RE: [SJC: Achyuta Gurukul] retro planets/past life - Visti and all

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Dear Visti,

In my case 5L Mercury is in Lagna Aquarius. Did Saturn cause the delay?

Jupiter is also aspected by Saturn from 4H.

Jupiter is lord of 2H (2H is associated with past lives and the potential we

bring from them - yes?and 11H.

Thanks for helping us undestand all this.

Love,

Gili

 

>"Visti Larsen" <visti

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>RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] retro planets/past life

>Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:01:10 -0400

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>|Hare Rama Krsna|

>

>Dear Vishwanatham, Namaskar

>

>Analyze in 2 steps;

>

>1) Karaka

>

>2) Lordship

>

>

>

>I.e. if Jupiter is retrograde, then also analyze 5th lord to see whether

>the

>problem is in the area of children. Otherwise see the lordship of Jupiter

>and the Karaka's of the house which Jupiter lords.

>

>

>

>If both the Karaka and the lordship have a dosha, then make your

>prediction.

>

>Best wishes,

>

>

>

>

>

>Visti Larsen

> <visti visti

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>vishwanatham [vishwanatham]

>26 October 2004 05:26

>

>[sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] retro planets/past life

>

>

>

>

>Hare Rama Krishna

>

>Dear Suchitra,

>

>Good question.

>

>Look at the naisargika karakatwa of the planet. In case of Jupiter,

>say children.

>

>Second is look at the 7th from the planet. That is because we are

>talking of desires(7th house) and every planet(except moksha karaka

>Ketu) gives 7th house aspect! The retrograde planet will give results

>in the area of that house, which is in the 7th from it. This also

>explains, why a retrograde planet acts as debilitated, when in

>exaltation sign and vice-versa.

>

>Generally, retro planets give results very late, after a lot of

>effort! There was an exchange of mails a couple of weeks ago. Please

>have a look at them.

>

>In case of a retro Jupiter, the native may have lot of desire for

>having children and adopt modern methods (unconventional, which is

>not a Jupiterian trait, rather like a Rahu!) to obtain children. (i

>am not judging any one here)

>

>Atmakaraka is a different thing. Car owner (jeevatma) is going

>wherever the driver (mind) is taking. Car itself is like the lagna,

>which the driver is more concerned about, because here the owner is a

>silent spectator! Try to understand retrograde planets, without

>getting into AK, which is like a King's desire, overrides everything

>else.

>

>Hope this helps.

>

>regards

>viswanadham

>

>

>

>

>, "suchitra_kamath"

><suchitra_kamath> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Hello Viswanatham,

> >

> > I want to clarify myself from whatever I understood from your

> > explanation.

> > Suppose a person has retrograde Jupiter(house 5) and Mercury(House

> > 1/Lagna).However the atmakarak is a NON retrograde MArs,then should

> > the interpretation for desire of atma be taken as if Jupiter and

> > Mercury are also atmakarak other than Mars ?

> >

> > An atmakarak Jupietr would mean caring for family.

> > An atmakarak Mercury wouldmena trying to speak truth always.

> >

> > So is the atma desiring this or has the desire to do with someother

> > thing which would be related to these planets say knowledge for

> > Jupiter ?

> >

> > Regards

> > Suchitra

> > , "gilimary alvey"

> > <lopamudraxxx@h...> wrote:

> > > Dear Vishwanathan,

> > > Yes. That is how I understood it too. Thanks for explaining it

> > so well to

> > > us all.

> > > Love,

> > > Gili

> > >

> > > >"vishwanatham" <vishwanatham@r...>

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >[sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: retro planets/past life

> > > >Mon, 25 Oct 2004 05:42:41 -0000

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >Hare Rama Krishna

> > > >

> > > >Dear Gili & others,

> > > >

> > > >It has been said by Guruji & others, like Visti, that Retro

> > planets

> > > >are more like the Nodes.

> > > >

> > > >The path of Sun & Moon is followed by planets when they are in

> > > >forward motion.

> > > >

> > > >This also explains why Rahu & Ketu in Vedic astrology are

>*always*

> > > >retro.

> > > >

> > > >While Ketu points to moksha, it is implied that the birth occured

> > > >because moksha did not take place. It is understandable to most

> > that

> > > >Rahu is a karmic planet.

> > > >

> > > >So it is retro planets, which act like Rahu. It is unfulfilled

> > > >desires, which carry us from one life to another.. it is Rahu

> > giving

> > > >us a new birth (Varaha avatara resurrecting the earth, symbolises

> > > >rebirth), which is always opposing Ketu sitting in the 7th house.

> > > >

> > > >The logic for rebirth, pointing to the retro planets (apart from

> > > >Rahu), is clear i think.

> > > >

> > > >This is only my loud thinking.

> > > >

> > > >Thanks & regards

> > > >viswanadham

> > > >, "gilimary alvey"

> > > ><lopamudraxxx@h...> wrote:

> > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > I heard Sanjay say once that retro planets are strong desires

> > from

> > > >past

> > > > > life. Perhaps we should check with him.

> > > > > Love,

> > > > > Gili

> > > > >

> > > > > >"Ramapriya D" <hubli@h...>

> > > > > >

> > > > > ><>

> > > > > >Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] Re:

> > > >Achyuta

> > > > > >Gurukul] Retrograde exalted saturn in 6th House

> > > > > >Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:04:06 +0400

> > > > > >

> > > > > >Hi there Pratibha,

> > > > > >

> > > > > >I've heard that too. Kind of adds up, isn't it? Karmic

>desires

> > > >might stem

> > > > > >from what price there is yet unpaid, which can mean those

>that

> > > >curses

> > > > > >bestow. Honestly, this curse-karma-rebirth road is one I

>don't

> > > >much travel

> > > > > >on

> > > > > >

> > > > > >Cheers,

> > > > > >

> > > > > >Ramapriya

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > Orchid

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sunday, October 24, 2004 7:10 AM

> > > > > > Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul]

> > Re:

> > > >Achyuta

> > > > > >Gurukul] Retrograde exalted saturn in 6th House

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ramapriya,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sorry to jump in, but in your reply you said that Retro

> > planets

> > > >indicate

> > > > > >curses of a past life. Could you elaborate on that. I

>remember

> > > >reading that

> > > > > >retro means, that this rebirth is due to a storng desire

>from

> > a

> > > >past life,

> > > > > >or does that apply only to a retro AK?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Would appreciate your comments.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > Pratibha

> > > > >

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[Guest guest]

Gili,

Just saw your chart, and this intriguing thing about the time zone being +1 east

of GMT but the longitude being 2W! Daylight saving and all that?

Also try the dwisaptati sama dasa results for a better understanding of thy chart

Cheers,

Ramapriya

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gilimary alvey

 

Tuesday, October 26, 2004 8:42 PM

RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] retro planets/past life - Visti and all

Dear Visti,In my case 5L Mercury is in Lagna Aquarius. Did Saturn cause the

delay? Jupiter is also aspected by Saturn from 4H.Jupiter is lord of 2H (2H is

associated with past lives and the potential we bring from them - yes?and

11H.Thanks for helping us undestand all this.Love,Gili