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Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

 

Dear Raj and Fatima,

 

I tried making the chart with time zone of 5 hrs east of GMT (Rawalpindi,

Pakistan) and I am getting Scorpio lagna from 10 am to approx 11.40 am. It

changes to Sagittarius thereafter. I also see afflictions mostly in Virgo sign

which signifies area below the Navel upto Basti.

 

Varga chakra book also shows how to see scars, cuts by placement of malefics in

various houses. I am not 100% clear but I have understood that malefics placed

in the same drekkana as the lagna will show scars. For identification of body

parts we need to refer to placement of malefics in D1 chart. The body parts are

as follows;

1st Drekkana 2nd Drekkana

3rd Drekkana

House

1 Head Neck

Pelvis

2 Right Eye Right shoulder

Anus, penis

3 Right Ear Right arm

Right testicles

4 Right Nose Right side

Right thigh

5 Right Temple Right heart

Right knee

6 Right Chin Right stomach

Right calf

7 Face/ Mouth Navel

Foot

8 Left Chin Left stomach

Right calf

9 Left Temple Left Heart

Right knee

10 Left Nose Left side

Right thigh

11 Left Ear Left arm

Right testicles

12 Left Eye Left shoulder

Anus, Penis

 

I have not gone beyond this since time span is too wide. I will await further

comments from learned members that may benefit us. I also understand that

excess fat is often due to affliction of Jupiter. Retro Jupiter is debilitated

in navamsa with Scorpio or Sagittarius lagna. Debilitated retro is generally

not considered as debilitation. It is often seen as exaltation. It would be

nice to have a learned member throwing more light on this.

Kind Regards

Ramesh

Raj Bhardwaj

[rajbhardwaj1949 (AT) (DOT) co.in]Monday, September 29, 2003 11:48

AMSubject: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: helpHello

Fatima,I have seen your querry today and drawn your birth charts. Your correct

time of birth appears to be 1200 noon. The description provided by you about

your face/eyes and height as also the scars marks in your stomach area almost

confirm it. How ? 1. Your Asc is Sc. As it is in the 1st Dreshkan your Asc in

the D-3 is also Sc. Further Venus is aspecting your face area in Ar in both

Lagna kundali as well as Navamsa Kundali(D-9). Your height and color math the

description provided by you in the charts. As far scars due to operations in

the stomach area are concerned , in your Asc and D-9 the 5th and 6th Rashi i.e.

le and Vi, which denote the areas around stomach are affected by Sat, Sun,

Rahu, Mars, Ketu. Not only operations. If I am not wrong, most of

injuries/operations must have taken place in the Mars/Rahu Mahadashas, as Mars

is your lord of 6th house also. I hope it answers your querries ?--- In

, fatima hussain <fionatamer20002000> wrote:>

hi,> i am a student, i just want if any one could help me clarify a problem

regarding my birth time, according to my mother it is 10:20 while my father

distinctly remembers it to be 12:00 noon, if i take 10:20 my ascendant becomes

libra with venus in it, but at 12:00 noon scorpio is the ascendant, i have very

fair complexion, tall ,broad and i am rather fat so would not this description

fit a scorpio ascendant? > > date of birth = 04/september/1978.> time of birth

= 10:20 a.m. / 11:59 a.m.> place = kharian ( district = Rawalindi )

pakistan, 073E52, 32N49.> > i have several scars due to operations on

my abdomin, i have a broad face with brown eyes and dark brown/black hair, i am

the first child of my parents, please have a look at my charts and help me

figure out this delimma, although my guess is that i would be born in a scorpio

ascendant, most gratefully, fatima.> > wrote:> >

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|| Om Gurave Namah ||

Dear Jagannathan,

What I was trying to say is that Jupiter does not make one fat,

Rather it is Mercury's affliction one should look for to see over

weight.

Jupiter Rules fat. A Planet which rules the Tatwa does not afflict

it. It's enemies etc afflict it.

Here Jupiter is in Mercury's D30 and Lagna lord conjoined Mercury in

D30.

 

-Warm Regards

S. Prabhakaran

 

 

 

 

, kapisthalam jagannathan

<jagannathankr> wrote:

> Dear Sir,

> Fat does not necessarily mean ugly."Sturdy cheek,

> round forehead,etc are the results of exalted

> Jupiter."

> If Jupiter is debilitated such a person will be lean

> .Such results are only possibilities.

> With regards,

> Jagannathan.

> jagannathankr

>

>

> --- sanjayprabhakaran <sanjayp@s...>

> wrote:

>

> || Om Gurave Namah ||

> Dear Jagannathan,

> If Extalted jupiter makes one fat. Then why does BPHS

> says the

> following for Hamsa Mahapurusha Yoga,

>

> 'The Hamsa native has voice, like a Hamsa, has a

> handsome appearance

> and well developed nose. He is a king with phlegmatic

> temperament,

> honey-like tawny-coloured eyes, red-coloured nails,

> sharp

> intelligence, sturdy cheeks, round forehead and

> beautiful feet'

>

> And Saaravalli says,

> 7-8. If Jupiter be in Cancer at birth, the native will

> be a scholar,

> be beautiful, be highly learned, charitable,

> good-natured, be very

> strong, be famous, will possess abundant grains and

> riches, be

> endowed with truth and penance, will have long-living

> sons, be

> honoured by all, will be a king, will have a

> distinguished profession

> and will be attached to his friends.

>

> Both mention the person being Handsome.

>

>

> Warm Regards

> S. Prabhakaran

>

>

>

>

> , kapisthalam

> jagannathan

> <jagannathankr> wrote:

> > Dear Sir

> > May I add my view?.

> > It is the exaltation of Jupiter that causes fatness.

> > With regards,

> > Jagannathan.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --- Ramesh Gangaramani

> > <ramesh.gangaramani@a...> wrote: > Satyam

> > Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

> > >

> > > Dear Raj and Fatima,

> > >

> > > I am sorry I made a mistake in data entry. It is

> > > true that Lagna is Scorpio

> > > @ 12 non and changes to Libra around 11.20am. Also

> I

> > > think the logic given

> > > below applies to scars at birth. I am not sure

> > > subsequent cuts etc will be

> > > shown by these.

> > >

> > > Tall and fair characteristics would fit Libra more

> > > that Scorpio.

> > >

> > > Jupiter is exalted in Cancer in either case. I

> need

> > > to understand what

> > > contributes to fatness!

> > >

> > > Best Regards

> > > Ramesh

> > >

> > >

> > > Ramesh Gangaramani

> > > [ramesh.gangaramani@a...]

> > > Tuesday, September 30, 2003 9:21 PM

> > >

> > > RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: help

> > >

> > >

> > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

> > >

> > > Dear Raj and Fatima,

> > >

> > > I tried making the chart with time zone of 5 hrs

> > > east of GMT (Rawalpindi,

> > > Pakistan) and I am getting Scorpio lagna from 10

> am

> > > to approx 11.40 am. It

> > > changes to Sagittarius thereafter. I also see

> > > afflictions mostly in Virgo

> > > sign which signifies area below the Navel upto

> > > Basti.

> > >

> > > Varga chakra book also shows how to see scars,

> > > cuts by placement of

> > > malefics in various houses. I am not 100% clear

> but

> > > I have understood that

> > > malefics placed in the same drekkana as the lagna

> > > will show scars. For

> > > identification of body parts we need to refer to

> > > placement of malefics in D1

> > > chart. The body parts are as follows;

> > > 1st Drekkana

>

> > > 2nd Drekkana

> > > 3rd Drekkana

> > >

> > > House

> > >

> > > 1 Head

> > > Neck Pelvis

> > >

> > > 2 Right Eye

>

> > > Right

> > > shoulder Anus, penis

> > >

> > > 3 Right Ear

>

> > > Right

> > > arm Right testicles

> > >

> > > 4 Right Nose

>

> > > Right

> > > side Right thigh

> > >

> > > 5 Right Temple

>

> > > Right

> > > heart Right knee

> > >

> > > 6 Right Chin

>

> > > Right

> > > stomach Right calf

> > >

> > > 7 Face/ Mouth

>

> > > Navel

> > > Foot

> > >

> > > 8 Left Chin

>

> > > Left

> > > stomach Right calf

> > >

> > > 9 Left Temple

>

> > > Left

> > > Heart Right knee

> > >

> > > 10 Left Nose

>

> > > Left side

> > > Right thigh

> > >

> > > 11 Left Ear

>

> > > Left arm

> > > Right testicles

> > >

> > > 12 Left Eye

>

> > > Left

> > > shoulder Anus, Penis

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I have not gone beyond this since time span is

> too

> > > wide. I will await

> > > further comments from learned members that may

> > > benefit us. I also understand

> > > that excess fat is often due to affliction of

> > > Jupiter. Retro Jupiter is

> > > debilitated in navamsa with Scorpio or Sagittarius

> > > lagna. Debilitated retro

> > > is generally not considered as debilitation. It is

> > > often seen as exaltation.

> > > It would be nice to have a learned member throwing

> > > more light on this.

> > >

> > > Kind Regards

> > >

> > > Ramesh

> > >

> > >

> > > Raj Bhardwaj

> > > [rajbhardwaj1949]

> > > Monday, September 29, 2003 11:48 AM

> > >

> > > [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: help

> > >

> > >

> > > Hello Fatima,

> > >

> > > I have seen your querry today and drawn your

> > > birth charts. Your

> > > correct time of birth appears to be 1200 noon.

> > > The description

> > > provided by you about your face/eyes and

> height

> > > as also the scars

> > > marks in your stomach area almost confirm it.

> > > How ?

> > >

> > > 1. Your Asc is Sc. As it is in the 1st

> Dreshkan

> > > your Asc in the D-3

> > > is also Sc. Further Venus is aspecting your

> face

> > > area in Ar in both

> > > Lagna kundali as well as Navamsa Kundali(D-9).

> > > Your height and color

> > > math the description provided by you in the

> > > charts. As far scars due

> > > to operations in the stomach area are

> concerned

> > > , in your Asc and D-9

> > > the 5th and 6th Rashi i.e. le and Vi, which

> > > denote the areas around

> > > stomach are affected by Sat, Sun, Rahu, Mars,

> > > Ketu. Not only

> > > operations. If I am not wrong, most of

> > > injuries/operations must have

> > > taken place in the Mars/Rahu Mahadashas, as

> Mars

> > > is your lord of 6th

> > > house also. I hope it answers your querries ?

> > >

> > > , fatima

> > > hussain

> > > <fionatamer20002000> wrote:

> > > > hi,

> > > > i am a student, i just want if any one could

> > > help me clarify a

> > > problem regarding my birth time, according to

> my

> > > mother it is 10:20

> > > while my father distinctly remembers it to be

> > > 12:00 noon, if i take

> > > 10:20 my ascendant becomes libra with venus in

> > > it, but at 12:00 noon

> > > scorpio is the ascendant, i have very fair

> > > complexion, tall ,broad

> > > and i am rather fat so would not this

> > > description fit a scorpio

> > > ascendant?

> > > >

> > > > date of birth = 04/september/1978.

> > > > time of birth = 10:20 a.m. / 11:59 a.m.

> > > > place = kharian ( district =

> > > Rawalindi ) pakistan, 073E52,

> > > 32N49.

> > > >

> > > > i have several scars due to

> > > operations on my abdomin, i

> > > have a broad face with brown eyes and dark

> > > brown/black hair, i am the

> > > first child of my parents, please have a look

> at

> > > my charts and help

> > > me figure out this delimma, although my guess

> is

> > > that i would be born

> > > in a scorpio ascendant, most gratefully,

> fatima.

> > > >

> > > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]

> > > > Send a blank mail

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Dear Sanjay Prabhakar, Jagannathan,

If I amy add my comments, the confusion probably is arising on account of

different understanding of swaroopa of Jupiter. His swaroopa is Large. Being

large does not necessarily mean being obese( in which way the term fat is

usally understood). For obesity the addition of a Watery Rasi and involvement

of watery planet would be required.

Chandrashekhar.

sanjayprabhakaran

[sanjayp (AT) (DOT) org]Wednesday, October 01, 2003 9:24 PMTo:

Subject: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: help|| Om

Gurave Namah ||Dear Jagannathan,If Extalted jupiter makes one fat. Then why

does BPHS says the following for Hamsa Mahapurusha Yoga,'The Hamsa native has

voice, like a Hamsa, has a handsome appearance and well developed nose. He is a

king with phlegmatic temperament, honey-like tawny-coloured eyes, red-coloured

nails, sharp intelligence, sturdy cheeks, round forehead and beautiful feet'And

Saaravalli says,7-8. If Jupiter be in Cancer at birth, the native will be a

scholar, be beautiful, be highly learned, charitable, good-natured, be very

strong, be famous, will possess abundant grains and riches, be endowed with

truth and penance, will have long-living sons, be honoured by all, will be a

king, will have a distinguished profession and will be attached to his friends.

Both mention the person being Handsome.Warm RegardsS. Prabhakaran--- In

, kapisthalam jagannathan <jagannathankr>

wrote:> Dear Sir> May I add my view?.> It is the exaltation of Jupiter that

causes fatness.> With regards,> Jagannathan.> > > > > --- Ramesh Gangaramani>

<ramesh.gangaramani@a...> wrote: > Satyam> Bruyat Priyam Bruyat> > > > Dear Raj

and Fatima,> > > > I am sorry I made a mistake in data entry. It is> > true that

Lagna is Scorpio> > @ 12 non and changes to Libra around 11.20am. Also I> >

think the logic given> > below applies to scars at birth. I am not sure> >

subsequent cuts etc will be> > shown by these.> > > > Tall and fair

characteristics would fit Libra more> > that Scorpio.> > > > Jupiter is exalted

in Cancer in either case. I need> > to understand what> > contributes to

fatness!> > > > Best Regards> > Ramesh> > > > > >

Ramesh Gangaramani> > [ramesh.gangaramani@a...]> > Tuesday,

September 30, 2003 9:21 PM> > > > Subject:

RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: help> > > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat> >

> > Dear Raj and Fatima,> > > > I tried making the chart with time zone of 5

hrs> > east of GMT (Rawalpindi,> > Pakistan) and I am getting Scorpio lagna from

10 am> > to approx 11.40 am. It> > changes to Sagittarius thereafter. I also

see> > afflictions mostly in Virgo> > sign which signifies area below the Navel

upto> > Basti.> > > > Varga chakra book also shows how to see scars,> > cuts

by placement of> > malefics in various houses. I am not 100% clear but> > I

have understood that> > malefics placed in the same drekkana as the lagna> >

will show scars. For> > identification of body parts we need to refer to> >

placement of malefics in D1> > chart. The body parts are as follows;> >

1st Drekkana > > 2nd Drekkana> > 3rd

Drekkana> > > > House> > > > 1 Head> > Neck

Pelvis> > > > 2

Right Eye > > Right> > shoulder

Anus, penis> > > > 3 Right Ear > >

Right> > arm Right testicles> > > > 4

Right Nose > > Right> > side

Right thigh> > > > 5 Right

Temple > > Right> > heart Right

knee> > > > 6 Right Chin > >

Right> > stomach Right calf> > > > 7

Face/ Mouth > > Navel> > Foot> > > > 8

Left Chin > > Left> > stomach

Right calf> > > > 9 Left

Temple > > Left> > Heart Right

knee> > > > 10 Left Nose > >

Left side> > Right thigh> > > > 11 Left Ear

> > Left arm> > Right testicles> > > > 12

Left Eye > > Left> > shoulder

Anus, Penis> > > > > > > > I have not gone beyond this since time span is

too> > wide. I will await> > further comments from learned members that may> >

benefit us. I also understand> > that excess fat is often due to affliction of>

> Jupiter. Retro Jupiter is> > debilitated in navamsa with Scorpio or

Sagittarius> > lagna. Debilitated retro> > is generally not considered as

debilitation. It is> > often seen as exaltation.> > It would be nice to have a

learned member throwing> > more light on this.> > > > Kind Regards> > > >

Ramesh> > > > > > Raj Bhardwaj> >

[rajbhardwaj1949]> > Monday, September 29, 2003 11:48 AM>

> > > [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul]

Re: help> > > > > > Hello Fatima,> > > > I have seen your querry today

and drawn your> > birth charts. Your> > correct time of birth appears to be

1200 noon.> > The description> > provided by you about your face/eyes and

height> > as also the scars> > marks in your stomach area almost confirm

it.> > How ?> > > > 1. Your Asc is Sc. As it is in the 1st Dreshkan> >

your Asc in the D-3> > is also Sc. Further Venus is aspecting your face> >

area in Ar in both> > Lagna kundali as well as Navamsa Kundali(D-9).> >

Your height and color> > math the description provided by you in the> >

charts. As far scars due> > to operations in the stomach area are

concerned> > , in your Asc and D-9> > the 5th and 6th Rashi i.e. le and Vi,

which> > denote the areas around> > stomach are affected by Sat, Sun, Rahu,

Mars,> > Ketu. Not only> > operations. If I am not wrong, most of> >

injuries/operations must have> > taken place in the Mars/Rahu Mahadashas,

as Mars> > is your lord of 6th> > house also. I hope it answers your

querries ?> > > > , fatima> > hussain> >

<fionatamer20002000> wrote:> > > hi,> > > i am a student, i

just want if any one could> > help me clarify a> > problem regarding my

birth time, according to my> > mother it is 10:20> > while my father

distinctly remembers it to be> > 12:00 noon, if i take> > 10:20 my

ascendant becomes libra with venus in> > it, but at 12:00 noon> > scorpio

is the ascendant, i have very fair> > complexion, tall ,broad> > and i am

rather fat so would not this> > description fit a scorpio> > ascendant?> >

>> > > date of birth = 04/september/1978.> > > time of birth = 10:20

a.m. / 11:59 a.m.> > > place = kharian ( district => > Rawalindi )

pakistan, 073E52,> > 32N49.> > >> > > i have several scars

due to> > operations on my abdomin, i> > have a broad face with brown eyes

and dark> > brown/black hair, i am the> > first child of my parents, please

have a look at> > my charts and help> > me figure out this delimma, although

my guess is> > that i would be born> > in a scorpio ascendant, most

gratefully, fatima.> > >> > > wrote:> >

>> > > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]> > > Send a blank

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Dear Shri.Jagannathan,

You already have it!But let me give it to you anyway.16th May 1944 11.53pm

IST Quilon,Kerala,India

Regards

Kaimal

-

kapisthalam jagannathan <jagannathankr

<>

Wednesday, October 01, 2003 10:45 PM

Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: help

 

 

> Dear Sir,

> May I know your birth details?.

> With regards,

> jagannathan

>

>

>

>

>

> --- SRCKaimal <srckaimal wrote:

>

> Dear Sir,

> My chart shows Hamsa Yoga.Lagna Capricon and Jupiter

> exalted in Cancer.I am

> not fat but there is a tendency for it if I am not

> careful!And the other

> things mentioned in BPHS and Saaravalli are precent to

> some extend in

> varying degrees though I am neither strong nor a

> scholor.

> Regards

> Kaimal

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Dear Sir,

I thank you for your kind reply.

With regards,

jagannathan.

 

 

 

--- SRCKaimal <srckaimal wrote:

 

Dear Shri.Jagannathan,

You already have it!But let me give it to you

anyway.16th May 1944 11.53pm

IST Quilon,Kerala,India

Regards

Kaimal

-

kapisthalam jagannathan

<jagannathankr

<>

Wednesday, October 01, 2003 10:45 PM

Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: help

 

 

> Dear Sir,

> May I know your birth details?.

> With regards,

> jagannathan

>

>

>

>

>

> --- SRCKaimal <srckaimal wrote:

>

> Dear Sir,

> My chart shows Hamsa Yoga.Lagna Capricon and Jupiter

> exalted in Cancer.I am

> not fat but there is a tendency for it if I am not

> careful!And the other

> things mentioned in BPHS and Saaravalli are precent

to

> some extend in

> varying degrees though I am neither strong nor a

> scholor.

> Regards

> Kaimal

 

 

 

 

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Sir,

your observation that Mercury afflicts Jupiter to

cause fatness is correct and possible.I think that you

would have read Sri.Chandrasekharjis mail today.May I

say,in addition,Jala rasi and jalatatwa graha are

essential for obesity to develope.

With regards,

Jagannathan.

 

 

 

 

 

--- sanjayprabhakaran <sanjayp

wrote:

 

|| Om Gurave Namah ||

Dear Jagannathan,

What I was trying to say is that Jupiter does not

make one fat,

Rather it is Mercury's affliction one should look for

to see over

weight.

Jupiter Rules fat. A Planet which rules the Tatwa does

not afflict

it. It's enemies etc afflict it.

Here Jupiter is in Mercury's D30 and Lagna lord

conjoined Mercury in

D30.

 

-Warm Regards

S. Prabhakaran

 

 

 

 

, kapisthalam

jagannathan

<jagannathankr> wrote:

> Dear Sir,

> Fat does not necessarily mean ugly."Sturdy cheek,

> round forehead,etc are the results of exalted

> Jupiter."

> If Jupiter is debilitated such a person will be lean

> .Such results are only possibilities.

> With regards,

> Jagannathan.

> jagannathankr

>

>

> --- sanjayprabhakaran <sanjayp@s...>

> wrote:

>

> || Om Gurave Namah ||

> Dear Jagannathan,

> If Extalted jupiter makes one fat. Then why does

BPHS

> says the

> following for Hamsa Mahapurusha Yoga,

>

> 'The Hamsa native has voice, like a Hamsa, has a

> handsome appearance

> and well developed nose. He is a king with

phlegmatic

> temperament,

> honey-like tawny-coloured eyes, red-coloured nails,

> sharp

> intelligence, sturdy cheeks, round forehead and

> beautiful feet'

>

> And Saaravalli says,

> 7-8. If Jupiter be in Cancer at birth, the native

will

> be a scholar,

> be beautiful, be highly learned, charitable,

> good-natured, be very

> strong, be famous, will possess abundant grains and

> riches, be

> endowed with truth and penance, will have

long-living

> sons, be

> honoured by all, will be a king, will have a

> distinguished profession

> and will be attached to his friends.

>

> Both mention the person being Handsome.

>

>

> Warm Regards

> S. Prabhakaran

>

>

>

>

> , kapisthalam

> jagannathan

> <jagannathankr> wrote:

> > Dear Sir

> > May I add my view?.

> > It is the exaltation of Jupiter that causes

fatness.

> > With regards,

> > Jagannathan.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --- Ramesh Gangaramani

> > <ramesh.gangaramani@a...> wrote: > Satyam

> > Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

> > >

> > > Dear Raj and Fatima,

> > >

> > > I am sorry I made a mistake in data entry. It is

> > > true that Lagna is Scorpio

> > > @ 12 non and changes to Libra around 11.20am.

Also

> I

> > > think the logic given

> > > below applies to scars at birth. I am not sure

> > > subsequent cuts etc will be

> > > shown by these.

> > >

> > > Tall and fair characteristics would fit Libra

more

> > > that Scorpio.

> > >

> > > Jupiter is exalted in Cancer in either case. I

> need

> > > to understand what

> > > contributes to fatness!

> > >

> > > Best Regards

> > > Ramesh

> > >

> > >

> > > Ramesh Gangaramani

> > > [ramesh.gangaramani@a...]

> > > Tuesday, September 30, 2003 9:21 PM

> > >

> > > RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: help

> > >

> > >

> > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

> > >

> > > Dear Raj and Fatima,

> > >

> > > I tried making the chart with time zone of 5

hrs

> > > east of GMT (Rawalpindi,

> > > Pakistan) and I am getting Scorpio lagna from 10

> am

> > > to approx 11.40 am. It

> > > changes to Sagittarius thereafter. I also see

> > > afflictions mostly in Virgo

> > > sign which signifies area below the Navel upto

> > > Basti.

> > >

> > > Varga chakra book also shows how to see scars,

> > > cuts by placement of

> > > malefics in various houses. I am not 100% clear

> but

> > > I have understood that

> > > malefics placed in the same drekkana as the

lagna

> > > will show scars. For

> > > identification of body parts we need to refer to

> > > placement of malefics in D1

> > > chart. The body parts are as follows;

> > > 1st Drekkana

 

>

> > > 2nd Drekkana

> > > 3rd Drekkana

> > >

> > > House

> > >

> > > 1 Head

> > > Neck Pelvis

> > >

> > > 2 Right Eye

 

>

> > > Right

> > > shoulder Anus, penis

> > >

> > > 3 Right Ear

 

>

> > > Right

> > > arm Right testicles

> > >

> > > 4 Right Nose

 

>

> > > Right

> > > side Right thigh

> > >

> > > 5 Right Temple

 

>

> > > Right

> > > heart Right knee

> > >

> > > 6 Right Chin

 

>

> > > Right

> > > stomach Right calf

> > >

> > > 7 Face/ Mouth

 

>

> > > Navel

> > > Foot

> > >

> > > 8 Left Chin

 

>

> > > Left

> > > stomach Right calf

> > >

> > > 9 Left Temple

 

>

> > > Left

> > > Heart Right knee

> > >

> > > 10 Left Nose

 

>

> > > Left side

> > > Right thigh

> > >

> > > 11 Left Ear

 

>

> > > Left arm

> > > Right testicles

> > >

> > > 12 Left Eye

 

>

> > > Left

> > > shoulder Anus, Penis

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I have not gone beyond this since time span is

> too

> > > wide. I will await

> > > further comments from learned members that may

> > > benefit us. I also understand

> > > that excess fat is often due to affliction of

> > > Jupiter. Retro Jupiter is

> > > debilitated in navamsa with Scorpio or

Sagittarius

> > > lagna. Debilitated retro

> > > is generally not considered as debilitation. It

is

> > > often seen as exaltation.

> > > It would be nice to have a learned member

throwing

> > > more light on this.

> > >

> > > Kind Regards

> > >

> > > Ramesh

> > >

> > >

> > > Raj Bhardwaj

> > > [rajbhardwaj1949]

> > > Monday, September 29, 2003 11:48 AM

> > >

> > > [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: help

> > >

> > >

> > > Hello Fatima,

> > >

> > > I have seen your querry today and drawn your

> > > birth charts. Your

> > > correct time of birth appears to be 1200

noon.

> > > The description

> > > provided by you about your face/eyes and

> height

> > > as also the scars

> > > marks in your stomach area almost confirm

it.

> > > How ?

> > >

> > > 1. Your Asc is Sc. As it is in the 1st

> Dreshkan

> > > your Asc in the D-3

> > > is also Sc. Further Venus is aspecting your

> face

> > > area in Ar in both

> > > Lagna kundali as well as Navamsa

Kundali(D-9).

> > > Your height and color

> > > math the description provided by you in the

> > > charts. As far scars due

> > > to operations in the stomach area are

> concerned

> > > , in your Asc and D-9

> > > the 5th and 6th Rashi i.e. le and Vi, which

> > > denote the areas around

> > > stomach are affected by Sat, Sun, Rahu,

Mars,

> > > Ketu. Not only

> > > operations. If I am not wrong, most of

> > > injuries/operations must have

> > > taken place in the Mars/Rahu Mahadashas, as

> Mars

> > > is your lord of 6th

> > > house also. I hope it answers your querries

?

> > >

> > > , fatima

> > > hussain

> > > <fionatamer20002000> wrote:

> > > > hi,

> > > > i am a student, i just want if any one

could

> > > help me clarify a

> > > problem regarding my birth time, according

to

> my

> > > mother it is 10:20

> > > while my father distinctly remembers it to

be

> > > 12:00 noon, if i take

> > > 10:20 my ascendant becomes libra with venus

in

> > > it, but at 12:00 noon

> > > scorpio is the ascendant, i have very fair

> > > complexion, tall ,broad

> > > and i am rather fat so would not this

> > > description fit a scorpio

> > > ascendant?

> > > >

> > > > date of birth = 04/september/1978.

> > > > time of birth = 10:20 a.m. / 11:59 a.m.

> > > > place = kharian ( district =

> > > Rawalindi ) pakistan, 073E52,

> > > 32N49.

> > > >

> > > > i have several scars due to

> > > operations on my abdomin, i

> > > have a broad face with brown eyes and dark

> > > brown/black hair, i am the

> > > first child of my parents, please have a

look

> at

> > > my charts and help

> > > me figure out this delimma, although my

guess

> is

> > > that i would be born

> > > in a scorpio ascendant, most gratefully,

> fatima.

> > > >

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Dear Shri Chandrashekharji,

Thank you for your help. In this case however with Libra Lagna we have an Airy

sign with watery planet in lagna whereas with Scorpio lagna, a watery sign and

Jupiter (akash tatva) aspecting it. I am attaching the chart for reference.

Kind regards

Ramesh

 

Chandrashekhar Sharma

[boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk]Thursday, October 02, 2003 12:30 AMTo:

Subject: RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: help

Dear Sanjay Prabhakar, Jagannathan,

If I amy add my comments, the confusion probably is arising on account of

different understanding of swaroopa of Jupiter. His swaroopa is Large. Being

large does not necessarily mean being obese( in which way the term fat is

usally understood). For obesity the addition of a Watery Rasi and involvement

of watery planet would be required.

Chandrashekhar.

sanjayprabhakaran

[sanjayp (AT) (DOT) org]Wednesday, October 01, 2003 9:24 PMTo:

Subject: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: help|| Om

Gurave Namah ||Dear Jagannathan,If Extalted jupiter makes one fat. Then why

does BPHS says the following for Hamsa Mahapurusha Yoga,'The Hamsa native has

voice, like a Hamsa, has a handsome appearance and well developed nose. He is a

king with phlegmatic temperament, honey-like tawny-coloured eyes, red-coloured

nails, sharp intelligence, sturdy cheeks, round forehead and beautiful feet'And

Saaravalli says,7-8. If Jupiter be in Cancer at birth, the native will be a

scholar, be beautiful, be highly learned, charitable, good-natured, be very

strong, be famous, will possess abundant grains and riches, be endowed with

truth and penance, will have long-living sons, be honoured by all, will be a

king, will have a distinguished profession and will be attached to his friends.

Both mention the person being Handsome.Warm RegardsS. Prabhakaran--- In

, kapisthalam jagannathan <jagannathankr>

wrote:> Dear Sir> May I add my view?.> It is the exaltation of Jupiter that

causes fatness.> With regards,> Jagannathan.> > > > > --- Ramesh Gangaramani>

<ramesh.gangaramani@a...> wrote: > Satyam> Bruyat Priyam Bruyat> > > > Dear Raj

and Fatima,> > > > I am sorry I made a mistake in data entry. It is> > true that

Lagna is Scorpio> > @ 12 non and changes to Libra around 11.20am. Also I> >

think the logic given> > below applies to scars at birth. I am not sure> >

subsequent cuts etc will be> > shown by these.> > > > Tall and fair

characteristics would fit Libra more> > that Scorpio.> > > > Jupiter is exalted

in Cancer in either case. I need> > to understand what> > contributes to

fatness!> > > > Best Regards> > Ramesh> > > > > >

Ramesh Gangaramani> > [ramesh.gangaramani@a...]> > Tuesday,

September 30, 2003 9:21 PM> > > > Subject:

RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: help> > > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat> >

> > Dear Raj and Fatima,> > > > I tried making the chart with time zone of 5

hrs> > east of GMT (Rawalpindi,> > Pakistan) and I am getting Scorpio lagna from

10 am> > to approx 11.40 am. It> > changes to Sagittarius thereafter. I also

see> > afflictions mostly in Virgo> > sign which signifies area below the Navel

upto> > Basti.> > > > Varga chakra book also shows how to see scars,> > cuts

by placement of> > malefics in various houses. I am not 100% clear but> > I

have understood that> > malefics placed in the same drekkana as the lagna> >

will show scars. For> > identification of body parts we need to refer to> >

placement of malefics in D1> > chart. The body parts are as follows;> >

1st Drekkana > > 2nd Drekkana> > 3rd

Drekkana> > > > House> > > > 1 Head> > Neck

Pelvis> > > > 2

Right Eye > > Right> > shoulder

Anus, penis> > > > 3 Right Ear > >

Right> > arm Right testicles> > > > 4

Right Nose > > Right> > side

Right thigh> > > > 5 Right

Temple > > Right> > heart Right

knee> > > > 6 Right Chin > >

Right> > stomach Right calf> > > > 7

Face/ Mouth > > Navel> > Foot> > > > 8

Left Chin > > Left> > stomach

Right calf> > > > 9 Left

Temple > > Left> > Heart Right

knee> > > > 10 Left Nose > >

Left side> > Right thigh> > > > 11 Left Ear

> > Left arm> > Right testicles> > > > 12

Left Eye > > Left> > shoulder

Anus, Penis> > > > > > > > I have not gone beyond this since time span is

too> > wide. I will await> > further comments from learned members that may> >

benefit us. I also understand> > that excess fat is often due to affliction of>

> Jupiter. Retro Jupiter is> > debilitated in navamsa with Scorpio or

Sagittarius> > lagna. Debilitated retro> > is generally not considered as

debilitation. It is> > often seen as exaltation.> > It would be nice to have a

learned member throwing> > more light on this.> > > > Kind Regards> > > >

Ramesh> > > > > > Raj Bhardwaj> >

[rajbhardwaj1949]> > Monday, September 29, 2003 11:48 AM>

> > > [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul]

Re: help> > > > > > Hello Fatima,> > > > I have seen your querry today

and drawn your> > birth charts. Your> > correct time of birth appears to be

1200 noon.> > The description> > provided by you about your face/eyes and

height> > as also the scars> > marks in your stomach area almost confirm

it.> > How ?> > > > 1. Your Asc is Sc. As it is in the 1st Dreshkan> >

your Asc in the D-3> > is also Sc. Further Venus is aspecting your face> >

area in Ar in both> > Lagna kundali as well as Navamsa Kundali(D-9).> >

Your height and color> > math the description provided by you in the> >

charts. As far scars due> > to operations in the stomach area are

concerned> > , in your Asc and D-9> > the 5th and 6th Rashi i.e. le and Vi,

which> > denote the areas around> > stomach are affected by Sat, Sun, Rahu,

Mars,> > Ketu. Not only> > operations. If I am not wrong, most of> >

injuries/operations must have> > taken place in the Mars/Rahu Mahadashas,

as Mars> > is your lord of 6th> > house also. I hope it answers your

querries ?> > > > , fatima> > hussain> >

<fionatamer20002000> wrote:> > > hi,> > > i am a student, i

just want if any one could> > help me clarify a> > problem regarding my

birth time, according to my> > mother it is 10:20> > while my father

distinctly remembers it to be> > 12:00 noon, if i take> > 10:20 my

ascendant becomes libra with venus in> > it, but at 12:00 noon> > scorpio

is the ascendant, i have very fair> > complexion, tall ,broad> > and i am

rather fat so would not this> > description fit a scorpio> > ascendant?> >

>> > > date of birth = 04/september/1978.> > > time of birth = 10:20

a.m. / 11:59 a.m.> > > place = kharian ( district => > Rawalindi )

pakistan, 073E52,> > 32N49.> > >> > > i have several scars

due to> > operations on my abdomin, i> > have a broad face with brown eyes

and dark> > brown/black hair, i am the> > first child of my parents, please

have a look at> > my charts and help> > me figure out this delimma, although

my guess is> > that i would be born> > in a scorpio ascendant, most

gratefully, fatima.> > >> > > wrote:> >

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Dear Ramesh,

The problem is that Fatima is not sure about her birth time. However I think

that the Lagna could be Libra rather than Scorpio. This would mean Venus a

watery planet in Lagna and Jupiter in Jalachar rasi squaring lagna.Remember

that planets in square from each other become paraspar karakas. It would also

indicate mars's aspect on 7th causing cuts and scar in stomach region and other

body parts aspected by him. Navamsha would also change and cannot be commented

upon.

Hope this helps.

Chandrashekhar.

Ramesh Gangaramani

[ramesh.gangaramani (AT) ae (DOT) york.com]Sunday, October 05, 2003 10:22

AMSubject: RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: help

Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

 

Dear Shri Chandrashekharji,

Thank you for your help. In this case however with Libra Lagna we have an Airy

sign with watery planet in lagna whereas with Scorpio lagna, a watery sign and

Jupiter (akash tatva) aspecting it. I am attaching the chart for reference.

Kind regards

Ramesh

 

Chandrashekhar Sharma

[boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk]Thursday, October 02, 2003 12:30 AMTo:

Subject: RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: help

Dear Sanjay Prabhakar, Jagannathan,

If I amy add my comments, the confusion probably is arising on account of

different understanding of swaroopa of Jupiter. His swaroopa is Large. Being

large does not necessarily mean being obese( in which way the term fat is

usally understood). For obesity the addition of a Watery Rasi and involvement

of watery planet would be required.

Chandrashekhar.

sanjayprabhakaran

[sanjayp (AT) (DOT) org]Wednesday, October 01, 2003 9:24 PMTo:

Subject: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: help|| Om

Gurave Namah ||Dear Jagannathan,If Extalted jupiter makes one fat. Then why

does BPHS says the following for Hamsa Mahapurusha Yoga,'The Hamsa native has

voice, like a Hamsa, has a handsome appearance and well developed nose. He is a

king with phlegmatic temperament, honey-like tawny-coloured eyes, red-coloured

nails, sharp intelligence, sturdy cheeks, round forehead and beautiful feet'And

Saaravalli says,7-8. If Jupiter be in Cancer at birth, the native will be a

scholar, be beautiful, be highly learned, charitable, good-natured, be very

strong, be famous, will possess abundant grains and riches, be endowed with

truth and penance, will have long-living sons, be honoured by all, will be a

king, will have a distinguished profession and will be attached to his friends.

Both mention the person being Handsome.Warm RegardsS. Prabhakaran--- In

, kapisthalam jagannathan <jagannathankr>

wrote:> Dear Sir> May I add my view?.> It is the exaltation of Jupiter that

causes fatness.> With regards,> Jagannathan.> > > > > --- Ramesh Gangaramani>

<ramesh.gangaramani@a...> wrote: > Satyam> Bruyat Priyam Bruyat> > > > Dear Raj

and Fatima,> > > > I am sorry I made a mistake in data entry. It is> > true that

Lagna is Scorpio> > @ 12 non and changes to Libra around 11.20am. Also I> >

think the logic given> > below applies to scars at birth. I am not sure> >

subsequent cuts etc will be> > shown by these.> > > > Tall and fair

characteristics would fit Libra more> > that Scorpio.> > > > Jupiter is exalted

in Cancer in either case. I need> > to understand what> > contributes to

fatness!> > > > Best Regards> > Ramesh> > > > > >

Ramesh Gangaramani> > [ramesh.gangaramani@a...]> > Tuesday,

September 30, 2003 9:21 PM> > > > Subject:

RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: help> > > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat> >

> > Dear Raj and Fatima,> > > > I tried making the chart with time zone of 5

hrs> > east of GMT (Rawalpindi,> > Pakistan) and I am getting Scorpio lagna from

10 am> > to approx 11.40 am. It> > changes to Sagittarius thereafter. I also

see> > afflictions mostly in Virgo> > sign which signifies area below the Navel

upto> > Basti.> > > > Varga chakra book also shows how to see scars,> > cuts

by placement of> > malefics in various houses. I am not 100% clear but> > I

have understood that> > malefics placed in the same drekkana as the lagna> >

will show scars. For> > identification of body parts we need to refer to> >

placement of malefics in D1> > chart. The body parts are as follows;> >

1st Drekkana > > 2nd Drekkana> > 3rd

Drekkana> > > > House> > > > 1 Head> > Neck

Pelvis> > > > 2

Right Eye > > Right> > shoulder

Anus, penis> > > > 3 Right Ear > >

Right> > arm Right testicles> > > > 4

Right Nose > > Right> > side

Right thigh> > > > 5 Right

Temple > > Right> > heart Right

knee> > > > 6 Right Chin > >

Right> > stomach Right calf> > > > 7

Face/ Mouth > > Navel> > Foot> > > > 8

Left Chin > > Left> > stomach

Right calf> > > > 9 Left

Temple > > Left> > Heart Right

knee> > > > 10 Left Nose > >

Left side> > Right thigh> > > > 11 Left Ear

> > Left arm> > Right testicles> > > > 12

Left Eye > > Left> > shoulder

Anus, Penis> > > > > > > > I have not gone beyond this since time span is

too> > wide. I will await> > further comments from learned members that may> >

benefit us. I also understand> > that excess fat is often due to affliction of>

> Jupiter. Retro Jupiter is> > debilitated in navamsa with Scorpio or

Sagittarius> > lagna. Debilitated retro> > is generally not considered as

debilitation. It is> > often seen as exaltation.> > It would be nice to have a

learned member throwing> > more light on this.> > > > Kind Regards> > > >

Ramesh> > > > > > Raj Bhardwaj> >

[rajbhardwaj1949]> > Monday, September 29, 2003 11:48 AM>

> > > [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul]

Re: help> > > > > > Hello Fatima,> > > > I have seen your querry today

and drawn your> > birth charts. Your> > correct time of birth appears to be

1200 noon.> > The description> > provided by you about your face/eyes and

height> > as also the scars> > marks in your stomach area almost confirm

it.> > How ?> > > > 1. Your Asc is Sc. As it is in the 1st Dreshkan> >

your Asc in the D-3> > is also Sc. Further Venus is aspecting your face> >

area in Ar in both> > Lagna kundali as well as Navamsa Kundali(D-9).> >

Your height and color> > math the description provided by you in the> >

charts. As far scars due> > to operations in the stomach area are

concerned> > , in your Asc and D-9> > the 5th and 6th Rashi i.e. le and Vi,

which> > denote the areas around> > stomach are affected by Sat, Sun, Rahu,

Mars,> > Ketu. Not only> > operations. If I am not wrong, most of> >

injuries/operations must have> > taken place in the Mars/Rahu Mahadashas,

as Mars> > is your lord of 6th> > house also. I hope it answers your

querries ?> > > > , fatima> > hussain> >

<fionatamer20002000> wrote:> > > hi,> > > i am a student, i

just want if any one could> > help me clarify a> > problem regarding my

birth time, according to my> > mother it is 10:20> > while my father

distinctly remembers it to be> > 12:00 noon, if i take> > 10:20 my

ascendant becomes libra with venus in> > it, but at 12:00 noon> > scorpio

is the ascendant, i have very fair> > complexion, tall ,broad> > and i am

rather fat so would not this> > description fit a scorpio> > ascendant?> >

>> > > date of birth = 04/september/1978.> > > time of birth = 10:20

a.m. / 11:59 a.m.> > > place = kharian ( district => > Rawalindi )

pakistan, 073E52,> > 32N49.> > >> > > i have several scars

due to> > operations on my abdomin, i> > have a broad face with brown eyes

and dark> > brown/black hair, i am the> > first child of my parents, please

have a look at> > my charts and help> > me figure out this delimma, although

my guess is> > that i would be born> > in a scorpio ascendant, most

gratefully, fatima.> > >> > > wrote:> >

>> > > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]> > > Send a blank

mail> > > To :> > -> > >

To :> > > > > > > >

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