[SJC: Achyuta Gurukul] 3rd and 6th from AL (A Can anyone help me understand functional malefics? 3rd/6th from AL-> 4 SR)

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|Hare Rama Krishna|

Dear AC, Namaskar.

I'm quite suprised that this discussion didn't start earlier, Sanjay

has been using this principle for a very long time.

My answers below in caps.

Best wishes, Visti.

 

, agatha christie

<agathachristie22> wrote:

> dear visti,

>

> what about mars and saturn in 3rd from AL [which is also 6th from

Lagna (pisces lagna)]. mars and saturn are debilitated in navamsa

(sagittarius lagna).

VISTI: DEBILITATION IN NAVAMSA INDICATES THAT ONES BHAGYA IS SUCH

THAT ONE WILL BE DEFEATED, BUT UNLESS THESE PLANETS ARE DEBILITATED

IN RASI, THE NATIVE WILL NOT EXPECT NOR ANTICIPATE THIS DEFEAT. THAT

MEANS THAT THE NATIVE SET OUT TO FIGHT!

> 3rd from AL is how you fight enemies and 6th from lagna are ur

enemies...so what will this mean ? equal fight / strength ? in this

case, does debilitiation in navamsa cause

> spirituality ? but in what sense ? will the native be defeated and

become spiritual ?

 

VISTI: WHEN YOU SUFFER ENOUGH DEFEAT, YOU START RENOUNCING.

also, does it show rightful defeat ? i mean, will it mean native got

what he deserved ?

VISTI: INCASE OF WEAKNESS IN NAVAMSA - YES! IT SHOWS THAT YOUR BHAGYA

IS SUCH, AND THIS BHAGYA DEPENDS ON WHAT DHARMA YOU DID IN YOUR PAST

LIFE. WHETHER IT FEELS RIGHTFUL IN THIS LIFE DEPENDS ON OTHER FACTORS.

 

> u said benefics in 3rd from AL shows awareness at the time of death

and also circumstances of death. what will mars+ saturn in 3rd from

AL show ? what will be the

> circumstances ?

 

VISTI: THIS IS GIVEN IN SANJAYS LONGEVITY ARTICLES (SRATH.COM), COVA

AND JAIMINI UPADESA SUTRAS.

 

> thanks,

> AC

>

>

> "Visti @ Jagannathpuri" <visti@s...> wrote:

> |Hare Rama Krishna|

>

> Dear Kaimal, Namaskar.

> I'm writing this post at the request of others, for the further

understanding of 3rd and 6th from AL.

> Unless the benefics are strong, the person will delay their

renunciation, and that too the planets must be exalted.

>

> See the houses from Arudha Lagna will show how you react to this

world, whilst the houses from Lagna will show what you receive from

this world. Example: if you have planets in the 6th house from Lagna,

those types of enemies will trouble you, but whether you retaliate or

not is seen from the 3rd and 6th houses from Arudha Lagna.

>

> Benefics in the 3rd and 6th houses from Arudha Lagna will indicate

a path of peace or renunciation. And that too when those planets are

strong. If weak then one will easily succumb to the path of the

malefics, namely that of getting the material fruits of this world.

>

> See there are two types of worship in this world. Right Hand (3rd

house) ruled by Brhaspati and Left Hand (11th house) ruled by

Sukracharya. The left handed worship will always amount to fruits

from this world, no matter what you offer. Whilst the right handed

worship must be good karma (benefics) to move towards spirituality,

whilst bad karma (malefics) will obstruct ones spirituality, but can

give material fruits as they will obstruct the work of Brhaspati and

allow Shukracharya to have his way.

>

> Why both 3rd and 6th houses? The 3rd and 6th houses in the natural

zodiac are Gemini and Virgo respectively. The opposite signs to these

are Sagittarius (9th) and Pisces (12th) respectively, which show the

Guru and the Mahaåñis intervening in our lives, and their intention

towards us. That's why the 3rd house is said to indicate Guru-

Upadesa, as it's the 7th from the 9th house.

>

> The Guru's requirement is Sattva Guna – i.e. be pure. If you offer

Tamas (s)he will not be inclined to help you and will leave. Hence a

main requirement for choosing students is that they should preferably

not have malefics in the 9th house from Lagna, and that too the Tamas

Guna Grahas; Rahu, Saturn or Mars, off which Saturn is the worst and

can cause separation between the Guru-Sishya. Off-course there are

other riders as well – A9, Guru, etc.

>

> Now if one does happen to have benefics in 3rd/6th from AL, they

will give spirituality if they are strong, as this makes the good

karma produced very auspicious and taken easily by the Guru. But if

the benefics are weak, then the Guru's will not take them easily, and

the spirituality is delayed in proportion to the good karma produced.

>

> By nature benefics in 3rd/6th from AL will make the person a good-

hearted individual without doubt.

>

> Among the benefics those who are Rajasic will decrease ones ties to

Samsara, these are Venus and Mercury. The stronger they are, the more

severed the bond to Samsara will be. Any afflictions or weaknesses

(in both rasi and navamsa) will delay the same and hence delay ones

spirituality from arising.

>

> Now if you think abit more in these lines, you will find that the

planets in 3rd and 6th from AL will show our attitude towards

spirituality, and which ideals/activities are taking us away from the

spiritual path.

>

> Malefics in 3rd/6th from AL can cause spirituality if they are weak.

>

>

>

> Hope this helps

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

>

> Visti Larsen

> visti@s...

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> ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

>

> Dear Visti,

>

> Just a small doubt; when you state that the apoklima houses from

AL are governed by a lot of tamas guna, I understand that this is not

a general statement as it depends on where the AL is. For example, if

the AL is in a dual sign, then the apoklimas will be all tamas guna

else if the AL is in a fixed signs, then the apoklimas will be all

rajasic and if the AL is in a movable sign, only the apoklimas are

all satvic!

>

> Please correct my understanding, if wrong.

>

> Hope you are having a great time at Puri. Saw your photos; they

look good; I especially liked the photo of you going over some notes

and Sanjay sitting in padmasana. Convey my regards to Sanjay and

Sarbani.

>

> regards

>

> Hari

>

> Jaya Jagannath

>

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