Guest guest Posted April 7, 2004 Report Share Posted April 7, 2004 07042004 Dear Viswanadham Thanks for your replay. I still I have one doubt. Hope you will clarify this as well. When a planet is Natural friend but temporary enemy it is considerd as neutral or Sama. So if the lord of 5th is not in 2,3,4,10,11,12 from the lagna lord then it will be considred as neutral to Lagna but not inimical to lagna. In the cancer and virgo lagna only there is a chance of 5th lord becoming enemy because it is naturally neutral or Sama to lagna lord and in case it becomes temporary enemy then it will be treated as enemy to the lagna lord. So this rule applies only to Cancer and Virgo lagna. Is it so? But statement seems to be applied for all lagnas. Atleast I got the impression like that. Moreover in the cancer lagna 5th lord is as well 10th lord and hence yogakarak and many belive that yogakarak planet is very good. How do we reconcile it? Thanks a lot for your Time and Space. Prabodh Vekhande , "vishwanatham" <vishwanatham@r...> wrote: > > Dear Prabodh, > > Hare Rama Krishna > > i think it is the temporary enemies. Planets in 2,3,4, 10,11,12 rasis > from the Lagna lord are temporary friends to it, others are temporary > enemies. Is it not? > > That is how i understand it. > > regards > viswanadham > > , "amolmandar" <amolmandar> > wrote: > > 06042004 > > Aadarniya Pandit ji Namaskar > > > > In the zeal of learning about mantra and astrology, I was reading > > your VRA and COVA. The COVA in 5th house chapter page no. 169 sec > 8.4 > > reads like this > > > > "If the fifth lord does not have good relationship with lagna lord, > > the propitiation of fifth lord could endanger the life of children" > > > > In the VRA page 279 in VRA line no. 7 reads like this > > > > "For example if the lord of the fifth house is inimical to the lord > > of lagna, then the use of a gemstone of the lord of the fifth house > > or its mantra can endanger the life of children." > > > > Actually I had a impression that fifth lord and lagna lord are > always > > friendly to each other. I thought that triens lords are good for > > lagna and kendra lord could be inimical to lagna that is why trines > > have grater say as compared to kendras in the chart analysis. > > > > If we go by basic approch we get following pairs of lagna & 5th > lord. > > 1)mars-Sun (Mitra) > > 2)Venus-Mercury (Mitra) > > 3)Mercury-Venus (Mitra) > > 4)Moon-Mars(Sama) > > 5)Sun-Jupiter (Mitra) > > 6)Mercury-Saturn (Sama) > > 7)Venus-Saturn((Mitra) > > 8)Mars-Jupiter(Mitra) > > 9)Jupiter-MArs (Mitra) > > 10)Saturn-Venus (Mitra) > > 11) Saturn-Mercury (Mitra) > > 12)Jupiter-Moon (Mitra) > > > > Only in 4th and 6th the relationship is Sama and not Mitra. But > Sama > > can not be considered as inimical. So how do we understand these > > statements. Do we take into consideration functional friendships? > In > > that case they will alwys be inimical. OR do we take into > > consideration placements of lagna lord and fifth lord in the chart? > > like 6/8 to each other? > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce. > > > > Prabodh Vekhande Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2004 Report Share Posted April 7, 2004 Hare Rama Krishna i think only possibility is temporary enemity between the planets. Your example of Mars as yoga karaka for Cancer Lagna, makes it more clear that temporary relationship of Moon-Mar plays important role. Also, it is only about using mantras/gemstones, which are known to carry energies from one area to another area of life/ or/ simultaneously effect different areas of life for good or bad. i ask another question, for working women with Cancer lagna (like other Lagnas), birth of children hinders/breaks/completely puts an end to their careers. How to reconcile this? i can see you smiling! regards viswanadhamamolmandar <amolmandar > wrote: 07042004Dear ViswanadhamThanks for your replay. I still I have one doubt. Hope you will clarify this as well. When a planet is Natural friend but temporary enemy it is considerd as neutral or Sama. So if the lord of 5th is not in 2,3,4,10,11,12 from the lagna lord then it will be considred as neutral to Lagna but not inimical to lagna. In the cancer and virgo lagna only there is a chance of 5th lord becoming enemy because it is naturally neutral or Sama to lagna lord and in case it becomes temporary enemy then it will be treated as enemy to the lagna lord. So this rule applies only to Cancer and Virgo lagna. Is it so? But statement seems to be applied for all lagnas. Atleast I got the impression like that. Moreover in the cancer lagna 5th lord is as well 10th lord and hence yogakarak and many belive that yogakarak planet is very good. How do we reconcile it?Thanks a lot for your Time and Space.Prabodh Vekhande Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 Dear Prabodh, Hare Rama Krishna It is not overlooking permanent relationships or not considering five- fold relationship, but to rule out the temporary enemity between planets. As the intention is to give remedy to alleviate existing problems, there should be no new problems from the remedy. Also you can check this: http://www.srath.com/lectures/sambandha.htm i was only saying that, one planet could be simultaneously doing good & bad!(these are relative terms) Hope this helps. regards viswanadham , "amolmandar" <amolmandar> wrote: > 08042004 > Dear Viswanadham > > I am still not clear. Does that mean we should overlook natural > friendship and take into account only temporary enemity? Yes in case > of cancer and Virgo lagna only the lords of lagna and 5th house can > be inimical and hence their temporary relationship is important. But > yogakaraka status of mars in cancer lagna should override. So it is > only applicable to virgo lagna. How can dictum be specified which > gets applied only on one lagna? > > Moreover, mantras and gemstone are important aspect of astrology. A > bad(inimical to native) mantra or a stone may create more problems to > a person. I have seen several people wearing unwanted stone. Many > astrologers even suggest stone of 6th/8th lords. Person puts it as he > belives totally in his astrologer. But that creats more problems to > him. I was told that konadhipati if not owning any dusthana is a > best bet to put the gemstone of. It seems that it is not so. > > Birth of children may not completely put and end to career of working > woman. 5th is 8th to 10th and hence can decide duration(Aayu) of karma > (Artharjan). So birth of child may increase the duration(Aayu) of > artharjan! It may be loss in service(Naukari) being 12th to 6th but > career is not in service only. Am I right? > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Space. > > Prabodh Vekhande > > > > , H S Viswanadham > <vishwanatham@r...> wrote: > > Dear Prabodh, > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > > i think only possibility is temporary enemity between the planets. > Your example of Mars as yoga karaka for Cancer Lagna, makes it more > clear that temporary relationship of Moon-Mar plays important role. > Also, it is only about using mantras/gemstones, which are known to > carry energies from one area to another area of life/ or/ > simultaneously effect different areas of life for good or bad. > > > > i ask another question, for working women with Cancer lagna (like > other Lagnas), birth of children hinders/breaks/completely puts an > end to their careers. How to reconcile this? > > > > i can see you smiling! > > > > regards > > viswanadham > > amolmandar <amolmandar> wrote: > > 07042004 > > Dear Viswanadham > > > > Thanks for your replay. I still I have one doubt. Hope you will > > clarify this as well. > > > > When a planet is Natural friend but temporary enemy it is considerd > > as neutral or Sama. So if the lord of 5th is not in 2,3,4,10,11,12 > > from the lagna lord then it will be considred as neutral to Lagna > but > > not inimical to lagna. In the cancer and virgo lagna only there is > a > > chance of 5th lord becoming enemy because it is naturally neutral > or > > Sama to lagna lord and in case it becomes temporary enemy then it > > will be treated as enemy to the lagna lord. So this rule applies > only > > to Cancer and Virgo lagna. Is it so? But statement seems to be > > applied for all lagnas. Atleast I got the impression like that. > > > > Moreover in the cancer lagna 5th lord is as well 10th lord and > hence > > yogakarak and many belive that yogakarak planet is very good. How > do > > we reconcile it? > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Space. > > > > Prabodh Vekhande Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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