[SJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Saturn strong-Miserable, saturn weak-Miserable, when saturn is beneficial?

October 18, 2004

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jagannathan.sumanth krishna <sanji_sumanth > wrote:

Respected Astrologers,

Many say that, a strong saturn in a natives horoscope is also a problem(give

more miseries) and a weak saturn in a natives horosocpe also gives miseries and

many say sasa yoga is also painful why?

As a learner of astrology, this has become a unsolved puzzle for me that when to

say saturn is benefical.Does Saturn proves benefical when he is Yogakraka, and

Lagnadhipathi(for Capricorn lagna, Aquaris lagna ) and is also powerfully

placed both in navamsa and rashi.

My thinking is if the cause of Miseries is strong then no quesiton of

problems(related to its karakatwa) in the horosocpe.

If my thinking is wrong, please astrologers correct me

Hope i get answer

Sumanth

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|DOB-12-03-1983

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place-Bangalore(india,karnataka)

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jagannathan.sumanth krishna <sanji_sumanth > wrote:

Respected Astrologers,

Many say that, a strong saturn in a natives horoscope is also a problem(give

more miseries) and a weak saturn in a natives horosocpe also gives miseries and

many say sasa yoga is also painful why?

As a learner of astrology, this has become a unsolved puzzle for me that when to

say saturn is benefical.Does Saturn proves benefical when he is Yogakraka, and

Lagnadhipathi(for Capricorn lagna, Aquaris lagna ) and is also powerfully

placed both in navamsa and rashi.

My thinking is if the cause of Miseries is strong then no quesiton of

problems(related to its karakatwa) in the horosocpe.

If my thinking is wrong, please astrologers correct me

Hope i get answer

Sumanth

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October 19, 2004

Dear Shri Jagannathanji,

I too would like to know more about Saturn. What if Saturn is retro,

exalted and in the 6th House? Does it act as a debilitated planet or

is it strong?

I have some personal experience about this.

I would also like to know whether the 3rd drishti of Saturn

can "mutate" planets over time.

Shall be grateful for your comments.

Regards,

Vinita

, sumanth krishna

<sanji_sumanth> wrote:

> Thanks for your reply

>

> my birth details.

> |DOB-12-03-1983

> time-03.42am

> place-Bangalore(india,karnataka)

>

> Sumanth

>

> kapisthalam jagannathan <jagannathankr> wrote:

> Dear Sir,

> If you can kimdly mail your birth details we may try to analyse and

see.

> Regards,

> jagannathan.

>

> sumanth krishna <sanji_sumanth> wrote:

> Respected Astrologers,

>

> Many say that, a strong saturn in a natives horoscope is also a

problem(give more miseries) and a weak saturn in a natives horosocpe

also gives miseries and many say sasa yoga is also painful why?

>

> As a learner of astrology, this has become a unsolved puzzle for me

that when to say saturn is benefical.Does Saturn proves benefical

when he is Yogakraka, and Lagnadhipathi(for Capricorn lagna, Aquaris

lagna ) and is also powerfully placed both in navamsa and rashi.

>

> My thinking is if the cause of Miseries is strong then no quesiton

of problems(related to its karakatwa) in the horosocpe.

>

> If my thinking is wrong, please astrologers correct me

>

> Hope i get answer

>

> Sumanth

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October 19, 2004

|Hare Rama

Krsna|

Dear List,

Namaskar.

Kalyan Verma

of Saravali specifically states that if Saturn is strong there will be more

sorrow, whilst if Saturn is weak there will be less.

Now what

confuses people is what is meant by “strong”. In that specific

example, Kalyan Verma is talking about the houses (gagana=sky or bha-chakra).

So now one

should know the strong houses:

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Saturn being placed in a quadrant

is inauspicious

l1 level1 lfo3">b)

Saturn being placed in

debilitation is again very inauspicious

l1 level1 lfo3">c)

Debilitated Saturn in quadrants is

auspicious, and can cause Rajya Yoga. However this Rajya Yoga is caused at a

specific cost.

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19 October 2004 13:09

Re: [sJC: Achyuta

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beneficial?

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Dear Shri Jagannathanji,

I too would like to know more about Saturn. What

if Saturn is retro,

exalted and in the 6th House? Does it act as a

debilitated planet or

is it strong?

I have some personal experience about this.

I would also like to know whether the 3rd drishti

of Saturn

can "mutate" planets over time.

Shall be grateful for your comments.

Regards,

Vinita

, sumanth

krishna

<sanji_sumanth> wrote:

> Thanks for your reply

>

> my birth details.

> |DOB-12-03-1983

> time-03.42am

> place-Bangalore(india,karnataka)

>

> Sumanth

>

> kapisthalam jagannathan

<jagannathankr> wrote:

> Dear Sir,

> If you can kimdly mail your birth details we

may try to analyse and

see.

> Regards,

> jagannathan.

>

> sumanth krishna <sanji_sumanth>

wrote:

> Respected Astrologers,

>

> Many say that, a strong saturn in a natives

horoscope is also a

problem(give more miseries) and a weak saturn in a

natives horosocpe

also gives miseries and many say sasa yoga is also

painful why?

>

> As a learner of astrology, this has become a

unsolved puzzle for me

that when to say saturn is benefical.Does Saturn

proves benefical

when he is Yogakraka, and Lagnadhipathi(for

Capricorn lagna, Aquaris

lagna ) and is also powerfully placed both in

navamsa and rashi.

>

> My thinking is if the cause of Miseries is

strong then no quesiton

of problems(related to its karakatwa) in the

horosocpe.

>

> If my thinking is wrong, please astrologers

correct me

>

> Hope i get answer

>

> Sumanth

>

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October 19, 2004

Vinita,

Have you applied the Ramadas Rule on retro planets? It seems to work pretty

well, as far as I've noticed. Ascertain the number of days Sa was retro before

turning direct after your birth, and count each day as a year. After the lapse

of that number of years, it'll act like it was direct in your chart. For Ta

ascendants, Sa is a do-gooder, esp so if Ra gets to own 10h.

Cheers,

Ramapriya

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Tuesday, October 19, 2004 9:09 PM

Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Saturn strong-Miserable, saturn

weak-Miserable, when saturn is beneficial?

Dear Shri Jagannathanji,I too would like to know more about Saturn. What if

Saturn is retro, exalted and in the 6th House? Does it act as a debilitated

planet or is it strong?I have some personal experience about this.I would also

like to know whether the 3rd drishti of Saturn can "mutate" planets over time.

Shall be grateful for your comments.Regards,Vinita

October 19, 2004

I want to know more about this as what will be the effect of Saturn placed in

first house in Taurus lagan as it is Yog karka for the lagan. Is it Auspisious

or Inauspicious. as i have many confusion in this regard has shown my horoscope

to many astrologers each has different opinion. I hope i will get my answers

here and being a learner of astrology will get proper knowledge. Birth Details

are DOB 28th August 1971 Time 11:45Pm Longitude 74E42'00 Latitude

29N58'00. And one mroe thing i would like to know if possible wich planet has

given me a major poblem as someone says its saturn someone says other. I am

really confused about this.

Regards

Jaspal

Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote:

|Hare Rama Krsna|

Dear List, Namaskar.

Kalyan Verma of Saravali specifically states that if Saturn is strong there will

be more sorrow, whilst if Saturn is weak there will be less.

Now what confuses people is what is meant by “strong”. In that specific example,

Kalyan Verma is talking about the houses (gagana=sky or bha-chakra).

So now one should know the strong houses:

a) Saturn being placed in a quadrant is inauspicious

b) Saturn being placed in debilitation is again very inauspicious

c) Debilitated Saturn in quadrants is auspicious, and can cause Rajya

Yoga. However this Rajya Yoga is caused at a specific cost.

Hope this helps,

Visti Larsenvisti (AT) (DOT) org

shankar_mamta [vinita (AT) ub (DOT) nic.in] 19 October 2004 13:09To:

Subject: Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Saturn

strong-Miserable, saturn weak-Miserable, when saturn is beneficial?

Dear Shri Jagannathanji,I too would like to know more about Saturn. What if

Saturn is retro, exalted and in the 6th House? Does it act as a debilitated

planet or is it strong?I have some personal experience about this.I would also

like to know whether the 3rd drishti of Saturn can "mutate" planets over time.

Shall be grateful for your comments.Regards,Vinita--- In

, sumanth krishna <sanji_sumanth> wrote:>

Thanks for your reply> > my birth details.> |DOB-12-03-1983> time-03.42am>

place-Bangalore(india,karnataka)> > Sumanth> > kapisthalam jagannathan

<jagannathankr> wrote:> Dear Sir,> If you can kimdly mail your birth

details we may try to analyse and see.> Regards,> jagannathan.> > sumanth

krishna <sanji_sumanth> wrote:> Respected Astrologers,> > Many say that,

a strong saturn in a natives horoscope is also a problem(give more miseries)

and a weak saturn in a natives horosocpe also gives miseries and many say sasa

yoga is also painful why?>

> As a learner of astrology, this has become a unsolved puzzle for me that when

to say saturn is benefical.Does Saturn proves benefical when he is Yogakraka,

and Lagnadhipathi(for Capricorn lagna, Aquaris lagna ) and is also powerfully

placed both in navamsa and rashi.> > My thinking is if the cause of Miseries

is strong then no quesiton of problems(related to its karakatwa) in the

horosocpe.> > If my thinking is wrong, please astrologers correct me> > Hope

i

get answer> > Sumanth> > > > >

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October 19, 2004

|Hare Rama

Krishna|

Dear Jaspal,

Namaskar.

Saturn in

Lagna in Taurus will cause serious health issues – especially in

childhood, and force the family to move away from your birthplace. Is health a

major problem?

Libra Näräyaëa

Dasa after 2000 would have caused a lot of problems at work and bad name due to

fights and battles.

Also a change

of residence is expected during 2000-2010.

Best wishes,

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19 October 2004 15:05

RE: [sJC: Achyuta

Gurukul] Saturn strong-Miserable, saturn weak-Miserable, when saturn is

beneficial?

12.0pt">

12.0pt">Respected Astrologers

12.0pt">I want to know more about this as what will be the effect of Saturn

placed in first house in Taurus lagan as it is Yog karka for the lagan. Is it

Auspisious or Inauspicious. as i have many confusion in this regard has shown

my horoscope to many astrologers each has different opinion. I hope i will get

my answers here and being a learner of astrology will get proper knowledge.

Birth Details are DOB 28th August 1971 Time 11:45Pm Longitude 74E42'00 Latitude

29N58'00. And one mroe thing i would like to know if possible wich

planet has given me a major poblem as someone says its saturn someone says

other. I am really confused about this.

12.0pt">Regards

12.0pt">Jaspal

12.0pt">

Visti Larsen

<visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote:

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|Hare Rama

Krsna|

Dear List,

Namaskar.

Kalyan Verma

of Saravali specifically states that if Saturn is strong there will be more

sorrow, whilst if Saturn is weak there will be less.

Now what

confuses people is what is meant by strong. In that specific example,

Kalyan Verma is talking about the houses (gagana=sky or bha-chakra).

So now one

should know the strong houses:

l0 level1 lfo5">a) Saturn

being placed in a quadrant is inauspicious

l0 level1 lfo5">b) Saturn

being placed in debilitation is again very inauspicious

l0 level1 lfo5">c) Debilitated

Saturn in quadrants is auspicious, and can cause Rajya Yoga. However this Rajya

Yoga is caused at a specific cost.

10.0pt">

10.0pt">Hope this helps,

bold">Visti Larsen

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19 October 2004 13:09

Re: [sJC: Achyuta

Gurukul] Saturn strong-Miserable, saturn weak-Miserable, when saturn is

beneficial?

12.0pt">

Dear Shri Jagannathanji,

I too would like to know more about Saturn. What

if Saturn is retro,

exalted and in the 6th House? Does it act as a

debilitated planet or

is it strong?

I have some personal experience about this.

I would also like to know whether the 3rd drishti

of Saturn

can "mutate" planets over time.

Shall be grateful for your comments.

Regards,

Vinita

, sumanth

krishna

<sanji_sumanth> wrote:

> Thanks for your reply

>

> my birth details.

> |DOB-12-03-1983

> time-03.42am

> place-Bangalore(india,karnataka)

>

> Sumanth

>

> kapisthalam jagannathan

<jagannathankr> wrote:

> Dear Sir,

> If you can kimdly mail your birth details we

may try to analyse and

see.

> Regards,

> jagannathan.

>

> sumanth krishna <sanji_sumanth>

wrote:

> Respected Astrologers,

>

> Many say that, a strong saturn in a natives

horoscope is also a

problem(give more miseries) and a weak saturn in a

natives horosocpe

also gives miseries and many say sasa yoga is also

painful why?

>

> As a learner of astrology, this has become a

unsolved puzzle for me

that when to say saturn is benefical.Does Saturn

proves benefical

when he is Yogakraka, and Lagnadhipathi(for

Capricorn lagna, Aquaris

lagna ) and is also powerfully placed both in

navamsa and rashi.

>

> My thinking is if the cause of Miseries is

strong then no quesiton

of problems(related to its karakatwa) in the

horosocpe.

>

> If my thinking is wrong, please astrologers

correct me

>

> Hope i get answer

>

> Sumanth

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October 19, 2004

Thanks for your reply. Yes sir i am suffering a health problem since my

childhood. But not setteled in career also. have changed many times Still dont

know which line i should choose. Can you help me in this regard

Thanks

JaspalVisti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote:

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Dear Jaspal, Namaskar.

Saturn in Lagna in Taurus will cause serious health issues – especially in

childhood, and force the family to move away from your birthplace. Is health a

major problem?

Libra Näräyaëa Dasa after 2000 would have caused a lot of problems at work and

bad name due to fights and battles.

Also a change of residence is expected during 2000-2010.

Best wishes,

Visti Larsenvisti (AT) (DOT) org

Jaspal Kaur [jaspaljkaur ] 19 October 2004 15:05To:

Subject: RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Saturn

strong-Miserable, saturn weak-Miserable, when saturn is beneficial?

Respected Astrologers