Mantra/Gemstone selection doubt

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06042004

Aadarniya Pandit ji Namaskar

 

In the zeal of learning about mantra and astrology, I was reading

your VRA and COVA. The COVA in 5th house chapter page no. 169 sec 8.4

reads like this

 

"If the fifth lord does not have good relationship with lagna lord,

the propitiation of fifth lord could endanger the life of children"

 

In the VRA page 279 in VRA line no. 7 reads like this

 

"For example if the lord of the fifth house is inimical to the lord

of lagna, then the use of a gemstone of the lord of the fifth house

or its mantra can endanger the life of children."

 

Actually I had a impression that fifth lord and lagna lord are always

friendly to each other. I thought that triens lords are good for

lagna and kendra lord could be inimical to lagna that is why trines

have grater say as compared to kendras in the chart analysis.

 

If we go by basic approch we get following pairs of lagna & 5th lord.

1)mars-Sun (Mitra)

2)Venus-Mercury (Mitra)

3)Mercury-Venus (Mitra)

4)Moon-Mars(Sama)

5)Sun-Jupiter (Mitra)

6)Mercury-Saturn (Sama)

7)Venus-Saturn((Mitra)

8)Mars-Jupiter(Mitra)

9)Jupiter-MArs (Mitra)

10)Saturn-Venus (Mitra)

11) Saturn-Mercury (Mitra)

12)Jupiter-Moon (Mitra)

 

Only in 4th and 6th the relationship is Sama and not Mitra. But Sama

can not be considered as inimical. So how do we understand these

statements. Do we take into consideration functional friendships? In

that case they will alwys be inimical. OR do we take into

consideration placements of lagna lord and fifth lord in the chart?

like 6/8 to each other?

 

 

Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.

 

Prabodh Vekhande

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Dear Prabodh,

 

Hare Rama Krishna

 

i think it is the temporary enemies. Planets in 2,3,4, 10,11,12 rasis

from the Lagna lord are temporary friends to it, others are temporary

enemies. Is it not?

 

That is how i understand it.

 

regards

viswanadham

 

, "amolmandar" <amolmandar>

wrote:

> 06042004

> Aadarniya Pandit ji Namaskar

>

> In the zeal of learning about mantra and astrology, I was reading

> your VRA and COVA. The COVA in 5th house chapter page no. 169 sec

8.4

> reads like this

>

> "If the fifth lord does not have good relationship with lagna lord,

> the propitiation of fifth lord could endanger the life of children"

>

> In the VRA page 279 in VRA line no. 7 reads like this

>

> "For example if the lord of the fifth house is inimical to the lord

> of lagna, then the use of a gemstone of the lord of the fifth house

> or its mantra can endanger the life of children."

>

> Actually I had a impression that fifth lord and lagna lord are

always

> friendly to each other. I thought that triens lords are good for

> lagna and kendra lord could be inimical to lagna that is why trines

> have grater say as compared to kendras in the chart analysis.

>

> If we go by basic approch we get following pairs of lagna & 5th

lord.

> 1)mars-Sun (Mitra)

> 2)Venus-Mercury (Mitra)

> 3)Mercury-Venus (Mitra)

> 4)Moon-Mars(Sama)

> 5)Sun-Jupiter (Mitra)

> 6)Mercury-Saturn (Sama)

> 7)Venus-Saturn((Mitra)

> 8)Mars-Jupiter(Mitra)

> 9)Jupiter-MArs (Mitra)

> 10)Saturn-Venus (Mitra)

> 11) Saturn-Mercury (Mitra)

> 12)Jupiter-Moon (Mitra)

>

> Only in 4th and 6th the relationship is Sama and not Mitra. But

Sama

> can not be considered as inimical. So how do we understand these

> statements. Do we take into consideration functional friendships?

In

> that case they will alwys be inimical. OR do we take into

> consideration placements of lagna lord and fifth lord in the chart?

> like 6/8 to each other?

>

>

> Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.

>

> Prabodh Vekhande

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08042004

Dear Viswanadham

 

I am still not clear. Does that mean we should overlook natural

friendship and take into account only temporary enemity? Yes in case

of cancer and Virgo lagna only the lords of lagna and 5th house can

be inimical and hence their temporary relationship is important. But

yogakaraka status of mars in cancer lagna should override. So it is

only applicable to virgo lagna. How can dictum be specified which

gets applied only on one lagna?

 

Moreover, mantras and gemstone are important aspect of astrology. A

bad(inimical to native) mantra or a stone may create more problems to

a person. I have seen several people wearing unwanted stone. Many

astrologers even suggest stone of 6th/8th lords. Person puts it as he

belives totally in his astrologer. But that creats more problems to

him. I was told that konadhipati if not owning any dusthana is a

best bet to put the gemstone of. It seems that it is not so.

 

Birth of children may not completely put and end to career of working

woman. 5th is 8th to 10th and hence can decide duration(Aayu) of karma

(Artharjan). So birth of child may increase the duration(Aayu) of

artharjan! It may be loss in service(Naukari) being 12th to 6th but

career is not in service only. Am I right?

 

Thanks a lot for your Time and Space.

 

Prabodh Vekhande

 

 

 

, H S Viswanadham

<vishwanatham@r...> wrote:

> Dear Prabodh,

>

> Hare Rama Krishna

>

> i think only possibility is temporary enemity between the planets.

Your example of Mars as yoga karaka for Cancer Lagna, makes it more

clear that temporary relationship of Moon-Mar plays important role.

Also, it is only about using mantras/gemstones, which are known to

carry energies from one area to another area of life/ or/

simultaneously effect different areas of life for good or bad.

>

> i ask another question, for working women with Cancer lagna (like

other Lagnas), birth of children hinders/breaks/completely puts an

end to their careers. How to reconcile this?

>

> i can see you smiling!

>

> regards

> viswanadham

> amolmandar <amolmandar> wrote:

> 07042004

> Dear Viswanadham

>

> Thanks for your replay. I still I have one doubt. Hope you will

> clarify this as well.

>

> When a planet is Natural friend but temporary enemy it is considerd

> as neutral or Sama. So if the lord of 5th is not in 2,3,4,10,11,12

> from the lagna lord then it will be considred as neutral to Lagna

but

> not inimical to lagna. In the cancer and virgo lagna only there is

a

> chance of 5th lord becoming enemy because it is naturally neutral

or

> Sama to lagna lord and in case it becomes temporary enemy then it

> will be treated as enemy to the lagna lord. So this rule applies

only

> to Cancer and Virgo lagna. Is it so? But statement seems to be

> applied for all lagnas. Atleast I got the impression like that.

>

> Moreover in the cancer lagna 5th lord is as well 10th lord and

hence

> yogakarak and many belive that yogakarak planet is very good. How

do

> we reconcile it?

>

>

> Thanks a lot for your Time and Space.

>

> Prabodh Vekhande