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|| Namah Shivaaya ||

 

>

> Dear Hanendra,

>

> I hope this helps clarifying a few thoughts than add

> to the

> confusion. Being a student of the Stars, here is my

> understanding...

>

> Regarding the nature, besides the Moon (waxing /

> waning) and

> Mercury, all the other planets have an inhereant

> nature.

>

> I tend to stay away from commonly used terms as

> "benefic"

> and "malefic." Regardless, the idea is that an

> entity has a state of

> being and reflects qualities positive or negative,

> harsh or

> nurturing.

>

> Amongst these, as per Vedic Astrology, Rahu and Ketu

> are the Karmic

> nodes that are always in opposition to the Sun's

> course.

>

> A planet retrograde, is astronomically not moving

> backward. It is

> the *appearance* from the geocentric earth that is

> doing so, whilst

> its movement has slowed down.....

>

> On a deeper, interpretive level, it signifies a deep

> desire that

> went unfulfilled from a past time...

>

> ...perhaps the graha will take more effort to

> accomplish

> something...?

>

> Exaltation / Debilitation are reflective of the

> environment where a

> planet is at a peak of sorts (again, for the

> positive or negative)...

>

> When you listed "vargottam" in point #2 below, you

> touched on the

> Navamsa.

>

> Sometimes the confusion lies as one does not look

> into the Navamsha,

> or the 9th Division of the chart, reflecting amongst

> others,

> fortunes....

>

> Before pronouncing the results of a said planet,

> cross-check its

> state in this divisional chart. Not only would I

> suggest checking

> the state of the planet, but also the environment's

> qualities, such

> as being in a movable, fixed or dual sign....

>

> A planet in vargottam, is reflective of a more

> static nature of the

> planet as the environment it is in is either

> movable, fixed or

> dual.....

>

> For example, a debilitated Moon in vargottam is not

> only reflected

> of a person with a more rigid state of mind, but

> also a very

> nurturing personality. We do have to take a

> wholistic approach, and

> check aspects, argalas, etc.

>

> A Moon in exaltation in the Rashi, yet in another

> state in the

> Navamsa, will have a more inherant state that is

> reflected in this

> chart.

>

> Howsoever you conclude a planet is acting in a

> Rashi, always check

> the Navamsa as well.

>

> The Rashi is the exterior, whilst the Navamsa is

> more of the

> interior...... this is a general principle for all

> the divisional

> charts as we go deeper into them.... we go not only

> from teh

> physical, the mental, the subconscious, to other

> levels....

>

> THOGUHTS on QUERY #1

> Yes.

>

> The said planet will perhaps take a greater effort

> to act as it

> would, being retrograde.

>

> Also, cross-check in the Navamsa.

>

> THOUGHTS on QUERY #2

> Jupiter will act as Jupiter. You decide whether

> Jupiter's actions

> are going to benefit, or harm...... and what areas?

>

> The said planet will perhaps take a greater effort

> to act as it

> would, being retrograde.

>

> Also, cross-check in the Navamsa.

>

> THOGUHTS on QUERY #3

> Use the aboce two to ponder on this. Besides this,

> there are many

> ways to interpret such a combination....

>

> Saturn is also in a Marana Kaaraka sthaana (roughly

> translated

> as "place of death") in the 1st House, who's natural

> significator is

> its opposing Sun (and Jupiter finds Saturn toughest

> to control, and

> is also in debility in its sign)....

>

>

> Other states should also be checked such as Rashi

> Sandhi / Gandanta.

>

> Hope this helps you in your research. Good luck.

>

> Take care. Best wishes,

> Nitin.

 

 

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"hamendra_c" <hamendra_c

 

Sun, 02 May 2004 13:12:13 -0000

 

>Hello Everyone,

>My query is regarding retrograde planets.I have read many different

>views concerning them on net describing their behaviour and am a bit

>confused now that how should i determine their behaviour.I am

>lisiting some of the views below:

>

>1.Some scholars are of the view that A benefic planet in

>exaltation ,retrograde motion behaves as DEBILITATED.

>

>2.Some scholars say that a malefic,Retrograde planet,which is

>debiliated and is vargottama will behave as EXALTED.

>

>3.I read on shri K.N rao's website that retrograde benefics shed

>their benefic nature.

>

>QUERY

>

>1.Now what i want to know is that how will RETROGRADE MALEFICS(i.e.

>functional malefic as well as malefic by basic nature) FUNCTION IN A

>CHART?Will they shed their malefic nature just like RETRO BENEFICS

>shed their beneficial nature.

>

>2.What about those planets that are NATURAL BENEFICS AND FUCNTIONAL

>MALEFICS IN CHART?how willl they behave if they are RETRO?Will they

>shed their malefic nature?(e.g when Jupiter has kendradhipati dosha

>in a chart ,how will it behave if it is retrograde?

>

>3.Lastly what about those planets which are Natural malefics but

>become FUNTIONAL BENEFIC IN A CHART AND ARE RETROGRADE?E.g Saturn in

>GEMINI LAGNA?

>

>

>Kindly give your valuable views on the above queries please.

>

>Regards

>Hamendra.

>

>

>

>

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>

>

>[Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]

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