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Dear Learned Members,

Can u pls explain the meaning of Karakamsa - what is the literal meaning and

what is the esoteric meaning of it.

 

But i have been thinking about it for some time and feel that there is more to

the meaning of Karakamsa which I do not know.

 

I do know only this much which is that where AK sits in the D9, that becomes

Karakamsa lagna and also 12th from it shows the Istha Devata. But I feel there

could be more uses to the application of Karakamsa Lagna , pls guide

 

 

Thanks,

 

With Blessings of the Divine Mother

 

Sunil JohnMumbai

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Dear Sunil John,

 

The planetary significations (karakatwas) are discussed in Brihat

Parasara Hora Sastra, chapter 34 (Sharma translation) and the

karakamsha in chapter 35. The amsha means division and when

pertaining to the atmakaraka in the navamsha becomes karakamsha. So

this is the signification of the self in the ninth division

indicating dharma in general. But the navamahsa is significant also

because there are nine grahas and this division is by 9 so it may be

of more general use when interpreting.

 

There are several determinations that may be made from the karakamsha

as given in BPHS:

1. effect of karakamsha in each sign

2. benefic influences only on the karamamsha and navamsha lagna.

3. atma karaka in divisions of Moon, Mars, Venus.

4. effects of each of the planets or Gulika in the karamamsha

5. effects of each of the 12 houses from karakamsha

6. effects of planets and aspects relative to the karakamsha

 

Sincerely, Dhamakesin

 

, "Sunil John"

<suniljohn_2004@h...> wrote:

> Dear Learned Members,

> Can u pls explain the meaning of Karakamsa - what is the literal

meaning and what is the esoteric meaning of it.

>

> But i have been thinking about it for some time and feel that there

is more to the meaning of Karakamsa which I do not know.

>

> I do know only this much which is that where AK sits in the D9,

that becomes Karakamsa lagna and also 12th from it shows the Istha

Devata. But I feel there could be more uses to the application of

Karakamsa Lagna , pls guide

>

>

> Thanks,

>

> With Blessings of the Divine Mother

>

> Sunil John

> Mumbai

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||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Maja, Namaskar

My AK lords the 4th house in d1 chart

so one of my contributions to the world is taking others out of

sorrow/shock/darkness – this I do through astrology, and hopefully this

will make up for any other curses I have to experience.

 

Now when Cancer is the AK-sign in D9 or AK

is Moon or joined the Moon in D9, then just like Soma one will steel the wife

of Brihaspati (Tara) and get cursed for this by Shiva. My Cancer karakamsa has

one way or the other got me into situations where the partner either recently

ended a relationship with someone else, or was still in a relationship with

someone else. And this has happened to me twice without me knowing until much

later, and notably in Moon and Rahu antara dasas. Even when I was in a regular

relationship during a Ketu antara dasa, the partner had some peculiar

relationship with an ex-partner which I had suspicions about was going on

before I entered the picture.

 

So if you find a chart with Cancer as the karakamsa,

be sure to warn them about this. A general prediction is that the native has

relationships with married people.

Maybe my partners ex-partner had Jupiters

signs as their karakamsa or jupiter as ak!

 

But that’s karma – so I worship

Somanath (Shiva as the lord of the Moon), to avoid these things from happening.

 

Best wishes,

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Dear Guru Visti,

Seems you really have chalenges in this

lifetime-not only Rh as AK -

"must to" stay of clean heart even might

get cheated by others,but

even to be deeply carryng for others and

comapssionate(cancer).

(something like apostolic- ofer a right cheek when

you get punch in

left:)

By the way what's so wrong indicated with Mo being

AK that

one "should watch out"??

Mine AK in Gemini would teach me watch out what I

talk,write?(oops)

Best wishes

Maja

, "Visti

Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Maja, Namaskar

>

> Simply brilliant! You got it!

>

> If Mars is AK then you beat everyone up and

could not control your

temper…

> maybe your karakamsa was in Scorpio or Aries

in the past life. So

in this

> life Mars will punish you and make everyone

angry with you until

you one day

> learn to give in and stop fighting.

>

> Point is that what about the AK in your next

life? This will be

indicated by

> the karakamsa sign… I have Cancer as

the sign, so if I don't watch

out I may

> be reborn with Moon as AK? This is why

Jaimini and Paraçara where

not

> concerned about the AK-planets indications

but only the Ak-signs.

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> <http://srigaruda.com>

http://srigaruda.com

>

> <visti@s...> visti@s...

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> Maja [vakelim]

> 30 December 2004 21:29

>

> Re: [Om Krishna

Guru] Moksha

>

>

>

>

> Dear Guru Visti,

>

> Exuse my interupt in conversation,just I have

one question on

> subject you mentioned:

>

>

> > [Visti] the karakamsa sign will show how

you tend to affect

others

> in this

> > birth. If you do something wrong you

will suffer from this in a

> next birth.

> > So the sign shows the actions you do in

this birth whilst the

> planet shows

> > what you did in the last.

> >

> >

> -while reading some other explainings on role

of AK,I understood

it

> usualy being conected in sense-"what one

should do,must to" in

order

> to keep on right direction in this life.

> But does this always come like one took

something of wrong way on

> graha indicating AK before? for example

> -Ma-ahimsa now,but does it mean violent

before,Me- must be

> truthful,but did oposit before?

> or how else to understand that :> what you

did in the last

>

> Regards

> Maja

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the

Achyuta Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra

'Hare Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar

the Great who said

that the

> human stomach should not become a graveyard

for animals.

> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do

one free chart

reading today

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Rama Krishna'

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Dear Visti Gurudev, Namaste,

 

What is the significance of the Karakamsa being Taurus? My AK (Rahu)

is in Taurus in Navamsa and Rahu lords the 8th house in d1. Pray

tell me what my contribution should be?

 

Regards,

Sreelatha

 

, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Maja, Namaskar

>

> My AK lords the 4th house in d1 chart so one of my contributions

to the

> world is taking others out of sorrow/shock/darkness – this I do

through

> astrology, and hopefully this will make up for any other curses I

have to

> experience.

>

>

>

> Now when Cancer is the AK-sign in D9 or AK is Moon or joined the

Moon in D9,

> then just like Soma one will steel the wife of Brihaspati (Tara)

and get

> cursed for this by Shiva. My Cancer karakamsa has one way or the

other got

> me into situations where the partner either recently ended a

relationship

> with someone else, or was still in a relationship with someone

else. And

> this has happened to me twice without me knowing until much later,

and

> notably in Moon and Rahu antara dasas. Even when I was in a regular

> relationship during a Ketu antara dasa, the partner had some

peculiar

> relationship with an ex-partner which I had suspicions about was

going on

> before I entered the picture.

>

>

>

> So if you find a chart with Cancer as the karakamsa, be sure to

warn them

> about this. A general prediction is that the native has

relationships with

> married people.

>

> Maybe my partners ex-partner had Jupiters signs as their karakamsa

or

> jupiter as ak!

>

>

>

> But that's karma – so I worship Somanath (Shiva as the lord of the

Moon), to

> avoid these things from happening.

>

>

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> http://srigaruda.com

>

> <visti@s...> visti@s...

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> Maja [vakelim]

> 30 December 2004 22:27

>

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Moksha

>

>

>

>

> Dear Guru Visti,

>

> Seems you really have chalenges in this lifetime-not only Rh as

AK -

> "must to" stay of clean heart even might get cheated by others,but

> even to be deeply carryng for others and comapssionate(cancer).

> (something like apostolic- ofer a right cheek when you get punch

in

> left:)

>

> By the way what's so wrong indicated with Mo being AK that

> one "should watch out"??

> Mine AK in Gemini would teach me watch out what I talk,write?(oops)

>

> Best wishes

> Maja

>

>

> , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> wrote:

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Maja, Namaskar

> >

> > Simply brilliant! You got it!

> >

> > If Mars is AK then you beat everyone up and could not control

your

> temper…

> > maybe your karakamsa was in Scorpio or Aries in the past life.

So

> in this

> > life Mars will punish you and make everyone angry with you until

> you one day

> > learn to give in and stop fighting.

> >

> > Point is that what about the AK in your next life? This will be

> indicated by

> > the karakamsa sign… I have Cancer as the sign, so if I don't

watch

> out I may

> > be reborn with Moon as AK? This is why Jaimini and Paraçara

where

> not

> > concerned about the AK-planets indications but only the Ak-signs.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com

> >

> > <visti@s...> visti@s...

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > Maja [vakelim]

> > 30 December 2004 21:29

> >

> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Moksha

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Guru Visti,

> >

> > Exuse my interupt in conversation,just I have one question on

> > subject you mentioned:

> >

> >

> > > [Visti] the karakamsa sign will show how you tend to affect

> others

> > in this

> > > birth. If you do something wrong you will suffer from this in

a

> > next birth.

> > > So the sign shows the actions you do in this birth whilst the

> > planet shows

> > > what you did in the last.

> > >

> > >

> > -while reading some other explainings on role of AK,I understood

> it

> > usualy being conected in sense-"what one should do,must to" in

> order

> > to keep on right direction in this life.

> > But does this always come like one took something of wrong way

on

> > graha indicating AK before? for example

> > -Ma-ahimsa now,but does it mean violent before,Me- must be

> > truthful,but did oposit before?

> > or how else to understand that :> what you did in the last

> >

> > Regards

> > Maja

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ~ om tat sat ~

> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

> that the

> > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

> reading today

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

that the

> human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

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Hare Krishna

Dear Sreelatha,

Im just guessing here!!!!but where is rahu placed in rasi?

Taurus in navamsa lagna is getting pleasure and or receiving troubles

from, cows etc. rahu can give many things,

but

i can think of two things,

1) dont eat meat

2) do something for cow protection

Lakshmi

 

In , "V. Sreelatha"

<venkatarama_sastry> wrote:

>

> Dear Visti Gurudev, Namaste,

>

> What is the significance of the Karakamsa being Taurus? My AK

(Rahu)

> is in Taurus in Navamsa and Rahu lords the 8th house in d1. Pray

> tell me what my contribution should be?

>

> Regards,

> Sreelatha

>

> , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> wrote:

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Maja, Namaskar

> >

> > My AK lords the 4th house in d1 chart so one of my contributions

> to the

> > world is taking others out of sorrow/shock/darkness – this I do

> through

> > astrology, and hopefully this will make up for any other curses I

> have to

> > experience.

> >

> >

> >

> > Now when Cancer is the AK-sign in D9 or AK is Moon or joined the

> Moon in D9,

> > then just like Soma one will steel the wife of Brihaspati (Tara)

> and get

> > cursed for this by Shiva. My Cancer karakamsa has one way or the

> other got

> > me into situations where the partner either recently ended a

> relationship

> > with someone else, or was still in a relationship with someone

> else. And

> > this has happened to me twice without me knowing until much

later,

> and

> > notably in Moon and Rahu antara dasas. Even when I was in a

regular

> > relationship during a Ketu antara dasa, the partner had some

> peculiar

> > relationship with an ex-partner which I had suspicions about was

> going on

> > before I entered the picture.

> >

> >

> >

> > So if you find a chart with Cancer as the karakamsa, be sure to

> warn them

> > about this. A general prediction is that the native has

> relationships with

> > married people.

> >

> > Maybe my partners ex-partner had Jupiters signs as their

karakamsa

> or

> > jupiter as ak!

> >

> >

> >

> > But that's karma – so I worship Somanath (Shiva as the lord of

the

> Moon), to

> > avoid these things from happening.

> >

> >

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > http://srigaruda.com

> >

> > <visti@s...> visti@s...

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > Maja [vakelim]

> > 30 December 2004 22:27

> >

> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Moksha

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Guru Visti,

> >

> > Seems you really have chalenges in this lifetime-not only Rh as

> AK -

> > "must to" stay of clean heart even might get cheated by

others,but

> > even to be deeply carryng for others and comapssionate(cancer).

> > (something like apostolic- ofer a right cheek when you get punch

> in

> > left:)

> >

> > By the way what's so wrong indicated with Mo being AK that

> > one "should watch out"??

> > Mine AK in Gemini would teach me watch out what I talk,write?

(oops)

> >

> > Best wishes

> > Maja

> >

> >

> > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> > wrote:

> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > >

> > > Dear Maja, Namaskar

> > >

> > > Simply brilliant! You got it!

> > >

> > > If Mars is AK then you beat everyone up and could not control

> your

> > temper…

> > > maybe your karakamsa was in Scorpio or Aries in the past life.

> So

> > in this

> > > life Mars will punish you and make everyone angry with you

until

> > you one day

> > > learn to give in and stop fighting.

> > >

> > > Point is that what about the AK in your next life? This will be

> > indicated by

> > > the karakamsa sign… I have Cancer as the sign, so if I don't

> watch

> > out I may

> > > be reborn with Moon as AK? This is why Jaimini and Paraçara

> where

> > not

> > > concerned about the AK-planets indications but only the Ak-

signs.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Visti Larsen

> > >

> > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com

> > >

> > > <visti@s...> visti@s...

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > Maja [vakelim]

> > > 30 December 2004 21:29

> > >

> > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Moksha

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Guru Visti,

> > >

> > > Exuse my interupt in conversation,just I have one question on

> > > subject you mentioned:

> > >

> > >

> > > > [Visti] the karakamsa sign will show how you tend to affect

> > others

> > > in this

> > > > birth. If you do something wrong you will suffer from this in

> a

> > > next birth.

> > > > So the sign shows the actions you do in this birth whilst the

> > > planet shows

> > > > what you did in the last.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > -while reading some other explainings on role of AK,I

understood

> > it

> > > usualy being conected in sense-"what one should do,must to" in

> > order

> > > to keep on right direction in this life.

> > > But does this always come like one took something of wrong way

> on

> > > graha indicating AK before? for example

> > > -Ma-ahimsa now,but does it mean violent before,Me- must be

> > > truthful,but did oposit before?

> > > or how else to understand that :> what you did in the last

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Maja

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ~ om tat sat ~

> > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who

said

> > that the

> > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

> > reading today

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

> that the

> > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

> reading today

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Dear Visti,Namaskar

 

Karakamsa sign shows the actions atma is prone to in this life. In

the worst case scenario this would result in determining their AK for

next birth.

 

What if someone who is aware of this and tries to minimise the damage

caused to others then what will determine their AK for next life ?

 

 

 

Regards,

Sameer

 

 

 

, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Maja, Namaskar

>

> My AK lords the 4th house in d1 chart so one of my contributions to

the

> world is taking others out of sorrow/shock/darkness – this I do

through

> astrology, and hopefully this will make up for any other curses I

have to

> experience.

>

>

>

> Now when Cancer is the AK-sign in D9 or AK is Moon or joined the

Moon in D9,

> then just like Soma one will steel the wife of Brihaspati (Tara)

and get

> cursed for this by Shiva. My Cancer karakamsa has one way or the

other got

> me into situations where the partner either recently ended a

relationship

> with someone else, or was still in a relationship with someone

else. And

> this has happened to me twice without me knowing until much later,

and

> notably in Moon and Rahu antara dasas. Even when I was in a regular

> relationship during a Ketu antara dasa, the partner had some

peculiar

> relationship with an ex-partner which I had suspicions about was

going on

> before I entered the picture.

>

>

>

> So if you find a chart with Cancer as the karakamsa, be sure to

warn them

> about this. A general prediction is that the native has

relationships with

> married people.

>

> Maybe my partners ex-partner had Jupiters signs as their karakamsa

or

> jupiter as ak!

>

>

>

> But that's karma – so I worship Somanath (Shiva as the lord of the

Moon), to

> avoid these things from happening.

>

>

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> http://srigaruda.com

>

> <visti@s...> visti@s...

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> Maja [vakelim]

> 30 December 2004 22:27

>

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Moksha

>

>

>

>

> Dear Guru Visti,

>

> Seems you really have chalenges in this lifetime-not only Rh as AK -

> "must to" stay of clean heart even might get cheated by others,but

> even to be deeply carryng for others and comapssionate(cancer).

> (something like apostolic- ofer a right cheek when you get punch in

> left:)

>

> By the way what's so wrong indicated with Mo being AK that

> one "should watch out"??

> Mine AK in Gemini would teach me watch out what I talk,write?(oops)

>

> Best wishes

> Maja

>

>

> , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> wrote:

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Maja, Namaskar

> >

> > Simply brilliant! You got it!

> >

> > If Mars is AK then you beat everyone up and could not control

your

> temper…

> > maybe your karakamsa was in Scorpio or Aries in the past life. So

> in this

> > life Mars will punish you and make everyone angry with you until

> you one day

> > learn to give in and stop fighting.

> >

> > Point is that what about the AK in your next life? This will be

> indicated by

> > the karakamsa sign… I have Cancer as the sign, so if I don't

watch

> out I may

> > be reborn with Moon as AK? This is why Jaimini and Paraçara where

> not

> > concerned about the AK-planets indications but only the Ak-signs.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com

> >

> > <visti@s...> visti@s...

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > Maja [vakelim]

> > 30 December 2004 21:29

> >

> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Moksha

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Guru Visti,

> >

> > Exuse my interupt in conversation,just I have one question on

> > subject you mentioned:

> >

> >

> > > [Visti] the karakamsa sign will show how you tend to affect

> others

> > in this

> > > birth. If you do something wrong you will suffer from this in a

> > next birth.

> > > So the sign shows the actions you do in this birth whilst the

> > planet shows

> > > what you did in the last.

> > >

> > >

> > -while reading some other explainings on role of AK,I understood

> it

> > usualy being conected in sense-"what one should do,must to" in

> order

> > to keep on right direction in this life.

> > But does this always come like one took something of wrong way on

> > graha indicating AK before? for example

> > -Ma-ahimsa now,but does it mean violent before,Me- must be

> > truthful,but did oposit before?

> > or how else to understand that :> what you did in the last

> >

> > Regards

> > Maja

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ~ om tat sat ~

> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

> that the

> > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

> reading today

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Hare Rama Krishna

 

Dear Friend,

 

Allow me to jump in...

 

May be the AK will be well positioned and in a benefic shastyamsa!

 

Hope Visti will clarify.

 

regards

viswanadham

 

On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 06:51:20 -0000, sameer_sawhney <icecoolsam wrote:

>

>

> Dear Visti,Namaskar

>

> Karakamsa sign shows the actions atma is prone to in this life. In

> the worst case scenario this would result in determining their AK for

> next birth.

>

> What if someone who is aware of this and tries to minimise the damage

> caused to others then what will determine their AK for next life ?

>

> Regards,

> Sameer

>

>

> , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> wrote:

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Maja, Namaskar

> >

> > My AK lords the 4th house in d1 chart so one of my contributions to

> the

> > world is taking others out of sorrow/shock/darkness – this I do

> through

> > astrology, and hopefully this will make up for any other curses I

> have to

> > experience.

> >

> >

> >

> > Now when Cancer is the AK-sign in D9 or AK is Moon or joined the

> Moon in D9,

> > then just like Soma one will steel the wife of Brihaspati (Tara)

> and get

> > cursed for this by Shiva. My Cancer karakamsa has one way or the

> other got

> > me into situations where the partner either recently ended a

> relationship

> > with someone else, or was still in a relationship with someone

> else. And

> > this has happened to me twice without me knowing until much later,

> and

> > notably in Moon and Rahu antara dasas. Even when I was in a regular

> > relationship during a Ketu antara dasa, the partner had some

> peculiar

> > relationship with an ex-partner which I had suspicions about was

> going on

> > before I entered the picture.

> >

> >

> >

> > So if you find a chart with Cancer as the karakamsa, be sure to

> warn them

> > about this. A general prediction is that the native has

> relationships with

> > married people.

> >

> > Maybe my partners ex-partner had Jupiters signs as their karakamsa

> or

> > jupiter as ak!

> >

> >

> >

> > But that's karma – so I worship Somanath (Shiva as the lord of the

> Moon), to

> > avoid these things from happening.

> >

> >

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > http://srigaruda.com

> >

> > <visti@s...> visti@s...

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > Maja [vakelim]

> > 30 December 2004 22:27

> >

> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Moksha

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Guru Visti,

> >

> > Seems you really have chalenges in this lifetime-not only Rh as AK -

> > "must to" stay of clean heart even might get cheated by others,but

> > even to be deeply carryng for others and comapssionate(cancer).

> > (something like apostolic- ofer a right cheek when you get punch in

> > left:)

> >

> > By the way what's so wrong indicated with Mo being AK that

> > one "should watch out"??

> > Mine AK in Gemini would teach me watch out what I talk,write?(oops)

> >

> > Best wishes

> > Maja

> >

> >

> > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> > wrote:

> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > >

> > > Dear Maja, Namaskar

> > >

> > > Simply brilliant! You got it!

> > >

> > > If Mars is AK then you beat everyone up and could not control

> your

> > temper…

> > > maybe your karakamsa was in Scorpio or Aries in the past life. So

> > in this

> > > life Mars will punish you and make everyone angry with you until

> > you one day

> > > learn to give in and stop fighting.

> > >

> > > Point is that what about the AK in your next life? This will be

> > indicated by

> > > the karakamsa sign… I have Cancer as the sign, so if I don't

> watch

> > out I may

> > > be reborn with Moon as AK? This is why Jaimini and Paraçara where

> > not

> > > concerned about the AK-planets indications but only the Ak-signs.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Visti Larsen

> > >

> > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com

> > >

> > > <visti@s...> visti@s...

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > Maja [vakelim]

> > > 30 December 2004 21:29

> > >

> > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Moksha

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Guru Visti,

> > >

> > > Exuse my interupt in conversation,just I have one question on

> > > subject you mentioned:

> > >

> > >

> > > > [Visti] the karakamsa sign will show how you tend to affect

> > others

> > > in this

> > > > birth. If you do something wrong you will suffer from this in a

> > > next birth.

> > > > So the sign shows the actions you do in this birth whilst the

> > > planet shows

> > > > what you did in the last.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > -while reading some other explainings on role of AK,I understood

> > it

> > > usualy being conected in sense-"what one should do,must to" in

> > order

> > > to keep on right direction in this life.

> > > But does this always come like one took something of wrong way on

> > > graha indicating AK before? for example

> > > -Ma-ahimsa now,but does it mean violent before,Me- must be

> > > truthful,but did oposit before?

> > > or how else to understand that :> what you did in the last

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Maja

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ~ om tat sat ~

> > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

> > that the

> > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

> > reading today

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

> that the

> > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

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> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the

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Dear Guru Visti,

 

Truly nice explanation indeed.Now I get that Kark-Chandra

problems,with AK I must agree experionced similar "relationship

problems",just I blaimed Rh before now I get is more Ch related.

 

As far for that Brihaspati-Tara story conected,it comes like we

breath in some parts of mithology stories or they actually live in

some deeper subconcious levels of ourselves.As I heared even beeing

born on 6.Tithi(when it's said Ch took Tara) person lives that kind

of story-curse of Shiva.

 

I looked for karakamsa signs explanations,but basicly when both

Jaimini and BHS mention those-it's usualy being conected to some

kind of "troubles,fears,dangers etc." one is to expirionce,so what

other sorce can we relate to have more of this inner mithology

conections to signs? Puranas?

 

And one more thing-sorry for prolongig letter:),just before it was

mentioned that Karakams as it covers AK-matters,soul directions as

difference to D1-body,how then Parasara and Jaimini have wide

explanatins on 4H as well concerning houses and way they are

constructed ?

 

Best wishes

Maja

 

, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Maja, Namaskar

>

> My AK lords the 4th house in d1 chart so one of my contributions

to the

> world is taking others out of sorrow/shock/darkness – this I do

through

> astrology, and hopefully this will make up for any other curses I

have to

> experience.

>

>

>

> Now when Cancer is the AK-sign in D9 or AK is Moon or joined the

Moon in D9,

> then just like Soma one will steel the wife of Brihaspati (Tara)

and get

> cursed for this by Shiva. My Cancer karakamsa has one way or the

other got

> me into situations where the partner either recently ended a

relationship

> with someone else, or was still in a relationship with someone

else. And

> this has happened to me twice without me knowing until much later,

and

> notably in Moon and Rahu antara dasas. Even when I was in a regular

> relationship during a Ketu antara dasa, the partner had some

peculiar

> relationship with an ex-partner which I had suspicions about was

going on

> before I entered the picture.

>

>

>

> So if you find a chart with Cancer as the karakamsa, be sure to

warn them

> about this. A general prediction is that the native has

relationships with

> married people.

>

> Maybe my partners ex-partner had Jupiters signs as their karakamsa

or

> jupiter as ak!

>

>

>

> But that's karma – so I worship Somanath (Shiva as the lord of the

Moon), to

> avoid these things from happening.

>

>

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> http://srigaruda.com

>

> <visti@s...> visti@s...

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> Maja [vakelim]

> 30 December 2004 22:27

>

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Moksha

>

>

>

>

> Dear Guru Visti,

>

> Seems you really have chalenges in this lifetime-not only Rh as

AK -

> "must to" stay of clean heart even might get cheated by others,but

> even to be deeply carryng for others and comapssionate(cancer).

> (something like apostolic- ofer a right cheek when you get punch

in

> left:)

>

> By the way what's so wrong indicated with Mo being AK that

> one "should watch out"??

> Mine AK in Gemini would teach me watch out what I talk,write?(oops)

>

> Best wishes

> Maja

>

>

> , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> wrote:

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Maja, Namaskar

> >

> > Simply brilliant! You got it!

> >

> > If Mars is AK then you beat everyone up and could not control

your

> temper…

> > maybe your karakamsa was in Scorpio or Aries in the past life.

So

> in this

> > life Mars will punish you and make everyone angry with you until

> you one day

> > learn to give in and stop fighting.

> >

> > Point is that what about the AK in your next life? This will be

> indicated by

> > the karakamsa sign… I have Cancer as the sign, so if I don't

watch

> out I may

> > be reborn with Moon as AK? This is why Jaimini and Paraçara

where

> not

> > concerned about the AK-planets indications but only the Ak-signs.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com

> >

> > <visti@s...> visti@s...

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > Maja [vakelim]

> > 30 December 2004 21:29

> >

> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Moksha

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Guru Visti,

> >

> > Exuse my interupt in conversation,just I have one question on

> > subject you mentioned:

> >

> >

> > > [Visti] the karakamsa sign will show how you tend to affect

> others

> > in this

> > > birth. If you do something wrong you will suffer from this in

a

> > next birth.

> > > So the sign shows the actions you do in this birth whilst the

> > planet shows

> > > what you did in the last.

> > >

> > >

> > -while reading some other explainings on role of AK,I understood

> it

> > usualy being conected in sense-"what one should do,must to" in

> order

> > to keep on right direction in this life.

> > But does this always come like one took something of wrong way

on

> > graha indicating AK before? for example

> > -Ma-ahimsa now,but does it mean violent before,Me- must be

> > truthful,but did oposit before?

> > or how else to understand that :> what you did in the last

> >

> > Regards

> > Maja

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ~ om tat sat ~

> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

> that the

> > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

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Re: [Om Krishna

Guru] Re: Karakamsa

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10.0pt">Hare Rama Krishna

Dear Friend,

Allow me to jump in...

May be the AK will be well positioned and in a

benefic shastyamsa!

Hope Visti will clarify.

regards

viswanadham

On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 06:51:20 -0000, sameer_sawhney

<icecoolsam (AT) vsnl (DOT) net> wrote:

>

>

> Dear Visti,Namaskar

>

> Karakamsa sign shows the actions atma is

prone to in this life. In

> the worst case scenario this would result in

determining their AK for

> next birth.

>

> What if someone who is aware of this and

tries to minimise the damage

> caused to others then what will determine

their AK for next life ?

>

> Regards,

> Sameer

>

>

> ,

"Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> wrote:

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Maja, Namaskar

> >

> > My AK lords the 4th house in d1 chart so

one of my contributions to

> the

> > world is taking others out of

sorrow/shock/darkness – this I do

> through

> > astrology, and hopefully this will make

up for any other curses I

> have to

> > experience.

> >

> >

> >

> > Now when Cancer is the AK-sign in D9 or

AK is Moon or joined the

> Moon in D9,

> > then just like Soma one will steel the

wife of Brihaspati (Tara)

> and get

> > cursed for this by Shiva. My Cancer

karakamsa has one way or the

> other got

> > me into situations where the partner

either recently ended a

> relationship

> > with someone else, or was still in a

relationship with someone

> else. And

> > this has happened to me twice without me

knowing until much later,

> and

> > notably in Moon and Rahu antara dasas.

Even when I was in a regular

> > relationship during a Ketu antara dasa,

the partner had some

> peculiar

> > relationship with an ex-partner which I

had suspicions about was

> going on

> > before I entered the picture.

> >

> >

> >

> > So if you find a chart with Cancer as

the karakamsa, be sure to

> warn them

> > about this. A general prediction is that

the native has

> relationships with

> > married people.

> >

> > Maybe my partners ex-partner had

Jupiters signs as their karakamsa

> or

> > jupiter as ak!

> >

> >

> >

> > But that's karma – so I worship Somanath

(Shiva as the lord of the

> Moon), to

> > avoid these things from happening.

> >

> >

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > http://srigaruda.com

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> > Maja [vakelim]

> > 30 December 2004 22:27

> >

> > Re: [Om Krishna

Guru] Moksha

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Guru Visti,

> >

> > Seems you really have chalenges in this

lifetime-not only Rh as AK -

> > "must to" stay of clean heart

even might get cheated by others,but

> > even to be deeply carryng for others and

comapssionate(cancer).

> > (something like apostolic- ofer a right

cheek when you get punch in

> > left:)

> >

> > By the way what's so wrong indicated

with Mo being AK that

> > one "should watch out"??

> > Mine AK in Gemini would teach me watch

out what I talk,write?(oops)

> >

> > Best wishes

> > Maja

> >

> >

> > ,

"Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> > wrote:

> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > >

> > > Dear Maja, Namaskar

> > >

> > > Simply brilliant! You got it!

> > >

> > > If Mars is AK then you beat

everyone up and could not control

> your

> > temper…

> > > maybe your karakamsa was in Scorpio

or Aries in the past life. So

> > in this

> > > life Mars will punish you and make

everyone angry with you until

> > you one day

> > > learn to give in and stop fighting.

> > >

> > > Point is that what about the AK in

your next life? This will be

> > indicated by

> > > the karakamsa sign… I have Cancer

as the sign, so if I don't

> watch

> > out I may

> > > be reborn with Moon as AK? This is

why Jaimini and Paraçara where

> > not

> > > concerned about the AK-planets

indications but only the Ak-signs.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Visti Larsen

> > >

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> > > Maja [vakelim]

> > > 30 December 2004 21:29

> > >

> > > Re: [Om Krishna

Guru] Moksha

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Guru Visti,

> > >

> > > Exuse my interupt in

conversation,just I have one question on

> > > subject you mentioned:

> > >

> > >

> > > > [Visti] the karakamsa sign

will show how you tend to affect

> > others

> > > in this

> > > > birth. If you do something

wrong you will suffer from this in a

> > > next birth.

> > > > So the sign shows the actions

you do in this birth whilst the

> > > planet shows

> > > > what you did in the last.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > -while reading some other

explainings on role of AK,I understood

> > it

> > > usualy being conected in

sense-"what one should do,must to" in

> > order

> > > to keep on right direction in this

life.

> > > But does this always come like one

took something of wrong way on

> > > graha indicating AK before? for

example

> > > -Ma-ahimsa now,but does it mean

violent before,Me- must be

> > > truthful,but did oposit before?

> > > or how else to understand that

:> what you did in the last

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Maja

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ~ om tat sat ~

> > > Thank you for maintaining the

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Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian -

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> > that the

> > > human stomach should not become a

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Dear Visti, Namaskar

 

Is it ok to generalize the contributions based on AK lordship? What if it lords

a dusthana as 12H in my case?

 

Regards

Ramesh

Visti Larsen

[visti (AT) (DOT) org]Friday, December 31, 2004 2:12 AMTo:

Subject: [Om Krishna Guru] RE: Karakamsa

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Maja, Namaskar

My AK lords the 4th house in d1 chart so one of my contributions to the world is

taking others out of sorrow/shock/darkness – this I do through astrology, and

hopefully this will make up for any other curses I have to experience.

 

Now when Cancer is the AK-sign in D9 or AK is Moon or joined the Moon in D9,

then just like Soma one will steel the wife of Brihaspati (Tara) and get cursed

for this by Shiva. My Cancer karakamsa has one way or the other got me into

situations where the partner either recently ended a relationship with someone

else, or was still in a relationship with someone else. And this has happened

to me twice without me knowing until much later, and notably in Moon and Rahu

antara dasas. Even when I was in a regular relationship during a Ketu antara

dasa, the partner had some peculiar relationship with an ex-partner which I had

suspicions about was going on before I entered the picture.

 

So if you find a chart with Cancer as the karakamsa, be sure to warn them about

this. A general prediction is that the native has relationships with married

people.

Maybe my partners ex-partner had Jupiters signs as their karakamsa or jupiter as ak!

 

But that’s karma – so I worship Somanath (Shiva as the lord of the Moon), to

avoid these things from happening.

 

Best wishes,

Visti Larsen

http://srigaruda.com

visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

 

 

Maja [vakelim ] 30 December 2004 22:27To:

Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Moksha

 

Dear Guru Visti,Seems you really have chalenges in this lifetime-not only Rh as

AK -"must to" stay of clean heart even might get cheated by others,but even to

be deeply carryng for others and comapssionate(cancer).(something like

apostolic- ofer a right cheek when you get punch in left:)By the way what's so

wrong indicated with Mo being AK that one "should watch out"??Mine AK in Gemini

would teach me watch out what I talk,write?(oops)Best wishes Maja--- In

, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote:> ||Hare Rama

Krsna||> > Dear Maja, Namaskar> > Simply brilliant! You got it!> > If Mars is

AK then you beat everyone up and could not control your temper…> maybe your

karakamsa was in Scorpio or Aries in the past life. So in this> life Mars will

punish you and make everyone angry with you until you one day> learn to give in

and stop fighting.> > Point is that what about the AK in your next life? This

will be indicated by> the karakamsa sign… I have Cancer as the sign, so if I

don't watch out I may> be reborn with Moon as AK? This is why Jaimini and

Paraçara where not> concerned about the AK-planets indications but only the

Ak-signs.> > Best wishes,> > > > > Visti Larsen> > <http://srigaruda.com>

http://srigaruda.com> > <visti@s...> visti@s... > > > > > > _____

> > Maja [vakelim] > 30 December 2004 21:29> To:

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Moksha> > > > >

Dear Guru Visti,> > Exuse my interupt in conversation,just I have one question

on > subject you mentioned: > > > > [Visti] the karakamsa sign will show how you

tend to affect others > in this> > birth. If you do something wrong you will

suffer from this in a > next birth.> > So the sign shows the actions you do in

this birth whilst the > planet shows> > what you did in the last.> > > > >

-while reading some other explainings on role of AK,I understood it > usualy

being conected in sense-"what one should do,must to" in order > to keep on

right direction in this life.> But does this always come like one took

something of wrong way on > graha indicating AK before? for example> -Ma-ahimsa

now,but does it mean violent before,Me- must be > truthful,but did oposit

before?> or how else to understand that :> what you did in the last> > Regards

> Maja> > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of

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Krishna'> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that

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Dear Maja, Namaskar

Since your mail deals with many of the

questions of list members, I will answer the questions in the comments below.

Best wishes,

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31 December 2004 11:48

 

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Dear Guru Visti,

Truly nice explanation indeed.Now I get that

Kark-Chandra

problems,with AK I must agree experionced similar

"relationship

problems",just I blaimed Rh before now I get

is more Ch related.

As far for that Brihaspati-Tara story conected,it

comes like we

breath in some parts of mithology stories or they

actually live in

some deeper subconcious levels of ourselves.As I

heared even beeing

born on 6.Tithi(when it's said Ch took Tara) person lives that kind

of story-curse of Shiva.

font-style:italic">[Visti] I remember that Soma longed for Tara

on Krsna Chaturdasi (K14) and kidnapped her on amavasya (new moon). He then

repented on Pratipada (S1). These 3 Tithi are known as the combustion of the

Moon and that is why the curse of Shiva came upon the moon during this time. Similarly

other planets getting combust show the same theme – i.e. approaching

combustion is the time of committing the sin, and whilst moving away from

combustion is the penance of the same. i.e. the penance of Kaamadevata is the

combustion of Venus. So people having Taurus or Libra kärakämça could commit

the mistakes that kaamadevata did.

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I looked for karakamsa signs explanations,but

basicly when both

Jaimini and BHS mention those-it's usualy being

conected to some

kind of "troubles,fears,dangers etc."

one is to expirionce,so what

other sorce can we relate to have more of this

inner mithology

conections to signs? Puranas?

font-style:italic">[Visti] Look at my article at my website: www.srigaruda.com

and read the article on “navamsa

karma and God…” This will answer some more questions on what

exactly these signs are doing on a more mundane level. Link the two together

and know that the signs are doing that because we are making the mistakes

indicated by the sign of the AK.

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And one more thing-sorry for prolongig

letter:),just before it was

mentioned that Karakams as it covers

AK-matters,soul directions as

difference to D1-body,how then Parasara and

Jaimini have wide

explanatins on 4H as well concerning houses and

way they are

constructed ?

font-style:italic">[Visti] Jaimini specifically uses the word; svaamsa which

means Navamsa lagna, karakamsa and Chandra navamsa. This broader terminology

helps us understand what is going on at the level of body/intellect, soul and

mind respectively. i.e. the 4th from d9 lagna causes ailments to the

body, but not the 4th from moon.

font-style:italic">But this is not to say that Parasara and Mahesvara (author

of jataka Tattva) are wrong. What the atma wants is seen from the placements

from karakamsa. This is why Jaimini used a lot of short words when describing

the results; i.e. if there are malefics in 2nd from svamsa he said

poverty will be there. But point is that if this is from karakamsa, then the

soul rejects money and is born in poverty. If in 2nd from navamsa lagna

then the native experiences monetary problems due to circumstances.

font-style:italic">So just understand that the AK shows the desire of the atma.

The atma may however not attain its desires, as this depends on whether the mind

or intellect is moving in the right direction… its always this mismatch

between the mind and soul which causes problems. Infact it’s the main

cause of diseases as seen in the D-30 chart.

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Best wishes

Maja

, "Visti

Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Maja, Namaskar

>

> My AK lords the 4th house in d1 chart so one

of my contributions

to the

> world is taking others out of

sorrow/shock/darkness – this I do

through

> astrology, and hopefully this will make up

for any other curses I

have to

> experience.

>

>

>

> Now when Cancer is the AK-sign in D9 or AK is

Moon or joined the

Moon in D9,

> then just like Soma one will steel the wife

of Brihaspati (Tara)

and get

> cursed for this by Shiva. My Cancer karakamsa

has one way or the

other got

> me into situations where the partner either

recently ended a

relationship

> with someone else, or was still in a

relationship with someone

else. And

> this has happened to me twice without me

knowing until much later,

and

> notably in Moon and Rahu antara dasas. Even

when I was in a regular

> relationship during a Ketu antara dasa, the

partner had some

peculiar

> relationship with an ex-partner which I had

suspicions about was

going on

> before I entered the picture.

>

>

>

> So if you find a chart with Cancer as the

karakamsa, be sure to

warn them

> about this. A general prediction is that the

native has

relationships with

> married people.

>

> Maybe my partners ex-partner had Jupiters

signs as their karakamsa

or

> jupiter as ak!

>

>

>

> But that's karma – so I worship

Somanath (Shiva as the lord of the

Moon), to

> avoid these things from happening.

>

>

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> http://srigaruda.com

>

> <visti@s...> visti@s...

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> Maja [vakelim]

> 30 December 2004 22:27

>

> Re: [Om Krishna

Guru] Moksha

>

>

>

>

> Dear Guru Visti,

>

> Seems you really have chalenges in this

lifetime-not only Rh as

AK -

> "must to" stay of clean heart even

might get cheated by others,but

> even to be deeply carryng for others and

comapssionate(cancer).

> (something like apostolic- ofer a right cheek

when you get punch

in

> left:)

>

> By the way what's so wrong indicated with Mo

being AK that

> one "should watch out"??

> Mine AK in Gemini would teach me watch out

what I talk,write?(oops)

>

> Best wishes

> Maja

>

>

> ,

"Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> wrote:

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Maja, Namaskar

> >

> > Simply brilliant! You got it!

> >

> > If Mars is AK then you beat everyone up

and could not control

your

> temper…

> > maybe your karakamsa was in Scorpio or

Aries in the past life.

So

> in this

> > life Mars will punish you and make

everyone angry with you until

> you one day

> > learn to give in and stop fighting.

> >

> > Point is that what about the AK in your

next life? This will be

> indicated by

> > the karakamsa sign… I have Cancer

as the sign, so if I don't

watch

> out I may

> > be reborn with Moon as AK? This is why

Jaimini and Paraçara

where

> not

> > concerned about the AK-planets

indications but only the Ak-signs.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > <http://srigaruda.com>

http://srigaruda.com

> >

> > <visti@s...>

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> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

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> > 30 December 2004 21:29

> >

> > Re: [Om Krishna

Guru] Moksha

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Guru Visti,

> >

> > Exuse my interupt in conversation,just I

have one question on

> > subject you mentioned:

> >

> >

> > > [Visti] the karakamsa sign will

show how you tend to affect

> others

> > in this

> > > birth. If you do something wrong

you will suffer from this in

a

> > next birth.

> > > So the sign shows the actions you

do in this birth whilst the

> > planet shows

> > > what you did in the last.

> > >

> > >

> > -while reading some other explainings on

role of AK,I understood

> it

> > usualy being conected in

sense-"what one should do,must to" in

> order

> > to keep on right direction in this life.

> > But does this always come like one took

something of wrong way

on

> > graha indicating AK before? for example

> > -Ma-ahimsa now,but does it mean violent

before,Me- must be

> > truthful,but did oposit before?

> > or how else to understand that :>

what you did in the last

> >

> > Regards

> > Maja

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ~ om tat sat ~

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the Achyuta Ashram.

> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari

Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember

Akbar the Great who said

> that the

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Dear Lakshmi Ji,

 

Namaste, and thank you for your response. Very good suggestions. I

am a vegetarian (cannot dream of eating the cows that my Krishna

tended with love), and will look to see how I can contibute to their

welfare.

Rahu is placed in Aries in the Rasi chart.

 

Sincerely,

Sreelatha

 

, "lakshmikary"

<lakshmikary> wrote:

>

> Hare Krishna

> Dear Sreelatha,

> Im just guessing here!!!!but where is rahu placed in rasi?

> Taurus in navamsa lagna is getting pleasure and or receiving

troubles

> from, cows etc. rahu can give many things,

> but

> i can think of two things,

> 1) dont eat meat

> 2) do something for cow protection

> Lakshmi

>

> In , "V. Sreelatha"

> <venkatarama_sastry> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Visti Gurudev, Namaste,

> >

> > What is the significance of the Karakamsa being Taurus? My AK

> (Rahu)

> > is in Taurus in Navamsa and Rahu lords the 8th house in d1. Pray

> > tell me what my contribution should be?

> >

> > Regards,

> > Sreelatha

> >

> > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> > wrote:

> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > >

> > > Dear Maja, Namaskar

> > >

> > > My AK lords the 4th house in d1 chart so one of my

contributions

> > to the

> > > world is taking others out of sorrow/shock/darkness – this I

do

> > through

> > > astrology, and hopefully this will make up for any other

curses I

> > have to

> > > experience.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Now when Cancer is the AK-sign in D9 or AK is Moon or joined

the

> > Moon in D9,

> > > then just like Soma one will steel the wife of Brihaspati

(Tara)

> > and get

> > > cursed for this by Shiva. My Cancer karakamsa has one way or

the

> > other got

> > > me into situations where the partner either recently ended a

> > relationship

> > > with someone else, or was still in a relationship with someone

> > else. And

> > > this has happened to me twice without me knowing until much

> later,

> > and

> > > notably in Moon and Rahu antara dasas. Even when I was in a

> regular

> > > relationship during a Ketu antara dasa, the partner had some

> > peculiar

> > > relationship with an ex-partner which I had suspicions about

was

> > going on

> > > before I entered the picture.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > So if you find a chart with Cancer as the karakamsa, be sure

to

> > warn them

> > > about this. A general prediction is that the native has

> > relationships with

> > > married people.

> > >

> > > Maybe my partners ex-partner had Jupiters signs as their

> karakamsa

> > or

> > > jupiter as ak!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > But that's karma – so I worship Somanath (Shiva as the lord of

> the

> > Moon), to

> > > avoid these things from happening.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Visti Larsen

> > >

> > > http://srigaruda.com

> > >

> > > <visti@s...> visti@s...

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > Maja [vakelim]

> > > 30 December 2004 22:27

> > >

> > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Moksha

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Guru Visti,

> > >

> > > Seems you really have chalenges in this lifetime-not only Rh

as

> > AK -

> > > "must to" stay of clean heart even might get cheated by

> others,but

> > > even to be deeply carryng for others and comapssionate(cancer).

> > > (something like apostolic- ofer a right cheek when you get

punch

> > in

> > > left:)

> > >

> > > By the way what's so wrong indicated with Mo being AK that

> > > one "should watch out"??

> > > Mine AK in Gemini would teach me watch out what I talk,write?

> (oops)

> > >

> > > Best wishes

> > > Maja

> > >

> > >

> > > , "Visti Larsen"

<visti@s...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > >

> > > > Dear Maja, Namaskar

> > > >

> > > > Simply brilliant! You got it!

> > > >

> > > > If Mars is AK then you beat everyone up and could not

control

> > your

> > > temper…

> > > > maybe your karakamsa was in Scorpio or Aries in the past

life.

> > So

> > > in this

> > > > life Mars will punish you and make everyone angry with you

> until

> > > you one day

> > > > learn to give in and stop fighting.

> > > >

> > > > Point is that what about the AK in your next life? This will

be

> > > indicated by

> > > > the karakamsa sign… I have Cancer as the sign, so if I don't

> > watch

> > > out I may

> > > > be reborn with Moon as AK? This is why Jaimini and Paraçara

> > where

> > > not

> > > > concerned about the AK-planets indications but only the Ak-

> signs.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Visti Larsen

> > > >

> > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com

> > > >

> > > > <visti@s...> visti@s...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > _____

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> > > > Maja [vakelim]

> > > > 30 December 2004 21:29

> > > >

> > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Moksha

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Guru Visti,

> > > >

> > > > Exuse my interupt in conversation,just I have one question

on

> > > > subject you mentioned:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > [Visti] the karakamsa sign will show how you tend to

affect

> > > others

> > > > in this

> > > > > birth. If you do something wrong you will suffer from this

in

> > a

> > > > next birth.

> > > > > So the sign shows the actions you do in this birth whilst

the

> > > > planet shows

> > > > > what you did in the last.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > -while reading some other explainings on role of AK,I

> understood

> > > it

> > > > usualy being conected in sense-"what one should do,must to"

in

> > > order

> > > > to keep on right direction in this life.

> > > > But does this always come like one took something of wrong

way

> > on

> > > > graha indicating AK before? for example

> > > > -Ma-ahimsa now,but does it mean violent before,Me- must be

> > > > truthful,but did oposit before?

> > > > or how else to understand that :> what you did in the last

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Maja

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ~ om tat sat ~

> > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama

Krishna'

> > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who

> said

> > > that the

> > > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

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Dear Visti Gurudev,

 

Namaste, and thank you for the beautiful explanation. Your article

on srigaruda.com is very illuminating too, as is the caution about

the mistakes of Chandra and Kaamadeva.

 

Sincerely,

Sreelatha

 

 

, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Maja, Namaskar

>

> Since your mail deals with many of the questions of list members,

I will

> answer the questions in the comments below.

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> http://srigaruda.com

>

> <visti@s...> visti@s...

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> Maja [vakelim]

> 31 December 2004 11:48

>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Karakamsa

>

>

>

>

> Dear Guru Visti,

>

> Truly nice explanation indeed.Now I get that Kark-Chandra

> problems,with AK I must agree experionced similar "relationship

> problems",just I blaimed Rh before now I get is more Ch related.

>

> As far for that Brihaspati-Tara story conected,it comes like we

> breath in some parts of mithology stories or they actually live in

> some deeper subconcious levels of ourselves.As I heared even

beeing

> born on 6.Tithi(when it's said Ch took Tara) person lives that

kind

> of story-curse of Shiva.

>

>

>

> [Visti] I remember that Soma longed for Tara on Krsna Chaturdasi

(K14) and

> kidnapped her on amavasya (new moon). He then repented on

Pratipada (S1).

> These 3 Tithi are known as the combustion of the Moon and that is

why the

> curse of Shiva came upon the moon during this time. Similarly

other planets

> getting combust show the same theme – i.e. approaching combustion

is the

> time of committing the sin, and whilst moving away from combustion

is the

> penance of the same. i.e. the penance of Kaamadevata is the

combustion of

> Venus. So people having Taurus or Libra kärakämça could commit the

mistakes

> that kaamadevata did.

>

>

> I looked for karakamsa signs explanations,but basicly when both

> Jaimini and BHS mention those-it's usualy being conected to some

> kind of "troubles,fears,dangers etc." one is to expirionce,so what

> other sorce can we relate to have more of this inner mithology

> conections to signs? Puranas?

>

>

>

> [Visti] Look at my article at my website: www.srigaruda.com

> <http://www.srigaruda.com/> and read the article on "navamsa

karma and

> God…" This will answer some more questions on what exactly these

signs are

> doing on a more mundane level. Link the two together and know that

the signs

> are doing that because we are making the mistakes indicated by the

sign of

> the AK.

>

>

> And one more thing-sorry for prolongig letter:),just before it was

> mentioned that Karakams as it covers AK-matters,soul directions as

> difference to D1-body,how then Parasara and Jaimini have wide

> explanatins on 4H as well concerning houses and way they are

> constructed ?

>

>

>

> [Visti] Jaimini specifically uses the word; svaamsa which means

Navamsa

> lagna, karakamsa and Chandra navamsa. This broader terminology

helps us

> understand what is going on at the level of body/intellect, soul

and mind

> respectively. i.e. the 4th from d9 lagna causes ailments to the

body, but

> not the 4th from moon.

>

> But this is not to say that Parasara and Mahesvara (author of

jataka Tattva)

> are wrong. What the atma wants is seen from the placements from

karakamsa.

> This is why Jaimini used a lot of short words when describing the

results;

> i.e. if there are malefics in 2nd from svamsa he said poverty will

be there.

> But point is that if this is from karakamsa, then the soul rejects

money and

> is born in poverty. If in 2nd from navamsa lagna then the native

experiences

> monetary problems due to circumstances.

>

> So just understand that the AK shows the desire of the atma. The

atma may

> however not attain its desires, as this depends on whether the

mind or

> intellect is moving in the right direction… its always this

mismatch between

> the mind and soul which causes problems. Infact it's the main

cause of

> diseases as seen in the D-30 chart.

>

>

> Best wishes

> Maja

>

> , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> wrote:

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Maja, Namaskar

> >

> > My AK lords the 4th house in d1 chart so one of my contributions

> to the

> > world is taking others out of sorrow/shock/darkness – this I do

> through

> > astrology, and hopefully this will make up for any other curses

I

> have to

> > experience.

> >

> >

> >

> > Now when Cancer is the AK-sign in D9 or AK is Moon or joined the

> Moon in D9,

> > then just like Soma one will steel the wife of Brihaspati (Tara)

> and get

> > cursed for this by Shiva. My Cancer karakamsa has one way or the

> other got

> > me into situations where the partner either recently ended a

> relationship

> > with someone else, or was still in a relationship with someone

> else. And

> > this has happened to me twice without me knowing until much

later,

> and

> > notably in Moon and Rahu antara dasas. Even when I was in a

regular

> > relationship during a Ketu antara dasa, the partner had some

> peculiar

> > relationship with an ex-partner which I had suspicions about was

> going on

> > before I entered the picture.

> >

> >

> >

> > So if you find a chart with Cancer as the karakamsa, be sure to

> warn them

> > about this. A general prediction is that the native has

> relationships with

> > married people.

> >

> > Maybe my partners ex-partner had Jupiters signs as their

karakamsa

> or

> > jupiter as ak!

> >

> >

> >

> > But that's karma – so I worship Somanath (Shiva as the lord of

the

> Moon), to

> > avoid these things from happening.

> >

> >

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > http://srigaruda.com

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> > Maja [vakelim]

> > 30 December 2004 22:27

> >

> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Moksha

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Guru Visti,

> >

> > Seems you really have chalenges in this lifetime-not only Rh as

> AK -

> > "must to" stay of clean heart even might get cheated by

others,but

> > even to be deeply carryng for others and comapssionate(cancer).

> > (something like apostolic- ofer a right cheek when you get punch

> in

> > left:)

> >

> > By the way what's so wrong indicated with Mo being AK that

> > one "should watch out"??

> > Mine AK in Gemini would teach me watch out what I talk,write?

(oops)

> >

> > Best wishes

> > Maja

> >

> >

> > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> > wrote:

> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > >

> > > Dear Maja, Namaskar

> > >

> > > Simply brilliant! You got it!

> > >

> > > If Mars is AK then you beat everyone up and could not control

> your

> > temper…

> > > maybe your karakamsa was in Scorpio or Aries in the past life.

> So

> > in this

> > > life Mars will punish you and make everyone angry with you

until

> > you one day

> > > learn to give in and stop fighting.

> > >

> > > Point is that what about the AK in your next life? This will

be

> > indicated by

> > > the karakamsa sign… I have Cancer as the sign, so if I don't

> watch

> > out I may

> > > be reborn with Moon as AK? This is why Jaimini and Paraçara

> where

> > not

> > > concerned about the AK-planets indications but only the Ak-

signs.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Visti Larsen

> > >

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> > > 30 December 2004 21:29

> > >

> > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Moksha

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Guru Visti,

> > >

> > > Exuse my interupt in conversation,just I have one question on

> > > subject you mentioned:

> > >

> > >

> > > > [Visti] the karakamsa sign will show how you tend to affect

> > others

> > > in this

> > > > birth. If you do something wrong you will suffer from this

in

> a

> > > next birth.

> > > > So the sign shows the actions you do in this birth whilst

the

> > > planet shows

> > > > what you did in the last.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > -while reading some other explainings on role of AK,I

understood

> > it

> > > usualy being conected in sense-"what one should do,must to" in

> > order

> > > to keep on right direction in this life.

> > > But does this always come like one took something of wrong way

> on

> > > graha indicating AK before? for example

> > > -Ma-ahimsa now,but does it mean violent before,Me- must be

> > > truthful,but did oposit before?

> > > or how else to understand that :> what you did in the last

> > >

> > > Regards

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> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Dear Vistiji, Namaskar,

 

You said that the conflict between mind and soul is very often the

cause of disease as shown in the D-30. Does this mean that the

physical suffering that such an illness may cause is not the results

of past actions?

 

Or is that too simplistic – in which case it must be that the

conflict between mind and soul is the true "suffering", which is

caused by past actions. And the disease is only a manifestation of

that struggle at a subtle level.

 

Which is true?

 

Thank you,

 

Samir

 

 

, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Maja, Namaskar

>

> Since your mail deals with many of the questions of list members, I

will

> answer the questions in the comments below.

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> http://srigaruda.com

>

> <visti@s...> visti@s...

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> Maja [vakelim]

> 31 December 2004 11:48

>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Karakamsa

>

>

>

>

> Dear Guru Visti,

>

> Truly nice explanation indeed.Now I get that Kark-Chandra

> problems,with AK I must agree experionced similar "relationship

> problems",just I blaimed Rh before now I get is more Ch related.

>

> As far for that Brihaspati-Tara story conected,it comes like we

> breath in some parts of mithology stories or they actually live in

> some deeper subconcious levels of ourselves.As I heared even beeing

> born on 6.Tithi(when it's said Ch took Tara) person lives that kind

> of story-curse of Shiva.

>

>

>

> [Visti] I remember that Soma longed for Tara on Krsna Chaturdasi

(K14) and

> kidnapped her on amavasya (new moon). He then repented on Pratipada

(S1).

> These 3 Tithi are known as the combustion of the Moon and that is

why the

> curse of Shiva came upon the moon during this time. Similarly other

planets

> getting combust show the same theme – i.e. approaching combustion

is the

> time of committing the sin, and whilst moving away from combustion

is the

> penance of the same. i.e. the penance of Kaamadevata is the

combustion of

> Venus. So people having Taurus or Libra kärakämça could commit the

mistakes

> that kaamadevata did.

>

>

> I looked for karakamsa signs explanations,but basicly when both

> Jaimini and BHS mention those-it's usualy being conected to some

> kind of "troubles,fears,dangers etc." one is to expirionce,so what

> other sorce can we relate to have more of this inner mithology

> conections to signs? Puranas?

>

>

>

> [Visti] Look at my article at my website: www.srigaruda.com

> <http://www.srigaruda.com/> and read the article on "navamsa karma

and

> God…" This will answer some more questions on what exactly these

signs are

> doing on a more mundane level. Link the two together and know that

the signs

> are doing that because we are making the mistakes indicated by the

sign of

> the AK.

>

>

> And one more thing-sorry for prolongig letter:),just before it was

> mentioned that Karakams as it covers AK-matters,soul directions as

> difference to D1-body,how then Parasara and Jaimini have wide

> explanatins on 4H as well concerning houses and way they are

> constructed ?

>

>

>

> [Visti] Jaimini specifically uses the word; svaamsa which means

Navamsa

> lagna, karakamsa and Chandra navamsa. This broader terminology

helps us

> understand what is going on at the level of body/intellect, soul

and mind

> respectively. i.e. the 4th from d9 lagna causes ailments to the

body, but

> not the 4th from moon.

>

> But this is not to say that Parasara and Mahesvara (author of

jataka Tattva)

> are wrong. What the atma wants is seen from the placements from

karakamsa.

> This is why Jaimini used a lot of short words when describing the

results;

> i.e. if there are malefics in 2nd from svamsa he said poverty will

be there.

> But point is that if this is from karakamsa, then the soul rejects

money and

> is born in poverty. If in 2nd from navamsa lagna then the native

experiences

> monetary problems due to circumstances.

>

> So just understand that the AK shows the desire of the atma. The

atma may

> however not attain its desires, as this depends on whether the mind

or

> intellect is moving in the right direction… its always this

mismatch between

> the mind and soul which causes problems. Infact it's the main cause

of

> diseases as seen in the D-30 chart.

>

>

> Best wishes

> Maja

>

> , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> wrote:

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Maja, Namaskar

> >

> > My AK lords the 4th house in d1 chart so one of my contributions

> to the

> > world is taking others out of sorrow/shock/darkness – this I do

> through

> > astrology, and hopefully this will make up for any other curses I

> have to

> > experience.

> >

> >

> >

> > Now when Cancer is the AK-sign in D9 or AK is Moon or joined the

> Moon in D9,

> > then just like Soma one will steel the wife of Brihaspati (Tara)

> and get

> > cursed for this by Shiva. My Cancer karakamsa has one way or the

> other got

> > me into situations where the partner either recently ended a

> relationship

> > with someone else, or was still in a relationship with someone

> else. And

> > this has happened to me twice without me knowing until much

later,

> and

> > notably in Moon and Rahu antara dasas. Even when I was in a

regular

> > relationship during a Ketu antara dasa, the partner had some

> peculiar

> > relationship with an ex-partner which I had suspicions about was

> going on

> > before I entered the picture.

> >

> >

> >

> > So if you find a chart with Cancer as the karakamsa, be sure to

> warn them

> > about this. A general prediction is that the native has

> relationships with

> > married people.

> >

> > Maybe my partners ex-partner had Jupiters signs as their

karakamsa

> or

> > jupiter as ak!

> >

> >

> >

> > But that's karma – so I worship Somanath (Shiva as the lord of

the

> Moon), to

> > avoid these things from happening.

> >

> >

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > http://srigaruda.com

> >

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> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > Maja [vakelim]

> > 30 December 2004 22:27

> >

> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Moksha

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Guru Visti,

> >

> > Seems you really have chalenges in this lifetime-not only Rh as

> AK -

> > "must to" stay of clean heart even might get cheated by

others,but

> > even to be deeply carryng for others and comapssionate(cancer).

> > (something like apostolic- ofer a right cheek when you get punch

> in

> > left:)

> >

> > By the way what's so wrong indicated with Mo being AK that

> > one "should watch out"??

> > Mine AK in Gemini would teach me watch out what I talk,write?

(oops)

> >

> > Best wishes

> > Maja

> >

> >

> > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> > wrote:

> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > >

> > > Dear Maja, Namaskar

> > >

> > > Simply brilliant! You got it!

> > >

> > > If Mars is AK then you beat everyone up and could not control

> your

> > temper…

> > > maybe your karakamsa was in Scorpio or Aries in the past life.

> So

> > in this

> > > life Mars will punish you and make everyone angry with you

until

> > you one day

> > > learn to give in and stop fighting.

> > >

> > > Point is that what about the AK in your next life? This will be

> > indicated by

> > > the karakamsa sign… I have Cancer as the sign, so if I don't

> watch

> > out I may

> > > be reborn with Moon as AK? This is why Jaimini and Paraçara

> where

> > not

> > > concerned about the AK-planets indications but only the Ak-

signs.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Visti Larsen

> > >

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> > >

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> > >

> > >

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> > > Maja [vakelim]

> > > 30 December 2004 21:29

> > >

> > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Moksha

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Guru Visti,

> > >

> > > Exuse my interupt in conversation,just I have one question on

> > > subject you mentioned:

> > >

> > >

> > > > [Visti] the karakamsa sign will show how you tend to affect

> > others

> > > in this

> > > > birth. If you do something wrong you will suffer from this in

> a

> > > next birth.

> > > > So the sign shows the actions you do in this birth whilst the

> > > planet shows

> > > > what you did in the last.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > -while reading some other explainings on role of AK,I

understood

> > it

> > > usualy being conected in sense-"what one should do,must to" in

> > order

> > > to keep on right direction in this life.

> > > But does this always come like one took something of wrong way

> on

> > > graha indicating AK before? for example

> > > -Ma-ahimsa now,but does it mean violent before,Me- must be

> > > truthful,but did oposit before?

> > > or how else to understand that :> what you did in the last

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Maja

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ~ om tat sat ~

> > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who

said

> > that the

> > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

> > reading today

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Dear Guru Visti,

 

Thank you on your inspiring writtings both trough mails and your

articles from site.That one about Jnana yoga is real author's pearl.

I have few more questiones rised:

 

 

>Similarly other planets

> getting combust show the same theme – i.e. approaching combustion

is the

> time of committing the sin, and whilst moving away from combustion

is the

> penance of the same.

 

 

Maja -I got a bit confused here.How could closeness of Sun-Satya(in

effect of combustion) unfluence other Graha to commit sin,shouldn't

nearness of Light bring us inlight on contrarry to darkness of sin

(if Saturn is great enemy of Satya-one who promotes 'Asat'(untruth)

as you wrote-shouldnt that sadripus be his work?

-I just used simply logic here,but I may be wrong

 

 

 

> So just understand that the AK shows the desire of the atma. The

atma may

> however not attain its desires, as this depends on whether the

mind or

> intellect is moving in the right direction… its always this

mismatch between

> the mind and soul which causes problems. Infact it's the main

cause of

> diseases as seen in the D-30 chart.

>

>

>

Maja- as it's known even in nowadays medicine most of diseases come

from psihoSOMAtic roots and at very end they express as body

diseases ,so we face again that importance of mind(Soma) control in

order to keep on right/healthy tracks.But how we read that missmatch

from D30 before it float in D6,orD1?

(I know you might comment here-it's to early for this,but just few

footnotes would be helpfull:)

 

-and one more thought,when Mo happens to be AK and vargottama,we

face same influences from Chandra lagna,Karakams and Chandra navams-

so could conclusion be that there wouldn't be siriously misleading

in mind-soul directions?

 

 

Best wishes

and let New year bring all of us closer to our True Self

Maja

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||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Samir, Namaskar

Your second explanation was beautiful, and

much more conclusive. You have shown the ability to go beyond the limitations

of simple statements and derive a more complete meaning – excellent. Keep

it up.

Best wishes,

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Dear Vistiji, Namaskar,

You said that the conflict between mind and soul

is very often the

cause of disease as shown in the D-30. Does

this mean that the

physical suffering that such an illness may cause

is not the results

of past actions?

Or is that too simplistic – in which case it

must be that the

conflict between mind and soul is the true

"suffering", which is

caused by past actions. And the disease is

only a manifestation of

that struggle at a subtle level.

Which is true?

Thank you,

Samir

, "Visti

Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Maja, Namaskar

>

> Since your mail deals with many of the

questions of list members, I

will

> answer the questions in the comments below.

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> http://srigaruda.com

>

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>

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> Maja [vakelim]

> 31 December 2004 11:48

>

> [Om Krishna

Guru] Re: Karakamsa

>

>

>

>

> Dear Guru Visti,

>

> Truly nice explanation indeed.Now I get that

Kark-Chandra

> problems,with AK I must agree experionced

similar "relationship

> problems",just I blaimed Rh before now I

get is more Ch related.

>

> As far for that Brihaspati-Tara story

conected,it comes like we

> breath in some parts of mithology stories or

they actually live in

> some deeper subconcious levels of

ourselves.As I heared even beeing

> born on 6.Tithi(when it's said Ch took Tara) person lives that kind

> of story-curse of Shiva.

>

>

>

> [Visti] I remember that Soma longed for Tara on Krsna Chaturdasi

(K14) and

> kidnapped her on amavasya (new moon). He then

repented on Pratipada

(S1).

> These 3 Tithi are known as the combustion of

the Moon and that is

why the

> curse of Shiva came upon the moon during this

time. Similarly other

planets

> getting combust show the same theme –

i.e. approaching combustion

is the

> time of committing the sin, and whilst moving

away from combustion

is the

> penance of the same. i.e. the penance of

Kaamadevata is the

combustion of

> Venus. So people having Taurus or Libra

kärakämça could commit the

mistakes

> that kaamadevata did.

>

>

> I looked for karakamsa signs explanations,but

basicly when both

> Jaimini and BHS mention those-it's usualy

being conected to some

> kind of "troubles,fears,dangers

etc." one is to expirionce,so what

> other sorce can we relate to have more of

this inner mithology

> conections to signs? Puranas?

>

>

>

> [Visti] Look at my article at my website:

www.srigaruda.com

> <http://www.srigaruda.com/>

and read the article on "navamsa karma

and

> God…" This will answer some more

questions on what exactly these

signs are

> doing on a more mundane level. Link the two

together and know that

the signs

> are doing that because we are making the

mistakes indicated by the

sign of

> the AK.

>

>

> And one more thing-sorry for prolongig

letter:),just before it was

> mentioned that Karakams as it covers

AK-matters,soul directions as

> difference to D1-body,how then Parasara and

Jaimini have wide

> explanatins on 4H as well concerning houses

and way they are

> constructed ?

>

>

>

> [Visti] Jaimini specifically uses the word;

svaamsa which means

Navamsa

> lagna, karakamsa and Chandra navamsa. This

broader terminology

helps us

> understand what is going on at the level of

body/intellect, soul

and mind

> respectively. i.e. the 4th from d9 lagna

causes ailments to the

body, but

> not the 4th from moon.

>

> But this is not to say that Parasara and

Mahesvara (author of

jataka Tattva)

> are wrong. What the atma wants is seen from

the placements from

karakamsa.

> This is why Jaimini used a lot of short words

when describing the

results;

> i.e. if there are malefics in 2nd from svamsa

he said poverty will

be there.

> But point is that if this is from karakamsa,

then the soul rejects

money and

> is born in poverty. If in 2nd from navamsa

lagna then the native

experiences

> monetary problems due to circumstances.

>

> So just understand that the AK shows the

desire of the atma. The

atma may

> however not attain its desires, as this

depends on whether the mind

or

> intellect is moving in the right

direction… its always this

mismatch between

> the mind and soul which causes problems.

Infact it's the main cause

of

> diseases as seen in the D-30 chart.

>

>

> Best wishes

> Maja

>

> ,

"Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> wrote:

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Maja, Namaskar

> >

> > My AK lords the 4th house in d1 chart so

one of my contributions

> to the

> > world is taking others out of

sorrow/shock/darkness – this I do

> through

> > astrology, and hopefully this will make

up for any other curses I

> have to

> > experience.

> >

> >

> >

> > Now when Cancer is the AK-sign in D9 or

AK is Moon or joined the

> Moon in D9,

> > then just like Soma one will steel the

wife of Brihaspati (Tara)

> and get

> > cursed for this by Shiva. My Cancer

karakamsa has one way or the

> other got

> > me into situations where the partner

either recently ended a

> relationship

> > with someone else, or was still in a

relationship with someone

> else. And

> > this has happened to me twice without me

knowing until much

later,

> and

> > notably in Moon and Rahu antara dasas.

Even when I was in a

regular

> > relationship during a Ketu antara dasa,

the partner had some

> peculiar

> > relationship with an ex-partner which I

had suspicions about was

> going on

> > before I entered the picture.

> >

> >

> >

> > So if you find a chart with Cancer as

the karakamsa, be sure to

> warn them

> > about this. A general prediction is that

the native has

> relationships with

> > married people.

> >

> > Maybe my partners ex-partner had

Jupiters signs as their

karakamsa

> or

> > jupiter as ak!

> >

> >

> >

> > But that's karma – so I worship

Somanath (Shiva as the lord of

the

> Moon), to

> > avoid these things from happening.

> >

> >

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > http://srigaruda.com

> >

> > <visti@s...>

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> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > Maja [vakelim]

> > 30 December 2004 22:27

> >

> > Re: [Om Krishna

Guru] Moksha

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Guru Visti,

> >

> > Seems you really have chalenges in this

lifetime-not only Rh as

> AK -

> > "must to" stay of clean heart

even might get cheated by

others,but

> > even to be deeply carryng for others and

comapssionate(cancer).

> > (something like apostolic- ofer a right

cheek when you get punch

> in

> > left:)

> >

> > By the way what's so wrong indicated

with Mo being AK that

> > one "should watch out"??

> > Mine AK in Gemini would teach me watch

out what I talk,write?

(oops)

> >

> > Best wishes

> > Maja

> >

> >

> > ,

"Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> > wrote:

> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > >

> > > Dear Maja, Namaskar

> > >

> > > Simply brilliant! You got it!

> > >

> > > If Mars is AK then you beat

everyone up and could not control

> your

> > temper…

> > > maybe your karakamsa was in Scorpio

or Aries in the past life.

> So

> > in this

> > > life Mars will punish you and make

everyone angry with you

until

> > you one day

> > > learn to give in and stop fighting.

> > >

> > > Point is that what about the AK in

your next life? This will be

> > indicated by

> > > the karakamsa sign… I have

Cancer as the sign, so if I don't

> watch

> > out I may

> > > be reborn with Moon as AK? This is

why Jaimini and Paraçara

> where

> > not

> > > concerned about the AK-planets

indications but only the Ak-

signs.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Visti Larsen

> > >

> > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com

> > >

> > > <visti@s...>

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> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > Maja [vakelim]

> > > 30 December 2004 21:29

> > >

> > > Re: [Om Krishna

Guru] Moksha

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Guru Visti,

> > >

> > > Exuse my interupt in

conversation,just I have one question on

> > > subject you mentioned:

> > >

> > >

> > > > [Visti] the karakamsa sign

will show how you tend to affect

> > others

> > > in this

> > > > birth. If you do something

wrong you will suffer from this in

> a

> > > next birth.

> > > > So the sign shows the actions

you do in this birth whilst the

> > > planet shows

> > > > what you did in the last.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > -while reading some other

explainings on role of AK,I

understood

> > it

> > > usualy being conected in sense-"what

one should do,must to" in

> > order

> > > to keep on right direction in this

life.

> > > But does this always come like one

took something of wrong way

> on

> > > graha indicating AK before? for

example

> > > -Ma-ahimsa now,but does it mean

violent before,Me- must be

> > > truthful,but did oposit before?

> > > or how else to understand that

:> what you did in the last

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Maja

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ~ om tat sat ~

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> > that the

> > > human stomach should not become a

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||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Maja and list, Namaskar and Happy New

Year

Some comments below.

Best wishes,

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[vakelim ]

01 January 2005 13:44

 

[Om Krishna

Guru] Re: Karakamsa

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Dear Guru Visti,

Thank you on your inspiring writtings both trough

mails and your

articles from site.That one about Jnana yoga is

real author's pearl.

I have few more questiones rised:

font-style:italic">[Visti] Thanks.

Maja -I got a bit confused here.How could

closeness of Sun-Satya(in

effect of combustion) unfluence other Graha to commit

sin,shouldn't

nearness of Light bring us inlight on contrarry to

darkness of sin

(if Saturn is great enemy of Satya-one who

promotes 'Asat'(untruth)

as you wrote-shouldnt that sadripus be his work?

-I just used simply logic here,but I may be wrong

italic">[Visti] Everything is the dirtiest until AFTER you have cleaned it. The

time just before combustion is the most sinful phase, but as soon as one has

entered the 3rd eye of Shiva, the penance begins and the sins a

burnt. This is why the ancient kings and queens in the puranas renounced

everything at the end of life and went to the forest, where they did a lot of penance

and literally burnt themselves in the fire, through which they left their body.

font-style:italic">Just as gold becomes purified through fire, so does Jupiter

becomes the most pure after combustion... Varahamihira – Brihat Jätaka.

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Maja- as it's known even in nowadays medicine most

of diseases come

from psihoSOMAtic roots and at very end they

express as body

diseases ,so we face again that importance of

mind(Soma) control in

order to keep on right/healthy tracks.But how we

read that missmatch

from D30 before it float in D6,orD1?

(I know you might comment here-it's to early for

this,but just few

footnotes would be helpfull:)

font-weight:bold;font-style:italic">[Visti] http://srath.com/lectures/trimsamsa.htm

-and

one more thought,when Mo happens to be AK and vargottama,we

face same influences from Chandra lagna,Karakams

and Chandra navams-

so could conclusion be that there wouldn't be

siriously misleading

in mind-soul directions?

font-style:italic">[Visti] Good question. For this I do not have answer however.

Best wishes

and let New year bring all of us closer to our

True Self

Maja

~ om tat sat

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(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one

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Dear Ramesh, Namaskar

The houses lorded by the AK shows which

houses need to be clean. i.e. incase of 4th house the heart needs to

be clean and the person must above all do what they can to ensure their

conscience is in the right place. The 12th house indicates ones

expenses and charity. Make sure you have spent and given enough. Make it a

habbit to give charity regularly.

Best wishes,

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31 December 2004 14:20

 

RE: [Om Krishna

Guru] RE: Karakamsa

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10.0pt;font-family:Georgia;color:blue">Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

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10.0pt;font-family:Georgia;color:blue">Dear Visti, Namaskar

12.0pt">

10.0pt;font-family:Georgia;color:blue">Is it ok to generalize the contributions

based on AK lordship? What if it lords a dusthana as 12H in my case?

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[Om Krishna

Guru] RE: Karakamsa

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Maja, Namaskar

My AK lords the 4th house in d1

chart so one of my contributions to the world is taking others out of sorrow/shock/darkness

– this I do through astrology, and hopefully this will make up for any

other curses I have to experience.

 

Now when Cancer is the AK-sign in D9 or AK

is Moon or joined the Moon in D9, then just like Soma one will steel the wife

of Brihaspati (Tara) and get cursed for this by Shiva. My Cancer karakamsa has

one way or the other got me into situations where the partner either recently

ended a relationship with someone else, or was still in a relationship with

someone else. And this has happened to me twice without me knowing until much

later, and notably in Moon and Rahu antara dasas. Even when I was in a regular

relationship during a Ketu antara dasa, the partner had some peculiar

relationship with an ex-partner which I had suspicions about was going on

before I entered the picture.

 

So if you find a chart with Cancer as the

karakamsa, be sure to warn them about this. A general prediction is that the

native has relationships with married people.

Maybe my partners ex-partner had Jupiters

signs as their karakamsa or jupiter as ak!

 

But that’s karma – so I worship

Somanath (Shiva as the lord of the Moon), to avoid these things from happening.

 

Best wishes,

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Dear Guru Visti,

Seems you really have chalenges in this

lifetime-not only Rh as AK -

"must to" stay of clean heart even might

get cheated by others,but

even to be deeply carryng for others and

comapssionate(cancer).

(something like apostolic- ofer a right cheek when

you get punch in

left:)

By the way what's so wrong indicated with Mo being

AK that

one "should watch out"??

Mine AK in Gemini would teach me watch out what I

talk,write?(oops)

Best wishes

Maja

, "Visti

Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Maja, Namaskar

>

> Simply brilliant! You got it!

>

> If Mars is AK then you beat everyone up and

could not control your

temper…

> maybe your karakamsa was in Scorpio or Aries in

the past life. So

in this

> life Mars will punish you and make everyone

angry with you until

you one day

> learn to give in and stop fighting.

>

> Point is that what about the AK in your next

life? This will be

indicated by

> the karakamsa sign… I have Cancer as

the sign, so if I don't watch

out I may

> be reborn with Moon as AK? This is why

Jaimini and Paraçara where

not

> concerned about the AK-planets indications

but only the Ak-signs.

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> <http://srigaruda.com>

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> 30 December 2004 21:29

>

> Re: [Om Krishna

Guru] Moksha

>

>

>

>

> Dear Guru Visti,

>

> Exuse my interupt in conversation,just I have

one question on

> subject you mentioned:

>

>

> > [Visti] the karakamsa sign will show how

you tend to affect

others

> in this

> > birth. If you do something wrong you

will suffer from this in a

> next birth.

> > So the sign shows the actions you do in

this birth whilst the

> planet shows

> > what you did in the last.

> >

> >

> -while reading some other explainings on role

of AK,I understood

it

> usualy being conected in sense-"what one

should do,must to" in

order

> to keep on right direction in this life.

> But does this always come like one took

something of wrong way on

> graha indicating AK before? for example

> -Ma-ahimsa now,but does it mean violent

before,Me- must be

> truthful,but did oposit before?

> or how else to understand that :> what you

did in the last

>

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'Hare Rama Krishna'

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the Great who said

that the

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