[SJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Saturn strong-Miserable, saturn weak-Miserable, when saturn is beneficial?

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20 October 2004 15:09

RE: [sJC: Achyuta

Gurukul] Saturn strong-Miserable, saturn weak-Miserable, when saturn is

beneficial?

12.0pt">

12.0pt">Respected Sir

12.0pt">You are so correct i have been suffering from an ailment which can not

be cured fully. Its related to spine SCOLIOSIS and was oprated twice

once for some problem related to nervous system but in spine. And you are

again correct that the doctors

can never entirely agree on the cure for the disease. Well is this problem going to be

with me for my entire life? And some astrologer told me that mercury has

given me health problem so i should wear EMRALD i have worn that. It has given

me more confidence in my speaking. Should i continue with it or remove it as

you have suggested me to wear RUBY. And one more thing i want to know

about marriage. Is Saturn aspecting 7th house is also responsible for the delay

in marriage or there is no marriage at all due to this

12.0pt">Thanks & regards

12.0pt">Jaspal

Visti Larsen

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Dear List,

Namaskar.

Visvanathan

was the one who got it right Badhakesh in Lagna is terrible for health, and

the main problem being that the doctors can never entirely agree on the cure

for the disease. The Lagna is also the birthplace, and badhakesh there can

cause the person to leave their birthplace, shortly after birth.

Now Im

not expert on medical science but Saturn tends to cause Vaata type disorders

(dryness, excessive air). As Saturn is in the 3rd Kauluka this will

show up internally and not externally.

Mars itself

is in the Bddhak Sthdna and heavily afflicted which can show a nervous disorder

possibly related to epilepsy.

Is any of

this accurate?

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20 October 2004 03:35

RE: [sJC: Achyuta

Gurukul] Saturn strong-Miserable, saturn weak-Miserable, when saturn is

beneficial?

12.0pt">

12.0pt">Respected Guru Ji Namaskaar

Thanks for the reply and the valueable suggestions. but i would like to

know more as how can a yagkarka planet in freindly sign gives a Bad health and

what type of bad health. Please being a learner i would like to know more

12.0pt">Thanks & Regards

12.0pt">Jaspal

Visti Larsen

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Dear Jaspal,

Namaskar.

Please move

your birthtime back to 11:39

PM.

You are good

in counseling, human relations and administration.

Focus on

those areas.

Please wear a

ruby, fast on Mondays and worship the Shiva Linga this will help your

career immensely, and will remedy your Saturn.

Best wishes,

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19 October 2004 17:26

RE: [sJC: Achyuta

Gurukul] Saturn strong-Miserable, saturn weak-Miserable, when saturn is

beneficial?

12.0pt">

12.0pt">Respected Guru ji Namaskar

12.0pt">I have done independent work as small scale business in flower making ,

then did business in partenrship in educational institute was very good but

dint get a single Rupee and left in 2002 after a hardwork of 5 years.... Now

want to do something differeent but dont know Everybody says i am good in

councelling.

12.0pt">Thanks

12.0pt">Jaspal

12.0pt">.

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Krsna|

Dear Jaspal,

Namaskar.

With the

given chart of yours, I see you in a profession of government service, with

military affiliations, however if I move the chart back by a few minutes I get

a person who has done a job with writing/communications/publications and more

independent work.

Please

confirm.

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19 October 2004 15:48

RE: [sJC: Achyuta

Gurukul] Saturn strong-Miserable, saturn weak-Miserable, when saturn is

beneficial?

12.0pt">

12.0pt">Respected Guru ji

12.0pt">Thanks for your reply. Yes sir i am suffering a health problem since my

childhood. But not setteled in career also. have changed many times Still

dont know which line i should choose. Can you help me in this regard

12.0pt">Thanks

12.0pt">Jaspal

Visti Larsen

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Krishna|

Dear Jaspal,

Namaskar.

Saturn in

Lagna in Taurus will cause serious health issues especially in childhood,

and force the family to move away from your birthplace. Is health a major

problem?

Libra

Ndrdyaka Dasa after 2000 would have caused a lot of problems at work and bad

name due to fights and battles.

Also a change

of residence is expected during 2000-2010.

Best wishes,

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19 October 2004 15:05

RE: [sJC: Achyuta

Gurukul] Saturn strong-Miserable, saturn weak-Miserable, when saturn is

beneficial?

12.0pt">

12.0pt">Respected Astrologers

12.0pt">I want to know more about this as what will be the effect of Saturn

placed in first house in Taurus lagan as it is Yog karka for the lagan. Is it

Auspisious or Inauspicious. as i have many confusion in this regard has shown

my horoscope to many astrologers each has different opinion. I hope i will get

my answers here and being a learner of astrology will get proper knowledge.

Birth Details are DOB 28th August 1971 Time 11:45Pm

Longitude 74E42'00 Latitude 29N58'00. And one mroe thing

i would like to know if possible wich planet has given me a major poblem as

someone says its saturn someone says other. I am really confused about this.

12.0pt">Regards

12.0pt">Jaspal

12.0pt">

Visti Larsen

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Krsna|

Dear List,

Namaskar.

Kalyan Verma

of Saravali specifically states that if Saturn is strong there will be more

sorrow, whilst if Saturn is weak there will be less.

Now what

confuses people is what is meant by strong. In that specific example,

Kalyan Verma is talking about the houses (gagana=sky or bha-chakra).

So now one

should know the strong houses:

l1 level1 lfo5">a) Saturn

being placed in a quadrant is inauspicious

l1 level1 lfo5">b) Saturn

being placed in debilitation is again very inauspicious

l1 level1 lfo5">c) Debilitated

Saturn in quadrants is auspicious, and can cause Rajya Yoga. However this Rajya

Yoga is caused at a specific cost.

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10.0pt">Hope this helps,

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19 October 2004 13:09

Re: [sJC: Achyuta

Gurukul] Saturn strong-Miserable, saturn weak-Miserable, when saturn is

beneficial?

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Dear Shri Jagannathanji,

I too would like to know more about Saturn. What

if Saturn is retro,

exalted and in the 6th House? Does it act as a

debilitated planet or

is it strong?

I have some personal experience about this.

I would also like to know whether the 3rd drishti

of Saturn

can "mutate" planets over time.

Shall be grateful for your comments.

Regards,

Vinita

, sumanth

krishna

<sanji_sumanth> wrote:

> Thanks for your reply

>

> my birth details.

> |DOB-12-03-1983

> time-03.42am

> place-Bangalore(india,karnataka)

>

> Sumanth

>

> kapisthalam jagannathan

<jagannathankr> wrote:

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> If you can kimdly mail your birth details we

may try to analyse and

see.

> Regards,

> jagannathan.

>

> sumanth krishna <sanji_sumanth>

wrote:

> Respected Astrologers,

>

> Many say that, a strong saturn in a natives

horoscope is also a

problem(give more miseries) and a weak saturn in a

natives horosocpe

also gives miseries and many say sasa yoga is also

painful why?

>

> As a learner of astrology, this has become a

unsolved puzzle for me

that when to say saturn is benefical.Does Saturn

proves benefical

when he is Yogakraka, and Lagnadhipathi(for

Capricorn lagna, Aquaris

lagna ) and is also powerfully placed both in

navamsa and rashi.

>

> My thinking is if the cause of Miseries is

strong then no quesiton

of problems(related to its karakatwa) in the

horosocpe.

>

> If my thinking is wrong, please astrologers

correct me

>

> Hope i get answer

>

> Sumanth

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October 20, 2004

Thanks a lot for all your advices. Hope all this will also help me in making my career.

And thanks for all your help and best wishes.

thanks & Regards

Jaspal Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote:

|Hare Rama Krishna|

Dear Jaspal, Namaskar

The reason I did not write out all my observations whilst looking at your chart,

was because I saw the problem affecting your marriage (Upapada), health,

profession etc, and I wanted to keep my answers short.

But I did give you the remedy for ALL of these things –

Fast on Mondays, because your Upapada (place of marriage) is in Cancer, and

hence you will get marriage quicker.

Wear a ruby, to bring Saturn out of Marana Karaka Sthäna, as the Käraka for lagna is the Sun.

Worship Shiva as Sun is in its own sign, and hence Sürya-worship will only give

temporary relief. This will also increase your status in society as Sun is lord

and joined Ärüòha Lagna.

If you do all these things, your health will no doubt start improving and the

doctors will start giving the right advice.

Now for some more advice.

Always go to the doctor on a Friday. Not on ANY OTHER DAY.

Avoid operations whilst the Sun is transiting; Libra, Aquarius or Gemini.

Perform these remedies, and surely you will see a change in your life for the better.

Best wishes,

Jaspal Kaur [jaspaljkaur ] 20 October 2004 15:09To:

Subject: RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Saturn

strong-Miserable, saturn weak-Miserable, when saturn is beneficial?

Respected Sir

You are so correct i have been suffering from an ailment which can not be cured

fully. Its related to spine SCOLIOSIS and was oprated twice once for some

problem related to nervous system but in spine. And you are again correct that

the doctors can never entirely agree on the cure for the disease. Well is this

problem going to be with me for my entire life? And some astrologer told me

that mercury has given me health problem so i should wear EMRALD i have worn

that. It has given me more confidence in my speaking. Should i continue with it

or remove it as you have suggested me to wear RUBY. And one more thing i want to

know about marriage. Is Saturn aspecting 7th house is also responsible for the

delay in marriage or there is no marriage at all due to this

Thanks & regards

Jaspal

Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote:

|Hare Rama Krsna|

Dear List, Namaskar.

Visvanathan was the one who got it right Badhakesh in Lagna is terrible for

health, and the main problem being that the doctors can never entirely agree on

the cure for the disease. The Lagna is also the birthplace, and badhakesh there

can cause the person to leave their birthplace, shortly after birth.

Now Im not expert on medical science but Saturn tends to cause Vaata type

disorders (dryness, excessive air). As Saturn is in the 3rd Kauluka this will

show up internally and not externally.

Mars itself is in the Bddhak Sthdna and heavily afflicted which can show a

nervous disorder possibly related to epilepsy.

Is any of this accurate?

Jaspal Kaur [jaspaljkaur ] 20 October 2004 03:35To:

Subject: RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Saturn

strong-Miserable, saturn weak-Miserable, when saturn is beneficial?

Respected Guru Ji NamaskaarThanks for the reply and the valueable suggestions.

but i would like to know more as how can a yagkarka planet in freindly sign

gives a Bad health and what type of bad health. Please being a learner i would

like to know more

Thanks & Regards

JaspalVisti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote:

|Hare Rama Krsna|

Dear Jaspal, Namaskar.

Please move your birthtime back to 11:39 PM.

You are good in counseling, human relations and administration.

Focus on those areas.

Please wear a ruby, fast on Mondays and worship the Shiva Linga this will help

your career immensely, and will remedy your Saturn.

Best wishes,

Jaspal Kaur [jaspaljkaur ] 19 October 2004 17:26To:

Subject: RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Saturn

strong-Miserable, saturn weak-Miserable, when saturn is beneficial?

Respected Guru ji Namaskar

I have done independent work as small scale business in flower making , then did

business in partenrship in educational institute was very good but dint get a

single Rupee and left in 2002 after a hardwork of 5 years.... Now want to do

something differeent but dont know Everybody says i am good in councelling.

Thanks

Jaspal

..Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote:

|Hare Rama Krsna|

Dear Jaspal, Namaskar.

With the given chart of yours, I see you in a profession of government service,

with military affiliations, however if I move the chart back by a few minutes I

get a person who has done a job with writing/communications/publications and

more independent work.

Please confirm.

Jaspal Kaur [jaspaljkaur ] 19 October 2004 15:48To:

Subject: RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Saturn

strong-Miserable, saturn weak-Miserable, when saturn is beneficial?

Respected Guru ji

Thanks for your reply. Yes sir i am suffering a health problem since my

childhood. But not setteled in career also. have changed many times Still dont

know which line i should choose. Can you help me in this regard

Thanks

JaspalVisti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote:

|Hare Rama Krishna|

Dear Jaspal, Namaskar.

Saturn in Lagna in Taurus will cause serious health issues especially in

childhood, and force the family to move away from your birthplace. Is health a

major problem?

Libra Ndrdyaka Dasa after 2000 would have caused a lot of problems at work and

bad name due to fights and battles.

Also a change of residence is expected during 2000-2010.

Best wishes,

Jaspal Kaur [jaspaljkaur ] 19 October 2004 15:05To:

Subject: RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Saturn

strong-Miserable, saturn weak-Miserable, when saturn is beneficial?

Respected Astrologers

I want to know more about this as what will be the effect of Saturn placed in

first house in Taurus lagan as it is Yog karka for the lagan. Is it Auspisious

or Inauspicious. as i have many confusion in this regard has shown my horoscope

to many astrologers each has different opinion. I hope i will get my answers

here and being a learner of astrology will get proper knowledge. Birth Details

are DOB 28th August 1971 Time 11:45Pm Longitude 74E42'00 Latitude

29N58'00. And one mroe thing i would like to know if possible wich planet has

given me a major poblem

as someone says its saturn someone says other. I am really confused about this.

Regards

Jaspal

Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote:

|Hare Rama Krsna|

Dear List, Namaskar.

Kalyan Verma of Saravali specifically states that if Saturn is strong there will

be more sorrow, whilst if Saturn is weak there will be less.

Now what confuses people is what is meant by strong. In that specific example,

Kalyan Verma is talking about the houses (gagana=sky or bha-chakra).

So now one should know the strong houses:

a) Saturn being placed in a quadrant is inauspicious

b) Saturn being placed in debilitation is again very inauspicious

c) Debilitated Saturn in quadrants is auspicious, and can cause Rajya Yoga.

However this Rajya Yoga is caused at a specific cost.

Hope this helps,

shankar_mamta [vinita (AT) ub (DOT) nic.in] 19 October 2004 13:09To:

Subject: Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Saturn

strong-Miserable, saturn weak-Miserable, when saturn is beneficial?

Dear Shri Jagannathanji,I too would like to know more about Saturn. What if

Saturn is retro, exalted and in the 6th House? Does it act as a debilitated

planet or is it strong?I have some personal experience about this.I would also

like to know whether the 3rd drishti of Saturn can "mutate" planets over time.

Shall be grateful for your comments.Regards,Vinita--- In

, sumanth krishna <sanji_sumanth> wrote:>

Thanks for your reply> > my birth details.> |DOB-12-03-1983> time-03.42am>

place-Bangalore(india,karnataka)> > Sumanth> > kapisthalam jagannathan

<jagannathankr> wrote:> Dear Sir,> If you can kimdly mail your birth

details we may try to analyse and see.> Regards,> jagannathan.> > sumanth

krishna <sanji_sumanth>

wrote:> Respected Astrologers,> > Many say that, a strong saturn in a natives

horoscope is also a problem(give more miseries) and a weak saturn in a natives

horosocpe also gives miseries and many say sasa yoga is also painful why?> >

As a learner of astrology, this has become a unsolved puzzle for me that when

to say saturn is benefical.Does Saturn proves benefical when he is Yogakraka,

and Lagnadhipathi(for Capricorn lagna, Aquaris lagna ) and is also powerfully

placed both in navamsa and

rashi.> > My thinking is if the cause of Miseries is strong then no quesiton of

problems(related to its karakatwa) in the horosocpe.> > If my thinking is

wrong, please astrologers correct me> > Hope i get answer> > Sumanth> > >

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Dear Jaspal,

Namaskar.

Yes it will

help your career no doubt – good luck and may Shiva bless you.

Best wishes,

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20 October 2004 15:32

RE: [sJC: Achyuta

Gurukul] Saturn strong-Miserable, saturn weak-Miserable, when saturn is

beneficial?

12.0pt">

12.0pt">Respected Sir

12.0pt">Thanks a lot for all your advices. Hope all this will also help me in

making my career.

12.0pt">And thanks for all your help and best wishes.

12.0pt">thanks & Regards

12.0pt">Jaspal

Visti Larsen

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margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">

|Hare Rama

Krishna|

Dear Jaspal,

Namaskar

The reason I

did not write out all my observations whilst looking at your chart, was because

I saw the problem affecting your marriage (Upapada), health, profession etc,

and I wanted to keep my answers short.

But I did

give you the remedy for ALL

of these things

font-family:"URW Palladio IT"">Fast on Mondays, because your Upapada

(place of marriage) is in Cancer, and hence you will get marriage quicker.

font-family:"URW Palladio IT"">Wear a ruby, to bring Saturn out of Marana

Karaka Sthdna, as the Kdraka for lagna is the Sun.

font-family:"URW Palladio IT"">Worship Shiva as Sun is in its own sign,

and hence S|rya-worship will only give temporary relief. This will also

increase your status in society as Sun is lord and joined Dr|rha Lagna.

If you do all

these things, your health will no doubt start improving and the doctors will

start giving the right advice.

Now for some

more advice.

font-family:"URW Palladio IT"">Always go to the doctor on a Friday. Not on

ANY OTHER DAY.

font-family:"URW Palladio IT"">Avoid operations whilst the Sun is

transiting; Libra, Aquarius or Gemini.

Perform these

remedies, and surely you will see a change in your life for the better.

Best wishes,

bold">Visti Larsen

color:#4E81C4">

font-family:Verdana;color:#4E81C4">

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[jaspaljkaur ]

20 October 2004 15:09

RE: [sJC: Achyuta

Gurukul] Saturn strong-Miserable, saturn weak-Miserable, when saturn is

beneficial?

12.0pt">

12.0pt">Respected Sir

12.0pt">You are so correct i have been suffering from an ailment which can not

be cured fully. Its related to spine SCOLIOSIS and was oprated twice

once for some problem related to nervous system but in spine. And you are

again correct that the doctors

can never entirely agree on the cure for the disease. Well is this problem going to be

with me for my entire life? And some astrologer told me that mercury has

given me health problem so i should wear EMRALD i have worn that. It has given

me more confidence in my speaking. Should i continue with it or remove it as

you have suggested me to wear RUBY. And one more thing i want to know

about marriage. Is Saturn aspecting 7th house is also responsible for the delay

in marriage or there is no marriage at all due to this

12.0pt">Thanks & regards

12.0pt">Jaspal

Visti Larsen

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|Hare Rama

Krsna|

Dear List,

Namaskar.

Visvanathan

was the one who got it right Badhakesh in Lagna is terrible for health,

and the main problem being that the doctors can never entirely agree on the

cure for the disease. The Lagna is also the birthplace, and badhakesh there can

cause the person to leave their birthplace, shortly after birth.

Now Im

not expert on medical science but Saturn tends to cause Vaata type disorders

(dryness, excessive air). As Saturn is in the 3rd Kauluka this will

show up internally and not externally.

Mars itself

is in the Bddhak Sthdna and heavily afflicted which can show a nervous disorder

possibly related to epilepsy.

Is any of

this accurate?

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20 October 2004 03:35

RE: [sJC: Achyuta

Gurukul] Saturn strong-Miserable, saturn weak-Miserable, when saturn is

beneficial?

12.0pt">

12.0pt">Respected Guru Ji Namaskaar

Thanks for the reply and the valueable suggestions. but i would like to

know more as how can a yagkarka planet in freindly sign gives a Bad health and

what type of bad health. Please being a learner i would like to know more

12.0pt">Thanks & Regards

12.0pt">Jaspal

Visti Larsen

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|Hare Rama

Krsna|

Dear Jaspal,

Namaskar.

Please move

your birthtime back to 11:39

PM.

You are good

in counseling, human relations and administration.

Focus on

those areas.

Please wear a

ruby, fast on Mondays and worship the Shiva Linga this will help your

career immensely, and will remedy your Saturn.

Best wishes,

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19 October 2004 17:26

RE: [sJC: Achyuta

Gurukul] Saturn strong-Miserable, saturn weak-Miserable, when saturn is

beneficial?

12.0pt">

12.0pt">Respected Guru ji Namaskar

12.0pt">I have done independent work as small scale business in flower making ,

then did business in partenrship in educational institute was very good but

dint get a single Rupee and left in 2002 after a hardwork of 5 years.... Now

want to do something differeent but dont know Everybody says i am good in

councelling.

12.0pt">Thanks

12.0pt">Jaspal

12.0pt">.

Visti Larsen

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|Hare Rama

Krsna|

Dear Jaspal,

Namaskar.

With the

given chart of yours, I see you in a profession of government service, with

military affiliations, however if I move the chart back by a few minutes I get

a person who has done a job with writing/communications/publications and more

independent work.

Please

confirm.

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19 October 2004 15:48

RE: [sJC: Achyuta

Gurukul] Saturn strong-Miserable, saturn weak-Miserable, when saturn is

beneficial?

12.0pt">

12.0pt">Respected Guru ji

12.0pt">Thanks for your reply. Yes sir i am suffering a health problem since my

childhood. But not setteled in career also. have changed many times Still

dont know which line i should choose. Can you help me in this regard

12.0pt">Thanks

12.0pt">Jaspal

Visti Larsen

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|Hare Rama

Krishna|

Dear Jaspal,

Namaskar.

Saturn in

Lagna in Taurus will cause serious health issues especially in childhood,

and force the family to move away from your birthplace. Is health a major

problem?

Libra

Ndrdyaka Dasa after 2000 would have caused a lot of problems at work and bad

name due to fights and battles.

Also a change

of residence is expected during 2000-2010.

Best wishes,

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19 October 2004 15:05

RE: [sJC: Achyuta

Gurukul] Saturn strong-Miserable, saturn weak-Miserable, when saturn is

beneficial?

12.0pt">

12.0pt">Respected Astrologers

12.0pt">I want to know more about this as what will be the effect of Saturn

placed in first house in Taurus lagan as it is Yog karka for the lagan. Is it

Auspisious or Inauspicious. as i have many confusion in this regard has shown

my horoscope to many astrologers each has different opinion. I hope i will get

my answers here and being a learner of astrology will get proper knowledge.

Birth Details are DOB 28th August 1971 Time 11:45Pm

Longitude 74E42'00 Latitude 29N58'00. And one mroe

thing i would like to know if possible wich planet has given me a major poblem

as someone says its saturn someone says other. I am really confused about this.

12.0pt">Regards

12.0pt">Jaspal

12.0pt">

Visti Larsen

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|Hare Rama

Krsna|

Dear List,

Namaskar.

Kalyan Verma

of Saravali specifically states that if Saturn is strong there will be more

sorrow, whilst if Saturn is weak there will be less.

Now what

confuses people is what is meant by strong. In that specific example,

Kalyan Verma is talking about the houses (gagana=sky or bha-chakra).

So now one

should know the strong houses:

l0 level1 lfo4">a)

Saturn being placed in a quadrant

is inauspicious

l0 level1 lfo4">b)

Saturn being placed in

debilitation is again very inauspicious

l0 level1 lfo4">c)

Debilitated Saturn in quadrants is

auspicious, and can cause Rajya Yoga. However this Rajya Yoga is caused at a

specific cost.

10.0pt">

10.0pt">Hope this helps,

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19 October 2004 13:09

Re: [sJC: Achyuta

Gurukul] Saturn strong-Miserable, saturn weak-Miserable, when saturn is

beneficial?

12.0pt">

Dear Shri Jagannathanji,

I too would like to know more about Saturn. What

if Saturn is retro,

exalted and in the 6th House? Does it act as a

debilitated planet or

is it strong?

I have some personal experience about this.

I would also like to know whether the 3rd drishti

of Saturn

can "mutate" planets over time.

Shall be grateful for your comments.

Regards,

Vinita

, sumanth

krishna

<sanji_sumanth> wrote:

> Thanks for your reply

>

> my birth details.

> |DOB-12-03-1983

> time-03.42am

> place-Bangalore(india,karnataka)

>

> Sumanth

>

> kapisthalam jagannathan

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> sumanth krishna <sanji_sumanth>

wrote:

> Respected Astrologers,

>

> Many say that, a strong saturn in a natives

horoscope is also a

problem(give more miseries) and a weak saturn in a

natives horosocpe

also gives miseries and many say sasa yoga is also

painful why?

>

> As a learner of astrology, this has become a

unsolved puzzle for me

that when to say saturn is benefical.Does Saturn

proves benefical

when he is Yogakraka, and Lagnadhipathi(for

Capricorn lagna, Aquaris

lagna ) and is also powerfully placed both in

navamsa and rashi.

>

> My thinking is if the cause of Miseries is

strong then no quesiton

of problems(related to its karakatwa) in the

horosocpe.

>

> If my thinking is wrong, please astrologers

correct me

>

> Hope i get answer

>

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Dear Sir,

I am happy to see your kind mail.

saturn is all alone in the sixth house without planets on either side to himself

or in his seventh house.This is an undesirable placement of saturn.This

indicates much toil with less income.Eventhough saturn is exalted his aspect

will be malefic only.Lagna lord who is venus is in the third house with the

third lord Moon in own sign indicatind ear as the body part.saturns aspect will

cause ear trouble suring venus dasa and saturn bhukthi.This period is between

17-4-1990 and 17-6-1993.both venus and Moon are watery in tatwam and hence they

togather would have caused oozing of watery waste from the ear.As Venus is in

the next house to Sun the father of the native may be intersted in fine arts

such as misic etc.there is Kuja dosham for this chart and therefore due to

saturns aspect it would have aggravated matrimonial matters accutely.The

possibility is that during Mars dasa some animal attacked the native and caused

injuries .There may be some physical or bodily defect

to the native in the foot .The reason is that Dhanus is the sign involved on the

eigth house.Had there been a grand parent who was alive it would have caused

danger to that grand parent in 1996/97.or at the age of wight or nineteen

thirty twoThis is because Rahu is seated in Dhanus with Mars..It is likely that

after the age of thirty three onwards saturn would have started to yield

favourable results due to his exaltation.The age works out to 3-7-1984

onwards.After seeing your kind reply let us proceed further with analysis if

need be.Retrogrde Saturn yields results of pertaing to actions perpetrated in

the past life.At the age of thirty the native might have given up his existing

job and he might have sought another job when Jupiter was in Kanya rasi.

Regards,

jagannathan.shankar_mamta <vinita (AT) ub (DOT) nic.in> wrote:

Dear Shri Jagannathanji,Sorry, I was expecting mental gymnastics by saying

Saturn exalted in 6th House which has to be Libra and the third dristi has to

be on Saggitarius. This is a Taurus Lagna native, of course!(DOB 3rd July 1954,

2.43 a.m., Lucknow)Shall be grateful for your response, SirVinita--- In

, kapisthalam jagannathan wrote:> Dear Sir,> Each

position very much depends on the chart in question.Therefore let me kindly

know the chart concerned Retrograde saturn gives a tendency to give up job

frequently.Secondly saturn tends to give the results of kanya and the planets

situated therein.Suppose Saturn is in Scorpio for a cancer lagnam and aspects

Capricorn,as he aspects his own sign from an auspicious sign with his third

house drishti,

saturn will give auspicious results only .The results will be more auspicious

than when saturn aspects capricorn from cancer with his seventh house

drishti..Is it not so.?> Regards,> jagannathan.> shankar_mamta wrote:> > > Dear

Shri Jagannathanji,> > I too would like to know more about Saturn. What if

Saturn is retro, > exalted and in the 6th House? Does it act as a debilitated

planet or > is it strong?> > I have some personal experience about this.> > I

would also like to know whether the 3rd drishti of Saturn > can "mutate"

planets over time. > > Shall be grateful for your comments.> > Regards,> >

Vinita> > > > , sumanth krishna > wrote:> >

Thanks for your reply> > > > my birth details.> >

|DOB-12-03-1983> > time-03.42am> > place-Bangalore(india,karnataka)> > > >

Sumanth> > > > kapisthalam jagannathan wrote:> > Dear Sir,> > If you can kimdly

mail your birth details we may try to analyse and > see.> > Regards,> >

jagannathan.> > > > sumanth krishna wrote:> > Respected Astrologers,> > > >

Many say that, a strong saturn in a natives horoscope is also a > problem(give

more miseries) and a weak saturn in a natives horosocpe > also gives miseries

and many say sasa yoga is also painful why?> > > > As a learner of astrology,

this has become a unsolved puzzle for me > that when to say saturn is

benefical.Does Saturn proves benefical > when he is Yogakraka, and

Lagnadhipathi(for Capricorn lagna, Aquaris > lagna ) and is also powerfully

placed both in

navamsa and rashi.> > > > My thinking is if the cause of Miseries is strong then

no quesiton > of problems(related to its karakatwa) in the horosocpe.> > > > If

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, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

> |Hare Rama Krsna|

>

> Dear Kishi, Namaskar

Well I think ,

Saturn placed in Quadrant and strong having any link with Lagna makes

it powerful ...

Look at jayalalita's horoscope

Aries Lagna .. saturn placed in Lagna (Dispositor lagna lord Mars

exalted )..

Amitabh ,

Saturn in Tauras (freindly sign) placed in 4th quadrant giving a

special aspect to lagna also AL is in 4th house ... and saturn has

highest shadbala ...

Ofcourse supporting Planets matter a lot .. but it gives some success

in it's dasa .. it may not be so strong in some cases ...

there are many other cases ...

This is my perception however I might b wrong

>

> Yes you are right. Saturn is good for Räjya Yoga if in the 1st or

10th

> houses AND in CANCER.

>

> So this rule only applies to Libra or Cancer Lagna's.

>

> Just to name a few;

>

> Indira Gandhi, George W. Bush, Sonia Gandhi, Adolph Hitler, Al Gore

(however

> its joined a debilitated Saturn, causing Rajbhanga), Bill Clinton,

Manmohan

> Singh and many more.

>

> Problem is that instead of hurting the native, it ends up hurting

others and

> conferring Räjya yoga on the native – i.e. a dethrownment must

occur.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Visti Larsen

> <visti@s...> visti@s...

>

_____

>

> kishi_1 [kishi_1]

> 20 October 2004 00:27

>

> Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Saturn strong-Miserable, saturn

> weak-Miserable, when saturn is beneficial?

>

> hi ,

>

> SAturn in Quadrant is not always inauspicious .

>

> Person having Strong Saturn in Lagna for cancer accendant gives

Raja

> Yoga . Also I think in Amitabh bacchan Horoscope Saturn is in

> quadrant in Gemini .. And his Saturn dasa was excellent ...

>

> Pls Correct me if i m wrong .

>

> --Kishi

>

> , Jaspal Kaur <jaspaljkaur>

> wrote:

> > Respected Guru ji Namaskar

> > I have done independent work as small scale business in flower

> making , then did business in partenrship in educational institute

> was very good but dint get a single Rupee and left in 2002 after a

> hardwork of 5 years.... Now want to do something differeent but

dont

> know Everybody says i am good in councelling.

> > Thanks

> > Jaspal

> > .

> > Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:

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> > |Hare Rama Krsna|

> >

> > Dear Jaspal, Namaskar.

> >

> > With the given chart of yours, I see you in a profession of

> government service, with military affiliations, however if I move

the

> chart back by a few minutes I get a person who has done a job with

> writing/communications/publications and more independent work.

> >

> > Please confirm.

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> > visti@s...

> >

> > Jaspal Kaur [jaspaljkaur]

> > 19 October 2004 15:48

> >

> > RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Saturn strong-Miserable,

saturn

> weak-Miserable, when saturn is beneficial?

> >

> > Respected Guru ji

> >

> > Thanks for your reply. Yes sir i am suffering a health problem

> since my childhood. But not setteled in career also. have changed

> many times Still dont know which line i should choose. Can you

help

> me in this regard

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Jaspal

> > Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:

> >

> > |Hare Rama Krishna|

> >

> > Dear Jaspal, Namaskar.

> >

> > Saturn in Lagna in Taurus will cause serious health issues

> especially in childhood, and force the family to move away from

your

> birthplace. Is health a major problem?

> >

> > Libra Ndrdyaka Dasa after 2000 would have caused a lot of

problems

> at work and bad name due to fights and battles.

> >

> > Also a change of residence is expected during 2000-2010.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> > visti@s...

> >

> > Jaspal Kaur [jaspaljkaur]

> > 19 October 2004 15:05

> >

> > RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Saturn strong-Miserable,

saturn

> weak-Miserable, when saturn is beneficial?

> >

> > Respected Astrologers

> >

> > I want to know more about this as what will be the effect of

Saturn

> placed in first house in Taurus lagan as it is Yog karka for the

> lagan. Is it Auspisious or Inauspicious. as i have many confusion

in

> this regard has shown my horoscope to many astrologers each has

> different opinion. I hope i will get my answers here and being a

> learner of astrology will get proper knowledge. Birth Details are

> DOB 28th August 1971 Time 11:45Pm Longitude 74E42'00 Latitude

> 29N58'00. And one mroe thing i would like to know if possible wich

> planet has given me a major poblem as someone says its saturn

someone

> says other. I am really confused about this.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Jaspal

> >

> > Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:

> >

> > |Hare Rama Krsna|

> >

> > Dear List, Namaskar.

> >

> > Kalyan Verma of Saravali specifically states that if Saturn is

> strong there will be more sorrow, whilst if Saturn is weak there

will

> be less.

> >

> > Now what confuses people is what is meant by strong. In that

> specific example, Kalyan Verma is talking about the houses

> (gagana=sky or bha-chakra).

> >

> > So now one should know the strong houses:

> >

> > a) Saturn being placed in a quadrant is inauspicious

> >

> > b) Saturn being placed in debilitation is again very

> inauspicious

> >

> > c) Debilitated Saturn in quadrants is auspicious, and can

> cause Rajya Yoga. However this Rajya Yoga is caused at a specific

> cost.

> >

> > Hope this helps,

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> > visti@s...

> >

> > shankar_mamta [vinita@u...]

> > 19 October 2004 13:09

> >

> > Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Saturn strong-Miserable,

saturn

> weak-Miserable, when saturn is beneficial?

> >

> > Dear Shri Jagannathanji,

> >

> > I too would like to know more about Saturn. What if Saturn is

> retro,

> > exalted and in the 6th House? Does it act as a debilitated planet

> or

> > is it strong?

> >

> > I have some personal experience about this.

> >

> > I would also like to know whether the 3rd drishti of Saturn

> > can "mutate" planets over time.

> >

> > Shall be grateful for your comments.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Vinita

> >

> > , sumanth krishna

> > <sanji_sumanth> wrote:

> > > Thanks for your reply

> > >

> > > my birth details.

> > > |DOB-12-03-1983

> > > time-03.42am

> > > place-Bangalore(india,karnataka)

> > >

> > > Sumanth

> > >

> > > kapisthalam jagannathan <jagannathankr> wrote:

> > > Dear Sir,

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> > > Many say that, a strong saturn in a natives horoscope is also a

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What if a planet gets neecha banga in navamsa. Say mars is debiliated in

navamsa but has moon in quadrant - or say mars is exalted in rashi chart but

debiliated in navamsa - Does it confer neecha banga for the debiliated mars in

navamsa ? What will be the effects then ?

Thanks

Arvind

Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote:

|Hare Rama Krsna|

Dear Ramapriya, Namaskar

In Jaspal’s chart, Saturn is debilitated in Navämça – it causes Rajbhanga Yoga.

Keep that in mind for any planets in Lagna. But the aspirations are high as the

planet is Yoga Karaka. Actually Saturn in 12th house for Taurus Lagna is much

better, as it confer Vipareet Räjya Yoga. Problem is that its in Lagna –

otherwise it would be quite powerful.

Best wishes,

Ramapriya D [hubli (AT) hotpop (DOT) com] 20 October 2004 14:35To:

Subject: Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Saturn

strong-Miserable, saturn weak-Miserable, when saturn is beneficial?

Sat sri akal Jaspal,

Sa for Ta asc folks isn't an unqualified yogakaraka. Moreover, by definition, a

yogakaraka is one who has the potential to confer a yoga. And not all

potentials fructify, if you didn't know that already.

Cheers,

Ramapriya

-

Jaspal Kaur

Wednesday, October 20, 2004 11:35 AM

RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Saturn strong-Miserable, saturn

weak-Miserable, when saturn is beneficial?

Respected Guru Ji NamaskaarThanks for the reply and the valueable suggestions.

but i would like to know more as how can a yagkarka planet in freindly sign

gives a Bad health and what type of bad health. Please being a learner i would

like to know more

Thanks & Regards

Jaspal

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Definatley you cleared my doubt.

But one thing sie , when saturn starts to behave like debilitated , will it

affects the houses lorded by it.

Thanking you

SumanthVisti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote:

|Hare Rama Krishna|

Dear Sumanth, Namaskar

The dictum is based on material benefits vs. spiritual benefits.

Exalted malefics in quadrants are good for spirituality, whilst debilitated ones

are good for money/wealth/etc.

Now if you see Sanjay Rath’s chart, nodes are exalted in quadrants, and hence

there is a stronger spiritual influence on his life, and not much money.

Generally we can say that if nodes are debilitated in quadrants to Lagna or

Ärüòha Lagna, they will give LOTS of money, wealth, fame, fortune during their

Dasa.

Notice that Saturn is exalted BUT retrograde in your chart… hence its likely to give both effects.

So initially Saturn being an exalted malefic in 10th house will bring

pilgrimages, meeting sadhus and religious people, spiritual persuits etc.

As soon as Saturn turns retrograde in transit, you will personally see benefits

in society, good name, fame, etc. The latter is because Saturn will begin to

act as if in debilitation when Saturn turns retro in transit.

Clarified?

Best wishes,

sumanth krishna [sanji_sumanth ] 20 October 2004

02:27Subject: RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Saturn

strong-Miserable, saturn weak-Miserable, when saturn is beneficial?

To respected Visti sir,

Sir in you mail you said that saturn in quadrant is inauspsious. Even though i

have exalted Retrograde satun in 10 house, my Satrun Bhukthi was such a good

period which i enjoyed most.

During saturn bukthi,i improved in my studies, i went to some holy places, i

came in contact with Gurus of Ramakrishna ashram, i started learing Vedas and

visited many Ramakrishna Ashrams,i won many school elections and become leader

..i dont have anything bad to tell about my saturns period.

DOB-12-03-1983

place-Bangalore(india,karnataka)

time-03.42am

Thanking you

Sumanth Ramesh Gangaramani <ramesh.gangaramani (AT) ae (DOT) york.com> wrote:

Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

Dear Visti,

I would like to go back to your original comment of Saturn in lagna being

specifically bad for for Taurus (a friendly sign) lagna for health. Can you

explain this please. Also the comment about family having to move.

Thanks and regards

Ramesh

Visti Larsen

[visti (AT) (DOT) org]Wednesday, October 20, 2004 2:39 AMTo:

Subject: RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Saturn

strong-Miserable, saturn weak-Miserable, when saturn is beneficial?

|Hare Rama Krsna|

Dear Jaspal, Namaskar.

Please move your birthtime back to 11:39 PM.

You are good in counseling, human relations and administration.

Focus on those areas.

Please wear a ruby, fast on Mondays and worship the Shiva Linga this will help

your career immensely, and will remedy your Saturn.

Best wishes,

Jaspal Kaur [jaspaljkaur ] 19 October 2004 17:26To:

Subject: RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Saturn

strong-Miserable, saturn weak-Miserable, when saturn is beneficial?

Respected Guru ji Namaskar

I have done independent work as small scale business in flower making , then did

business in partenrship in educational institute was very good but dint get a

single Rupee and left in 2002 after a hardwork of 5 years.... Now want to do

something differeent but dont know Everybody says i am good in councelling.

Thanks

Jaspal

..Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote:

|Hare Rama Krsna|

Dear Jaspal, Namaskar.

With the given chart of yours, I see you in a profession of government service,

with military affiliations, however if I move the chart back by a few minutes I

get a person who has done a job with writing/communications/publications and

more independent work.

Please confirm.

Jaspal Kaur [jaspaljkaur ] 19 October 2004 15:48To:

Subject: RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Saturn

strong-Miserable, saturn weak-Miserable, when saturn is beneficial?

Respected Guru ji

Thanks for your reply. Yes sir i am suffering a health problem since my

childhood. But not setteled in career also. have changed many times Still dont

know which line i should choose. Can you help me in this regard

Thanks

JaspalVisti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote:

|Hare Rama Krishna|

Dear Jaspal, Namaskar.

Saturn in Lagna in Taurus will cause serious health issues especially in

childhood, and force the family to move away from your birthplace. Is health a

major problem?

Libra Ndrdyaka Dasa after 2000 would have caused a lot of problems at work and

bad name due to fights and battles.

Also a change of residence is expected during 2000-2010.

Best wishes,

Jaspal Kaur [jaspaljkaur ] 19 October 2004 15:05To:

Subject: RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Saturn

strong-Miserable, saturn weak-Miserable, when saturn is beneficial?

Respected Astrologers

I want to know more about this as what will be the effect of Saturn placed in

first house in Taurus lagan as it is Yog karka for the lagan. Is it Auspisious

or Inauspicious. as i have many confusion in this regard has shown my horoscope

to many astrologers each has different opinion. I hope i will get my answers

here and being a learner of astrology will get proper knowledge. Birth Details

are DOB 28th August 1971 Time 11:45Pm Longitude 74E42'00 Latitude

29N58'00. And one mroe thing i would like to know if possible wich planet has

given me a major poblem as someone says its saturn someone says other. I am

really

confused about this.

Regards

Jaspal

Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote:

|Hare Rama Krsna|

Dear List, Namaskar.

Kalyan Verma of Saravali specifically states that if Saturn is strong there will

be more sorrow, whilst if Saturn is weak there will be less.

Now what confuses people is what is meant by strong. In that specific example,

Kalyan Verma is talking about the houses (gagana=sky or bha-chakra).

So now one should know the strong houses:

a) Saturn being placed in a quadrant is inauspicious

b) Saturn being placed in debilitation is again very inauspicious

c) Debilitated Saturn in quadrants is auspicious, and can cause Rajya

Yoga. However this Rajya Yoga is caused at a specific cost.

Hope this helps,

shankar_mamta [vinita (AT) ub (DOT) nic.in] 19 October 2004 13:09To:

Subject: Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Saturn

strong-Miserable, saturn weak-Miserable, when saturn is beneficial?

Dear Shri Jagannathanji,I too would like to know more about Saturn. What if

Saturn is retro, exalted and in the 6th House? Does it act as a debilitated

planet or is it strong?I have some personal experience about this.I would also

like to know whether the 3rd drishti of Saturn can "mutate" planets over time.

Shall be grateful for your comments.Regards,Vinita--- In

, sumanth krishna <sanji_sumanth> wrote:>

Thanks for your reply> > my birth details.> |DOB-12-03-1983> time-03.42am>

place-Bangalore(india,karnataka)> > Sumanth> > kapisthalam jagannathan

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details we may try to analyse and see.> Regards,> jagannathan.> > sumanth

krishna <sanji_sumanth> wrote:

New">> Respected Astrologers,> > Many say that, a strong saturn in a natives

horoscope is also a problem(give more miseries) and a weak saturn in a natives

horosocpe also gives miseries and many say sasa yoga is also painful why?> >

As a learner of astrology, this has become a unsolved puzzle for me that when

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and Lagnadhipathi(for Capricorn lagna, Aquaris

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12.0pt">|Hare Rama Krsna|

12.0pt">Dear Arvind,

12.0pt">

What if a planet

gets neecha banga in navamsa. Say mars is debiliated in navamsa but has

moon in quadrant –

12.0pt">This will only affect marriage matters.

12.0pt">

color:windowtext">or say mars is exalted in rashi chart but debiliated in

navamsa - Does it confer neecha banga for the debiliated mars in navamsa ?

What will be the effects

No it doesn’t.

Best wishes,

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RE: [sJC: Achyuta

Gurukul] Saturn strong-Miserable, saturn weak-Miserable, when saturn is

beneficial?

12.0pt">

12.0pt">Dear Visti,

12.0pt"> What if a planet gets neecha banga in navamsa. Say

mars is debiliated in navamsa but has moon in quadrant - or say mars is

exalted in rashi chart but debiliated in navamsa - Does it confer neecha banga

for the debiliated mars in navamsa ? What will be the effects then ?

12.0pt">

12.0pt">Thanks

12.0pt">Arvind

12.0pt">

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margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">

|Hare Rama

Krsna|

Dear

Ramapriya, Namaskar

In

Jaspals chart, Saturn is debilitated in Navdmga it causes Rajbhanga

Yoga. Keep that in mind for any planets in Lagna. But the aspirations are high

as the planet is Yoga Karaka. Actually Saturn in 12th house for

Taurus Lagna is much better, as it confer Vipareet Rdjya Yoga. Problem is that

its in Lagna otherwise it would be quite powerful.

Best wishes,

V

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Re: [sJC: Achyuta

Gurukul] Saturn strong-Miserable, saturn weak-Miserable, when saturn is

beneficial?

12.0pt">

10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"">Sat sri akal Jaspal,

12.0pt">

10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"">Sa for Ta asc folks isn't an unqualified

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to confer a yoga. And not all potentials fructify, if you didn't know that

already.

12.0pt">

10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"">Cheers,

12.0pt">

10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"">Ramapriya

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beneficial?

12.0pt">

12.0pt">Respected Guru Ji Namaskaar

Thanks for the reply and the valueable suggestions. but i would like to

know more as how can a yagkarka planet in freindly sign gives a Bad health and

what type of bad health. Please being a learner i would like to know more

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21 October 2004 03:28

RE: [sJC: Achyuta

Gurukul] Saturn strong-Miserable, saturn weak-Miserable, when saturn is

beneficial?

12.0pt">

12.0pt">Thanks guruji for your reply

12.0pt">

12.0pt">Definatley you cleared my doubt.

12.0pt">

12.0pt">But one thing sie , when saturn starts to behave like debilitated

, will it affects the houses lorded by it.

12.0pt">

12.0pt">Thanking you

12.0pt">

12.0pt">Sumanth

Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org>

wrote:

margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">

|Hare Rama

Krishna|

Dear Sumanth,

Namaskar

The dictum is

based on material benefits vs. spiritual benefits.

Exalted

malefics in quadrants are good for spirituality, whilst debilitated ones are

good for money/wealth/etc.

Now if you

see Sanjay Raths chart, nodes are exalted in quadrants, and hence there is

a stronger spiritual influence on his life, and not much money.

Generally we

can say that if nodes are debilitated in quadrants to Lagna or Dr|rha Lagna,

they will give LOTS of money, wealth, fame, fortune during their Dasa.

Notice that

Saturn is exalted BUT retrograde in your chart hence its likely to give both

effects.

So initially

Saturn being an exalted malefic in 10th house will bring

pilgrimages, meeting sadhus and religious people, spiritual persuits etc.

As soon as

Saturn turns retrograde in transit, you will personally see benefits in

society, good name, fame, etc. The latter is because Saturn will begin to act

as if in debilitation when Saturn turns retro in transit.

Clarified?

Best wishes,

bold">Visti Larsen

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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">sumanth krishna

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20 October 2004 02:27

RE: [sJC: Achyuta

Gurukul] Saturn strong-Miserable, saturn weak-Miserable, when saturn is

beneficial?

12.0pt">

12.0pt">To respected Visti sir,

12.0pt">

12.0pt">Sir in you mail you said that saturn in quadrant is inauspsious.

Even though i have exalted Retrograde satun in 10 house, my Satrun Bhukthi was

such a good period which i enjoyed most.

12.0pt">During saturn bukthi,i improved in my studies, i went to some holy

places, i came in contact with Gurus of Ramakrishna ashram, i started learing

Vedas and visited many Ramakrishna Ashrams,i won many school elections and

become leader .i dont have anything bad to tell about my saturns period.

12.0pt">

12.0pt">DOB-12-03-1983

12.0pt">place-Bangalore(india,karnataka)

12.0pt">time-03.42am

12.0pt">

12.0pt">Thanking you

12.0pt">Sumanth

Ramesh Gangaramani

<ramesh.gangaramani (AT) ae (DOT) york.com> wrote:

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12.0pt;font-family:Georgia;color:blue">Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

12.0pt">

12.0pt;font-family:Georgia;color:blue">Dear Visti,

12.0pt;font-family:Georgia;color:blue">I would like to go back to your original

comment of Saturn in lagna being specifically bad for for Taurus (a friendly

sign) lagna for health. Can you explain this please. Also the comment

about family having to move.

12.0pt;font-family:Georgia;color:blue">Thanks and regards

12.0pt;font-family:Georgia;color:blue">Ramesh

Visti Larsen

[visti (AT) (DOT) org]

Wednesday, October 20, 2004

2:39

AM

RE: [sJC: Achyuta

Gurukul] Saturn strong-Miserable, saturn weak-Miserable, when saturn is

beneficial?

|Hare Rama

Krsna|

Dear Jaspal,

Namaskar.

Please move

your birthtime back to 11:39 PM.

You are good

in counseling, human relations and administration.

Focus on

those areas.

Please wear a

ruby, fast on Mondays and worship the Shiva Linga this will help your

career immensely, and will remedy your Saturn.

Best wishes,

bold">Visti Larsen

color:#4E81C4">

font-family:Verdana;color:#4E81C4">

padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm">

font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">Jaspal Kaur

[jaspaljkaur ]

19 October 2004 17:26

RE: [sJC: Achyuta

Gurukul] Saturn strong-Miserable, saturn weak-Miserable, when saturn is

beneficial?

12.0pt">

12.0pt">Respected Guru ji Namaskar

12.0pt">I have done independent work as small scale business in flower making ,

then did business in partenrship in educational institute was very good but

dint get a single Rupee and left in 2002 after a hardwork of 5 years.... Now

want to do something differeent but dont know Everybody says i am good in

councelling.

12.0pt">Thanks

12.0pt">Jaspal

12.0pt">.

Visti Larsen

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|Hare Rama

Krsna|

Dear Jaspal,

Namaskar.

With the

given chart of yours, I see you in a profession of government service, with

military affiliations, however if I move the chart back by a few minutes I get

a person who has done a job with writing/communications/publications and more

independent work.

Please

confirm.

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19 October 2004 15:48

RE: [sJC: Achyuta

Gurukul] Saturn strong-Miserable, saturn weak-Miserable, when saturn is

beneficial?

12.0pt">

12.0pt">Respected Guru ji

12.0pt">Thanks for your reply. Yes sir i am suffering a health problem since my

childhood. But not setteled in career also. have changed many times Still

dont know which line i should choose. Can you help me in this regard

12.0pt">Thanks

12.0pt">Jaspal

Visti Larsen

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|Hare Rama

Krishna|

Dear Jaspal,

Namaskar.

Saturn in

Lagna in Taurus will cause serious health issues especially in childhood,

and force the family to move away from your birthplace. Is health a major

problem?

Libra

Ndrdyaka Dasa after 2000 would have caused a lot of problems at work and bad

name due to fights and battles.

Also a change

of residence is expected during 2000-2010.

Best wishes,

bold">Visti Larsen

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19 October 2004 15:05

RE: [sJC: Achyuta

Gurukul] Saturn strong-Miserable, saturn weak-Miserable, when saturn is

beneficial?

12.0pt">

12.0pt">Respected Astrologers

12.0pt">I want to know more about this as what will be the effect of Saturn

placed in first house in Taurus lagan as it is Yog karka for the lagan. Is it

Auspisious or Inauspicious. as i have many confusion in this regard has shown

my horoscope to many astrologers each has different opinion. I hope i will get

my answers here and being a learner of astrology will get proper knowledge.

Birth Details are DOB 28th August 1971 Time 11:45Pm

Longitude 74E42'00 Latitude 29N58'00. And one mroe

thing i would like to know if possible wich planet has given me a major poblem

as someone says its saturn someone says other. I am really confused about this.

12.0pt">Regards

12.0pt">Jaspal

12.0pt">

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Dear List,

Namaskar.

Kalyan Verma

of Saravali specifically states that if Saturn is strong there will be more

sorrow, whilst if Saturn is weak there will be less.

Now what

confuses people is what is meant by strong. In that specific example,

Kalyan Verma is talking about the houses (gagana=sky or bha-chakra).

So now one

should know the strong houses:

l0 level1 lfo5">a) Saturn

being placed in a quadrant is inauspicious

l0 level1 lfo5">b) Saturn

being placed in debilitation is again very inauspicious

l0 level1 lfo5">c) Debilitated

Saturn in quadrants is auspicious, and can cause Rajya Yoga. However this Rajya

Yoga is caused at a specific cost.

10.0pt">

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19 October 2004 13:09

Re: [sJC: Achyuta

Gurukul] Saturn strong-Miserable, saturn weak-Miserable, when saturn is

beneficial?

12.0pt">

Dear Shri Jagannathanji,

I too would like to know more about Saturn. What

if Saturn is retro,

exalted and in the 6th House? Does it act as a

debilitated planet or

is it strong?

I have some personal experience about this.

I would also like to know whether the 3rd drishti

of Saturn

can "mutate" planets over time.

Shall be grateful for your comments.

Regards,

Vinita

, sumanth

krishna

<sanji_sumanth> wrote:

> Thanks for your reply

>

> my birth details.

> |DOB-12-03-1983

> time-03.42am

> place-Bangalore(india,karnataka)

>

> Sumanth

>

> kapisthalam jagannathan

<jagannathankr> wrote:

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> If you can kimdly mail your birth details we

may try to analyse and

see.

> Regards,

> jagannathan.

>

> sumanth krishna <sanji_sumanth>

wrote:

> Respected

Astrologers,

>

> Many say that, a strong saturn in a natives

horoscope is also a

problem(give more miseries) and a weak saturn in a

natives horosocpe

font-family:CourierNew">also gives miseries and many say sasa yoga is also

painful why?

>

> As a learner of astrology, this has become a

unsolved puzzle for me

that when to say saturn is benefical.Does Saturn

proves benefical

when he is Yogakraka, and Lagnadhipathi(for

Capricorn lagna, Aquaris

lagna ) and is also powerfully placed both in

navamsa and rashi.

>

> My thinking is if the cause of Miseries is

strong then no quesiton

of problems(related to its karakatwa) in the

horosocpe.

>

> If my thinking is wrong, please astrologers

correct me

>

> Hope i get answer

>

> Sumanth

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October 21, 2004

Arvind,

Remember also the quaint, but not irrelevant, adage that navamsa represents the

'planetary dignity'. More simply put, it means purvapunya. This adds up nicely

to why Hindus recommend conducting yourself properly -- so that the deeds don't

catch up when you least expect them to, in your next life

Thou may have a super wife (great D-1) but if thou art jinxed (woebegone D-9),

your mother-in-law will come calling by the morrow.

Cheers,

Ramapriya

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Thursday, October 21, 2004 8:17 AM

RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Saturn strong-Miserable, saturn

weak-Miserable, when saturn is beneficial?

Dear Visti,

What if a planet gets neecha banga in navamsa. Say mars is debiliated in

navamsa but has moon in quadrant - or say mars is exalted in rashi chart but

debiliated in navamsa - Does it confer neecha banga for the debiliated mars in

navamsa ? What will be the effects then ?

Thanks

Arvind

October 21, 2004

Yes, when ANY planet changes direction, it IS strongly felt for sure- works

always, all the time. VeR turning direct is like Ve 'getting freedom', for

example..It works particularly well with slow moving planets /but with Mercury

as well../

Many opine /and I agree/ that change of sign- using one day for year

progression- brings related changes as well, etc..But change of direction seems

to be more powerful in terms of manifestations.

Regards,

nAnaRamapriya D <hubli (AT) hotpop (DOT) com> wrote:

Vinita,

Have you applied the Ramadas Rule on retro planets? It seems to work pretty

well, as far as I've noticed. Ascertain the number of days Sa was retro before

turning direct after your birth, and count each day as a year. After the lapse

of that number of years, it'll act like it was direct in your chart. For Ta

ascendants, Sa is a do-gooder, esp so if Ra gets to own 10h.

Cheers,

Ramapriya

-

shankar_mamta

Tuesday, October 19, 2004 9:09 PM

Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Saturn strong-Miserable, saturn

weak-Miserable, when saturn is beneficial?

Dear Shri Jagannathanji,I too would like to know more about Saturn. What if

Saturn is retro, exalted and in the 6th House? Does it act as a debilitated

planet or is it strong?I have some personal experience about this.I would also

like to know whether the 3rd drishti of Saturn can "mutate" planets over time.

Shall be grateful for your comments.Regards,Vinita[Om Kleem Krishnaaya

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">|| Jaya Jagannath ||

Dear Jyotisha,

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">The general rule is that Jupiter or Saturn

in Thorne (1st or 10th) while in Pisces or Cancer

respectively gives powerful rajayoga.

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Best Wishes

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Thursday, October 21, 2004

3:09 AM

RE: [sJC: Achyuta

Gurukul] Saturn strong-Miserable, saturn weak-Miserable, when saturn is

beneficial?

12.0pt">

|Hare

Rama Krsna|

Dear

Kishi, Namaskar

Yes you are

right. Saturn is good for Räjya Yoga if in the 1st or 10th houses AND in CANCER.

So this rule

only applies to Libra or Cancer Lagna’s.

Just to name

a few;

Indira Gandhi,

George W. Bush, Sonia Gandhi, Adolph Hitler, Al Gore (however its joined a

debilitated Saturn, causing Rajbhanga), Bill Clinton, Manmohan Singh and many

more.

Problem is

that instead of hurting the native, it ends up hurting others and conferring Räjya

yoga on the native – i.e. a dethrownment must occur.

Best wishes,

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20 October 2004 00:27

Re: [sJC: Achyuta

Gurukul] Saturn strong-Miserable, saturn weak-Miserable, when saturn is

beneficial?

12.0pt">

hi ,

SAturn in Quadrant is not always inauspicious .

Person having Strong Saturn in Lagna for cancer

accendant gives Raja

Yoga . Also I think in Amitabh bacchan Horoscope

Saturn is in

quadrant in Gemini .. And his Saturn dasa was

excellent ...

Pls Correct me if i m wrong .

--Kishi

, Jaspal Kaur

wrote:

> Respected Guru ji Namaskar

> I have done independent work as small scale

business in flower

making , then did business in partenrship in

educational institute

was very good but dint get a single Rupee and left

in 2002 after a

hardwork of 5 years.... Now want to do something

differeent but dont

know Everybody says i am good in councelling.

> Thanks

> Jaspal

> .

> Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:

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> |Hare Rama Krsna|

>

> Dear Jaspal, Namaskar.

>

> With the given chart of yours, I see you in a

profession of

government service, with military affiliations,

however if I move the

chart back by a few minutes I get a person who has

done a job with

writing/communications/publications and more

independent work.

>

> Please confirm.

>

> Visti Larsen

> visti@s...

>

> Jaspal Kaur [jaspaljkaur]

> 19 October 2004 15:48

>

> RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Saturn

strong-Miserable, saturn

weak-Miserable, when saturn is beneficial?

>

> Respected Guru ji

>

> Thanks for your reply. Yes sir i am suffering

a health problem

since my childhood. But not setteled in career

also. have changed

many times Still dont know which line i

should choose. Can you help

me in this regard

>

> Thanks

>

> Jaspal

> Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:

>

> |Hare Rama Krishna|

>

> Dear Jaspal, Namaskar.

>

> Saturn in Lagna in Taurus will cause serious

health issues

especially in childhood, and force the family to

move away from your

birthplace. Is health a major problem?

>

> Libra Ndrdyaka Dasa after 2000 would have

caused a lot of problems

at work and bad name due to fights and battles.

>

> Also a change of residence is expected during

2000-2010.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Visti Larsen

> visti@s...

>

> Jaspal Kaur [jaspaljkaur]

> 19 October 2004 15:05

>

> RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Saturn

strong-Miserable, saturn

weak-Miserable, when saturn is beneficial?

>

> Respected Astrologers

>

> I want to know more about this as what will

be the effect of Saturn

placed in first house in Taurus lagan as it is Yog

karka for the

lagan. Is it Auspisious or Inauspicious. as i have

many confusion in

this regard has shown my horoscope to many

astrologers each has

different opinion. I hope i will get my answers

here and being a

learner of astrology will get proper knowledge.

Birth Details are

DOB 28th August 1971 Time 11:45Pm Longitude

74E42'00 Latitude

29N58'00. And one mroe thing i would like to know

if possible wich

planet has given me a major poblem as someone says

its saturn someone

says other. I am really confused about this.

>

> Regards

>

> Jaspal

>

> Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:

>

> |Hare Rama Krsna|

>

> Dear List, Namaskar.

>

> Kalyan Verma of Saravali specifically states

that if Saturn is

strong there will be more sorrow, whilst if Saturn

is weak there will

be less.

>

> Now what confuses people is what is meant by

strong. In that

specific example, Kalyan Verma is talking about

the houses

(gagana=sky or bha-chakra).

>

> So now one should know the strong houses:

>

> a) Saturn

being placed in a quadrant is inauspicious

>

> b) Saturn

being placed in debilitation is again very

inauspicious

>

> c)

Debilitated Saturn in quadrants is auspicious, and can

cause Rajya Yoga. However this Rajya Yoga is

caused at a specific

cost.

>

> Hope this helps,

>

> Visti Larsen

> visti@s...

>

> shankar_mamta [vinita@u...]

> 19 October 2004 13:09

>

> Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Saturn

strong-Miserable, saturn

weak-Miserable, when saturn is beneficial?

>

> Dear Shri Jagannathanji,

>

> I too would like to know more about Saturn.

What if Saturn is

retro,

> exalted and in the 6th House? Does it act as

a debilitated planet

or

> is it strong?

>

> I have some personal experience about this.

>

> I would also like to know whether the 3rd

drishti of Saturn

> can "mutate" planets over time.

>

> Shall be grateful for your comments.

>

> Regards,

>

> Vinita

>

> , sumanth

krishna

> <sanji_sumanth> wrote:

> > Thanks for your reply

> >

> > my birth details.

> > |DOB-12-03-1983

> > time-03.42am

> > place-Bangalore(india,karnataka)

> >

> > Sumanth

> >

> > kapisthalam jagannathan

<jagannathankr> wrote:

> > Dear Sir,

> > If you can kimdly mail your birth

details we may try to analyse

and

> see.

> > Regards,

> > jagannathan.

> >

> > sumanth krishna

<sanji_sumanth> wrote:

> > Respected Astrologers,

> >

> > Many say that, a strong saturn in a natives

horoscope is also a

> problem(give more miseries) and a weak saturn

in a natives

horosocpe

> also gives miseries and many say sasa yoga is

also painful why?

> >

> > As a learner of astrology, this has

become a unsolved puzzle for

me

> that when to say saturn is benefical.Does

Saturn proves benefical

> when he is Yogakraka, and Lagnadhipathi(for

Capricorn lagna,

Aquaris

> lagna ) and is also powerfully placed both in

navamsa and rashi.

> >

> > My thinking is if the cause of Miseries

is strong then no

quesiton

> of problems(related to its karakatwa) in the

horosocpe.

> >

> > If my thinking is wrong, please

astrologers correct me

> >

> > Hope i get answer

> >

> > Sumanth

> >

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