RE: [SJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Akashic Records - A Mega astro research project

[Guest guest]

Dear Sunil,

 

I am with you.

 

Astrology is a very vast subject and horoscopes have various methods to be read

from Astakvarga to Nadi Jyotish to Prashna Jatak to Jaimini to KAS to various

D-Charts & so on & so on.

How will we proceed ... Do you have some plan.

 

This indeed is a good project. May we get the blessings of Shri Ganesh, Ved

Vyasa, Parashar, Maharshi Jaimini etc to move in a right and fruitful

direction.

 

best regards,

Pankaj Sharma

Gorakhpur, Bharat

 

 

 

 

Sunil John

[suniljohn_2004 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com]Thursday, April 22, 2004 3:44 PMTo:

VarahamihiraCc: Vedic Astrology; ;

gjlistSubject: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Akashic Records - A Mega

astro research project

Akashic

Records______A

Mega Astrological Research Project Aim:To help astrologers cum students develop

and test finer and practical techniques in astrology. Background:Usually, we

humans act at any given moment of time depending on our pre-conditioning.

Sometimes we reject a particular astrological tech only to come back later in

life and agree with it when we hear a famous astrologer repeat it in his

seminars. Many a times we reject some techniques, which the Parampara

(traditional) astrologers have revealed recently. Some techniques work on 5

charts and a student will think it is 100% workable whereas those might be

exception charts and it might not work on the rest 95. Most of the times as an

eminent writer has shown in his work, that most of the famous techniques are

only good and 100% workable for post mortem astro studies but bad tools for

predictions. Without doing any statistical analysis like a scientist it has

been found that astrology students reject techniques, methods etc, also one

more imp criteria is that students develop affinity towards particular authors

and non-liking towards some even though their techniques would be correct. How

do we take these attitudes of young students and convert it into positive

energy by which the coming generations would benefit. In earlier times it is

said first the students spent yrs in spirituality thereby removing the mental

blocks and then learnt astrology, nowadays it is the reverse. Will this 21st

century produce good astrologers, will we get astrology back to the mantle of

Respect that it deserves. Nostalgia:I went to a famous astrologer, an author

and master of Ashtakvarga, who said if 5th house has low SAV no one can ever be

successful. Bill Gates if I am not wrong has only 19 bindus in 5th and only 27

in 10th house, both points considered low. No doubt now I can believe in the

chart of Bill Gates, after hearing of this statistical method that if 5 (house)

is down and if 10 (SAV of house) goes up then it can be good for career,

although I would need to test it on several charts.Solution:· It is only

through statistical analysis and application of astro methods on thousands of

data can this problem be solved. This can be done by collection of accurate

data with logged Events file. · Before everyone comes to the conclusion

that such an effort would be a futile effort I would like to suggest that if we

collect 100 charts with date of marriage with reasonable accuracy on source of

time of birth, we could easily apply numerous methods across the charts and

find out the percentage of success of those methods thereby refining our

approach. · At the end of the day, we in astrology are playing with

lives of people who seek help. It is our divine Dharma to be as perfect in our

science as possible. Can we take one great step ahead and bring ourselves to

help each other to gather data. · Many senior members have tried doing

this kind of research and there has been little success. Today if we get angry

when scientists or fellowmen don't treat astrology as a science or art, I would

like to ask myself is, what have I done to make it a science. Have I given my

data to someone who is researching, have I shared the collection of charts and

events file with others who are researching, if the answer is no, then I don't

have the right to get angry. · Students spent 7-8 yrs without good

collection of data and just relying on books without testing out the principles

from the same, this gap can be reduced if they have reliable data at hand ·

Privacy is an imp issue here. If u do not wish ur name or anyone’s name to be

included in this while distributing data then there is an option for it too. ·

If there are 1800 people on this list, I am sure we each have 5 good

charts with some basic events like marriage, childbirth, job loss or gain.

Sometimes even one basic event would be enough. It makes us have 9000 charts at

our disposal. One famous author I know of has 50,000 charts at his disposal but

alas he won’t share it for the astrological community. Reflection:·

At the end of the day many of us make our life decisions on statistical

analysis of weather forecast, property rates, share markets, diet plans etc, if

we spend an average 3 hrs on astrology I am sure it warrants us to be more

statistical about it in life, since I am sure some of us invest more time in

astrology than in personal selves or wives )) · Today many of us

do not know how to time a job, we try many techniques which are not 100%

successful due to various reasons. Pls put urself in the position of a person

who hasn't had a job for so long and who yearns to get a job and searches for

some bright light at the end of the tunnel. Can we help him or make an effort,

which would evolve, in helping millions like him in a much better fashion. I

ask humbly for everyone to contribute in this effort. I know this kind of

project turns off most of the people and it would do so to me also. It would

take a long time for one to really store data from everyone in a methodical

manner. I have outlined a list of questionnaire, although lengthy but some of

the points are optional when people send their data or the data of charts they

have in their possession. Everyone can send in his or her collection of charts

along with events file to akashicrecords (AT) indiatimes (DOT) com where huge space is

available. Privacy at all costs would be maintained. Some criteria:- 1. This

project is free of cost, so pls don’t send emails asking for money to share

data 2. I do not know how many yrs it would take to collect and store these

data in a methodical fashion but the final collection of data would be shared

free of cost in form of CDs. 3. Just in case my mind becomes money minded then

I pledge that I would give the proceeds of the sale of the data for betterment

of astrology without any personal benefit. 4. I would seek the help of Mentors

in this project esp individuals who are good librarians or organizing power.

Already few members have become Mentors and their names would be announced

shortly. Either of the two things can happen, either this project would be a

flop or mediocre or a big hit. I leave it to you all. Kindly let me know ur

thoughts.HumblyLove and Light Sunil

JohnMumbaisuniljohn_2004 (AT) hotmail (DOT) comsuniljohn_2002

Posted on: Akashya Triteya, 22nd April, 15.43 pm, mumbai

 

Proposed Events File

 

 

Posted by: Name and email id, tel number if possible

Posted On: Date/Month/Year

 

Chart details of Native

 

Name : (Optional), First name, Middle Name, Last name ( if the name has been

changed due to numerology or other circumstances pls specify both)

Sex: Male/Female/Either

DOB: eg 18th Mar 1970 (Kindly follow this method)

Place of Birth: City, Country

Time of Birth: 20.10.00 (pls follow 24hr clock)

 

Source of Birth: eg Hospital records, memory, memory of parents etc, if there

are stories attached to source and accuracy of birth time pls mention that also

eg got it from his best friends wife ))

 

Rectified Time: Has the time been ever rectified by an astrologer, if yes then

pls specify, if several have done it, pls specify

 

Major Events in Life: (As much data provided would be helpful)

1. Marriage Date

2. Love or Arranged marriage

3. Birth of children

4. Joining of various jobs

5. Loss of various jobs,

6. Start of business,

7. Bad periods in jobs or business.

8. Periods of love affairs/sex affairs

9. Any other events

 

Nature of the person: basic nature of person, temperament, positive, negative,

emotional, self motivated individual, may be working in job but would have good

business skills, how does he rate his sexuality, is he a flirt etc

 

Remedies Performed:

If yes when and for what reason, did he see any effects, pls specify

 

Would this person like to be contacted if an astrologer wishes to discuss his chart: Yes or No

 

Would he like to discuss his chart with astrologers and receive predictions:

(Which would be free of cost) Yes or No

 

Would he prefer remedies from them: Yes or No

 

If yes pls provide details of communication or would this person like to

communicate via the person who has posted the details: ............

 

 

 

[Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]Send a blank mailTo :

-To :

 

[Guest guest]

Dear sunil I am posting the desired data... My suggestion is to create a website

and ask the data there. I am not sure how much it would be helpful but I wish

you good luck and success in this research.

 

 

 

Name : P. K. Gupta

Sex: Male

DOB: 15th April 1965

Place of Birth: Delhi, India

Time of Birth: 23.40.00

Source of Birth: memory of parents

Rectified Time: NO

Major Events in Life: (As much data provided would be helpful)

1. Marriage Date 2nd May 1991

2. Love or Arranged marriage Love

3. Birth of children Nil

4. Joining of various jobs May 1990, 16th May 2000 (Overseas), 15th Feb 2002

5. Loss of various jobs, 30th Septemeber 2000, 23rd May 2003

6. Start of business, July 1989

7. Bad periods in jobs or business. 1989-90, 99-2000, 2003-2004

8. Periods of love affairs/sex affairs 1987 to 1991

9. Any other events Overseas Travel Feb 1995, December 1996, May 1999, May 2000, Feb 2002, Feb 2003

 

Nature of the person: basic nature of person, temperament, positive, negative,

emotional, self motivated individual, may be working in job but would have good

business skills, how does he rate his sexuality, is he a flirt etc

 

Remedies Performed:

yes in july 2003 for clearing final interview, No job

Would this person like to be contacted if an astrologer wishes to discuss his chart: Yes

Would he like to discuss his chart with astrologers and receive predictions:

(Which would be free of cost) Yes

Would he prefer remedies from them: Yes/No

 

If yes pls provide details of communication or would this person like to

communicate via the person who has posted the details: ............Sunil John

<suniljohn_2004 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Akashic

Records______A

Mega Astrological Research Project

10.0pt"> Aim:To help astrologers cum students develop and test finer and

practical techniques in astrology. Background:Usually, we humans act at any

given moment of time depending on

our pre-conditioning. Sometimes we reject a particular astrological tech only to

come back later in life and agree with it when we hear a famous astrologer

repeat it in his seminars. Many a times we reject some techniques, which the

Parampara (traditional) astrologers have revealed recently. Some techniques

work on 5 charts and a student will think it is 100% workable whereas those

might be exception charts and it might not work on the rest 95. Most of the

times as an eminent writer has shown in his work, that most of the famous

techniques are only good and 100% workable for post mortem astro studies but

bad tools for predictions. Without doing any statistical analysis like a

scientist it has been found that astrology students reject techniques, methods

etc, also one more imp criteria is that students develop affinity towards

particular authors and non-liking towards some even though their techniques

would be correct. How do we take these attitudes of young students and

convert it into positive energy by which the coming generations would benefit.

In earlier times it is said first the students spent yrs in spirituality

thereby removing the mental blocks and then learnt astrology, nowadays it is

the reverse. Will this 21st century produce good astrologers, will we get

astrology back to the mantle of Respect that it deserves.

COLOR: #ff6600; FONT-FAMILY: Garamond; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">Nostalgia:I

went to a famous astrologer, an author and master of Ashtakvarga, who said if

5th house has low SAV no one can ever be successful. Bill Gates if I am not

wrong has only 19 bindus in 5th and only 27 in 10th house, both points

considered low. No doubt now I can believe in the chart of Bill Gates, after

hearing of this statistical method that if 5 (house) is down and if 10 (SAV of

house) goes up then it can be good for career, although I would need to test it

on several charts.Solution:· It is only through statistical analysis and

application of astro methods on thousands of data can this problem be solved.

This can be done by collection of accurate data with logged Events file.

687.0pt 732.8pt"> · Before everyone comes to the conclusion that such an

effort would be a futile effort I would like to suggest that if we collect 100

charts with date of marriage with reasonable accuracy on source of time of

birth, we could easily apply numerous methods across the charts and find out

the

percentage of success of those methods thereby refining our approach. ·

mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">At the end of the day, we in astrology are playing

with lives of people who seek help. It is our divine Dharma to be as perfect in

our science as possible. Can we take one great step ahead and bring ourselves to

help each other to gather data.

10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold">· Many senior members have tried

doing this kind of research and there has been little success. Today if we get

angry when scientists or fellowmen don't treat astrology as a science or art, I

would like to ask myself is, what have I done to make it a science. Have I given

my data to someone who is researching, have I shared the collection of charts

and events file with others who are researching, if the answer is no, then I

don't have the right to get angry.

91.6pt 137.4pt 183.2pt 229.0pt 274.8pt 320.6pt 366.4pt 412.2pt 458.0pt 503.8pt

549.6pt 595.4pt 641.2pt 687.0pt 732.8pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1">·

Students spent 7-8 yrs without good collection of data and just relying on

books without testing out the principles from the same, this gap can be reduced

if they have reliable data at hand

412.2pt 458.0pt 503.8pt 549.6pt 595.4pt 641.2pt 687.0pt 732.8pt; mso-list: l0

level1 lfo1">· Privacy is an imp issue here. If u do not wish ur name or

anyone’s name to be included in this while distributing data then there is an

option for it too.

mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"> · If there are 1800 people on this list, I

am sure we each have 5 good charts with some basic events like marriage,

childbirth, job loss or gain. Sometimes even one basic event would be enough.

It makes us have 9000 charts at our disposal. One famous author I know of has

50,000 charts at his disposal but alas he won’t share it for the

astrological community. Reflection:· At the

end of the day many of us make our life decisions on statistical analysis of

weather forecast, property rates, share markets, diet plans etc, if we spend an

average 3 hrs on astrology I am sure it warrants us to be more statistical about

it in life, since I am sure some of us invest more time in astrology than in

personal selves or wives )) · Today many of us do not know how

to time a job, we try many techniques which are not 100% successful due to

various reasons. Pls put urself in the position of a person who hasn't had a

job for so long and who yearns to get a job and searches for some bright light

at the end of the tunnel. Can we help him or make an effort, which would

evolve, in helping millions like him in a much better fashion.

732.8pt"> I ask humbly for everyone to contribute in this effort. I know this

kind of project turns off most of the people and it would do so to me also. It

would take a long time for one to really store data from everyone in a

methodical manner. I have outlined a list of

questionnaire, although lengthy but some of the points are optional when people

send their data or the data of charts they have in their possession. Everyone

can send in his or her collection of charts along with events file to

akashicrecords (AT) indiatimes (DOT) com where huge space is available. Privacy at all

costs would be maintained.

10.0pt">Some criteria:- 1. This project is free of cost, so pls don’t send

emails asking for money to share data 2. I do not know how many yrs it would

take to collect and store these data in a methodical fashion but the final

collection of data would be shared free of cost in form of CDs. 3. Just in case

my mind becomes money minded then I pledge that I would give the proceeds of the

sale of the data for betterment of astrology without any personal benefit. 4. I

would seek the help of Mentors in this project esp individuals who are good

librarians or organizing power. Already few members have become Mentors and

their names would be announced shortly. Either of the two things can happen,

either this project would be a flop or mediocre or a big hit. I leave it to you

all. Kindly let me know ur thoughts.HumblyLove and Light Sunil

JohnMumbaisuniljohn_2004 (AT) hotmail (DOT) comsuniljohn_2002

Posted on: Akashya Triteya, 22nd April, 15.43 pm, mumbai

 

Proposed Events File

 

 

Posted by: Name and email id, tel number if possible

Posted On: Date/Month/Year

 

Chart details of Native

 

Name : (Optional), First name, Middle Name, Last name ( if the name has been

changed due to numerology or other circumstances pls specify both)

Sex: Male/Female/Either

DOB: eg 18th Mar 1970 (Kindly follow this method)

Place of Birth: City, Country

Time of Birth: 20.10.00 (pls follow 24hr clock)

 

Source of Birth: eg Hospital records, memory, memory of parents etc, if there

are stories attached to source and accuracy of birth time pls mention that also

eg got it from his best friends wife ))

 

Rectified Time: Has the time been ever rectified by an astrologer, if yes then

pls specify, if several have done it, pls specify

 

Major Events in Life: (As much data provided would be helpful)

1. Marriage Date

2. Love or Arranged marriage

3. Birth of children

4. Joining of various jobs

5. Loss of various jobs,

6. Start of business,

7. Bad periods in jobs or business.

8. Periods of love affairs/sex affairs

9. Any other events

 

Nature of the person: basic nature of person, temperament, positive, negative,

emotional, self motivated individual, may be working in job but would have good

business skills, how does he rate his sexuality, is he a flirt etc

 

Remedies Performed:

If yes when and for what reason, did he see any effects, pls specify

 

Would this person like to be contacted if an astrologer wishes to discuss his chart: Yes or No

 

Would he like to discuss his chart with astrologers and receive predictions:

(Which would be free of cost) Yes or No

 

Would he prefer remedies from them: Yes or No

 

If yes pls provide details of communication or would this person like to

communicate via the person who has posted the details: ............

 

 

 

[Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]Send a blank mailTo :

-To :

> ATTACHMENT part 2

application/vnd.ms-excel name=Akashic Records Events File.xlsPawan G

 

Mobile +91-98-111-43607

Res +91-120-2771500

Present contact +220-763476 (Gambia The Banjul)

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Pawan,

Thanks for ur data, this is very much appreciated.

 

I wrote an email to you which might not have reached u I presume. Can

you pls give me ur private email id. I presume u might not have got

the excel sheet that was attached to previous post, one can fill up

data in that excel sheet preferably for easier maintainence of records

 

Pls write at suniljohn_2004 or suniljohn_2002

 

If you are willing to be a bigger contributor pls let me know.

Whatever skills you may have we can definitely use this in this

project which we hope to carry on for decades.

 

May God bless us all.

 

 

Thanks

 

Sunil John

 

, PAWAN KUMAR GUPTA <praind>

wrote:

>

> Dear sunil I am posting the desired data... My suggestion is to

create a website and ask the data there. I am not sure how much it

would be helpful but I wish you good luck and success in this

research.

>

Name : P. K. Gupta

>

> Sex: Male

>

> DOB: 15th April 1965

>

> Place of Birth: Delhi, India

>

> Time of Birth: 23.40.00

>

> Source of Birth: memory of parents

>

> Rectified Time: NO

>

> Major Events in Life: (As much data provided would be helpful)

>

> 1. Marriage Date 2nd May 1991

>

> 2. Love or Arranged marriage Love

>

> 3. Birth of children Nil

>

> 4. Joining of various jobs May 1990, 16th May 2000 (Overseas),

15th Feb 2002

>

> 5. Loss of various jobs, 30th Septemeber 2000, 23rd May 2003

>

> 6. Start of business, July 1989

>

> 7. Bad periods in jobs or business. 1989-90, 99-2000, 2003-2004

>

> 8. Periods of love affairs/sex affairs 1987 to 1991

>

> 9. Any other events Overseas Travel Feb 1995, December 1996, May

1999, May 2000, Feb 2002, Feb 2003

>

>

>

> Nature of the person: basic nature of person, temperament,

positive, negative, emotional, self motivated individual, may be

working in job but would have good business skills, how does he rate

his sexuality, is he a flirt etc

>

>

>

> Remedies Performed:

> yes in july 2003 for clearing final interview, No job

> Would this person like to be contacted if an astrologer wishes to

discuss his chart: Yes

>

> Would he like to discuss his chart with astrologers and receive

predictions: (Which would be free of cost) Yes

>

> Would he prefer remedies from them: Yes/No

>

>

>

> If yes pls provide details of communication or would this person

like to communicate via the person who has posted the

details: ............

>