to be corrected by Visti. regards viswanadham , "jyotraff" <jyotraff> wrote: > > Dear Visti Ji & Nitin Ji! > > What if the AK and Ishta is the same planet ? > > with regards, > rafal [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah] Send a blank mail To : - To : __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.nod32.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2004 Report Share Posted November 21, 2004 Congratulations, Visti- May one great year be ahead of you! And Q, sure.. Any planet ..aspecting AK becomes Ishta? In Rashi? You count r. drishti, argalas, as well, I guess? I have Mars conj. Rahu in 5th -Rahu based on long. in Rashi should be Ishta- 1/Mars is parivartana with Ju from 4th- does it change anything in manifestations during the ishta planet. period? 2//BTWSome opine that it's Mars which is my Ishta/. I thought that Ishta protects- not punishes? If so, it's similar to AK? Palana and K. Devata /same for me-Mercury/. protects, right? what if it's placed in dusthana/6th/in Rashi, and 3rd in navamsha? 3/10th Lord in 9th House, in Navamsa- what does it mean- it's not good in rashi, what about Navamsa? doe it apply to both benefic and malefic there? Thanks, AnnaVisti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear Viswanadham and Rafal, Namaskar Thankyou for your blessings. When we are clear that the native is not Vishnu, we must admit to ourselves that the Ishta and AK cannot be the same planet, no matter what. So any planet joining the AK or aspecting will become the Ishta. Incase of Rafal, Mars joining will indicate the deity; Skanda, Hanuman or Narasimha could be the deity. Best wishes, Visti Larsen visti (AT) (DOT) org vishwanatham [vishwanatham (AT) rocketmail (DOT) com] 21 November 2004 08:33Subject: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Ishta and AK is the same planet ? - to Visti ji Hare Rama KrishnaDear Visti,Happy Birthday to you! Wish you many happy returns of the day!Let me answer this question.Dear Rafal,What i know is that, the person with AK & Ishta represented by the same planet is like an incarnation of God Himself!One important rider to this is that No other planet should join this planet (in the Navamsa). If another planet joins this planet, then the joining planet represents the Ishta devata.Hope to be corrected by Visti.regardsviswanadham--- In , "jyotraff" <jyotraff> wrote:> > Dear Visti Ji & Nitin Ji!> > What if the AK and Ishta is the same planet ?> > with regards,> rafal 10pt">[Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]Send a blank mailTo : -To : __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.http://www.nod32.com [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]Send a blank mailTo : -To : Meet the all-new My – Try it today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 italic">|Hare Rama Krsna| italic">Dear Anna, italic">Thankyou for your blessings. italic"> italic">That rule only applies to cases when the AK and Ishta Devata become the same planet. In your chart, the Ishta is Mars and Rähu (Mars is stronger). italic"> italic">As for punishment… Its of 2 kinds, and significantly different. italic">The Ätmakäraka has an agenda for this birth, through which you will cleanse yourself of your sins. The AK-Dasa becomes painful if you do not listen to this Agenda. italic">The Ishta Devata wants you to remember him and remember God… If the Ishta decides that you have forgotten God – then its punishment can be quite severe. italic"> italic">Now Mars indicates that the Ishta will send someone to fight with you, and by the time the battle is over – you should have become spiritual. Rähu-Mars Yoga is quite volatile – preferably an aggressive form of the Mother is worshipped to get over this. italic"> Best wishes, Visti Larsen visti (AT) (DOT) org font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">A.R. [bonamente108 ] 22 November 2004 06:15 RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Ishta and AK is the same planet ? - to Visti ji 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Dear Visti, 12.0pt">Congratulations, Visti- May one great year be ahead of you! 12.0pt">And Q, sure.. 12.0pt">Any planet ..aspecting AK becomes Ishta? In Rashi? You count r. drishti, argalas, as well, I guess? 12.0pt"> I have Mars conj. Rahu in 5th -Rahu based on long. in Rashi should be Ishta- 12.0pt">1/Mars is parivartana with Ju from 4th- does it change anything in manifestations during the ishta planet. period? 12.0pt">2//BTWSome opine that it's Mars which is my Ishta/. I thought that Ishta protects- not punishes? If so, it's similar to AK? Palana and K. Devata /same for me-Mercury/. protects, right? what if it's placed in dusthana/6th/in Rashi, and 3rd in navamsha? 12.0pt">3/10th Lord in 9th House, in Navamsa- what does it mean- it's not good in rashi, what about Navamsa? doe it apply to both benefic and malefic there? 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Thanks, 12.0pt">Anna Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> italic">|Hare Rama Krsna| italic">Dear Viswanadham and Rafal, Namaskar italic">Thankyou for your blessings. italic"> italic">When we are clear that the native is not Vishnu, we must admit to ourselves that the Ishta and AK cannot be the same planet, no matter what. italic">So any planet joining the AK or aspecting will become the Ishta. italic">Incase of Rafal, Mars joining will indicate the deity; Skanda, Hanuman or Narasimha could be the deity. italic"> Best wishes, Visti Larsen visti (AT) (DOT) org font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">vishwanatham [vishwanatham (AT) rocketmail (DOT) com] 21 November 2004 08:33 [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Ishta and AK is the same planet ? - to Visti ji 12.0pt"> Hare Rama Krishna Dear Visti, Happy Birthday to you! Wish you many happy returns of the day! Let me answer this question. Dear Rafal, What i know is that, the person with AK & Ishta represented by the same planet is like an incarnation of God Himself! One important rider to this is that No other planet should join this planet (in the Navamsa). If another planet joins this planet, then the joining planet represents the Ishta devata. Hope to be corrected by Visti. regards viswanadham , "jyotraff" <jyotraff> wrote: > > Dear Visti Ji & Nitin Ji! > > What if the AK and Ishta is the same planet ? > > with regards, > rafal [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah] Send a blank mail To : - To : 12.0pt"> __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.nod32.com [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah] Send a blank mail To : - To : 12.0pt"> Meet the all-new My Try it today! [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah] Send a blank mail To : - To : __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.nod32.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 Thank you Visti. I got it better now. AK period was incomparable to any other, this one included- still trying to understand, let me use your term, bcs it's right, what the "agenda" was. God cannot be forgotten- maybe that's why my 'sharp' ID "spared me" thank Lord! Otherwise, after AK period, ... I might have become so very spiritual, spirit only, lol! Best wishes, AnnaVisti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear Anna, Thankyou for your blessings. That rule only applies to cases when the AK and Ishta Devata become the same planet. In your chart, the Ishta is Mars and Rähu (Mars is stronger). As for punishment… Its of 2 kinds, and significantly different. The Ätmakäraka has an agenda for this birth, through which you will cleanse yourself of your sins. The AK-Dasa becomes painful if you do not listen to this Agenda. The Ishta Devata wants you to remember him and remember God… If the Ishta decides that you have forgotten God – then its punishment can be quite severe. Now Mars indicates that the Ishta will send someone to fight with you, and by the time the battle is over – you should have become spiritual. Rähu-Mars Yoga is quite volatile – preferably an aggressive form of the Mother is worshipped to get over this. Best wishes, Visti Larsen visti (AT) (DOT) org A.R. [bonamente108 ] 22 November 2004 06:15To: Subject: RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Ishta and AK is the same planet ? - to Visti ji Dear Visti, Congratulations, Visti- May one great year be ahead of you! And Q, sure.. Any planet ..aspecting AK becomes Ishta? In Rashi? You count r. drishti, argalas, as well, I guess? I have Mars conj. Rahu in 5th -Rahu based on long. in Rashi should be Ishta- 1/Mars is parivartana with Ju from 4th- does it change anything in manifestations during the ishta planet. period? 2//BTWSome opine that it's Mars which is my Ishta/. I thought that Ishta protects- not punishes? If so, it's similar to AK? Palana and K. Devata /same for me-Mercury/. protects, right? what if it's placed in dusthana/6th/in Rashi, and 3rd in navamsha? 3/10th Lord in 9th House, in Navamsa- what does it mean- it's not good in rashi, what about Navamsa? doe it apply to both benefic and malefic there? Thanks, AnnaVisti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear Viswanadham and Rafal, Namaskar Thankyou for your blessings. When we are clear that the native is not Vishnu, we must admit to ourselves that the Ishta and AK cannot be the same planet, no matter what. So any planet joining the AK or aspecting will become the Ishta. Incase of Rafal, Mars joining will indicate the deity; Skanda, Hanuman or Narasimha could be the deity. Best wishes, Visti Larsen visti (AT) (DOT) org vishwanatham [vishwanatham (AT) rocketmail (DOT) com] 21 November 2004 08:33Subject: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Ishta and AK is the same planet ? - to Visti ji Hare Rama KrishnaDear Visti,Happy Birthday to you! Wish you many happy returns of the day!Let me answer this question.Dear Rafal,What i know is that, the person with AK & Ishta represented by the same planet is like an incarnation of God Himself!One important rider to this is that No other planet should join this planet (in the Navamsa). If another planet joins this planet, then the joining planet represents the Ishta devata.Hope to be corrected by Visti.regardsviswanadham, "jyotraff" <jyotraff> wrote:> > Dear Visti Ji & Nitin Ji!> > What if the AK and Ishta is the same planet ?> > with regards,> rafal[Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]Send a blank mailTo : -To : __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.http://www.nod32.com [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]Send a blank mailTo : -To : Meet the all-new My Try it today! [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]Send a blank mailTo : -To : __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.http://www.nod32.com [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]Send a blank mailTo : -To : The all-new My – Get yours free! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 Dear Visti, I'm back with the same Q- You say:"So any planet joining the AK or aspecting will become the Ishta. Incase of Rafal, Mars joining will indicate the deity; Skanda, Hanuman or Narasimha could be the deity. Assuming that you've had Navamsa in mind, I am still not getting this 'aspecting'. Navamsha AK can have many aspects, but Ishta is 12th from it- Is there any other way that I haven't heard of?Thanks, Anna The all-new My – What will yours do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 | color:blue">Hare Rama Krsna| 10.0pt;font-family:palati;color:blue">Dear Anna, Namaskar 10.0pt;font-family:palati;color:blue">If the 12th from AK is unoccupied, and the lord of the same is the AK itself – then aspects on the AK will be aspects on the Ishta itself. So actually we’re seeing aspects on the Ishta Devata to determine which is the deity. 10.0pt;font-family:palati;color:blue">Best wishes, 10.0pt;font-family:palati;color:blue">Visti Larsen 10.0pt;font-family:palati;color:blue">visti (AT) (DOT) org font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">A.R. [bonamente108 ] 24 November 2004 05:16 RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Ishta and AK is the same planet ? - to Visti ji 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Dear Visti, 12.0pt">I'm back with the same Q- 12.0pt">You say: italic">"So any planet joining the AK or aspecting will become the Ishta. Incase of Rafal, Mars joining will indicate the deity; Skanda, Hanuman or Narasimha could be the deity. font-family:"Palatino Linotype";color:navy;font-style:italic"> font-family:"Palatino Linotype";color:navy;font-style:italic">Assuming that you've had Navamsa in mind, I am still not getting this 'aspecting'. Navamsha AK can have many aspects, but Ishta is 12th from it- font-family:"Palatino Linotype";color:navy;font-style:italic">Is there any other way that I haven't heard of? font-family:"Palatino Linotype";color:navy;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic"> Thanks, font-family:"Palatino Linotype";color:navy;font-style:italic">Anna 12.0pt"> The all-new My What will yours do? [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah] Send a blank mail To : - To : __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.nod32.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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