Guest guest Posted October 25, 2003 Report Share Posted October 25, 2003 ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~ Dear Jay Weiss, Thanks for replying and giving me links. I couldn't understand by what you meant by 1st house definition. Kindly consider the following two examples and let me know, If my understanding is correct here also. Example 1: Rahu in Second, Ketu in 8th, all planets between Rahu and Ketu, i.e. from 3rd to 7th house, then it becomes KSY. On the other hand, if all the planets occupy houses 9th to 1st i.e. 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th and 1st, then it becomes KAY. (As now the planets are hemmed between Ketu and Rahu) Example 2: Rahu in Third, Ketu in 9th, all planets between Rahu and Ketu, i.e. from 4th to 8th house, then it becomes KSY. On the other hand, if all the planets occupy houses 10th to 2nd i.e. 10th, 11th, 12th, 1st, and second then it becomes KAY. (As now the planets come between Ketu and Rahu) Are the above two examples correct? Kindly Reply. I read in the links that planets moving towards Rahu/Ketu, it depends how we are looking at movement. >From one side, they can be seen moving towards Rahu, from other side, it can be seen as moving towards Ketu. sincere regards, Neeraj Gupta --- "J. Weiss" <jayhw wrote: > Dear Neeraj Gupta, > Your understanding is correct (as long as your 1st > house definition > corresponds to the house occupied by Rahu or Ketu). > Read more about KSY/KAY in the following articles: > http://www.angelfire.com/wizard/vedic/lesson15.html > http://www.komilla.com/pages/rahu-ketu.html > A good example at: > http://www.galacticcenter.org/money.htm > > Kind regards > /Jay Weiss > > - > "Neeraj Gupta" <gupta_neeraj_2000 > "GJ" <gjlist> > Saturday, October 25, 2003 8:42 AM > [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] KSY and KAY > > > > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~ > > > > Respected Gurus and Senior Members, > > > > Here is my understanding of KSY (Kaal Sarpa Yoga > )and > > KAY (Kala Amrita Yoga). Kindly confirm If my > > understanding is correct. > > > > 1) KSY - It occurs, when all planets are between > Rahu > > and Ketu, when seen in Zodical Order e.g Rahu in > First > > house, Ketu in 7th and all other planets between > 1st > > and 7th house. This Yoga creates problems in > natives > > lifes, difficulties and worries, and generally it > ends > > at 42 or 45 years of age. > > > > 2) KAY - It occurs, when all planets are between > Ketu > > and Rahu, when seen in Zodiacal Order, e.g. Ketu > in > > First, Rahu in 7th and all other planets between > 1st > > and 7th house. This makes one Spiritual in life. > > > > > > I would like Senior members / Gurus to kindly > correct > > me and help in understanding the differences > between > > KSY and KAY. > > > > sincere regards, > > > > Neeraj Gupta > > > > ===== > > http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/ > > > > > > > > The New with improved product > search > > > > > > > > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah] > > Send a blank mail > > To : > - > > To : > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > ===== http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/ The New with improved product search Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2003 Report Share Posted October 25, 2003 Dear Neeraj Gupta, > Example 1: Rahu in Second, Ketu in 8th, all planets > between Rahu and Ketu, i.e. from 3rd to 7th house, > then it becomes KSY. *** No. This is KAY. > On the other hand, if all the > planets occupy houses 9th to 1st i.e. 9th, 10th, 11th, > 12th and 1st, then it becomes KAY. (As now the planets > are hemmed between Ketu and Rahu) *** No. This is KSY See the picture below. Kind regards /Jay Weiss - "Neeraj Gupta" <gupta_neeraj_2000 <> Saturday, October 25, 2003 1:33 PM Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] KSY and KAY > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~ > > Dear Jay Weiss, > > Thanks for replying and giving me links. I couldn't > understand by what you meant by 1st house definition. > > Kindly consider the following two examples and let me > know, If my understanding is correct here also. > > Example 1: Rahu in Second, Ketu in 8th, all planets > between Rahu and Ketu, i.e. from 3rd to 7th house, > then it becomes KSY. On the other hand, if all the > planets occupy houses 9th to 1st i.e. 9th, 10th, 11th, > 12th and 1st, then it becomes KAY. (As now the planets > are hemmed between Ketu and Rahu) > > Example 2: Rahu in Third, Ketu in 9th, all planets > between Rahu and Ketu, i.e. from 4th to 8th house, > then it becomes KSY. On the other hand, if all the > planets occupy houses 10th to 2nd i.e. 10th, 11th, > 12th, 1st, and second then it becomes KAY. (As now the > planets come between Ketu and Rahu) > > Are the above two examples correct? Kindly Reply. I > read in the links that planets moving towards > Rahu/Ketu, it depends how we are looking at movement. > From one side, they can be seen moving towards Rahu, > from other side, it can be seen as moving towards > Ketu. > > sincere regards, > > Neeraj Gupta > > --- "J. Weiss" <jayhw wrote: > > Dear Neeraj Gupta, > > Your understanding is correct (as long as your 1st > > house definition > > corresponds to the house occupied by Rahu or Ketu). > > Read more about KSY/KAY in the following articles: > > http://www.angelfire.com/wizard/vedic/lesson15.html > > http://www.komilla.com/pages/rahu-ketu.html > > A good example at: > > http://www.galacticcenter.org/money.htm > > > > Kind regards > > /Jay Weiss > > > > - > > "Neeraj Gupta" <gupta_neeraj_2000 > > "GJ" <gjlist> > > Saturday, October 25, 2003 8:42 AM > > [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] KSY and KAY > > > > > > > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~ > > > > > > Respected Gurus and Senior Members, > > > > > > Here is my understanding of KSY (Kaal Sarpa Yoga > > )and > > > KAY (Kala Amrita Yoga). Kindly confirm If my > > > understanding is correct. > > > > > > 1) KSY - It occurs, when all planets are between > > Rahu > > > and Ketu, when seen in Zodical Order e.g Rahu in > > First > > > house, Ketu in 7th and all other planets between > > 1st > > > and 7th house. This Yoga creates problems in > > natives > > > lifes, difficulties and worries, and generally it > > ends > > > at 42 or 45 years of age. > > > > > > 2) KAY - It occurs, when all planets are between > > Ketu > > > and Rahu, when seen in Zodiacal Order, e.g. Ketu > > in > > > First, Rahu in 7th and all other planets between > > 1st > > > and 7th house. This makes one Spiritual in life. > > > > > > > > > I would like Senior members / Gurus to kindly > > correct > > > me and help in understanding the differences > > between > > > KSY and KAY. > > > > > > sincere regards, > > > > > > Neeraj Gupta > > > > > > ===== > > > http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/ > > > > > > > > > > > > The New with improved product > > search > > > > > > > > > > > > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah] > > > Send a blank mail > > > To : > > - > > > To : > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/ > > > > The New with improved product search > > > > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah] > Send a blank mail > To : - > To : > > Your use of is subject to > > > Attachment: (image/jpeg) ksy.jpg [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2003 Report Share Posted October 25, 2003 ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~ Dear Jay Weiss, Once again a question related to same topic. I had seen one chart (Jawahar Lal Nehru), 14th Nov, 1889, 11:21' PM IST, Allahabad. He was first prime minister of India. In his chart, Rahu is in 12th and ketu in 6th house, and all planet lie between 1st house and 5th house, and it is depicted as KAY. Kindly explain? why it is not KSY. Sincere Regards, Neeraj Gupta --- "J. Weiss" <jayhw wrote: > Dear Neeraj Gupta, > > > Example 1: Rahu in Second, Ketu in 8th, all > planets > > between Rahu and Ketu, i.e. from 3rd to 7th house, > > then it becomes KSY. > > *** No. This is KAY. > > > On the other hand, if all the > > planets occupy houses 9th to 1st i.e. 9th, 10th, > 11th, > > 12th and 1st, then it becomes KAY. (As now the > planets > > are hemmed between Ketu and Rahu) > > *** No. This is KSY > > See the picture below. > > > > Kind regards > /Jay Weiss > > > > > - > "Neeraj Gupta" <gupta_neeraj_2000 > <> > Saturday, October 25, 2003 1:33 PM > Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta > Gurukul] KSY and KAY > > > > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~ > > > > Dear Jay Weiss, > > > > Thanks for replying and giving me links. I > couldn't > > understand by what you meant by 1st house > definition. > > > > Kindly consider the following two examples and let > me > > know, If my understanding is correct here also. > > > > Example 1: Rahu in Second, Ketu in 8th, all > planets > > between Rahu and Ketu, i.e. from 3rd to 7th house, > > then it becomes KSY. On the other hand, if all the > > planets occupy houses 9th to 1st i.e. 9th, 10th, > 11th, > > 12th and 1st, then it becomes KAY. (As now the > planets > > are hemmed between Ketu and Rahu) > > > > Example 2: Rahu in Third, Ketu in 9th, all planets > > between Rahu and Ketu, i.e. from 4th to 8th house, > > then it becomes KSY. On the other hand, if all the > > planets occupy houses 10th to 2nd i.e. 10th, 11th, > > 12th, 1st, and second then it becomes KAY. (As now > the > > planets come between Ketu and Rahu) > > > > Are the above two examples correct? Kindly Reply. > I > > read in the links that planets moving towards > > Rahu/Ketu, it depends how we are looking at > movement. > > From one side, they can be seen moving towards > Rahu, > > from other side, it can be seen as moving towards > > Ketu. > > > > sincere regards, > > > > Neeraj Gupta > > > > --- "J. Weiss" <jayhw wrote: > > > Dear Neeraj Gupta, > > > Your understanding is correct (as long as your > 1st > > > house definition > > > corresponds to the house occupied by Rahu or > Ketu). > > > Read more about KSY/KAY in the following > articles: > > > > http://www.angelfire.com/wizard/vedic/lesson15.html > > > http://www.komilla.com/pages/rahu-ketu.html > > > A good example at: > > > http://www.galacticcenter.org/money.htm > > > > > > Kind regards > > > /Jay Weiss > > > > > > - > > > "Neeraj Gupta" > <gupta_neeraj_2000 > > > "GJ" <gjlist> > > > Saturday, October 25, 2003 8:42 AM > > > [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] KSY and KAY > > > > > > > > > > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~ > > > > > > > > Respected Gurus and Senior Members, > > > > > > > > Here is my understanding of KSY (Kaal Sarpa > Yoga > > > )and > > > > KAY (Kala Amrita Yoga). Kindly confirm If my > > > > understanding is correct. > > > > > > > > 1) KSY - It occurs, when all planets are > between > > > Rahu > > > > and Ketu, when seen in Zodical Order e.g Rahu > in > > > First > > > > house, Ketu in 7th and all other planets > between > > > 1st > > > > and 7th house. This Yoga creates problems in > > > natives > > > > lifes, difficulties and worries, and generally > it > > > ends > > > > at 42 or 45 years of age. > > > > > > > > 2) KAY - It occurs, when all planets are > between > > > Ketu > > > > and Rahu, when seen in Zodiacal Order, e.g. > Ketu > > > in > > > > First, Rahu in 7th and all other planets > between > > > 1st > > > > and 7th house. This makes one Spiritual in > life. > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like Senior members / Gurus to kindly > > > correct > > > > me and help in understanding the differences > > > between > > > > KSY and KAY. > > > > > > > > sincere regards, > > > > > > > > Neeraj Gupta > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The New with improved > product > > > search > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah] > > > > Send a blank mail > > > > To : > > > - > > > > To : > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/ > > > > > > > > The New with improved product > search > > > > > > > > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah] > > Send a blank mail > > To : > - > > To : > > > > === message truncated === > ATTACHMENT part 2 image/jpeg name=ksy.jpg ===== http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/ The New with improved product search Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2003 Report Share Posted October 25, 2003 Dear Neeraj Gupta, Because Ketu is "in the lead". To be a KSY all planets needed to be between 7th and 11th (or broken 6th to 12th). Kind regards /Jay Weiss - "Neeraj Gupta" <gupta_neeraj_2000 <> Saturday, October 25, 2003 6:05 PM Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] KSY and KAY > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~ > > Dear Jay Weiss, > > Once again a question related to same topic. > > I had seen one chart (Jawahar Lal Nehru), 14th Nov, > 1889, 11:21' PM IST, Allahabad. He was first prime > minister of India. In his chart, Rahu is in 12th and > ketu in 6th house, and all planet lie between 1st > house and 5th house, and it is depicted as KAY. > > Kindly explain? why it is not KSY. > > Sincere Regards, > > Neeraj Gupta > > --- "J. Weiss" <jayhw wrote: > > Dear Neeraj Gupta, > > > > > Example 1: Rahu in Second, Ketu in 8th, all > > planets > > > between Rahu and Ketu, i.e. from 3rd to 7th house, > > > then it becomes KSY. > > > > *** No. This is KAY. > > > > > On the other hand, if all the > > > planets occupy houses 9th to 1st i.e. 9th, 10th, > > 11th, > > > 12th and 1st, then it becomes KAY. (As now the > > planets > > > are hemmed between Ketu and Rahu) > > > > *** No. This is KSY > > > > See the picture below. > > > > > > > > Kind regards > > /Jay Weiss > > > > > > > > > > - > > "Neeraj Gupta" <gupta_neeraj_2000 > > <> > > Saturday, October 25, 2003 1:33 PM > > Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta > > Gurukul] KSY and KAY > > > > > > > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~ > > > > > > Dear Jay Weiss, > > > > > > Thanks for replying and giving me links. I > > couldn't > > > understand by what you meant by 1st house > > definition. > > > > > > Kindly consider the following two examples and let > > me > > > know, If my understanding is correct here also. > > > > > > Example 1: Rahu in Second, Ketu in 8th, all > > planets > > > between Rahu and Ketu, i.e. from 3rd to 7th house, > > > then it becomes KSY. On the other hand, if all the > > > planets occupy houses 9th to 1st i.e. 9th, 10th, > > 11th, > > > 12th and 1st, then it becomes KAY. (As now the > > planets > > > are hemmed between Ketu and Rahu) > > > > > > Example 2: Rahu in Third, Ketu in 9th, all planets > > > between Rahu and Ketu, i.e. from 4th to 8th house, > > > then it becomes KSY. On the other hand, if all the > > > planets occupy houses 10th to 2nd i.e. 10th, 11th, > > > 12th, 1st, and second then it becomes KAY. (As now > > the > > > planets come between Ketu and Rahu) > > > > > > Are the above two examples correct? Kindly Reply. > > I > > > read in the links that planets moving towards > > > Rahu/Ketu, it depends how we are looking at > > movement. > > > From one side, they can be seen moving towards > > Rahu, > > > from other side, it can be seen as moving towards > > > Ketu. > > > > > > sincere regards, > > > > > > Neeraj Gupta > > > > > > --- "J. Weiss" <jayhw wrote: > > > > Dear Neeraj Gupta, > > > > Your understanding is correct (as long as your > > 1st > > > > house definition > > > > corresponds to the house occupied by Rahu or > > Ketu). > > > > Read more about KSY/KAY in the following > > articles: > > > > > > http://www.angelfire.com/wizard/vedic/lesson15.html > > > > http://www.komilla.com/pages/rahu-ketu.html > > > > A good example at: > > > > http://www.galacticcenter.org/money.htm > > > > > > > > Kind regards > > > > /Jay Weiss > > > > > > > > - > > > > "Neeraj Gupta" > > <gupta_neeraj_2000 > > > > "GJ" <gjlist> > > > > Saturday, October 25, 2003 8:42 AM > > > > [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] KSY and KAY > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~ > > > > > > > > > > Respected Gurus and Senior Members, > > > > > > > > > > Here is my understanding of KSY (Kaal Sarpa > > Yoga > > > > )and > > > > > KAY (Kala Amrita Yoga). Kindly confirm If my > > > > > understanding is correct. > > > > > > > > > > 1) KSY - It occurs, when all planets are > > between > > > > Rahu > > > > > and Ketu, when seen in Zodical Order e.g Rahu > > in > > > > First > > > > > house, Ketu in 7th and all other planets > > between > > > > 1st > > > > > and 7th house. This Yoga creates problems in > > > > natives > > > > > lifes, difficulties and worries, and generally > > it > > > > ends > > > > > at 42 or 45 years of age. > > > > > > > > > > 2) KAY - It occurs, when all planets are > > between > > > > Ketu > > > > > and Rahu, when seen in Zodiacal Order, e.g. > > Ketu > > > > in > > > > > First, Rahu in 7th and all other planets > > between > > > > 1st > > > > > and 7th house. This makes one Spiritual in > > life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like Senior members / Gurus to kindly > > > > correct > > > > > me and help in understanding the differences > > > > between > > > > > KSY and KAY. > > > > > > > > > > sincere regards, > > > > > > > > > > Neeraj Gupta > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > > http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The New with improved > > product > > > > search > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah] > > > > > Send a blank mail > > > > > To : > > > > - > > > > > To : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/ > > > > > > > > > > > > The New with improved product > > search > > > > > > > > > > > > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah] > > > Send a blank mail > > > To : > > - > > > To : > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > ATTACHMENT part 2 image/jpeg name=ksy.jpg > > > > ===== > http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/ > > > > The New with improved product search > > > > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah] > Send a blank mail > To : - > To : > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2003 Report Share Posted October 26, 2003 Dear Jay/Neeraj, In that case Rahu's progress, which is antizodiacal would not trouble(Grasas) the planets. The order should be otherway round. If my understanding is incorrect kindly correct me. Regards, Chandrashekhar. J. Weiss wrote: Dear Neeraj Gupta, Your understanding is correct (as long as your 1st house definition corresponds to the house occupied by Rahu or Ketu). Read more about KSY/KAY in the following articles: http://www.angelfire.com/wizard/vedic/lesson15.html http://www.komilla.com/pages/rahu-ketu.html A good example at: http://www.galacticcenter.org/money.htm Kind regards /Jay Weiss - "Neeraj Gupta" <gupta_neeraj_2000 > "GJ" <gjlist> Saturday, October 25, 2003 8:42 AM [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] KSY and KAY > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~ > > Respected Gurus and Senior Members, > > Here is my understanding of KSY (Kaal Sarpa Yoga )and > KAY (Kala Amrita Yoga). Kindly confirm If my > understanding is correct. > > 1) KSY - It occurs, when all planets are between Rahu > and Ketu, when seen in Zodical Order e.g Rahu in First > house, Ketu in 7th and all other planets between 1st > and 7th house. This Yoga creates problems in natives > lifes, difficulties and worries, and generally it ends > at 42 or 45 years of age. > > 2) KAY - It occurs, when all planets are between Ketu > and Rahu, when seen in Zodiacal Order, e.g. Ketu in > First, Rahu in 7th and all other planets between 1st > and 7th house. This makes one Spiritual in life. > > > I would like Senior members / Gurus to kindly correct > me and help in understanding the differences between > KSY and KAY. > > sincere regards, > > Neeraj Gupta > > ===== > http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/ > > > > The New with improved product search > > > > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah] > Send a blank mail > To : - > To : > > Your use of is subject to > > > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah] Send a blank mail To : - To : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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