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Thanks for the query, i shall analyse the chart of Jack Welch.

Jack Welch is sagittarius rising, and the first thing that i could notice is the

Vijaya Yoga in lagna. The Mars and Rahu are tightly conjunct the lagna, within

an arc minute, and this defines his dynamic personality.

Mars in lagna makes a person cruel, short tempered, bellicose but an inspired

fighter. He has been called the manager of the century,if you look at his Rajya

Pada, you would notice that there is jupiter and Sun. Well jupiter in trines to

Rajya Pada does give big titles, the fact that there is Sun has given him the

title of a manager. Mercury in Al in libra has given him the tag of a maverick

deal maker(libra is all about deals and trading, mercury is the trader)

 

His Sudden elevation in 1981 can be attributed to some important factors.a)

Saturn and jupiter were transiting Virgo, which is his natal 10th house, and

also houses Venus. Thus there was bound to be good results pertaining to

career.,

 

b) In Rasi The narayana dasa of Gemini was running, and it had to give results

of debilitated nodes in kendra(Tasmin ...). This was sudden, and he beat out 6

other contenders, owing to the sudden factor of Ketu(Ketu can be very erratic,

sudden and here he is in gemini, whose lord mercury is in AL, thus giving the

sudden rise)

 

c) The narayana dasa in Dasamsa was of Libra-cancer. And it is clear from his

dasamsa. Libra houses the potent venus-jupiter combo, + the antardasa was of

lagna(cancer) thus giving results to the self.

 

d) His marriage has been troublesome affair. Rahu-ketu axis predominates in both

rasi chakra as well as Navamsa chakra. The fact that there is mars in 2nd house

in navamsa, ensured that he had some kind of secret affairs(Mars in scorpio),

and also a second marriage.

 

e) The most important point ofcourse is the fact that His Atma Karaka is Mars

who is in Isana Dasamsa, Maya Siddhamsa, and Karala Damshtra Sashtyamsa. WHile

in Dasamsa, mars in Isana has given him the vision to take his company forward,

and in Maya Siddhamsa has given him rare abilities to construct huge empire.

Karala Damshtra means frightful teethed, and this would imply a strong,

domineering CEO.

 

f) You can also note that Sun is in 2nd house in dasamsa, bringing him huge

gains with respect to his profession. 10th lord mercury is in Mesha navamsa,

signifying his fierce martian qualities.

 

g) ANother important point is the name of his famous book, which is "Straight

from the Gut". Gut is the area just above navel, and rules the Manipura Chakra.

It is agni tatwa, ruled by Mars, and the beeja for this chakra is Ram. Well you

can see the presence of Mars in the title of His book. Now we can understand

the AK Quite well.

 

best wishesparthaSunil John <suniljohn_2004 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Dear Partha,

How are you doing, would u like to analyse this chart of famous man JAck Welch,

would u kindly do it on the list so that all of us learn.

 

His birth details and bio below.

 

Best wishes

 

Sunil John

 

Jack Welch, the famous ex-CEO of GE

 

Got this information from the Rodden site,

"

19th Nov 1935

10.30 am EST +5.00

Peabody, MA

42N31'40''

70 W 55'45''

 

Rodden rating is a double AA

Source hospital records

 

 

Biography

American business executive, perhaps the most touted CEO in America over the

past 20 years. The head of General Electric from 1981, Welch retired on

9/07/2001 with a record of returning more value to shareholders than even Bill

Gates or Sam Walton, an increase of more than 3,000% during his tenure. His

autobiography, "Jack: Straight From the Gut," became an instant best-seller

upon its publication, 9/11/2001.

Welch recreated GE, taking an inefficient company into an upwardly mobile

behemoth that sells airplane engines, provides mortgages and runs a TV network.

A ferocious deal-maker, he was named Manager of the Century by Fortune magazine.

For 20 years, Jack worked his way through GE, including the plastics division

and Credit corporation, rising to the top job in 1981, succeeding Reginald

Jones. When he retired, he left his hand-picked successor, Jeff Immelt. He

spent five weeks on a tour to promote the book that copped a $7 million dollar

advance, and was then available as a Consultant. He joined a New York private

equity firm as a special partner.

A slight man who speaks with a heavy Boston accent, Jack comes across like an

ordinary Joe, putting people at ease. He can be blunt, crude, coarse, profane

and funny, what may be called “paht of his chahm.” He’s a man’s man with three

passions; G.E., golf and the Boston Red Sox. He went through a divorce and two

heart attacks along the way and admits that he could have been a better dad to

his four kids. He was the only child of older parents. His dad was a conductor

on the railroad and he was closest to his mom, who encouraged his

self-confidence when he stuttered. He was devastated by her death in 1965. He

studied chemical engineering at the University of Illinois and started with GE

in 1960 at a salary of $10,500 a year.

When his first marriage broke up in 1987, he wrote that it was “difficult and

painful.” As to parenting, he could only note that he was “the ultimate

workaholic.” His second wife, Jane, is a spirited Alabama-born lawyer 17 years

younger than he. They both love golf and are both club champions. They live in

Connecticut but vacation in Nantucket. Welch's second marriage came to an end

with the public disclosure of his affair with Suzy Wetlaufer, 42, a divorce who

edits the Harvard Business Review. Wetlaufer was openly delighted in telling

colleagues that their relationship began in November 2001, after she completed

a series of interviews to compliment the publication of his book. It was

ongoing when it reached the pages of Time magazine in March 2002.

What Do You Think?

 

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Dear Partha,

Thanks for your splendid analysis. I am sure many beginners like me would have appreciated this

My apologies for not replying earlier. Pls allow me to ask further queries.

1) What is Vijaya yoga, the JHL software doesn't give this.

 

Partha:- Vijaya Yoga is combo of mars and rahu. Natives with such a yoga, would

be fighters in the areas where it is formed.

 

2) Did u mean that planets in lagna if tightly conjoined the ASc degree, it

gives a dynamic personality, I presume malefics would give a fearsome ,

outgoing , dynamic leadership quaility - Pls kindly correct me and guide me.

 

partha:- Planets conjunct Lagna degree impart their qualities to the maximum to

the lagna. Thus mars and rahu would mean an agressive and domineering

personality.

 

3) What is Rajya Pada A10 or A9

 

Partha:-Rajyasthana is 10th house, so rajya pada is A10 ofcourse.

 

4) When I saw the chart, what i could view only was , the exchange of 10th and

11th lords, exchange of 1st and 12th lords, 5th lord in 1st house - I thought

this is what made him great. Although earlier I used to think that Lagna lord

in the 12th house is bad and the person won't prosper, but now after viewing

some charts of established people I have noticed that it isnt so, infact many

people who are abroad or have gone abroad or have strong international

connections have this same combo ( I agree many other combos to be seen for

international travel)

Partha:-good analysis.

 

5) What depressed me was that his 10th house, his house of profession and karma

has deb Ven - I mean this guy did some of the best work, he has gone to create

history, his thuoghts are what todays managers aspire for, he was called an

unprofessional man having too much of emotionalism and displaying emotional

behaviour in corporate affairs - which is a corporate no no. Same Ven 4th and

11th L is in own sign ( if i am not wrong a Mahapurusha yoga) in the D10 chart,

along with Jup 9L and aspecting the 10th house of D10. If i remember correctly

PVR is of the opinion that Mahapurusha yoga is not applicable in Divisionals,

but others are not so.

 

Partha:-The rasi chart itself shows quite a few strong yogas. There is change of

Amatyakaraka from Mercury to Moon(both are in same longitude). And moon is

placed in 10th house from Natural Amatyakaraka Jupiter. Moon is also conjunct

Ghati lagna. Sun is the dispositor of Moon, and Sun is also the Ghati lagna

lord. Sun is with Jupiter the lagna lord, thus transfering the power(ghati

lagna) to the self!!

 

In his D10: 5th lord of opportunities in Lagna, lagna lord in the 9th house of

fortune, forms a good interplay I think, i wonder if this is of some

significance, pls guide.

I think there is a form of VRY, 3rd lord and 12th lord in the 11th house of income.

 

But what fails me to see is what is that few factors that made him a cult name.

The factors that u have outlined many I have understood but some are very high funda stuff

 

Partha:-Cult status is due to his AK conjunct lagna degree, Jupiter conjunct

Mahamatya Saham. Many planets are in 21-23 degree range. And many important

sahams such as Gaurava(Respect), Karma(profession), yasas(fame) are in the same

degrees,.Apart from the above, he has a strong gaja kesari yoga, Raja Yoga due

to debilitated venus in 10th( a special yoga for Dhanus lagna). My grandfather

has written a book on special yogas for all the lagnas. i will translate it one

day,

 

6) Referring back to your analysis, Sanjayji has mentioned in his article on

Bhanuji that nodes debilitated in the kendras , i think the 1/7 axis means that

he would do great work, and selfless act. I do not know if that principle, can

be applied here. I think Bhanuji's chart was with nodes deb with Gemini lagna,

so i dont know if one can apply that principle here, Gurus guide to correct me.

Coming to Jack Welch, one would say he was a person driven by his own ambition,

but to look at it diff maybe he would have done some great act of charity, i

dont know, but his book has inspired millions, the word GE has inspired and fed

millions .

What is the meaning of Tasmin ( u used it in ur email), still trying to wonder

here as to how deb nodes can give such great results ( referring to the point

where u used Narayana Dasa)

Usually astrologers frown upon deb nodes and act as if the person is a cursed sinner.

 

Partha :- Jaimini has said that deb nodes in kendras give wealth( a special raja

yoga, Tasmin uche ...)

 

7) I think what answer I was looking for as to why he became so great lys here

in what u wrote, but I wouldn'tbe able to understand it as it is complicated

stuff for my small mind. Words lke Isana Dasama , Maya Siddhamsa etc I do not

know the meanings. I think one day I shall ask u when i mature more in

astrology.

The most important point ofcourse is the fact that His Atma Karaka is Mars who

is in Isana Dasamsa, Maya Siddhamsa, and Karala Damshtra Sashtyamsa. WHile in

Dasamsa, mars in Isana has given him the vision to take his company forward,

and in Maya Siddhamsa has given him rare abilities to construct huge empire.

Karala Damshtra means frightful teethed, and this would imply a strong,

domineering CEO.

 

8) Why should Sun in the 2nd house in D10, bring huge gains in profession, could

u pls expand on this, i know this is basics but i am unable to understand the

importance of this apart from the fact taht sun is in Leo its own sign.

 

Partha:-Sun is his 2nd lord in Dasamsa and 2nd house in dasamsa indicates the

last part of career. Sun is a KING, and he being in his own house, made him

what he is today. Sun is also GHati lagna lord in rasi chakra, he is

Bhagyadhipati etc etc

 

9) What u explained about the title of his book was brilliant, a novel way of

looking at things, similarly i have heard Chandubhai use such techniques.

referrring to ur connection of 'Straight from the Gut' - Manipura Chakra-Agni

tatwa- Mars connection, I would like to add that his book has his name written

in Red, the color red being maritian in nature.

 

Partha:-thank you for the nice words. And it is really interesting to note that

he wrote in RED, confirming my earlier analysis.

 

Thanking you so much Partha, it really was a brilliant analysis from you as usual.

 

 

With blessings from the Divine Mother,

 

Sunil John

Mumbai

 

Thank YouBest wishes Partha

 

 

Sunil John <suniljohn_2004 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

 

 

-

partha sarathy

Sunil John

Cc: vedic astrology ; varahamihira

Monday, March 01, 2004 10:39 AM

Re: Jack Welch

Dear Sunil

 

Thanks for the query, i shall analyse the chart of Jack Welch.

Jack Welch is sagittarius rising, and the first thing that i could notice is the

Vijaya Yoga in lagna. The Mars and Rahu are tightly conjunct the lagna, within

an arc minute, and this defines his dynamic personality.

Mars in lagna makes a person cruel, short tempered, bellicose but an inspired

fighter. He has been called the manager of the century,if you look at his Rajya

Pada, you would notice that there is jupiter and Sun. Well jupiter in trines to

Rajya Pada does give big titles, the fact that there is Sun has given him the

title of a manager. Mercury in Al in libra has given him the tag of a maverick

deal maker(libra is all about deals and trading, mercury is the trader)

 

His Sudden elevation in 1981 can be attributed to some important factors.a)

Saturn and jupiter were transiting Virgo, which is his natal 10th house, and

also houses Venus. Thus there was bound to be good results pertaining to

career.,

 

b) In Rasi The narayana dasa of Gemini was running, and it had to give results

of debilitated nodes in kendra(Tasmin ...). This was sudden, and he beat out 6

other contenders, owing to the sudden factor of Ketu(Ketu can be very erratic,

sudden and here he is in gemini, whose lord mercury is in AL, thus giving the

sudden rise)

 

c) The narayana dasa in Dasamsa was of Libra-cancer. And it is clear from his

dasamsa. Libra houses the potent venus-jupiter combo, + the antardasa was of

lagna(cancer) thus giving results to the self.

 

d) His marriage has been troublesome affair. Rahu-ketu axis predominates in both

rasi chakra as well as Navamsa chakra. The fact that there is mars in 2nd house

in navamsa, ensured that he had some kind of secret affairs(Mars in scorpio),

and also a second marriage.

 

e) The most important point ofcourse is the fact that His Atma Karaka is Mars

who is in Isana Dasamsa, Maya Siddhamsa, and Karala Damshtra Sashtyamsa. WHile

in Dasamsa, mars in Isana has given him the vision to take his company forward,

and in Maya Siddhamsa has given him rare abilities to construct huge empire.

Karala Damshtra means frightful teethed, and this would imply a strong,

domineering CEO.

 

f) You can also note that Sun is in 2nd house in dasamsa, bringing him huge

gains with respect to his profession. 10th lord mercury is in Mesha navamsa,

signifying his fierce martian qualities.

 

g) ANother important point is the name of his famous book, which is "Straight

from the Gut". Gut is the area just above navel, and rules the Manipura Chakra.

It is agni tatwa, ruled by Mars, and the beeja for this chakra is Ram. Well you

can see the presence of Mars in the title of His book. Now we can understand

the AK Quite well.

 

best wishespartha

 

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Sunil John <suniljohn_2004 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Dear Partha,

Thanks once again for your splendid analysis. Kindly allow me to ask further queries. as SJ

 

Planets conjunct Lagna degree impart their qualities to the maximum to the

lagna. Thus mars and rahu would mean an agressive and domineering personality.

SJ: How much degrees orb is necessary for the planets to impart their qualities max to the lagna.

PARTHA:-That is given in standard texts, normally 5 degrees +/- is a influential

orb. But for different planets it is different, and you can get it from standard

texts, look for Varshaphal By B.V.Raman. Sun influences 15 degrees, saturn 9

etc.

 

 

Partha:-The rasi chart itself shows quite a few strong yogas. There is change of

Amatyakaraka from Mercury to Moon(both are in same longitude). And moon is

placed in 10th house from Natural Amatyakaraka Jupiter. Moon is also conjunct

Ghati lagna. Sun is the dispositor of Moon, and Sun is also the Ghati lagna

lord. Sun is with Jupiter the lagna lord, thus transfering the power(ghati

lagna) to the self!!

SJ: hmm thats a wonderful way of seeing this tapestry of linking the chart.

Could I ask you in a few days as to how the change of AK and AMK happens, it

has been on my mind for a very long time. I would like to ask a detailed

questionaire.

PARTHA:- Planets in the same degrees indicate change of chara karakas. Say mars

is in 23*54 scorpio, and saturn in 23*04 cancer, and Mars is BK, and Saturn MK,

then Saturn changes to BK after 28 years of age.

Partha:-Cult status is due to his AK conjunct lagna degree, Jupiter conjunct

Mahamatya Saham. Many planets are in 21-23 degree range. And many important

sahams such as Gaurava(Respect), Karma(profession), yasas(fame) are in the same

degrees,.Apart from the above, he has a strong gaja kesari yoga, Raja Yoga due

to debilitated venus in 10th( a special yoga for Dhanus lagna). My grandfather

has written a book on special yogas for all the lagnas. i will translate it one

day,

SJ: some of the things like Mahamatya Saham are beyond my understanding but

thanks for mentioning that which once again demonstrates that there are so many

factors to be seen among the charts of big timers. Why is the Gajakeshari Yoga

so strong, is it because Jup is in parivartana inspite of it being placed in

the 12th house of dusthana.

Now the special yoga for Dhanus Lagna which you mentioned is something very

interesting, would you indicate as to when u intended to translate your

grandfathers book, is it parampara knowledge which is not mentioned in the

classics.

Am being greedy here, any special yogas for Gemini lagna. :))

PARTHA:- For gemini lagna, mercury in 12th house is a special yoga. Jupiter in

12th is also a special yoga. I shall list it some other day.

Partha :- Jaimini has said that deb nodes in kendras give wealth( a special raja

yoga, Tasmin uche ..)

SJ: Dear Partha, I know of a chart of a lady who has Gemini lagna, Ketu in it

and it is 11th from AL, but still it hasn't given her great wealth so far. I am

not trying to question your authority just trying to research more, could you be

kind enough to state the chapter number and verse number of Jamini Upadeshas

where this special raja yoga, Tasmin Uche is mentioned.

Additionally, in the books of Chandubhai Patel on ARudha System also , among the

very first pages he has explained this same yoga, but i was thinking if u could

mention the page number of Jamini Upadeshas.

PARTHA:- i shall give it after searching

Partha:-Sun is his 2nd lord in Dasamsa and 2nd house in dasamsa indicates the

last part of career. Sun is a KING, and he being in his own house, made him

what he is today. Sun is also GHati lagna lord in rasi chakra, he is

Bhagyadhipati etc etc

SJ: If 2nd house and lord in Dasamsa indicates the last part of career, which is

the 1st part - the 1st house and lord and what do the other houses would

indicate - I mean logically there can be only 3 parts -1st, last and middle.

PARTHA:-6th house is first part, 10th house 2nd part, and 2nd house final part.

6th is apoklima-past, 10th is kendra-present, and 2nd is panaphara-future

 

 

This I copy from my last letter which didn't reach you

10) Thanks for explaining through diff dasa systems how he became the CEO.

To add and be corrected, on 20th Dec 1980, when Reg the current CEO came to his

office to announce that the board had chosen Jack as the CEO, the transits as

you said was that Jup and Sat in his 10th house, but I was under the

impression as to how this would give good results esp when Ven is deb over

there in natal chart.

Also on 1st April 1981, when he took over as the CEO in completeness, confusingly the transits were

Jup and Sat were retrograde ??? and Mars one of his most influential palnet was

in the 4th house aspecting the 10th house.

 

PARTHA:-you are missing an important point. Venus is the debilitated 6th lord,

which rules competition. No wonder my grandfather mentioned debilitated Venus

as a raja yoga for Dhanus lagna. Look at the dasa running Rahu-venus-saturn.

And saturn and jupiter are transiting over natal Venus, what else would point

to the raja yoga mentioned in the birth chart if not this!!

 

 

 

Thanking you so much Partha, it really was a brilliant analysis from you as usual.

 

On another note, his Indu lagna 21 deg ( u mentioned the imp of this) falls in

the house of cancer in the 8th house of sudden gains and is also with Sri

Lagna. For what I have learnt that for Indu lagna to give great financial

wealth, it has to be aspected by benefics, a parivartana Jup aspects it with

graha and Rasi drishti, Jup loves Cancer since it is here that it gets exalted.

Kindly correct my thought flow.

Thanks a lot

 

Joy, Abundance and Light

 

With the blessings of Divine Mother

 

Sunil John

Mumbai

 

Best wishes

Partha

 

 

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