Guest guest Posted December 19, 2003 Report Share Posted December 19, 2003 Respected Sir, Thanks for giving such a wonderful explanation to me. Could u please tell me the mantras for moon and other planets for strenghtening and the way to chant. also, could u please tell me about following (sorry for asking personal once again): 1)effects of position of saturn in life & any remedies if any need to be done ( as i had heard that luck can only be improved by Saturn if saturn is in 9th bhava )2)effects of position of Sun in life & any remedies if any need to be done3)effects of Rahu & Ketu in the chart being in same rashi in navmansha & any remedies if any need to be done Thanks once again, dhamakesin (AT) sysmatrix (DOT) net wrote: Dear Arun,The general idea is to strengthen natural benefics that are also temporal benefics when they are weak. You can also strengthen any house lord but at the expense of some other house. For example the lords of trines are the most beneficial as lords of Dharma houses. The lords of 3, 6, and 11 are generally malefic as they may promote implusive actions. The lagna lord should be strong to strenthen the body. The Moon should be strong to strengthen the mind (emotions), and the Sun should be strong to strengthen the soul. However sometimes, based upon the lordship and position of planets in divisional charts, even natural and temporat benefics may have some undesirable effects. However, the four areas of life should be balanced: Dharma (1-5-9), Artha (2-6-10), Kama (3-7-11), and Moksha (4-8-12). Strengthening 1-5-9 lords is a general rules that we be generally beneficial.For your chart the trinal lords are:9 - Moon5 - Jupiter1 - MarsHowever Parasara states that for Scorpio Mars is neutral in effect (as lord of 6th as well as lagna).Scorpio Lagna, lord Mars in 7th with Venus, Jupiter, enemy sign, and in 3rd in Navamsha exalted in Capricorn and with Saturn. -- Mars will give much passion. Wearing pink coral may help moderate this effect, but you would have to do a trial run. Red coral may increase passion and may not be best. Also being with two natural benefics Venus and Jupiter strengthens it. I think the combination of Jupiter, Venus, and Mars together in the 7th house will increase passion and sexual desire to a great degree and may cause dissatisfaction in relationships.Moon in Aries (friend) in 6th with Saturn aspect, in 8th in Navamsha in Gemini indicate some weakness and as the 9th lord may be strengthened by wearing a natural or tissue nucleated pearl. This may help with contentment and help remove depression. The other issue is that for fixed ascendents, the 9th lord causes some obstructions due to not listening to the Guru. The Moon may cause some rebelliousness in this respect that you will have to overcome to gain in Dharma.Jupiter as lord of 5 and 2 in 7th is in a great enemy sign and with Mars and Venus, with Rahu in the 11th in Gemini Navamsha. This indicates some mixed influence. Wearing Yellow Sapphire may be beneficial for intelligence in this case.The best to strengthen in this case I believe is the Moon.In any case you can use mantras for Moon or other planets you want to strengthen.Another analysis could be done on the basis of Arudha lagnas.Sincerely, Dhamakesin--- In , Arun <schoolfreinds> wrote:> Jai shri Krishna> > Sir, i am trying to learn this vidya by taking ny own example/birthchart so that i can also try/feel the effects of various planets than simply reading other charts> thanks> sanjayprabhakaran <sanjayp@s...> wrote:> || Om Gurave Namah ||> Dear Arun,> This is not a forum for getting personal readings and advices. > Please post such requests to lists like Vedic-Astrology or such > groups. Students and experts who have time may give you some advice > there.> Hope you will take it in right spirit.> > -Warm Regards> S. Prabhakaran> Om Tat Sat> > > , Arun <schoolfreinds> wrote:> > > > Jai Shri Krishana,> > > > Kindly put some light in detail in respect of following (DOB 09 > July 1977, Time 1615HRS, Kingsway Camp, New Delhi).> > > > - Position of Jupiter in the Rashi chart as Atmakaraka and > being lord of 2nd and 5th house and situated in 7th house, will its > strengthening by wearing Gem, be beneficial for native for its > carrier and business life and what about its position in D-10 in the > Lagna with Saturn.> > > > - Position of Sun in the Rashi Chart as Amatyakaraka and > being Lord of 10th house situated in 8th house, will its > strengthening by wearing Gem, be beneficial for native for its > carrier and business life and what about its position in D-10 in the > Lagna with Rahu and Mars.> > > > Thanks> > > > > > > > > > India Mobile: Ringtones, Wallpapers, Picture Messages and > more.Download now.> > > Sponsor> > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]> Send a blank mail> To : -> To : > > Your use of is subject to the > > India Mobile: Ringtones, Wallpapers, Picture Messages and more.Download now.[Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]Send a blank mailTo : -To : To visit your group on the web, go to:/ To from this group, send an email to: Your use of Groups is subject to the India Mobile: Ringtones, Wallpapers, Picture Messages and more. 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Guest guest Posted December 23, 2003 Report Share Posted December 23, 2003 Dear Arun, Sun as 9th lord in the 8th, and also Saturn in 9th: gains through wills and legacies and knowledge of occult and good intuition. But difficult for father and younger siblings and luck. -- Strengthen the 9th lord. Referring to the Scorpio lagna, you can do the mantra for the Moon. There may be some other remedies for Sun in 8th that you can do that I do not know. (The Sun mantra will produce positive results in this regard.) Saturn in the 9th can be good if it is a yogakaraka and a temporal benefic (not so in this case) or aspected by benefics (and Mercury is too mutable to help here). Rahu and Ketu together in same rashi in Navamsha indicates that during their dashas will both be positive or negative for Dharma (marriage, religion, etc.) depending upon what house they are in and what yogas occur. Negative in 3, 6, 8, or 12 and positive or neutral in other houses. It requires combining indications and using intuition to make a final determination. The rashi lagna is important overall. The Jaimini sutras are useful particularly in judging the navamaha. The problem with giving rules it that they are too general since you have to study the rashi and yogas and house yogas. Mantras I learned to chant the mantras silently. Some do so out loud. But the key is to have a devotional attitude and to concentrate, that is do not let the mind wander. I am giving some mantras below. I learned the first version with hrim. I suggest learning the mantra pronunciation from a tape or CD or from someone who knows the correct pronunciation. The description of the Shaktis are from Dr. David Frawley. Notice what the grahas excel at and you can see how even malefic grahas may benefit you. Saturn can be good for meditation by helping to increase concentration and discipline for example. Sun – Hrim, Harana Shakti, the power to hold, energize, attract and fascinate. "Om hrim suryaya namah" or "Om hrim hrim suryaya namah" or "Om sum suryaya namah" or "Om ghrinih suryaya namah" Chanted for 7,000 times during the dawn period. May be 108 per day and at other time. Moon – Shrim, Sharana Shakti, the power of refuge, surrender, peace and delight "Om hrim somaaya namah" or "Om som somaaya namah" or "Om hrim chandraaya namah" Chanted for 11,000 times during evening time. May be 108 per day and at other time. Mars – Krim, Karana Shakti, the power of action, work, motivation, and transformation. "Om hrim angaarakaaya namah" or "Om ang angaarakaaya namah" or "Om hrim mangalaaya namah" or "Om mam mangalaaya namah" Chanted for 10,000 times at 8 o' clock in the morning. May be 108 per day and at other time. Mercury – Aim, Vachana Shakti, the power of articulation, calling, guiding and teaching. "Om hrim budhaaya namah" or "Om bum budhaaya namah" Chanted for 9,000 times two hours after the sunrise. May be 108 per day and at other time. Jupiter – Strim, Starana Shakti, the power of expanding, unfolding, blossoming and evolving. "Om hrim brihaspataye namah" or "Om brim brihaspataye namah" Chanted for 19,000 times during the evening time. May be 108 per day and at other time. Venus – Klim, Kama Shakti, the power of love, delight, contentment and fulfillment. "Om hrim shukraaye namah" or "Om shum shukraaye namah" Chanted for 16,000 times during sunrise. May be 108 per day and at other time. Saturn – Hlim, Stambhana Shakti, the power of delaying, stopping, holding, and terminating. "Om hrim shrim shanischaraaye namah" or "Om sham shanischaraaye namah" Chanted for 23,000 times in the evening. May be 108 per day and at other time. Rahu – Dhum, Dhavana Shakti, the power of obscuring, hiding, protecting and preparing. "Om hrim raahave namah" or "Om ram raahave namah" Chanted 18,000 times during night. May be 108 per day and at other time. Ketu – Hum, Havana Shakti, the power of offering, sacrifice, destruction and transformation. "Om hrim ketave namah" or "Om kem ketave namah" Chanted 17,000 times during night. May be 108 per day and at other time. , Arun <schoolfreinds> wrote: > Respected Sir, > Thanks for giving such a wonderful explanation to me. > > Could u please tell me the mantras for moon and other planets for strenghtening and the way to chant. > > also, could u please tell me about following (sorry for asking personal once again): > 1)effects of position of saturn in life & any remedies if any need to be done ( as i had heard that luck can only be improved by Saturn if saturn is in 9th bhava ) > 2)effects of position of Sun in life & any remedies if any need to be done > 3)effects of Rahu & Ketu in the chart being in same rashi in navmansha & any remedies if any need to be done > > Thanks once again, > > > dhamakesin@s... wrote: > Dear Arun, > > The general idea is to strengthen natural benefics that are also > temporal benefics when they are weak. You can also strengthen any > house lord but at the expense of some other house. For example the > lords of trines are the most beneficial as lords of Dharma houses. > The lords of 3, 6, and 11 are generally malefic as they may promote > implusive actions. The lagna lord should be strong to strenthen the > body. The Moon should be strong to strengthen the mind (emotions), > and the Sun should be strong to strengthen the soul. However > sometimes, based upon the lordship and position of planets in > divisional charts, even natural and temporat benefics may have some > undesirable effects. However, the four areas of life should be > balanced: Dharma (1-5-9), Artha (2-6-10), Kama (3-7-11), and Moksha > (4-8-12). Strengthening 1-5-9 lords is a general rules that we be > generally beneficial. > > For your chart the trinal lords are: > 9 - Moon > 5 - Jupiter > 1 - Mars > > However Parasara states that for Scorpio Mars is neutral in effect > (as lord of 6th as well as lagna). > > Scorpio Lagna, lord Mars in 7th with Venus, Jupiter, enemy sign, and > in 3rd in Navamsha exalted in Capricorn and with Saturn. -- Mars will > give much passion. Wearing pink coral may help moderate this effect, > but you would have to do a trial run. Red coral may increase passion > and may not be best. Also being with two natural benefics Venus and > Jupiter strengthens it. I think the combination of Jupiter, Venus, > and Mars together in the 7th house will increase passion and sexual > desire to a great degree and may cause dissatisfaction in > relationships. > > Moon in Aries (friend) in 6th with Saturn aspect, in 8th in Navamsha > in Gemini indicate some weakness and as the 9th lord may be > strengthened by wearing a natural or tissue nucleated pearl. This > may help with contentment and help remove depression. The other > issue is that for fixed ascendents, the 9th lord causes some > obstructions due to not listening to the Guru. The Moon may cause > some rebelliousness in this respect that you will have to overcome to > gain in Dharma. > > Jupiter as lord of 5 and 2 in 7th is in a great enemy sign and with > Mars and Venus, with Rahu in the 11th in Gemini Navamsha. This > indicates some mixed influence. Wearing Yellow Sapphire may be > beneficial for intelligence in this case. > > The best to strengthen in this case I believe is the Moon. > > In any case you can use mantras for Moon or other planets you want to > strengthen. > > Another analysis could be done on the basis of Arudha lagnas. > > Sincerely, Dhamakesin > > , Arun <schoolfreinds> wrote: > > Jai shri Krishna > > > > Sir, i am trying to learn this vidya by taking ny own > example/birthchart so that i can also try/feel the effects of various > planets than simply reading other charts > > thanks > > sanjayprabhakaran <sanjayp@s...> wrote: > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > Dear Arun, > > This is not a forum for getting personal readings and advices. > > Please post such requests to lists like Vedic-Astrology or such > > groups. Students and experts who have time may give you some advice > > there. > > Hope you will take it in right spirit. > > > > -Warm Regards > > S. Prabhakaran > > Om Tat Sat > > > > > > , Arun <schoolfreinds> > wrote: > > > > > > Jai Shri Krishana, > > > > > > Kindly put some light in detail in respect of following (DOB 09 > > July 1977, Time 1615HRS, Kingsway Camp, New Delhi). > > > > > > - Position of Jupiter in the Rashi chart as Atmakaraka > and > > being lord of 2nd and 5th house and situated in 7th house, will its > > strengthening by wearing Gem, be beneficial for native for its > > carrier and business life and what about its position in D-10 in > the > > Lagna with Saturn. > > > > > > - Position of Sun in the Rashi Chart as Amatyakaraka and > > being Lord of 10th house situated in 8th house, will its > > strengthening by wearing Gem, be beneficial for native for its > > carrier and business life and what about its position in D-10 in > the > > Lagna with Rahu and Mars. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > India Mobile: Ringtones, Wallpapers, Picture Messages and > > more.Download now. > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah] > > Send a blank mail > > To : - > > To : > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > India Mobile: Ringtones, Wallpapers, Picture Messages and > more.Download now. > > > > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah] > Send a blank mail > To : - > To : > > > > > Links > > > / > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > India Mobile: Ringtones, Wallpapers, Picture Messages and more.Download now. 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Guest guest Posted December 24, 2003 Report Share Posted December 24, 2003 Dear Arun, I should have said: Sun as **10th** lord in the 8th, and also Saturn in 9th: gains through wills and legacies and **career** and knowledge in occult and good intuition. But difficult for father and younger siblings and luck. However the Moon in 6th favors detail or service occupations related to medical or restaurant work. (Career is difficult to assess without considering all influences on the 10th house lord -- and strength of lagna -- and significations and 10th division chart.) Sincerely, Dhamakesin , "dhamakesin" <dhamakesin@s...> wrote: > Dear Arun, > > Sun as 9th lord in the 8th, and also Saturn in 9th: gains through > wills and legacies and knowledge of occult and good intuition. But > difficult for father and younger siblings and luck. -- Strengthen > the 9th lord. Referring to the Scorpio lagna, you can do the mantra > for the Moon. There may be some other remedies for Sun in 8th that > you can do that I do not know. (The Sun mantra will produce positive > results in this regard.) > > Saturn in the 9th can be good if it is a yogakaraka and a temporal > benefic (not so in this case) or aspected by benefics (and Mercury is > too mutable to help here). > > Rahu and Ketu together in same rashi in Navamsha indicates that > during their dashas will both be positive or negative for Dharma > (marriage, religion, etc.) depending upon what house they are in and > what yogas occur. Negative in 3, 6, 8, or 12 and positive or neutral > in other houses. It requires combining indications and using > intuition to make a final determination. The rashi lagna is > important overall. The Jaimini sutras are useful particularly in > judging the navamaha. The problem with giving rules it that they are > too general since you have to study the rashi and yogas and house > yogas. > > Mantras > > I learned to chant the mantras silently. Some do so out loud. But > the key is to have a devotional attitude and to concentrate, that is > do not let the mind wander. I am giving some mantras below. I > learned the first version with hrim. I suggest learning the mantra > pronunciation from a tape or CD or from someone who knows the correct > pronunciation. The description of the Shaktis are from Dr. David > Frawley. Notice what the grahas excel at and you can see how even > malefic grahas may benefit you. Saturn can be good for meditation by > helping to increase concentration and discipline for example. > > Sun – Hrim, Harana Shakti, the power to hold, energize, attract and > fascinate. > "Om hrim suryaya namah" or > "Om hrim hrim suryaya namah" or > "Om sum suryaya namah" or > "Om ghrinih suryaya namah" > Chanted for 7,000 times during the dawn period. May be 108 per day > and at other time. > > Moon – Shrim, Sharana Shakti, the power of refuge, surrender, peace > and delight > "Om hrim somaaya namah" or > "Om som somaaya namah" or > "Om hrim chandraaya namah" > Chanted for 11,000 times during evening time. May be 108 per day and > at other time. > > Mars – Krim, Karana Shakti, the power of action, work, motivation, > and transformation. > "Om hrim angaarakaaya namah" or > "Om ang angaarakaaya namah" or > "Om hrim mangalaaya namah" or > "Om mam mangalaaya namah" > Chanted for 10,000 times at 8 o' clock in the morning. May be 108 > per day and at other time. > > Mercury – Aim, Vachana Shakti, the power of articulation, calling, > guiding and teaching. > "Om hrim budhaaya namah" or > "Om bum budhaaya namah" > Chanted for 9,000 times two hours after the sunrise. May be 108 per > day and at other time. > > Jupiter – Strim, Starana Shakti, the power of expanding, unfolding, > blossoming and evolving. > "Om hrim brihaspataye namah" or > "Om brim brihaspataye namah" > Chanted for 19,000 times during the evening time. May be 108 per day > and at other time. > > Venus – Klim, Kama Shakti, the power of love, delight, contentment > and fulfillment. > "Om hrim shukraaye namah" or > "Om shum shukraaye namah" > Chanted for 16,000 times during sunrise. May be 108 per day and at > other time. > > Saturn – Hlim, Stambhana Shakti, the power of delaying, stopping, > holding, and terminating. > "Om hrim shrim shanischaraaye namah" or > "Om sham shanischaraaye namah" > Chanted for 23,000 times in the evening. May be 108 per day and at > other time. > > Rahu – Dhum, Dhavana Shakti, the power of obscuring, hiding, > protecting and preparing. > "Om hrim raahave namah" or > "Om ram raahave namah" > Chanted 18,000 times during night. May be 108 per day and at other > time. > > Ketu – Hum, Havana Shakti, the power of offering, sacrifice, > destruction and transformation. > "Om hrim ketave namah" or > "Om kem ketave namah" > Chanted 17,000 times during night. May be 108 per day and at other > time. , Arun <schoolfreinds> wrote: > > Respected Sir, > > Thanks for giving such a wonderful explanation to me. > > > > Could u please tell me the mantras for moon and other planets for > strenghtening and the way to chant. > > > > also, could u please tell me about following (sorry for asking > personal once again): > > 1)effects of position of saturn in life & any remedies if any need > to be done ( as i had heard that luck can only be improved by Saturn > if saturn is in 9th bhava ) > > 2)effects of position of Sun in life & any remedies if any need to > be done > > 3)effects of Rahu & Ketu in the chart being in same rashi in > navmansha & any remedies if any need to be done > > > > Thanks once again, > > > > > > dhamakesin@s... wrote: > > Dear Arun, > > > > The general idea is to strengthen natural benefics that are also > > temporal benefics when they are weak. You can also strengthen any > > house lord but at the expense of some other house. For example the > > lords of trines are the most beneficial as lords of Dharma houses. > > The lords of 3, 6, and 11 are generally malefic as they may promote > > implusive actions. The lagna lord should be strong to strenthen > the > > body. The Moon should be strong to strengthen the mind (emotions), > > and the Sun should be strong to strengthen the soul. However > > sometimes, based upon the lordship and position of planets in > > divisional charts, even natural and temporat benefics may have some > > undesirable effects. However, the four areas of life should be > > balanced: Dharma (1-5-9), Artha (2-6-10), Kama (3-7-11), and > Moksha > > (4-8-12). Strengthening 1-5-9 lords is a general rules that we be > > generally beneficial. > > > > For your chart the trinal lords are: > > 9 - Moon > > 5 - Jupiter > > 1 - Mars > > > > However Parasara states that for Scorpio Mars is neutral in effect > > (as lord of 6th as well as lagna). > > > > Scorpio Lagna, lord Mars in 7th with Venus, Jupiter, enemy sign, > and > > in 3rd in Navamsha exalted in Capricorn and with Saturn. -- Mars > will > > give much passion. Wearing pink coral may help moderate this > effect, > > but you would have to do a trial run. Red coral may increase > passion > > and may not be best. Also being with two natural benefics Venus > and > > Jupiter strengthens it. I think the combination of Jupiter, Venus, > > and Mars together in the 7th house will increase passion and sexual > > desire to a great degree and may cause dissatisfaction in > > relationships. > > > > Moon in Aries (friend) in 6th with Saturn aspect, in 8th in > Navamsha > > in Gemini indicate some weakness and as the 9th lord may be > > strengthened by wearing a natural or tissue nucleated pearl. This > > may help with contentment and help remove depression. The other > > issue is that for fixed ascendents, the 9th lord causes some > > obstructions due to not listening to the Guru. The Moon may cause > > some rebelliousness in this respect that you will have to overcome > to > > gain in Dharma. > > > > Jupiter as lord of 5 and 2 in 7th is in a great enemy sign and with > > Mars and Venus, with Rahu in the 11th in Gemini Navamsha. This > > indicates some mixed influence. Wearing Yellow Sapphire may be > > beneficial for intelligence in this case. > > > > The best to strengthen in this case I believe is the Moon. > > > > In any case you can use mantras for Moon or other planets you want > to > > strengthen. > > > > Another analysis could be done on the basis of Arudha lagnas. > > > > Sincerely, Dhamakesin > > > > , Arun <schoolfreinds> > wrote: > > > Jai shri Krishna > > > > > > Sir, i am trying to learn this vidya by taking ny own > > example/birthchart so that i can also try/feel the effects of > various > > planets than simply reading other charts > > > thanks > > > sanjayprabhakaran <sanjayp@s...> wrote: > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > Dear Arun, > > > This is not a forum for getting personal readings and advices. > > > Please post such requests to lists like Vedic-Astrology or such > > > groups. Students and experts who have time may give you some > advice > > > there. > > > Hope you will take it in right spirit. > > > > > > -Warm Regards > > > S. Prabhakaran > > > Om Tat Sat > > > > > > > > > , Arun <schoolfreinds> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Jai Shri Krishana, > > > > > > > > Kindly put some light in detail in respect of following (DOB 09 > > > July 1977, Time 1615HRS, Kingsway Camp, New Delhi). > > > > > > > > - Position of Jupiter in the Rashi chart as Atmakaraka > > and > > > being lord of 2nd and 5th house and situated in 7th house, will > its > > > strengthening by wearing Gem, be beneficial for native for its > > > carrier and business life and what about its position in D-10 in > > the > > > Lagna with Saturn. > > > > > > > > - Position of Sun in the Rashi Chart as Amatyakaraka > and > > > being Lord of 10th house situated in 8th house, will its > > > strengthening by wearing Gem, be beneficial for native for its > > > carrier and business life and what about its position in D-10 in > > the > > > Lagna with Rahu and Mars. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > India Mobile: Ringtones, Wallpapers, Picture Messages > and > > > more.Download now. > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah] > > > Send a blank mail > > > To : - > > > To : > > > > > > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > India Mobile: Ringtones, Wallpapers, Picture Messages and > > more.Download now. > > > > > > > > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah] > > Send a blank mail > > To : - > > To : > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > / > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > India Mobile: Ringtones, Wallpapers, Picture Messages and > more.Download now. 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