[SJC: Achyuta Gurukul] retro planets/past life

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Hello Viswanatham,

 

I want to clarify myself from whatever I understood from your

explanation.

Suppose a person has retrograde Jupiter(house 5) and Mercury(House

1/Lagna).However the atmakarak is a NON retrograde MArs,then should

the interpretation for desire of atma be taken as if Jupiter and

Mercury are also atmakarak other than Mars ?

 

An atmakarak Jupietr would mean caring for family.

An atmakarak Mercury wouldmena trying to speak truth always.

 

So is the atma desiring this or has the desire to do with someother

thing which would be related to these planets say knowledge for

Jupiter ?

 

Regards

Suchitra

, "gilimary alvey"

<lopamudraxxx@h...> wrote:

> Dear Vishwanathan,

> Yes. That is how I understood it too. Thanks for explaining it

so well to

> us all.

> Love,

> Gili

>

> >"vishwanatham" <vishwanatham@r...>

> >

> >

> >[sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: retro planets/past life

> >Mon, 25 Oct 2004 05:42:41 -0000

> >

> >

> >Hare Rama Krishna

> >

> >Dear Gili & others,

> >

> >It has been said by Guruji & others, like Visti, that Retro

planets

> >are more like the Nodes.

> >

> >The path of Sun & Moon is followed by planets when they are in

> >forward motion.

> >

> >This also explains why Rahu & Ketu in Vedic astrology are *always*

> >retro.

> >

> >While Ketu points to moksha, it is implied that the birth occured

> >because moksha did not take place. It is understandable to most

that

> >Rahu is a karmic planet.

> >

> >So it is retro planets, which act like Rahu. It is unfulfilled

> >desires, which carry us from one life to another.. it is Rahu

giving

> >us a new birth (Varaha avatara resurrecting the earth, symbolises

> >rebirth), which is always opposing Ketu sitting in the 7th house.

> >

> >The logic for rebirth, pointing to the retro planets (apart from

> >Rahu), is clear i think.

> >

> >This is only my loud thinking.

> >

> >Thanks & regards

> >viswanadham

> >, "gilimary alvey"

> ><lopamudraxxx@h...> wrote:

> > > Dear All,

> > > I heard Sanjay say once that retro planets are strong desires

from

> >past

> > > life. Perhaps we should check with him.

> > > Love,

> > > Gili

> > >

> > > >"Ramapriya D" <hubli@h...>

> > > >

> > > ><>

> > > >Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] Re:

> >Achyuta

> > > >Gurukul] Retrograde exalted saturn in 6th House

> > > >Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:04:06 +0400

> > > >

> > > >Hi there Pratibha,

> > > >

> > > >I've heard that too. Kind of adds up, isn't it? Karmic desires

> >might stem

> > > >from what price there is yet unpaid, which can mean those that

> >curses

> > > >bestow. Honestly, this curse-karma-rebirth road is one I don't

> >much travel

> > > >on

> > > >

> > > >Cheers,

> > > >

> > > >Ramapriya

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > Orchid

> > > >

> > > > Sunday, October 24, 2004 7:10 AM

> > > > Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul]

Re:

> >Achyuta

> > > >Gurukul] Retrograde exalted saturn in 6th House

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ramapriya,

> > > >

> > > > Sorry to jump in, but in your reply you said that Retro

planets

> >indicate

> > > >curses of a past life. Could you elaborate on that. I remember

> >reading that

> > > >retro means, that this rebirth is due to a storng desire from

a

> >past life,

> > > >or does that apply only to a retro AK?

> > > >

> > > > Would appreciate your comments.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > Pratibha

> > >

> > >

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Namaste viswanatham garu,

 

Will the chara karakatwa of the retro-planet indicate the purpose of the rebirth?

 

Just a thought.

 

Regards,

Lakshmivishwanatham <vishwanatham (AT) rocketmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Hare Rama KrishnaDear Kankan,We are all here, because of some unfulfilled

desires. Malefic, retro planets show some strong desires from past birth

(s).Also, please read my mail before this.regardsviswanadham--- In

, "kankan_73" <kankan_73> wrote:> > > Dear

Sir,> > If a persons Lagna Lord and 5th Lord is retrograde, can we say that >

this person has not completed his desired in the last birth and then > taken

this birth to complete the same.> > Regards,> > > --- In

, "vishwanatham" > <vishwanatham@r...> wrote:> > >

> Hare Rama Krishna> > > > Dear Gili & others,> > > > It has been said by

Guruji

& others, like Visti, that Retro planets > > are more like the Nodes.> > > > The

path of Sun & Moon is followed by planets when they are in > > forward motion.>

> > > This also explains why Rahu & Ketu in Vedic astrology are *always* > >

retro.> > > > While Ketu points to moksha, it is implied that the birth occured

> > because moksha did not take place. It is understandable to most > that > >

Rahu is a karmic planet.> > > > So it is retro planets, which act like Rahu. It

is unfulfilled > > desires, which carry us from one life to another.. it is Rahu

> giving > > us a new birth (Varaha avatara resurrecting the earth, symbolises >

> rebirth), which is always opposing Ketu sitting in the 7th house.> > > > The

logic for rebirth, pointing to the retro planets (apart from

> > Rahu), is clear i think.> > > > This is only my loud thinking. > > > >

Thanks & regards> > viswanadham> > ,

"gilimary alvey" > > <lopamudraxxx@h...> wrote:> > > Dear All,> > > I heard

Sanjay say once that retro planets are strong desires > from > > past > > >

life. Perhaps we should check with him.> > > Love,> > > Gili> > > > > > >

"Ramapriya D" <hubli@h...>> > > >> > >

><>> > > >Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul]

Re: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: > > Achyuta > > > >Gurukul] Retrograde exalted saturn

in 6th House> > > >Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:04:06 +0400> > >

>> > > >Hi there Pratibha,> > > >> > > >I've heard that too. Kind of adds up,

isn't it? Karmic desires > > might stem > > > >from what price there is yet

unpaid, which can mean those that > > curses > > > >bestow. Honestly, this

curse-karma-rebirth road is one I don't > > much travel > > > >on > > > >> >

> >Cheers,> > > >> > > >Ramapriya> > > >> > > > ->

> > > Orchid> > > > > > > > Sent:

Sunday, October 24, 2004 7:10 AM> > > > Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul]

Re: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: > > Achyuta > > > >Gurukul] Retrograde exalted saturn

in 6th House> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Ramapriya,> > > >> > > > Sorry to

jump in, but in your reply you said that Retro > planets > > indicate > > >

>curses of a past life. Could you elaborate on that. I remember > > reading

that > > > >retro means, that this rebirth is due to a storng desire from a > >

past life, > > > >or does that apply only to a retro AK?> > > >> > > > Would

appreciate your comments.> > > >> > > > Thanks,> > > > Pratibha> > > > > >

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Dear Lakshmi and list members,

 

 

Please elaborate on the concept of five fold debts (deva rin, rishi rin,

pitririn, nri rin, and bhuta rin) as seen in chart ie Rin bandhan.

 

Do we analyse relationships beetween charakaraks/placements of naisargika

karakatwa/involvement of curses/retrograde planets etc to get a complete

picture

Wouldnt we also look at d charts to understand the why the birth took place into

a particular kull,........etc

 

Can i request a example chart be taken up to elaborate on this.....maybe step by step

 

Birth date 5th feb 1969 ranchi,

 

 

Regards

 

Nisha

 

 

 

 

-

lakshmi ramesh

 

Tuesday, October 26, 2004 8:06 PM

Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: retro planets/past life

Om Gurave Namah

 

Namaste viswanatham garu,

 

Will the chara karakatwa of the retro-planet indicate the purpose of the rebirth?

 

Just a thought.

 

Regards,

Lakshmivishwanatham <vishwanatham (AT) rocketmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Hare Rama KrishnaDear Kankan,We are all here, because of some unfulfilled

desires. Malefic, retro planets show some strong desires from past birth

(s).Also, please read my mail before this.regardsviswanadham--- In

, "kankan_73" <kankan_73> wrote:> > > Dear

Sir,> > If a persons Lagna Lord and 5th Lord is retrograde, can we say that >

this person has not completed his desired in the last birth and then > taken

this birth to complete the same.> > Regards,> > > --- In

, "vishwanatham" > <vishwanatham@r...> wrote:> > >

> Hare Rama Krishna> > > > Dear Gili & others,> > > > It has been said by

Guruji & others, like Visti, that Retro planets > > are more like the Nodes.> >

> > The path of Sun & Moon is followed by planets when they are in > > forward

motion.> > > > This also explains why Rahu & Ketu in Vedic astrology are

*always* > > retro.> > > > While Ketu points to moksha, it is implied that the

birth occured > > because moksha did not take place. It is understandable to

most > that > > Rahu is a karmic planet.> > > > So it is retro planets, which

act like Rahu. It is unfulfilled > > desires, which carry us from one life to

another.. it is Rahu > giving > > us a new birth (Varaha avatara resurrecting

the earth, symbolises > > rebirth), which is always opposing Ketu sitting in

the 7th house.> > > > The logic for rebirth, pointing to the retro planets

(apart from > > Rahu), is clear i think.> > > > This is only my loud thinking.

> > > > Thanks & regards> > viswanadham> > ,

"gilimary alvey" > > <lopamudraxxx@h...> wrote:> > > Dear All,> > > I heard

Sanjay say once that retro planets are strong desires > from > > past > > >

life. Perhaps we should check with him.> > > Love,> > > Gili> > > > > > >

"Ramapriya D" <hubli@h...>> > > >> > >

><>> > > >Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul]

Re: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: > > Achyuta > > > >Gurukul] Retrograde exalted saturn

in 6th House> > > >Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:04:06 +0400> > > >> > > >Hi there

Pratibha,> > > >> > > >I've heard that too. Kind of adds up, isn't it? Karmic

desires > > might stem > > > >from what price there is yet unpaid, which can

mean those that > > curses > > > >bestow. Honestly, this curse-karma-rebirth

road is one I don't > > much travel > > > >on > > > >> > > >Cheers,> > > >>

> > >Ramapriya> > > >> > > > -> > > >

Orchid> > > > > > > > Sunday, October

24, 2004 7:10 AM> > > > Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta

Gurukul] Re: > > Achyuta > > > >Gurukul] Retrograde exalted saturn in 6th

House> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Ramapriya,> > > >> > > > Sorry to jump in,

but in your reply you said that Retro > planets > > indicate > > > >curses of a

past life. Could you elaborate on that. I remember > > reading that > > > >retro

means, that this rebirth is due to a storng desire from a > > past life, > > >

>or does that apply only to a retro AK?> > > >> > > > Would appreciate your

comments.> > > >> > > > Thanks,> > > > Pratibha> > > > > >

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