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Dear Sat Siri and all,

 

I have a question about Sarvatobhadra Chakra.

 

How do we determine if a planet is going at a normal, and not accelerated

speed? Have you had a chance to check out if the vedhas only seem to work,

or only work well, in the direction indicated by the planetary motion ?(

retrograde, forward, and hind).

 

This is such a great tool we learned in California for Sanjay this summer,

I'm trying to learn to use it as well.

 

Thanks, and Blessings,

Willa

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Namaste Willa,

 

There are different theories about vedhas, and probably we need to

do more research to establish certainty. The most liberal theory is

that planets make vedhas in all 3 directions front back and across

and all are effective.

Variation on this theory says only luminaries and nodes are

effective in all 3 directions.

The less liberal theory is that the vedha depends on the speed.

The speed must be found from a program that tells you daily speed of

planets. (Sri Jyoti Star is one that does) Of course retrograde is

retrograde. Sun and Moon are always considered accelerated. For

the rest, question is where does normal end and accelerated begin.

Here is a table of speeds:

 

Planet Speed at which acceleration speed begins

 

Mars 39 min 1 sec or 39.017 min per day

Merc 104 min 46 sec or 1.746 degrees per day

Jup 12 min 22 sec or .20611 degree per day

Ven 73 min 43 sec or 1.19528 deg per day

Sat 7 min 27 sec or 7.45 min per day

 

Even going further, one author says rasi aspect or drishti is

like when you are looking at a building from a distance; you see it

is there. Vedha is when you have binoculars and can look inside the

rooms of the building. He says that unless rasi aspect is there

vedha does not count. So that is the least liberal interpretation

of vedha: not only must it be in the singular direction determined

by the planet's speed, but there must also be a rasi aspect on the

place.

 

That's why for Kerry I became concerned about his Venus vedha on

Sun. By speed it does not happen, nor is there a rasi aspect.

 

Must say, however, after last nights successful debate I want to

rethink the interpretation! (A wise leader knows when to change

course :>)) ) One bad fact for the Bush SBC that could overrule

all the good stuff is this: the Moon on Election Day transits

a "Set" nakshatra. Sanjay ji pointed out how important it is when a

transit of a factor, especially pertaining to finance, is going

through the side of the SBC square where the Natal Sun of the person

is. That entire side of the SBC is considered "set" as in "sunset"

and can get no traction financially. Moon on Election Day is in

Ardra untill mid afternoon and then in Punarvasu, and is Set for

Bush (not for Kerry). It winds up in Punarvasu as the results are

known, on Bush's exact Natal Sun and puts vedha on his 27th

nakshatra which is Desha or Country. Now if we apply the

Conservative reading, there is no Vedha because there is no aspect

from actual Gemini---Punarvasu to Utt Phalguni where Desha is. So

where there should be a connection there is not. Set Moon coming on

Bush's natal Sun??? Bad??????

 

also, that Bush AK Venus in coronation (28th) Abhishekha nakshatra

happens to be debilitated and with its enemy Jupiter

 

interested to hear other opinions

 

be well

Sat Nam

Sat Siri

 

 

, "Willa Keizer, C.C.H."

<willa@h...> wrote:

> Dear Sat Siri and all,

>

> I have a question about Sarvatobhadra Chakra.

>

> How do we determine if a planet is going at a normal, and not

accelerated

> speed? Have you had a chance to check out if the vedhas only seem

to work,

> or only work well, in the direction indicated by the planetary

motion ?(

> retrograde, forward, and hind).

>

> This is such a great tool we learned in California for Sanjay this

summer,

> I'm trying to learn to use it as well.

>

> Thanks, and Blessings,

> Willa

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Namaste Sat Siri,

 

Thanks so much for the clarification. This is very helpful.

 

Since Jupiter is karaka of good fortune, how will it affect

debilitated Venus? It seems like it should be good for Venus overall.

 

I wouldn't think the aspect of the moon would be bad, just becasue

it is in the "set" side of the square.

 

 

Just my humble neophyte thoughts. I'd love to learn more.

 

Willa

 

 

>

> Namaste Willa,

>

> There are different theories about vedhas, and probably we need to

> do more research to establish certainty. The most liberal theory

is

> that planets make vedhas in all 3 directions front back and

across

> and all are effective.

> Variation on this theory says only luminaries and nodes are

> effective in all 3 directions.

> The less liberal theory is that the vedha depends on the

speed.

> The speed must be found from a program that tells you daily speed

of

> planets. (Sri Jyoti Star is one that does) Of course retrograde

is

> retrograde. Sun and Moon are always considered accelerated. For

> the rest, question is where does normal end and accelerated

begin.

> Here is a table of speeds:

>

> Planet Speed at which acceleration speed begins

>

> Mars 39 min 1 sec or 39.017 min per day

> Merc 104 min 46 sec or 1.746 degrees per day

> Jup 12 min 22 sec or .20611 degree per day

> Ven 73 min 43 sec or 1.19528 deg per day

> Sat 7 min 27 sec or 7.45 min per day

>

> Even going further, one author says rasi aspect or drishti is

> like when you are looking at a building from a distance; you see

it

> is there. Vedha is when you have binoculars and can look inside

the

> rooms of the building. He says that unless rasi aspect is there

> vedha does not count. So that is the least liberal

interpretation

> of vedha: not only must it be in the singular direction

determined

> by the planet's speed, but there must also be a rasi aspect on the

> place.

>

> That's why for Kerry I became concerned about his Venus vedha on

> Sun. By speed it does not happen, nor is there a rasi aspect.

>

> Must say, however, after last nights successful debate I want

to

> rethink the interpretation! (A wise leader knows when to change

> course :>)) ) One bad fact for the Bush SBC that could

overrule

> all the good stuff is this: the Moon on Election Day transits

> a "Set" nakshatra. Sanjay ji pointed out how important it is when

a

> transit of a factor, especially pertaining to finance, is going

> through the side of the SBC square where the Natal Sun of the

person

> is. That entire side of the SBC is considered "set" as

in "sunset"

> and can get no traction financially. Moon on Election Day is in

> Ardra untill mid afternoon and then in Punarvasu, and is Set for

> Bush (not for Kerry). It winds up in Punarvasu as the results are

> known, on Bush's exact Natal Sun and puts vedha on his 27th

> nakshatra which is Desha or Country. Now if we apply the

> Conservative reading, there is no Vedha because there is no aspect

> from actual Gemini---Punarvasu to Utt Phalguni where Desha is. So

> where there should be a connection there is not. Set Moon coming

on

> Bush's natal Sun??? Bad??????

>

> also, that Bush AK Venus in coronation (28th) Abhishekha nakshatra

> happens to be debilitated and with its enemy Jupiter

>

> interested to hear other opinions

>

> be well

> Sat Nam

> Sat Siri

>

>

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