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Dear VistiJI!

Namaskar

Thank You.

> 2. My 5H in d-20 is aspected by Moon - this makes me a devotee of

> Krsna ?

>

> [Visti] Yes – Moon or Mercury usually. I use abit more to confirm

whether

> its devi/krishna, etc. I have Mars and Sun aspecting an unoccupied

5th house

> – I'm a bhakta of Sürya and Agni.

>

I read that Venus is also for bhakti what do You think ?

> 4. In my Vimsamsa (d-20) : i have lord of 5 (devotion) in 10

house

> (8+3 = energy to make sadhana) it is sign of work in sadhana for

> devotion ?

>

> [Visti] What does it mean in Räçi chart?

Lord of 5 in 10 means that work can be related to teaching, or

native likes to work, or children can influence work, or love can be

a part of work. (according to me)

>

>>

> [Visti] Every day when i wake up, I do mantra's to ensure that I

can teach,

> teach, teach. But now I must teach you to think in the right

lines, so you

> can answer your own questions… otherwise we could spend a lifetime

asking

> and answering questions.

>

I try to think myself, but I have to know if I am right.

with respect,

Rafal

November 17, 2004

|Hare Rama

Krsna|

Dear Rafal, Comments

below.

Best wishes,

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Dear VistiJI!

Namaskar

Thank You.

> 2. My 5H in d-20 is aspected by Moon - this

makes me a devotee of

> Krsna ?

>

> [Visti] Yes – Moon or Mercury usually.

I use abit more to confirm

whether

> its devi/krishna, etc. I have Mars and Sun

aspecting an unoccupied

5th house

> – I'm a bhakta of Sürya and Agni.

>

I read that Venus is also for bhakti what do You

think ?

bold;font-style:italic">[Visti] Among Bhäva’s – 5th house

is Bhakti. Now the type of Bhakti is of 2 kinds; Vasudeva Kutumbak (the whole

world is family) – Jupiter. Or Girlfriend-bhakti; which is Venus…

obviously. This you will find in the 5th house chapter of COVA too.

> 4. In my Vimsamsa (d-20) : i have lord

of 5 (devotion) in 10

house

> (8+3 = energy to make sadhana) it is sign of

work in sadhana for

> devotion ?

>

> [Visti] What does it mean in Räçi chart?

Lord of 5 in 10 means that work can be related to

teaching, or

native likes to work, or children can influence

work, or love can be

a part of work. (according to me)

bold;font-style:italic">[Visti] Ahh… read Päräçara.

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>

>>

> [Visti] Every day when i wake up, I do

mantra's to ensure that I

can teach,

> teach, teach. But now I must teach you to

think in the right

lines, so you

> can answer your own questions…

otherwise we could spend a lifetime

asking

> and answering questions.

>

I try to think myself, but I have to know if I am

right.

with respect,

Rafal

[Om Kleem

Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]

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Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

Dear Visti,

I am tempted to ask about 5H in D20. I have Saturn, Venus in in 5H with rashi

drishti of Sun, Moon, Mars and Mercury and graha drishti of Rahu! which deity

am I likely to adore?

Can this knowledge be used for birth time rectification?

Is there a link between Ishta Devta and deity adored? I see Saturn, Venus and

Rahu, Mars and Sun involved in both!

Kind Regards

Ramesh

Visti Larsen

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|Hare Rama Krsna|

Dear Rafal, Comments below.

Best wishes,

Visti Larsen

jyotraff [jyotraff ] 17 November 2004 05:51To:

Subject: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] ques tions - to

Visti JI!

Dear Visti Ji!Namaskar.1. In Navamsa : when 2H is aspected by venus by rasi

drishti it also can give extramaritial relationships ?

[Visti] Räçi dristi = strong libido/virility. Graha dristi = sexual desires/passion.

2. My 5H in d-20 is aspected by Moon - this makes me a devotee of Krsna ?

[Visti] Yes – Moon or Mercury usually. I use abit more to confirm whether its

devi/krishna, etc. I have Mars and Sun aspecting an unoccupied 5th house – I’m

a bhakta of Sürya and Agni.

3. Why Jup in 3H in d-9 means that she will be chaste , 9 house means morals of

spouse (7+9) , not morals of herself ?

[Visti] Sometimes the morals of those you associate with, influence your

morals/ideals. That’s why some people after their spouse cheats on them, they

start cheating on their spouse. In this chart, Only planet in trines is

Mercury. Mercury is neither influenced strongly by Moon (Soma – his promiscuous

father) nor Jupiter (Brhaspati his chaste step-father), so I cannot look at it.

Among Moon and Jupiter, Jupiter has rasi dristi on the Lagna. I also look at

Rähu who also has no connection with the Lagna. So finally I decided that she

was chaste, as Jupiter has the strongest influence on the Lagna.

4. In my Vimsamsa (d-20) : i have lord of 5 (devotion) in 10 house (8+3 =

energy to make sadhana) it is sign of work in sadhana for devotion ?

[Visti] What does it mean in Räçi chart?

5. You said that UL with 8 H makes fixed marriage, so UL in 8 means fixed marriage ?

[Visti] Nope – not necessarily. If UL is in the 8th house – you feel indebted to

your spouse – as if you owe them to be married to them. But if 8th lord itself

is there, then it may be a fixed marriage.

6. When Planet is Vakra in Rasi, it is also Vakra in D-n and the meaning of

Vakra stays the same in D-n charts ?

[Visti] In my experience – yes.

Please tell me when You have enough;)

[Visti] Every day when i wake up, I do mantra’s to ensure that I can teach,

teach, teach. But now I must teach you to think in the right lines, so you can

answer your own questions… otherwise we could spend a lifetime asking and

answering questions.

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November 17, 2004

|Hare Rama

Krsna|

Dear Ramesh,

Namaskar

Yes it is

used for rectification.

Actually

Ishta means “most desired”. In Jätaka Parijata, the 5th house

is called; Ishta Devata, and that’s why many people have argued that

Sanjayji’s use of the term is wrong and have argued against many other of

his teachings in a similar manor. In fact some have completely abolished the

use of 12th from Kärakämça because of this.

But in the Parampara

that Sanjayji was brought up in, Ishta Devata SHOULD be that deity which gives

you moksha! Makes sense eh? This is a Parampara from Orissa where worship of

Jagannath is at its highest, so you can imagine the logic going into this.

So because of

this; Sanjayji was taught that the word; Ishta is used for the Mukti-devata, or

what you may call it.

To save us

from this trouble of having to argue with others - in Chandra Kala Nadi,

another name is given for the 12th from Kärakämça; Jeevanmukta-amsa.

Meaning; that division (amsa) that gives liberation in this body (jeevan-mukta).

Once we’ve

settled the confusion over terms, and we know that Jaimini uses the same 12th

from Kärakämça, we can proceed.

Now the 5th

house in Vimsamsa (particularly vimsamsa, but doesn’t mean Räçi cannot be

seen for similar indications) shows which deity you like the most. Some people

like to worship pisachas, and spirits. There is no chance that this will give

moksha, so we must admit to ourselves that 5th house does not have

to be connected to the Jeevanmuktamsa Devata. You may like one deity, but it is

a different one which is giving moksha. In most cases, the deity giving moksha

is realized after tedious worship of ones desired deity.

Preferably

you should like your Mukti-Devata, so aspire to have the Mukti Devata

associated with 5th house.

I like

Vishnu, and Mercury lords the 5th house in D-20, Mercury is also the

Mukti-devata in my case… lucky me. Which deity do you like?

Best wishes,

Visti Larsen

font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">Ramesh

Gangaramani [ramesh.gangaramani (AT) ae (DOT) york.com]

17 November 2004 14:19

RE: [sJC: Achyuta

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10.0pt;font-family:Georgia;color:blue">Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

12.0pt">

10.0pt;font-family:Georgia;color:blue">Dear Visti,

10.0pt;font-family:Georgia;color:blue">I am tempted to ask about 5H in D20. I

have Saturn, Venus in in 5H with rashi drishti of Sun, Moon, Mars and Mercury

and graha drishti of Rahu! which deity am I likely to adore?

10.0pt;font-family:Georgia;color:blue">Can this knowledge be used for birth

time rectification?

10.0pt;font-family:Georgia;color:blue">Is there a link between Ishta Devta and

deity adored? I see Saturn, Venus and Rahu, Mars and Sun involved in both!

10.0pt;font-family:Georgia;color:blue">Kind Regards

10.0pt;font-family:Georgia;color:blue">Ramesh

Visti Larsen

[visti (AT) (DOT) org]

Wednesday, November 17, 2004

4:29 PM

RE: [sJC: Achyuta

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|Hare Rama

Krsna|

Dear Rafal,

Comments below.

Best wishes,

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Dear Visti Ji!

Namaskar.

1. In Navamsa : when 2H is aspected by venus by

rasi drishti it also

can give extramaritial relationships ?

bold;font-style:italic">[Visti] Räçi dristi = strong libido/virility. Graha

dristi = sexual desires/passion.

2. My 5H in d-20 is aspected by Moon - this makes

me a devotee of

Krsna ?

bold;font-style:italic">[Visti] Yes – Moon or Mercury usually. I use abit

more to confirm whether its devi/krishna, etc. I have Mars and Sun aspecting an

unoccupied 5th house – I’m a bhakta of Sürya and Agni.

3. Why Jup in 3H in d-9 means that she will be

chaste , 9 house

means morals of spouse (7+9) , not morals of

herself ?

bold;font-style:italic">[Visti] Sometimes the morals of those you associate

with, influence your morals/ideals. That’s why some people after their

spouse cheats on them, they start cheating on their spouse. In this chart, Only

planet in trines is Mercury. Mercury is neither influenced strongly by Moon

(Soma – his promiscuous father) nor Jupiter (Brhaspati his chaste

step-father), so I cannot look at it. Among Moon and Jupiter, Jupiter has rasi

dristi on the Lagna. I also look at Rähu who also has no connection with the

Lagna. So finally I decided that she was chaste, as Jupiter has the strongest

influence on the Lagna.

4. In my Vimsamsa (d-20) : i have lord of 5

(devotion) in 10 house

(8+3 = energy to make sadhana) it is sign of work

in sadhana for

devotion ?

bold;font-style:italic">[Visti] What does it mean in Räçi chart?

5. You said that UL with 8 H makes fixed marriage,

so UL in 8 means

fixed marriage ?

bold;font-style:italic">[Visti] Nope – not necessarily. If UL is in the 8th

house – you feel indebted to your spouse – as if you owe them to be

married to them. But if 8th lord itself is there, then it may be a

fixed marriage.

6. When Planet is Vakra in Rasi, it is also Vakra

in D-n and the

meaning of Vakra stays the same in D-n charts ?

bold;font-style:italic">[Visti] In my experience – yes.

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Please tell me when You have enough;)

bold;font-style:italic">[Visti] Every day when i wake up, I do mantra’s

to ensure that I can teach, teach, teach. But now I must teach you to think in

the right lines, so you can answer your own questions… otherwise we could

spend a lifetime asking and answering questions.

bold;font-style:italic">

with respect,

yhs Rafal

[Om Kleem

Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]

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Dear Visti,Namaskar

After reading this post of your I immediately went and checked my

Vimsamsa 5th house and its lord.

I personally like Lord Krishna, 5th house in D-20 is Virgo and

Mercury is in Cancer.

12th from karakamsa is Sg with no planets so Ishta Devata is

SambhaSiva ?

Please let me know if my reasoning is correct.

Regards,

Sameer

, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

> |Hare Rama Krsna|

>

> Dear Ramesh, Namaskar

>

> Yes it is used for rectification.

>

> Actually Ishta means "most desired". In Jätaka Parijata, the 5th

house is

> called; Ishta Devata, and that's why many people have argued that

Sanjayji's

> use of the term is wrong and have argued against many other of his

teachings

> in a similar manor. In fact some have completely abolished the use

of 12th

> from Kärakämça because of this.

>

> But in the Parampara that Sanjayji was brought up in, Ishta Devata

SHOULD be

> that deity which gives you moksha! Makes sense eh? This is a

Parampara from

> Orissa where worship of Jagannath is at its highest, so you can

imagine the

> logic going into this.

>

> So because of this; Sanjayji was taught that the word; Ishta is

used for the

> Mukti-devata, or what you may call it.

>

> To save us from this trouble of having to argue with others - in

Chandra

> Kala Nadi, another name is given for the 12th from Kärakämça;

> Jeevanmukta-amsa. Meaning; that division (amsa) that gives

liberation in

> this body (jeevan-mukta).

>

> Once we've settled the confusion over terms, and we know that

Jaimini uses

> the same 12th from Kärakämça, we can proceed.

>

> Now the 5th house in Vimsamsa (particularly vimsamsa, but doesn't

mean Räçi

> cannot be seen for similar indications) shows which deity you like

the most.

> Some people like to worship pisachas, and spirits. There is no

chance that

> this will give moksha, so we must admit to ourselves that 5th house

does not

> have to be connected to the Jeevanmuktamsa Devata. You may like one

deity,

> but it is a different one which is giving moksha. In most cases,

the deity

> giving moksha is realized after tedious worship of ones desired

deity.

>

> Preferably you should like your Mukti-Devata, so aspire to have the

Mukti

> Devata associated with 5th house.

>

> I like Vishnu, and Mercury lords the 5th house in D-20, Mercury is

also the

> Mukti-devata in my case… lucky me. Which deity do you like?

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> visti@s...

>

> _____

>

> Ramesh Gangaramani [ramesh.gangaramani@a...]

> 17 November 2004 14:19

>

> RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] ques tions - to Visti JI!

>

> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

>

> Dear Visti,

>

> I am tempted to ask about 5H in D20. I have Saturn, Venus in in 5H

with

> rashi drishti of Sun, Moon, Mars and Mercury and graha drishti of

Rahu!

> which deity am I likely to adore?

>

> Can this knowledge be used for birth time rectification?

>

> Is there a link between Ishta Devta and deity adored? I see Saturn,

Venus

> and Rahu, Mars and Sun involved in both!

>

> Kind Regards

>

> Ramesh

>

> Visti Larsen [visti@s...]

> Wednesday, November 17, 2004 4:29 PM

>

> RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] ques tions - to Visti JI!

>

> |Hare Rama Krsna|

>

> Dear Rafal, Comments below.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> visti@s...

_____

>

> jyotraff [jyotraff]

> 17 November 2004 05:51

>

> [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] ques tions - to Visti JI!

>

> Dear Visti Ji!

>

> Namaskar.

>

> 1. In Navamsa : when 2H is aspected by venus by rasi drishti it

also

> can give extramaritial relationships ?

>

> [Visti] Räçi dristi = strong libido/virility. Graha dristi = sexual

> desires/passion.

>

> 2. My 5H in d-20 is aspected by Moon - this makes me a devotee of

> Krsna ?

>

> [Visti] Yes – Moon or Mercury usually. I use abit more to confirm

whether

> its devi/krishna, etc. I have Mars and Sun aspecting an unoccupied

5th house

> – I'm a bhakta of Sürya and Agni.

>

> 3. Why Jup in 3H in d-9 means that she will be chaste , 9 house

> means morals of spouse (7+9) , not morals of herself ?

>

> [Visti] Sometimes the morals of those you associate with, influence

your

> morals/ideals. That's why some people after their spouse cheats on

them,

> they start cheating on their spouse. In this chart, Only planet in

trines is

> Mercury. Mercury is neither influenced strongly by Moon (Soma – his

> promiscuous father) nor Jupiter (Brhaspati his chaste step-father),

so I

> cannot look at it. Among Moon and Jupiter, Jupiter has rasi dristi

on the

> Lagna. I also look at Rähu who also has no connection with the

Lagna. So

> finally I decided that she was chaste, as Jupiter has the strongest

> influence on the Lagna.

>

> 4. In my Vimsamsa (d-20) : i have lord of 5 (devotion) in 10 house

> (8+3 = energy to make sadhana) it is sign of work in sadhana for

> devotion ?

>

> [Visti] What does it mean in Räçi chart?

>

> 5. You said that UL with 8 H makes fixed marriage, so UL in 8 means

> fixed marriage ?

>

> [Visti] Nope – not necessarily. If UL is in the 8th house – you feel

> indebted to your spouse – as if you owe them to be married to them.

But if

> 8th lord itself is there, then it may be a fixed marriage.

>

> 6. When Planet is Vakra in Rasi, it is also Vakra in D-n and the

> meaning of Vakra stays the same in D-n charts ?

>

> [Visti] In my experience – yes.

>

> Please tell me when You have enough;)

>

> [Visti] Every day when i wake up, I do mantra's to ensure that I

can teach,

> teach, teach. But now I must teach you to think in the right lines,

so you

> can answer your own questions… otherwise we could spend a lifetime

asking

> and answering questions.

>

> with respect,

> yhs Rafal

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Dear Sameer,

Namaskar

Your

reasoning is correct.

As for Istha –

Jupiter actually means the Guru. It can be a Guru in any form – and the

point about Jupiter is that it encompasses all forms of God. It is the

Parambrahma form. To reach the Ishta Devata for such people is no doubt an

interesting process as here Vishnu is; Sarvavyapakeshvara – everywhere,

in everything.

To start with

realizing this, we usually advise the worship of Shiva as the Guru –

Sambashiva or Sadashiva. Try this mantra; “OM bhur bhuvaH svaH

sambasadashivaaya namaH”.

Best wishes,

Visti Larsen

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Dear Visti,Namaskar

After reading this post of your I immediately went

and checked my

Vimsamsa 5th house and its lord.

I personally like Lord Krishna, 5th house in D-20

is Virgo and

Mercury is in Cancer.

12th from karakamsa is Sg with no planets so Ishta

Devata is

SambhaSiva ?

Please let me know if my reasoning is correct.

Regards,

Sameer

, "Visti

Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

> |Hare Rama Krsna|

>

> Dear Ramesh, Namaskar

>

> Yes it is used for rectification.

>

> Actually Ishta means "most

desired". In Jätaka Parijata, the 5th

house is

> called; Ishta Devata, and that's why many

people have argued that

Sanjayji's

> use of the term is wrong and have argued

against many other of his

teachings

> in a similar manor. In fact some have

completely abolished the use

of 12th

> from Kärakämça because of this.

>

> But in the Parampara that Sanjayji was

brought up in, Ishta Devata

SHOULD be

> that deity which gives you moksha! Makes

sense eh? This is a

Parampara from

> Orissa where worship of Jagannath is at its

highest, so you can

imagine the

> logic going into this.

>

> So because of this; Sanjayji was taught that

the word; Ishta is

used for the

> Mukti-devata, or what you may call it.

>

> To save us from this trouble of having to

argue with others - in

Chandra

> Kala Nadi, another name is given for the 12th

from Kärakämça;

> Jeevanmukta-amsa. Meaning; that division

(amsa) that gives

liberation in

> this body (jeevan-mukta).

>

> Once we've settled the confusion over terms,

and we know that

Jaimini uses

> the same 12th from Kärakämça, we can proceed.

>

> Now the 5th house in Vimsamsa (particularly

vimsamsa, but doesn't

mean Räçi

> cannot be seen for similar indications) shows

which deity you like

the most.

> Some people like to worship pisachas, and

spirits. There is no

chance that

> this will give moksha, so we must admit to

ourselves that 5th house

does not

> have to be connected to the Jeevanmuktamsa

Devata. You may like one

deity,

> but it is a different one which is giving

moksha. In most cases,

the deity

> giving moksha is realized after tedious

worship of ones desired

deity.

>

> Preferably you should like your Mukti-Devata,

so aspire to have the

Mukti

> Devata associated with 5th house.

>

> I like Vishnu, and Mercury lords the 5th

house in D-20, Mercury is

also the

> Mukti-devata in my case… lucky me.

Which deity do you like?

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> visti@s...

>

> _____

>

> Ramesh Gangaramani

[ramesh.gangaramani@a...]

> 17 November 2004 14:19

>

> RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] ques

tions - to Visti JI!

>

> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

>

> Dear Visti,

>

> I am tempted to ask about 5H in D20. I have

Saturn, Venus in in 5H

with

> rashi drishti of Sun, Moon, Mars and Mercury

and graha drishti of

Rahu!

> which deity am I likely to adore?

>

> Can this knowledge be used for birth time

rectification?

>

> Is there a link between Ishta Devta and deity

adored? I see Saturn,

Venus

> and Rahu, Mars and Sun involved in both!

>

> Kind Regards

>

> Ramesh

>

> Visti Larsen [visti@s...]

> Wednesday, November 17, 2004 4:29 PM

>

> RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] ques

tions - to Visti JI!

>

> |Hare Rama Krsna|

>

> Dear Rafal, Comments below.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> visti@s...

>

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> jyotraff [jyotraff]

> 17 November 2004 05:51

>

> [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] ques tions -

to Visti JI!

>

> Dear Visti Ji!

>

> Namaskar.

>

> 1. In Navamsa : when 2H is aspected by venus

by rasi drishti it

also

> can give extramaritial relationships ?

>

> [Visti] Räçi dristi = strong libido/virility.

Graha dristi = sexual

> desires/passion.

>

> 2. My 5H in d-20 is aspected by Moon - this

makes me a devotee of

> Krsna ?

>

> [Visti] Yes – Moon or Mercury usually.

I use abit more to confirm

whether

> its devi/krishna, etc. I have Mars and Sun

aspecting an unoccupied

5th house

> – I'm a bhakta of Sürya and Agni.

>

> 3. Why Jup in 3H in d-9 means that she will

be chaste , 9 house

> means morals of spouse (7+9) , not morals of

herself ?

>

> [Visti] Sometimes the morals of those you

associate with, influence

your

> morals/ideals. That's why some people after

their spouse cheats on

them,

> they start cheating on their spouse. In this

chart, Only planet in

trines is

> Mercury. Mercury is neither influenced

strongly by Moon (Soma – his

> promiscuous father) nor Jupiter (Brhaspati

his chaste step-father),

so I

> cannot look at it. Among Moon and Jupiter,

Jupiter has rasi dristi

on the

> Lagna. I also look at Rähu who also has no

connection with the

Lagna. So

> finally I decided that she was chaste, as

Jupiter has the strongest

> influence on the Lagna.

>

> 4. In my Vimsamsa (d-20) : i have lord

of 5 (devotion) in 10 house

> (8+3 = energy to make sadhana) it is sign of

work in sadhana for

> devotion ?

>

> [Visti] What does it mean in Räçi chart?

>

> 5. You said that UL with 8 H makes fixed

marriage, so UL in 8 means

> fixed marriage ?

>

> [Visti] Nope – not necessarily. If UL

is in the 8th house – you feel

> indebted to your spouse – as if you owe

them to be married to them.

But if

> 8th lord itself is there, then it may be a

fixed marriage.

>

> 6. When Planet is Vakra in Rasi, it is also

Vakra in D-n and the

> meaning of Vakra stays the same in D-n charts

?

>

> [Visti] In my experience – yes.

>

> Please tell me when You have enough;)

>

> [Visti] Every day when i wake up, I do

mantra's to ensure that I

can teach,

> teach, teach. But now I must teach you to

think in the right lines,

so you

> can answer your own questions…

otherwise we could spend a lifetime

asking

> and answering questions.

>

> with respect,

> yhs Rafal

>

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Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

Dear Visti, Namaskar!

Many thanks for your enlightening mail.

My attempt to answer your last question brings up names like Lord Shiva, Guru

Nanak, Ganesha, Shirdi Sai baba..... I enjoy listening to 'Om Namo Narayana',

'hare krishna' and also 'guru bani'. I was lucky to have been brought up in a

religious surroundings (mother and a paternal uncle living with us). I am also

comfortable with Mother Marry and Jesus (Studied in a missionary school).

Does this tally with the planets influencing 5H in D20?

Kind regards

Ramesh

Visti Larsen

[visti (AT) (DOT) org]Wednesday, November 17, 2004 5:52 PMTo:

Cc: vedic astrology;

varahamihiraSubject: RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] ques tions - to

Visti JI!

|Hare Rama Krsna|

Dear Ramesh, Namaskar

Yes it is used for rectification.

Actually Ishta means “most desired”. In Jätaka Parijata, the 5th house is

called; Ishta Devata, and that’s why many people have argued that Sanjayji’s

use of the term is wrong and have argued against many other of his teachings in

a similar manor. In fact some have completely abolished the use of 12th from

Kärakämça because of this.

But in the Parampara that Sanjayji was brought up in, Ishta Devata SHOULD be

that deity which gives you moksha! Makes sense eh? This is a Parampara from

Orissa where worship of Jagannath is at its highest, so you can imagine the

logic going into this.

So because of this; Sanjayji was taught that the word; Ishta is used for the

Mukti-devata, or what you may call it.

To save us from this trouble of having to argue with others - in Chandra Kala

Nadi, another name is given for the 12th from Kärakämça; Jeevanmukta-amsa.

Meaning; that division (amsa) that gives liberation in this body

(jeevan-mukta).

Once we’ve settled the confusion over terms, and we know that Jaimini uses the

same 12th from Kärakämça, we can proceed.

Now the 5th house in Vimsamsa (particularly vimsamsa, but doesn’t mean Räçi

cannot be seen for similar indications) shows which deity you like the most.

Some people like to worship pisachas, and spirits. There is no chance that this

will give moksha, so we must admit to ourselves that 5th house does not have to

be connected to the Jeevanmuktamsa Devata. You may like one deity, but it is a

different one which is giving moksha. In most cases, the deity giving moksha is

realized after tedious worship of ones desired deity.

Preferably you should like your Mukti-Devata, so aspire to have the Mukti Devata

associated with 5th house.

I like Vishnu, and Mercury lords the 5th house in D-20, Mercury is also the

Mukti-devata in my case… lucky me. Which deity do you like?

Best wishes,

Visti Larsen