Guest guest Posted May 11, 2004 Report Share Posted May 11, 2004 Om Gurave Namah Dear Swee, My responses… Swee: Then in the beginning of Kali Yuga, the Lord will appear as Lord Buddha, the son of Anjaneya in the province of Gayaa, just for the purpose of deluding those who are envious of the faithful theist. Lakshmi: Well, I always thought that Gautama Buddha was born to King Suddhodana !! Swee: The Bhagavad Gita states that the Lord incarnates whenever there is a decline of our noble/moral values and vile and wicked acts take an upper hand. These incarnations come in the mortal form. Ravana was to be slain by a man, so HE came in that mortal form. Lakshmi: When Ravana sought the boon of deathlessness, out of sheer disdain, he did not include both Nara (man ) and Vaanara (monkey) in the list of those who could not kill him. Involvement of these two, i.e., nara and vaanara would cause the downfall of Ravana, hence, a whole host of devas came in the form of monkeys to help Rama in killing Ravana. All of them, whether you call them gods or demi-gods, are various manifestations of a Higher Energy, which came together for the sake of dharma and ridding the earth of demons. Swee: What you have missed is that the penance from Hiranyakashipu was so great that even Demi Gods feared him after he was given a boon. Hanuman was not one of the Great Avataras of the Great Unsullied Lord but nevertheless, he is a Demi God. Both Ravana and Hiranyakashipu asked for boons that were not infallible to the main Avataras of the Lord. Lakshmi: Yes, Swee you are very correct. Infact, this was precisely the point that I kept in mind when I suggested Hanuman worship and not Narasimha worship. I presume a person would not use a medicine indended to cure brain cancer for a normal head ache, however painful it might be. Why talk about brain cancer, even the medicine prescribed for migraine would be quite different from the Anacin pill we routinely pop in for tackling an occasional headache. What Tina had reported obviously pertains to an unhappy soul, who is unlikely to grow into another Hiranyakashyapa. What that distressed and wayward soul badly needs is a direction, which Hanuman, as the Son of Vaayu can easily provide. The Bhagavan need not be troubled for a job, which is assigned to and can easily be handled by the Bhakta. Only if the Bhakta (Hanuman) proves unequal to the task, then the supreme power of Narayana can be invoked. And, if Rama naama is there, and Hanuman is there, will Rama Himself not be there? Had not the Lord said this… "naaham vasaami vaikunthe na yogi hridaye…. Madbhaktha yatra gaayanthi tatra tishtaami Naarada" That He would stay neither in Vaikuntha or in the hearts of yogis. He would stay where his devotees sing of him in ecstasy". Remember Chaitanya Mahaprabhu? Swee: In the genealogy, the decending order from Vishnu was Brahma who came in the form of Vasishtha. His son was Shakti who begot a son by the name of Parashara. Shakti was eaten by a demon and Prashara in obstinate hatred performed a yagna that was so great he even burnt innocent rakshasas. With his grandfather's advice, Parashara abandoned his wrath and was blessed jointly by Pulastya to be the author of Puraana Samhita. Thus Parashara became the best of the Guru Parampara. You will see chanting of the mantras to Agni Deva by Parashara (Vishnu Purana)………. So according to your reasoning, we should be following his instructions on remedies as he is from this Yuga. Yes? If affirmative, then why do we have any need to go out of Parashara Muni's instructions ( which we are) by recommending alternative remedies? We also need to ask ourselves what are we striving to instruct - Sattvic, Rajasic or Tamasic literature? Lakshmi: Swee, invocation to Agni is very much pertinent even now. Agni is the energy we invest in action. Every act we perform is a yagnya, every thought of ours is a yagnya. This birth is a yagna and the death too is a yagnya and all the karma we commit in between the two is a yagnya. It is either antar yagnya or bahir yagnya or both of them together. There is no other way. That is the level of sanctity /purity attached by the Maharishis to human life and its conduct. Infact, that understanding is very relevant even now, perhaps more than ever before. My earlier reference to yuga was only because I thought you were questioning that why Narasimha had to kill Hiranyakashipu and not Hanuman, and not in any other context. The worship of Shiva, Durga, Skandha, Ganesha etc was also recommended by Parashara. While on the topic of puranas, I hope you are not forgetting Brahma purana, Linga puran, Skandha purana among the 18 mahapuranas? And Swee, finally, it is the purpose and the intent behind the prayer that decides whether something is tamasic, rajasic or sattvik. Kaali is supposed to be a tamasic aspect of Mother, but to Sri Ramakrishna and to the millions of Bengalis who worship Her, She is as tame as Lalitha Devi or Tripura sundari. They can see the laughter lurking behind Her protruding tongue and infinite compassion behind Her fearsome countenance. She is Mother, that's all…it is we who impute those gunas to her. Hinduism is a rich tapestry of kaleidoscopic thoughts and beliefs but with Perfect Amity at its core, and I wouldn't trade its vigorous variety with any other watered down version. In Sri Chakra, there are countless trikonas, Chatushkonas etc, but they all converge on the Purna Bindu at the center… as all the colours converge in white Sunlight. When seen through rain, the colours do separate, but then that makes for beautiful rainbows, na? I daresy that one day All that Beauty will lead us to the truth. Swee: If I've hit on a nerve, I promise to refrain from further discussions. But do wish me luck for tomorrow's day long Bridge Tournament J Lakshmi: Swee, it is always a pleasure to get a response from a learned person like you, and you do know that I hold you in high esteem. Ofcourse, I may not agree with all that you say. But then there is no compulsion also that we need to agree on all matters, we can disagree and still be friends, right? BTW, how did the tournament go? I couldn't write earlier as I myself went to Tirumala for two days. Love, Lakshmi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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