Guest guest Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Raj and Fatima, I tried making the chart with time zone of 5 hrs east of GMT (Rawalpindi, Pakistan) and I am getting Scorpio lagna from 10 am to approx 11.40 am. It changes to Sagittarius thereafter. I also see afflictions mostly in Virgo sign which signifies area below the Navel upto Basti. Varga chakra book also shows how to see scars, cuts by placement of malefics in various houses. I am not 100% clear but I have understood that malefics placed in the same drekkana as the lagna will show scars. For identification of body parts we need to refer to placement of malefics in D1 chart. The body parts are as follows; 1st Drekkana 2nd Drekkana 3rd Drekkana House 1 Head Neck Pelvis 2 Right Eye Right shoulder Anus, penis 3 Right Ear Right arm Right testicles 4 Right Nose Right side Right thigh 5 Right Temple Right heart Right knee 6 Right Chin Right stomach Right calf 7 Face/ Mouth Navel Foot 8 Left Chin Left stomach Right calf 9 Left Temple Left Heart Right knee 10 Left Nose Left side Right thigh 11 Left Ear Left arm Right testicles 12 Left Eye Left shoulder Anus, Penis I have not gone beyond this since time span is too wide. I will await further comments from learned members that may benefit us. I also understand that excess fat is often due to affliction of Jupiter. Retro Jupiter is debilitated in navamsa with Scorpio or Sagittarius lagna. Debilitated retro is generally not considered as debilitation. It is often seen as exaltation. It would be nice to have a learned member throwing more light on this. Kind Regards Ramesh Raj Bhardwaj [rajbhardwaj1949 (AT) (DOT) co.in]Monday, September 29, 2003 11:48 AMSubject: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: helpHello Fatima,I have seen your querry today and drawn your birth charts. Your correct time of birth appears to be 1200 noon. The description provided by you about your face/eyes and height as also the scars marks in your stomach area almost confirm it. How ? 1. Your Asc is Sc. As it is in the 1st Dreshkan your Asc in the D-3 is also Sc. Further Venus is aspecting your face area in Ar in both Lagna kundali as well as Navamsa Kundali(D-9). Your height and color math the description provided by you in the charts. As far scars due to operations in the stomach area are concerned , in your Asc and D-9 the 5th and 6th Rashi i.e. le and Vi, which denote the areas around stomach are affected by Sat, Sun, Rahu, Mars, Ketu. Not only operations. If I am not wrong, most of injuries/operations must have taken place in the Mars/Rahu Mahadashas, as Mars is your lord of 6th house also. I hope it answers your querries ?--- In , fatima hussain <fionatamer20002000> wrote:> hi,> i am a student, i just want if any one could help me clarify a problem regarding my birth time, according to my mother it is 10:20 while my father distinctly remembers it to be 12:00 noon, if i take 10:20 my ascendant becomes libra with venus in it, but at 12:00 noon scorpio is the ascendant, i have very fair complexion, tall ,broad and i am rather fat so would not this description fit a scorpio ascendant? > > date of birth = 04/september/1978.> time of birth = 10:20 a.m. / 11:59 a.m.> place = kharian ( district = Rawalindi ) pakistan, 073E52, 32N49.> > i have several scars due to operations on my abdomin, i have a broad face with brown eyes and dark brown/black hair, i am the first child of my parents, please have a look at my charts and help me figure out this delimma, although my guess is that i would be born in a scorpio ascendant, most gratefully, fatima.> > wrote:> > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]> Send a blank mail> To : -> To : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2003 Report Share Posted October 1, 2003 || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Jagannathan, What I was trying to say is that Jupiter does not make one fat, Rather it is Mercury's affliction one should look for to see over weight. Jupiter Rules fat. A Planet which rules the Tatwa does not afflict it. It's enemies etc afflict it. Here Jupiter is in Mercury's D30 and Lagna lord conjoined Mercury in D30. -Warm Regards S. Prabhakaran , kapisthalam jagannathan <jagannathankr> wrote: > Dear Sir, > Fat does not necessarily mean ugly."Sturdy cheek, > round forehead,etc are the results of exalted > Jupiter." > If Jupiter is debilitated such a person will be lean > .Such results are only possibilities. > With regards, > Jagannathan. > jagannathankr > > > --- sanjayprabhakaran <sanjayp@s...> > wrote: > > || Om Gurave Namah || > Dear Jagannathan, > If Extalted jupiter makes one fat. Then why does BPHS > says the > following for Hamsa Mahapurusha Yoga, > > 'The Hamsa native has voice, like a Hamsa, has a > handsome appearance > and well developed nose. He is a king with phlegmatic > temperament, > honey-like tawny-coloured eyes, red-coloured nails, > sharp > intelligence, sturdy cheeks, round forehead and > beautiful feet' > > And Saaravalli says, > 7-8. If Jupiter be in Cancer at birth, the native will > be a scholar, > be beautiful, be highly learned, charitable, > good-natured, be very > strong, be famous, will possess abundant grains and > riches, be > endowed with truth and penance, will have long-living > sons, be > honoured by all, will be a king, will have a > distinguished profession > and will be attached to his friends. > > Both mention the person being Handsome. > > > Warm Regards > S. Prabhakaran > > > > > , kapisthalam > jagannathan > <jagannathankr> wrote: > > Dear Sir > > May I add my view?. > > It is the exaltation of Jupiter that causes fatness. > > With regards, > > Jagannathan. > > > > > > > > > > --- Ramesh Gangaramani > > <ramesh.gangaramani@a...> wrote: > Satyam > > Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > Dear Raj and Fatima, > > > > > > I am sorry I made a mistake in data entry. It is > > > true that Lagna is Scorpio > > > @ 12 non and changes to Libra around 11.20am. Also > I > > > think the logic given > > > below applies to scars at birth. I am not sure > > > subsequent cuts etc will be > > > shown by these. > > > > > > Tall and fair characteristics would fit Libra more > > > that Scorpio. > > > > > > Jupiter is exalted in Cancer in either case. I > need > > > to understand what > > > contributes to fatness! > > > > > > Best Regards > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Gangaramani > > > [ramesh.gangaramani@a...] > > > Tuesday, September 30, 2003 9:21 PM > > > > > > RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: help > > > > > > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > Dear Raj and Fatima, > > > > > > I tried making the chart with time zone of 5 hrs > > > east of GMT (Rawalpindi, > > > Pakistan) and I am getting Scorpio lagna from 10 > am > > > to approx 11.40 am. It > > > changes to Sagittarius thereafter. I also see > > > afflictions mostly in Virgo > > > sign which signifies area below the Navel upto > > > Basti. > > > > > > Varga chakra book also shows how to see scars, > > > cuts by placement of > > > malefics in various houses. I am not 100% clear > but > > > I have understood that > > > malefics placed in the same drekkana as the lagna > > > will show scars. For > > > identification of body parts we need to refer to > > > placement of malefics in D1 > > > chart. The body parts are as follows; > > > 1st Drekkana > > > > 2nd Drekkana > > > 3rd Drekkana > > > > > > House > > > > > > 1 Head > > > Neck Pelvis > > > > > > 2 Right Eye > > > > Right > > > shoulder Anus, penis > > > > > > 3 Right Ear > > > > Right > > > arm Right testicles > > > > > > 4 Right Nose > > > > Right > > > side Right thigh > > > > > > 5 Right Temple > > > > Right > > > heart Right knee > > > > > > 6 Right Chin > > > > Right > > > stomach Right calf > > > > > > 7 Face/ Mouth > > > > Navel > > > Foot > > > > > > 8 Left Chin > > > > Left > > > stomach Right calf > > > > > > 9 Left Temple > > > > Left > > > Heart Right knee > > > > > > 10 Left Nose > > > > Left side > > > Right thigh > > > > > > 11 Left Ear > > > > Left arm > > > Right testicles > > > > > > 12 Left Eye > > > > Left > > > shoulder Anus, Penis > > > > > > > > > > > > I have not gone beyond this since time span is > too > > > wide. I will await > > > further comments from learned members that may > > > benefit us. I also understand > > > that excess fat is often due to affliction of > > > Jupiter. Retro Jupiter is > > > debilitated in navamsa with Scorpio or Sagittarius > > > lagna. Debilitated retro > > > is generally not considered as debilitation. It is > > > often seen as exaltation. > > > It would be nice to have a learned member throwing > > > more light on this. > > > > > > Kind Regards > > > > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > Raj Bhardwaj > > > [rajbhardwaj1949] > > > Monday, September 29, 2003 11:48 AM > > > > > > [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: help > > > > > > > > > Hello Fatima, > > > > > > I have seen your querry today and drawn your > > > birth charts. Your > > > correct time of birth appears to be 1200 noon. > > > The description > > > provided by you about your face/eyes and > height > > > as also the scars > > > marks in your stomach area almost confirm it. > > > How ? > > > > > > 1. Your Asc is Sc. As it is in the 1st > Dreshkan > > > your Asc in the D-3 > > > is also Sc. Further Venus is aspecting your > face > > > area in Ar in both > > > Lagna kundali as well as Navamsa Kundali(D-9). > > > Your height and color > > > math the description provided by you in the > > > charts. As far scars due > > > to operations in the stomach area are > concerned > > > , in your Asc and D-9 > > > the 5th and 6th Rashi i.e. le and Vi, which > > > denote the areas around > > > stomach are affected by Sat, Sun, Rahu, Mars, > > > Ketu. Not only > > > operations. If I am not wrong, most of > > > injuries/operations must have > > > taken place in the Mars/Rahu Mahadashas, as > Mars > > > is your lord of 6th > > > house also. I hope it answers your querries ? > > > > > > , fatima > > > hussain > > > <fionatamer20002000> wrote: > > > > hi, > > > > i am a student, i just want if any one could > > > help me clarify a > > > problem regarding my birth time, according to > my > > > mother it is 10:20 > > > while my father distinctly remembers it to be > > > 12:00 noon, if i take > > > 10:20 my ascendant becomes libra with venus in > > > it, but at 12:00 noon > > > scorpio is the ascendant, i have very fair > > > complexion, tall ,broad > > > and i am rather fat so would not this > > > description fit a scorpio > > > ascendant? > > > > > > > > date of birth = 04/september/1978. > > > > time of birth = 10:20 a.m. / 11:59 a.m. > > > > place = kharian ( district = > > > Rawalindi ) pakistan, 073E52, > > > 32N49. > > > > > > > > i have several scars due to > > > operations on my abdomin, i > > > have a broad face with brown eyes and dark > > > brown/black hair, i am the > > > first child of my parents, please have a look > at > > > my charts and help > > > me figure out this delimma, although my guess > is > > > that i would be born > > > in a scorpio ascendant, most gratefully, > fatima. > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah] > > > > Send a blank mail > > > > To : > > > - > > > > To : > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah] > > > Send a blank mail > > > To : > > > - > > > To : > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > > > > > Jagannathan . > > > > > > > ____________________ > __ > > India Matrimony: Find your partner online. > > Go to http://.shaadi.com > > > Sponsor > > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah] > Send a blank mail > To : - > To : > > > > Terms of Service. > > ===== > > > > Jagannathan . > > > ____________________ __ > India Matrimony: Find your partner online. > Go to http://.shaadi.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2003 Report Share Posted October 1, 2003 Dear Sanjay Prabhakar, Jagannathan, If I amy add my comments, the confusion probably is arising on account of different understanding of swaroopa of Jupiter. His swaroopa is Large. Being large does not necessarily mean being obese( in which way the term fat is usally understood). For obesity the addition of a Watery Rasi and involvement of watery planet would be required. Chandrashekhar. sanjayprabhakaran [sanjayp (AT) (DOT) org]Wednesday, October 01, 2003 9:24 PMTo: Subject: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: help|| Om Gurave Namah ||Dear Jagannathan,If Extalted jupiter makes one fat. Then why does BPHS says the following for Hamsa Mahapurusha Yoga,'The Hamsa native has voice, like a Hamsa, has a handsome appearance and well developed nose. He is a king with phlegmatic temperament, honey-like tawny-coloured eyes, red-coloured nails, sharp intelligence, sturdy cheeks, round forehead and beautiful feet'And Saaravalli says,7-8. If Jupiter be in Cancer at birth, the native will be a scholar, be beautiful, be highly learned, charitable, good-natured, be very strong, be famous, will possess abundant grains and riches, be endowed with truth and penance, will have long-living sons, be honoured by all, will be a king, will have a distinguished profession and will be attached to his friends. Both mention the person being Handsome.Warm RegardsS. Prabhakaran--- In , kapisthalam jagannathan <jagannathankr> wrote:> Dear Sir> May I add my view?.> It is the exaltation of Jupiter that causes fatness.> With regards,> Jagannathan.> > > > > --- Ramesh Gangaramani> <ramesh.gangaramani@a...> wrote: > Satyam> Bruyat Priyam Bruyat> > > > Dear Raj and Fatima,> > > > I am sorry I made a mistake in data entry. It is> > true that Lagna is Scorpio> > @ 12 non and changes to Libra around 11.20am. Also I> > think the logic given> > below applies to scars at birth. I am not sure> > subsequent cuts etc will be> > shown by these.> > > > Tall and fair characteristics would fit Libra more> > that Scorpio.> > > > Jupiter is exalted in Cancer in either case. I need> > to understand what> > contributes to fatness!> > > > Best Regards> > Ramesh> > > > > > Ramesh Gangaramani> > [ramesh.gangaramani@a...]> > Tuesday, September 30, 2003 9:21 PM> > > > Subject: RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: help> > > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat> > > > Dear Raj and Fatima,> > > > I tried making the chart with time zone of 5 hrs> > east of GMT (Rawalpindi,> > Pakistan) and I am getting Scorpio lagna from 10 am> > to approx 11.40 am. It> > changes to Sagittarius thereafter. I also see> > afflictions mostly in Virgo> > sign which signifies area below the Navel upto> > Basti.> > > > Varga chakra book also shows how to see scars,> > cuts by placement of> > malefics in various houses. I am not 100% clear but> > I have understood that> > malefics placed in the same drekkana as the lagna> > will show scars. For> > identification of body parts we need to refer to> > placement of malefics in D1> > chart. The body parts are as follows;> > 1st Drekkana > > 2nd Drekkana> > 3rd Drekkana> > > > House> > > > 1 Head> > Neck Pelvis> > > > 2 Right Eye > > Right> > shoulder Anus, penis> > > > 3 Right Ear > > Right> > arm Right testicles> > > > 4 Right Nose > > Right> > side Right thigh> > > > 5 Right Temple > > Right> > heart Right knee> > > > 6 Right Chin > > Right> > stomach Right calf> > > > 7 Face/ Mouth > > Navel> > Foot> > > > 8 Left Chin > > Left> > stomach Right calf> > > > 9 Left Temple > > Left> > Heart Right knee> > > > 10 Left Nose > > Left side> > Right thigh> > > > 11 Left Ear > > Left arm> > Right testicles> > > > 12 Left Eye > > Left> > shoulder Anus, Penis> > > > > > > > I have not gone beyond this since time span is too> > wide. I will await> > further comments from learned members that may> > benefit us. I also understand> > that excess fat is often due to affliction of> > Jupiter. Retro Jupiter is> > debilitated in navamsa with Scorpio or Sagittarius> > lagna. Debilitated retro> > is generally not considered as debilitation. It is> > often seen as exaltation.> > It would be nice to have a learned member throwing> > more light on this.> > > > Kind Regards> > > > Ramesh> > > > > > Raj Bhardwaj> > [rajbhardwaj1949]> > Monday, September 29, 2003 11:48 AM> > > > [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: help> > > > > > Hello Fatima,> > > > I have seen your querry today and drawn your> > birth charts. Your> > correct time of birth appears to be 1200 noon.> > The description> > provided by you about your face/eyes and height> > as also the scars> > marks in your stomach area almost confirm it.> > How ?> > > > 1. Your Asc is Sc. As it is in the 1st Dreshkan> > your Asc in the D-3> > is also Sc. Further Venus is aspecting your face> > area in Ar in both> > Lagna kundali as well as Navamsa Kundali(D-9).> > Your height and color> > math the description provided by you in the> > charts. As far scars due> > to operations in the stomach area are concerned> > , in your Asc and D-9> > the 5th and 6th Rashi i.e. le and Vi, which> > denote the areas around> > stomach are affected by Sat, Sun, Rahu, Mars,> > Ketu. Not only> > operations. If I am not wrong, most of> > injuries/operations must have> > taken place in the Mars/Rahu Mahadashas, as Mars> > is your lord of 6th> > house also. I hope it answers your querries ?> > > > , fatima> > hussain> > <fionatamer20002000> wrote:> > > hi,> > > i am a student, i just want if any one could> > help me clarify a> > problem regarding my birth time, according to my> > mother it is 10:20> > while my father distinctly remembers it to be> > 12:00 noon, if i take> > 10:20 my ascendant becomes libra with venus in> > it, but at 12:00 noon> > scorpio is the ascendant, i have very fair> > complexion, tall ,broad> > and i am rather fat so would not this> > description fit a scorpio> > ascendant?> > >> > > date of birth = 04/september/1978.> > > time of birth = 10:20 a.m. / 11:59 a.m.> > > place = kharian ( district => > Rawalindi ) pakistan, 073E52,> > 32N49.> > >> > > i have several scars due to> > operations on my abdomin, i> > have a broad face with brown eyes and dark> > brown/black hair, i am the> > first child of my parents, please have a look at> > my charts and help> > me figure out this delimma, although my guess is> > that i would be born> > in a scorpio ascendant, most gratefully, fatima.> > >> > > wrote:> > >> > > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]> > > Send a blank mail> > > To :> > -> > > To :> > > > > > > > Sponsor> > > > > > > > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]> > Send a blank mail> > To :> > -> > To :> > > > > > Your use of is subject to the > > Terms of Service.> > > > > > =====> > > > Jagannathan .> > > ______________________> India Matrimony: Find your partner online.> Go to http://.shaadi.com[Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]Send a blank mailTo : -To : Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2003 Report Share Posted October 1, 2003 Dear Shri.Jagannathan, You already have it!But let me give it to you anyway.16th May 1944 11.53pm IST Quilon,Kerala,India Regards Kaimal - kapisthalam jagannathan <jagannathankr <> Wednesday, October 01, 2003 10:45 PM Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: help > Dear Sir, > May I know your birth details?. > With regards, > jagannathan > > > > > > --- SRCKaimal <srckaimal wrote: > > Dear Sir, > My chart shows Hamsa Yoga.Lagna Capricon and Jupiter > exalted in Cancer.I am > not fat but there is a tendency for it if I am not > careful!And the other > things mentioned in BPHS and Saaravalli are precent to > some extend in > varying degrees though I am neither strong nor a > scholor. > Regards > Kaimal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2003 Report Share Posted October 2, 2003 Dear Sir, I thank you for your kind reply. With regards, jagannathan. --- SRCKaimal <srckaimal wrote: Dear Shri.Jagannathan, You already have it!But let me give it to you anyway.16th May 1944 11.53pm IST Quilon,Kerala,India Regards Kaimal - kapisthalam jagannathan <jagannathankr <> Wednesday, October 01, 2003 10:45 PM Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: help > Dear Sir, > May I know your birth details?. > With regards, > jagannathan > > > > > > --- SRCKaimal <srckaimal wrote: > > Dear Sir, > My chart shows Hamsa Yoga.Lagna Capricon and Jupiter > exalted in Cancer.I am > not fat but there is a tendency for it if I am not > careful!And the other > things mentioned in BPHS and Saaravalli are precent to > some extend in > varying degrees though I am neither strong nor a > scholor. > Regards > Kaimal Sponsor [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah] Send a blank mail To : - To : Terms of Service. ===== Jagannathan . ______________________ India Matrimony: Find your partner online. Go to http://.shaadi.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2003 Report Share Posted October 2, 2003 Sir, your observation that Mercury afflicts Jupiter to cause fatness is correct and possible.I think that you would have read Sri.Chandrasekharjis mail today.May I say,in addition,Jala rasi and jalatatwa graha are essential for obesity to develope. With regards, Jagannathan. --- sanjayprabhakaran <sanjayp wrote: || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Jagannathan, What I was trying to say is that Jupiter does not make one fat, Rather it is Mercury's affliction one should look for to see over weight. Jupiter Rules fat. A Planet which rules the Tatwa does not afflict it. It's enemies etc afflict it. Here Jupiter is in Mercury's D30 and Lagna lord conjoined Mercury in D30. -Warm Regards S. Prabhakaran , kapisthalam jagannathan <jagannathankr> wrote: > Dear Sir, > Fat does not necessarily mean ugly."Sturdy cheek, > round forehead,etc are the results of exalted > Jupiter." > If Jupiter is debilitated such a person will be lean > .Such results are only possibilities. > With regards, > Jagannathan. > jagannathankr > > > --- sanjayprabhakaran <sanjayp@s...> > wrote: > > || Om Gurave Namah || > Dear Jagannathan, > If Extalted jupiter makes one fat. Then why does BPHS > says the > following for Hamsa Mahapurusha Yoga, > > 'The Hamsa native has voice, like a Hamsa, has a > handsome appearance > and well developed nose. He is a king with phlegmatic > temperament, > honey-like tawny-coloured eyes, red-coloured nails, > sharp > intelligence, sturdy cheeks, round forehead and > beautiful feet' > > And Saaravalli says, > 7-8. If Jupiter be in Cancer at birth, the native will > be a scholar, > be beautiful, be highly learned, charitable, > good-natured, be very > strong, be famous, will possess abundant grains and > riches, be > endowed with truth and penance, will have long-living > sons, be > honoured by all, will be a king, will have a > distinguished profession > and will be attached to his friends. > > Both mention the person being Handsome. > > > Warm Regards > S. Prabhakaran > > > > > , kapisthalam > jagannathan > <jagannathankr> wrote: > > Dear Sir > > May I add my view?. > > It is the exaltation of Jupiter that causes fatness. > > With regards, > > Jagannathan. > > > > > > > > > > --- Ramesh Gangaramani > > <ramesh.gangaramani@a...> wrote: > Satyam > > Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > Dear Raj and Fatima, > > > > > > I am sorry I made a mistake in data entry. It is > > > true that Lagna is Scorpio > > > @ 12 non and changes to Libra around 11.20am. Also > I > > > think the logic given > > > below applies to scars at birth. I am not sure > > > subsequent cuts etc will be > > > shown by these. > > > > > > Tall and fair characteristics would fit Libra more > > > that Scorpio. > > > > > > Jupiter is exalted in Cancer in either case. I > need > > > to understand what > > > contributes to fatness! > > > > > > Best Regards > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Gangaramani > > > [ramesh.gangaramani@a...] > > > Tuesday, September 30, 2003 9:21 PM > > > > > > RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: help > > > > > > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > Dear Raj and Fatima, > > > > > > I tried making the chart with time zone of 5 hrs > > > east of GMT (Rawalpindi, > > > Pakistan) and I am getting Scorpio lagna from 10 > am > > > to approx 11.40 am. It > > > changes to Sagittarius thereafter. I also see > > > afflictions mostly in Virgo > > > sign which signifies area below the Navel upto > > > Basti. > > > > > > Varga chakra book also shows how to see scars, > > > cuts by placement of > > > malefics in various houses. I am not 100% clear > but > > > I have understood that > > > malefics placed in the same drekkana as the lagna > > > will show scars. For > > > identification of body parts we need to refer to > > > placement of malefics in D1 > > > chart. The body parts are as follows; > > > 1st Drekkana > > > > 2nd Drekkana > > > 3rd Drekkana > > > > > > House > > > > > > 1 Head > > > Neck Pelvis > > > > > > 2 Right Eye > > > > Right > > > shoulder Anus, penis > > > > > > 3 Right Ear > > > > Right > > > arm Right testicles > > > > > > 4 Right Nose > > > > Right > > > side Right thigh > > > > > > 5 Right Temple > > > > Right > > > heart Right knee > > > > > > 6 Right Chin > > > > Right > > > stomach Right calf > > > > > > 7 Face/ Mouth > > > > Navel > > > Foot > > > > > > 8 Left Chin > > > > Left > > > stomach Right calf > > > > > > 9 Left Temple > > > > Left > > > Heart Right knee > > > > > > 10 Left Nose > > > > Left side > > > Right thigh > > > > > > 11 Left Ear > > > > Left arm > > > Right testicles > > > > > > 12 Left Eye > > > > Left > > > shoulder Anus, Penis > > > > > > > > > > > > I have not gone beyond this since time span is > too > > > wide. I will await > > > further comments from learned members that may > > > benefit us. I also understand > > > that excess fat is often due to affliction of > > > Jupiter. Retro Jupiter is > > > debilitated in navamsa with Scorpio or Sagittarius > > > lagna. Debilitated retro > > > is generally not considered as debilitation. It is > > > often seen as exaltation. > > > It would be nice to have a learned member throwing > > > more light on this. > > > > > > Kind Regards > > > > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > Raj Bhardwaj > > > [rajbhardwaj1949] > > > Monday, September 29, 2003 11:48 AM > > > > > > [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: help > > > > > > > > > Hello Fatima, > > > > > > I have seen your querry today and drawn your > > > birth charts. Your > > > correct time of birth appears to be 1200 noon. > > > The description > > > provided by you about your face/eyes and > height > > > as also the scars > > > marks in your stomach area almost confirm it. > > > How ? > > > > > > 1. Your Asc is Sc. As it is in the 1st > Dreshkan > > > your Asc in the D-3 > > > is also Sc. Further Venus is aspecting your > face > > > area in Ar in both > > > Lagna kundali as well as Navamsa Kundali(D-9). > > > Your height and color > > > math the description provided by you in the > > > charts. As far scars due > > > to operations in the stomach area are > concerned > > > , in your Asc and D-9 > > > the 5th and 6th Rashi i.e. le and Vi, which > > > denote the areas around > > > stomach are affected by Sat, Sun, Rahu, Mars, > > > Ketu. Not only > > > operations. If I am not wrong, most of > > > injuries/operations must have > > > taken place in the Mars/Rahu Mahadashas, as > Mars > > > is your lord of 6th > > > house also. I hope it answers your querries ? > > > > > > , fatima > > > hussain > > > <fionatamer20002000> wrote: > > > > hi, > > > > i am a student, i just want if any one could > > > help me clarify a > > > problem regarding my birth time, according to > my > > > mother it is 10:20 > > > while my father distinctly remembers it to be > > > 12:00 noon, if i take > > > 10:20 my ascendant becomes libra with venus in > > > it, but at 12:00 noon > > > scorpio is the ascendant, i have very fair > > > complexion, tall ,broad > > > and i am rather fat so would not this > > > description fit a scorpio > > > ascendant? > > > > > > > > date of birth = 04/september/1978. > > > > time of birth = 10:20 a.m. / 11:59 a.m. > > > > place = kharian ( district = > > > Rawalindi ) pakistan, 073E52, > > > 32N49. > > > > > > > > i have several scars due to > > > operations on my abdomin, i > > > have a broad face with brown eyes and dark > > > brown/black hair, i am the > > > first child of my parents, please have a look > at > > > my charts and help > > > me figure out this delimma, although my guess > is > > > that i would be born > > > in a scorpio ascendant, most gratefully, > fatima. > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah] > > > > Send a blank mail > > > > To : > > > - > > > > To : > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah] > > > Send a blank mail > > > To : > > > - > > > To : > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > > > > > Jagannathan . > > > > > > > ____________________ > __ > > India Matrimony: Find your partner online. > > Go to http://.shaadi.com > > > Sponsor > > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah] > Send a blank mail > To : - > To : > > > > Terms of Service. > > ===== > > > > Jagannathan . > > > ____________________ __ > India Matrimony: Find your partner online. > Go to http://.shaadi.com Sponsor [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah] Send a blank mail To : - To : Terms of Service. ===== Jagannathan . ______________________ India Matrimony: Find your partner online. 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Guest guest Posted October 4, 2003 Report Share Posted October 4, 2003 Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Shri Chandrashekharji, Thank you for your help. In this case however with Libra Lagna we have an Airy sign with watery planet in lagna whereas with Scorpio lagna, a watery sign and Jupiter (akash tatva) aspecting it. I am attaching the chart for reference. Kind regards Ramesh Chandrashekhar Sharma [boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk]Thursday, October 02, 2003 12:30 AMTo: Subject: RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: help Dear Sanjay Prabhakar, Jagannathan, If I amy add my comments, the confusion probably is arising on account of different understanding of swaroopa of Jupiter. His swaroopa is Large. Being large does not necessarily mean being obese( in which way the term fat is usally understood). For obesity the addition of a Watery Rasi and involvement of watery planet would be required. Chandrashekhar. sanjayprabhakaran [sanjayp (AT) (DOT) org]Wednesday, October 01, 2003 9:24 PMTo: Subject: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: help|| Om Gurave Namah ||Dear Jagannathan,If Extalted jupiter makes one fat. Then why does BPHS says the following for Hamsa Mahapurusha Yoga,'The Hamsa native has voice, like a Hamsa, has a handsome appearance and well developed nose. He is a king with phlegmatic temperament, honey-like tawny-coloured eyes, red-coloured nails, sharp intelligence, sturdy cheeks, round forehead and beautiful feet'And Saaravalli says,7-8. If Jupiter be in Cancer at birth, the native will be a scholar, be beautiful, be highly learned, charitable, good-natured, be very strong, be famous, will possess abundant grains and riches, be endowed with truth and penance, will have long-living sons, be honoured by all, will be a king, will have a distinguished profession and will be attached to his friends. Both mention the person being Handsome.Warm RegardsS. Prabhakaran--- In , kapisthalam jagannathan <jagannathankr> wrote:> Dear Sir> May I add my view?.> It is the exaltation of Jupiter that causes fatness.> With regards,> Jagannathan.> > > > > --- Ramesh Gangaramani> <ramesh.gangaramani@a...> wrote: > Satyam> Bruyat Priyam Bruyat> > > > Dear Raj and Fatima,> > > > I am sorry I made a mistake in data entry. It is> > true that Lagna is Scorpio> > @ 12 non and changes to Libra around 11.20am. Also I> > think the logic given> > below applies to scars at birth. I am not sure> > subsequent cuts etc will be> > shown by these.> > > > Tall and fair characteristics would fit Libra more> > that Scorpio.> > > > Jupiter is exalted in Cancer in either case. I need> > to understand what> > contributes to fatness!> > > > Best Regards> > Ramesh> > > > > > Ramesh Gangaramani> > [ramesh.gangaramani@a...]> > Tuesday, September 30, 2003 9:21 PM> > > > Subject: RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: help> > > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat> > > > Dear Raj and Fatima,> > > > I tried making the chart with time zone of 5 hrs> > east of GMT (Rawalpindi,> > Pakistan) and I am getting Scorpio lagna from 10 am> > to approx 11.40 am. It> > changes to Sagittarius thereafter. I also see> > afflictions mostly in Virgo> > sign which signifies area below the Navel upto> > Basti.> > > > Varga chakra book also shows how to see scars,> > cuts by placement of> > malefics in various houses. I am not 100% clear but> > I have understood that> > malefics placed in the same drekkana as the lagna> > will show scars. For> > identification of body parts we need to refer to> > placement of malefics in D1> > chart. The body parts are as follows;> > 1st Drekkana > > 2nd Drekkana> > 3rd Drekkana> > > > House> > > > 1 Head> > Neck Pelvis> > > > 2 Right Eye > > Right> > shoulder Anus, penis> > > > 3 Right Ear > > Right> > arm Right testicles> > > > 4 Right Nose > > Right> > side Right thigh> > > > 5 Right Temple > > Right> > heart Right knee> > > > 6 Right Chin > > Right> > stomach Right calf> > > > 7 Face/ Mouth > > Navel> > Foot> > > > 8 Left Chin > > Left> > stomach Right calf> > > > 9 Left Temple > > Left> > Heart Right knee> > > > 10 Left Nose > > Left side> > Right thigh> > > > 11 Left Ear > > Left arm> > Right testicles> > > > 12 Left Eye > > Left> > shoulder Anus, Penis> > > > > > > > I have not gone beyond this since time span is too> > wide. I will await> > further comments from learned members that may> > benefit us. I also understand> > that excess fat is often due to affliction of> > Jupiter. Retro Jupiter is> > debilitated in navamsa with Scorpio or Sagittarius> > lagna. Debilitated retro> > is generally not considered as debilitation. It is> > often seen as exaltation.> > It would be nice to have a learned member throwing> > more light on this.> > > > Kind Regards> > > > Ramesh> > > > > > Raj Bhardwaj> > [rajbhardwaj1949]> > Monday, September 29, 2003 11:48 AM> > > > [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: help> > > > > > Hello Fatima,> > > > I have seen your querry today and drawn your> > birth charts. Your> > correct time of birth appears to be 1200 noon.> > The description> > provided by you about your face/eyes and height> > as also the scars> > marks in your stomach area almost confirm it.> > How ?> > > > 1. Your Asc is Sc. As it is in the 1st Dreshkan> > your Asc in the D-3> > is also Sc. Further Venus is aspecting your face> > area in Ar in both> > Lagna kundali as well as Navamsa Kundali(D-9).> > Your height and color> > math the description provided by you in the> > charts. As far scars due> > to operations in the stomach area are concerned> > , in your Asc and D-9> > the 5th and 6th Rashi i.e. le and Vi, which> > denote the areas around> > stomach are affected by Sat, Sun, Rahu, Mars,> > Ketu. Not only> > operations. If I am not wrong, most of> > injuries/operations must have> > taken place in the Mars/Rahu Mahadashas, as Mars> > is your lord of 6th> > house also. I hope it answers your querries ?> > > > , fatima> > hussain> > <fionatamer20002000> wrote:> > > hi,> > > i am a student, i just want if any one could> > help me clarify a> > problem regarding my birth time, according to my> > mother it is 10:20> > while my father distinctly remembers it to be> > 12:00 noon, if i take> > 10:20 my ascendant becomes libra with venus in> > it, but at 12:00 noon> > scorpio is the ascendant, i have very fair> > complexion, tall ,broad> > and i am rather fat so would not this> > description fit a scorpio> > ascendant?> > >> > > date of birth = 04/september/1978.> > > time of birth = 10:20 a.m. / 11:59 a.m.> > > place = kharian ( district => > Rawalindi ) pakistan, 073E52,> > 32N49.> > >> > > i have several scars due to> > operations on my abdomin, i> > have a broad face with brown eyes and dark> > brown/black hair, i am the> > first child of my parents, please have a look at> > my charts and help> > me figure out this delimma, although my guess is> > that i would be born> > in a scorpio ascendant, most gratefully, fatima.> > >> > > wrote:> > >> > > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]> > > Send a blank mail> > > To :> > -> > > To :> > > > > > > > Sponsor> > > > > > > > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]> > Send a blank mail> > To :> > -> > To :> > > > > > Your use of is subject to the > > Terms of Service.> > > > > > =====> > > > Jagannathan .> > > ______________________> India Matrimony: Find your partner online.> Go to http://.shaadi.com[Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]Send a blank mailTo : -To : Your use of is subject to the [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]Send a blank mailTo : -To : Your use of is subject to the Attachment: (application/octet-stream) Fatima.jhd [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2003 Report Share Posted October 5, 2003 Dear Ramesh, The problem is that Fatima is not sure about her birth time. However I think that the Lagna could be Libra rather than Scorpio. This would mean Venus a watery planet in Lagna and Jupiter in Jalachar rasi squaring lagna.Remember that planets in square from each other become paraspar karakas. It would also indicate mars's aspect on 7th causing cuts and scar in stomach region and other body parts aspected by him. Navamsha would also change and cannot be commented upon. Hope this helps. Chandrashekhar. Ramesh Gangaramani [ramesh.gangaramani (AT) ae (DOT) york.com]Sunday, October 05, 2003 10:22 AMSubject: RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: help Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Shri Chandrashekharji, Thank you for your help. In this case however with Libra Lagna we have an Airy sign with watery planet in lagna whereas with Scorpio lagna, a watery sign and Jupiter (akash tatva) aspecting it. I am attaching the chart for reference. Kind regards Ramesh Chandrashekhar Sharma [boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk]Thursday, October 02, 2003 12:30 AMTo: Subject: RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: help Dear Sanjay Prabhakar, Jagannathan, If I amy add my comments, the confusion probably is arising on account of different understanding of swaroopa of Jupiter. His swaroopa is Large. Being large does not necessarily mean being obese( in which way the term fat is usally understood). For obesity the addition of a Watery Rasi and involvement of watery planet would be required. Chandrashekhar. sanjayprabhakaran [sanjayp (AT) (DOT) org]Wednesday, October 01, 2003 9:24 PMTo: Subject: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: help|| Om Gurave Namah ||Dear Jagannathan,If Extalted jupiter makes one fat. Then why does BPHS says the following for Hamsa Mahapurusha Yoga,'The Hamsa native has voice, like a Hamsa, has a handsome appearance and well developed nose. He is a king with phlegmatic temperament, honey-like tawny-coloured eyes, red-coloured nails, sharp intelligence, sturdy cheeks, round forehead and beautiful feet'And Saaravalli says,7-8. If Jupiter be in Cancer at birth, the native will be a scholar, be beautiful, be highly learned, charitable, good-natured, be very strong, be famous, will possess abundant grains and riches, be endowed with truth and penance, will have long-living sons, be honoured by all, will be a king, will have a distinguished profession and will be attached to his friends. Both mention the person being Handsome.Warm RegardsS. Prabhakaran--- In , kapisthalam jagannathan <jagannathankr> wrote:> Dear Sir> May I add my view?.> It is the exaltation of Jupiter that causes fatness.> With regards,> Jagannathan.> > > > > --- Ramesh Gangaramani> <ramesh.gangaramani@a...> wrote: > Satyam> Bruyat Priyam Bruyat> > > > Dear Raj and Fatima,> > > > I am sorry I made a mistake in data entry. It is> > true that Lagna is Scorpio> > @ 12 non and changes to Libra around 11.20am. Also I> > think the logic given> > below applies to scars at birth. I am not sure> > subsequent cuts etc will be> > shown by these.> > > > Tall and fair characteristics would fit Libra more> > that Scorpio.> > > > Jupiter is exalted in Cancer in either case. I need> > to understand what> > contributes to fatness!> > > > Best Regards> > Ramesh> > > > > > Ramesh Gangaramani> > [ramesh.gangaramani@a...]> > Tuesday, September 30, 2003 9:21 PM> > > > Subject: RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: help> > > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat> > > > Dear Raj and Fatima,> > > > I tried making the chart with time zone of 5 hrs> > east of GMT (Rawalpindi,> > Pakistan) and I am getting Scorpio lagna from 10 am> > to approx 11.40 am. It> > changes to Sagittarius thereafter. I also see> > afflictions mostly in Virgo> > sign which signifies area below the Navel upto> > Basti.> > > > Varga chakra book also shows how to see scars,> > cuts by placement of> > malefics in various houses. I am not 100% clear but> > I have understood that> > malefics placed in the same drekkana as the lagna> > will show scars. For> > identification of body parts we need to refer to> > placement of malefics in D1> > chart. The body parts are as follows;> > 1st Drekkana > > 2nd Drekkana> > 3rd Drekkana> > > > House> > > > 1 Head> > Neck Pelvis> > > > 2 Right Eye > > Right> > shoulder Anus, penis> > > > 3 Right Ear > > Right> > arm Right testicles> > > > 4 Right Nose > > Right> > side Right thigh> > > > 5 Right Temple > > Right> > heart Right knee> > > > 6 Right Chin > > Right> > stomach Right calf> > > > 7 Face/ Mouth > > Navel> > Foot> > > > 8 Left Chin > > Left> > stomach Right calf> > > > 9 Left Temple > > Left> > Heart Right knee> > > > 10 Left Nose > > Left side> > Right thigh> > > > 11 Left Ear > > Left arm> > Right testicles> > > > 12 Left Eye > > Left> > shoulder Anus, Penis> > > > > > > > I have not gone beyond this since time span is too> > wide. I will await> > further comments from learned members that may> > benefit us. I also understand> > that excess fat is often due to affliction of> > Jupiter. Retro Jupiter is> > debilitated in navamsa with Scorpio or Sagittarius> > lagna. Debilitated retro> > is generally not considered as debilitation. It is> > often seen as exaltation.> > It would be nice to have a learned member throwing> > more light on this.> > > > Kind Regards> > > > Ramesh> > > > > > Raj Bhardwaj> > [rajbhardwaj1949]> > Monday, September 29, 2003 11:48 AM> > > > [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: help> > > > > > Hello Fatima,> > > > I have seen your querry today and drawn your> > birth charts. Your> > correct time of birth appears to be 1200 noon.> > The description> > provided by you about your face/eyes and height> > as also the scars> > marks in your stomach area almost confirm it.> > How ?> > > > 1. Your Asc is Sc. As it is in the 1st Dreshkan> > your Asc in the D-3> > is also Sc. Further Venus is aspecting your face> > area in Ar in both> > Lagna kundali as well as Navamsa Kundali(D-9).> > Your height and color> > math the description provided by you in the> > charts. As far scars due> > to operations in the stomach area are concerned> > , in your Asc and D-9> > the 5th and 6th Rashi i.e. le and Vi, which> > denote the areas around> > stomach are affected by Sat, Sun, Rahu, Mars,> > Ketu. Not only> > operations. If I am not wrong, most of> > injuries/operations must have> > taken place in the Mars/Rahu Mahadashas, as Mars> > is your lord of 6th> > house also. I hope it answers your querries ?> > > > , fatima> > hussain> > <fionatamer20002000> wrote:> > > hi,> > > i am a student, i just want if any one could> > help me clarify a> > problem regarding my birth time, according to my> > mother it is 10:20> > while my father distinctly remembers it to be> > 12:00 noon, if i take> > 10:20 my ascendant becomes libra with venus in> > it, but at 12:00 noon> > scorpio is the ascendant, i have very fair> > complexion, tall ,broad> > and i am rather fat so would not this> > description fit a scorpio> > ascendant?> > >> > > date of birth = 04/september/1978.> > > time of birth = 10:20 a.m. / 11:59 a.m.> > > place = kharian ( district => > Rawalindi ) pakistan, 073E52,> > 32N49.> > >> > > i have several scars due to> > operations on my abdomin, i> > have a broad face with brown eyes and dark> > brown/black hair, i am the> > first child of my parents, please have a look at> > my charts and help> > me figure out this delimma, although my guess is> > that i would be born> > in a scorpio ascendant, most gratefully, fatima.> > >> > > wrote:> > >> > > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]> > > Send a blank mail> > > To :> > -> > > To :> > > > > > > > Sponsor> > > > > > > > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]> > Send a blank mail> > To :> > -> > To :> > > > > > Your use of is subject to the > > Terms of Service.> > > > > > =====> > > > Jagannathan .> > > ______________________> India Matrimony: Find your partner online.> Go to http://.shaadi.com[Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]Send a blank mailTo : -To : Your use of is subject to the [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]Send a blank mailTo : -To : Your use of is subject to the [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]Send a blank mailTo : -To : Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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