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For longevity, Is it the Shani/Moon in lagna/7th (is it the same as 7th/lagna ?

)in rashi chart particularly..or can we consider this in moon chart also ?

I am asking this, because I have Moon/Shani-Mangal in moon chart...in fixed signs !!

 

Looking forward to your reply.

 

Thanks,AC"Visti A. Larsen" <balabhadra (AT) justnitin (DOT) com> wrote:

Hare Rama Krishna

Dear Neeraj,

Being in between workshops, i decided to answer your interesting and sincere querry.

 

First fix the average longevity! The Marakas and etc, will only tell which of

the grahas will try to kill.. whether they will succeed or not depends solely

on whether the time of Rudra has come. By this we mean, when Shiva takes on the

form of Rudra and leaves, detaching your tanu from your mana+atma. This is the

time when the grahas can come and kill you.. otherwise not.

 

Knowing this, the first thing to ascertain is Balarishta, then Yogaaristha and

finally longevity. The last thing to look at is Marakas.

 

Try the method of 3 pairs. Among the 3 pairs, if Shani/Moon is in lagna/7th,

then they shall decide the longevity span.. there are many such exceptions.

 

So with this knowlege the longevity in your chart is fixed between 72-108 years.

Now the Niryana Shoola Dasa is only applicable if we find the average longevity

is ascertained as 96 years (as per my knowledge). To this Parasara states that

if the longevity compartment (in long life) is decided by 1 pair only, then 96

years is the period. Personally i stick to Shoola Dasa.

 

Now decide the compartment in which this will happen and predict accordingly.

Best wishes, Visti.

-

Neeraj Gupta

GJ

Sunday, September 21, 2003 3:45 AM

[sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Longevity Analysis

Longevity Analysis

 

I am writing this only for the sake of learning. It is not written for fun,

neither to do some prediction. As it is analysis for longevity, so I had used

my own chart, as predictions of longevity are not done in general. Kindly note

that I am just a student of vedic astrology, and the below is ONLY a sample

analysis from my side (with whatever little knowledge I possess). Kindly do not

take it in a negative way. This analysis might be of help to you, as I have used

different concepts that I studied and applied them. You may require my birth

data.

 

D.o.B – 14 April, 1978

Time: 15:33 PM

Place of Birth – New Delhi, India

 

Part – I – Marakas

 

Marakas:

 

Mercury (second Lord) and Saturn (seventh Lord) Rahu (Placement of Malefic

planet in second house) Mars may be considered maraka, as it aspects 7th House

with 8th Aspect, though it is Yog Karaka for lagna

 

For good longevity, 2nd and 7th lord and houses should be weak and 3rd and 8th

Lord and houses should be strong.

 

In this chart, 3 of the marakas are weak

 

Mercury is weak (as it is debilitated), but learnt that Deb+retro gives some

effect of exaltation, so will be considering it strong Saturn is weak (in first

house, 00:12:22.09) Mars (as it is debilitated)

 

Strong Maraka

 

Rahu (in second house at 11:31:27.44) – It is in old age, and results will be

some (if it would have been at more than 12:00:00, the stage will be yuva and

results would be full). Mercury will be considered strong, as it is both

debilitated + retro and also placed with malefic Ketu. Mercury is at

25:50:11.62

 

 

Part – II – Calculation of Rudra, Trishoola and Maheshwara

 

Rudra – Consider the Lord of 8th house from lagna or 7th house. (Note that 8th

house is not considered in normal way here, it is on the basis of Brahama,

Vishnu and shiva motion). The stronger lord becomes Rudra. As Saturn is in leo,

so this is exception, so we will be taking 8th house in normal way.

 

Here Lagna is Leo – 8th house from Leo is Pisces. Lord of Pisces is Jupiter.

Here 7th House is Aquarius – 8th house from Aquarius is Virgo. Lord of Virgo is Mercury.

 

Here mercury qualifies for Rudra (as it is debilitated and placed with ketu), if

considered other way round retro+deb = exaltation result, then also mercury will

qualify, I suppose, not sure.

 

Trishoola – It is seen by trines from rashi occupied by Rudra. Rudra (Mer) is in

Pisces. So Trishoola Rashis becomes trines from Pisces i.e. Pi, Cn and Sc (1st,

5th and 9th from Pi respectively).

 

 

Maheshwara – It is lord of 8th from AK though 3 exceptions are there. Since none

of exceptions are coming in this case, so they are not discussed here. In this

case Mercury is AK placed in Pisces. Now 8th house from Pisces is Libra. So

Lord of Libra, Venus becomes Maheshwara.

 

 

Part – III – Method of Three Pairs

 

Three pairs will be considered

 

Lagna Lord and Lord of 8th House (8th house is not be found in normal way), but

as Saturn exception is there, so 8th house will be found in normal way. Moon

and Saturn Lagna and Hora Lagna

 

Lagna Lord (sun) + Lord of 8th house, in this case Pi (Ju) = Ar (movable) + Ge

(dual) Moon + Saturn = Ge (dual) + Le (fixed) Lagna + Hora Lagna = Le (fixed)

+ Cp (movable)

 

Now Let us see the results of above 3

 

Movable + Dual = short life Dual + Fixed = Long Life Fixed + Movable = Middle Life

 

Now as all the three are different, we will give preference to the combination

of Lagna and Hora Lagna i.e. Middle life (36-72 years)

 

Part – IV – Eigth Lord Method

 

In this method, we see stronger from Lagna and the 7th house and take it as

reference point. Then we see 8th lord from this reference point. Placement of

8th lord from reference point indicates longevity (quadrant, panaphara and

apoklima stands for long, middle and short life respectively)

Here Lagna is Leo and 7th House is Aquarius. Here Lagna is strong as 7th house

is empty. So reference point is Leo. Now see 8th Lord from Leo i.e. Pisces

(Jupiter). Now Jupiter is placed in 11th House from reference point Leo. This

is in Panaphara, so Middle life is indicated (36-72 years)

 

 

Part – V – Niryaana Shoola Dasha

 

We will find stronger of the 8th and 2nd house. Here 8th house is stronger, as

it contains 2 planets. So dasha will start from Pi. It is dual even rashi, so

dasas will go backward i.e pi (9 yrs), Aq(8 yrs), Cp (7 yrs), Sg(9 yrs), Sc(8

yrs), Li(7 yrs), Vi(9 yrs), Le(8 yrs), Cn(7 yrs), Ge(9 yrs), Ta(8 yrs), Ar(7

yrs)

 

9+8+7+9+8+7+9+8+7 = 72 years

 

Now Trishoola rashis calculated were Pi, Cn and Sc

 

As we estimated the middle life i.e.36-72 years, Dasha of Scorpio i.e.

9+8+7+9=33 years the Scorpio dasha will start, so native may have some

mis-happening in this phase i.e. from 33-41 years, and If being lucky at this

point Dasha of Cancer will start at 72 year, and that may cause mis-happening

at that time.

Sorry, but don't want to go much deeper in this aspect.

Request to Gurus / Senior Members – Kindly correct me, If I had gone wrong at

any point. Your suggestions / comments will be helpful for clarifying the

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Dear AC,

 

 

According to what I inferred from Guru Vistee ji's

comments. Here is what I understood.

 

It means that Saturn or Moon, if placed in lagna or in

the seventh house. It is applicable in Rashi Chart.

 

I don't think (not sure) it is applicable in moon

chart. Rest Gurudeva Visti Jee will confirm it.

 

Sincere regards,

 

Neeraj Gupta

 

 

 

 

--- agatha christie <agathachristie22

wrote:

> Dear Visti,

>

> For longevity, Is it the Shani/Moon in lagna/7th (is

> it the same as 7th/lagna ? )

> in rashi chart particularly..or can we consider this

> in moon chart also ?

> I am asking this, because I have Moon/Shani-Mangal

> in moon chart...in fixed signs !!

>

> Looking forward to your reply.

>

> Thanks,

> AC

>

>

> "Visti A. Larsen" <balabhadra wrote:

> Hare Rama Krishna

> Dear Neeraj,

> Being in between workshops, i decided to answer your

> interesting and sincere querry.

>

> First fix the average longevity! The Marakas and

> etc, will only tell which of the grahas will try to

> kill.. whether they will succeed or not depends

> solely on whether the time of Rudra has come. By

> this we mean, when Shiva takes on the form of Rudra

> and leaves, detaching your tanu from your mana+atma.

> This is the time when the grahas can come and kill

> you.. otherwise not.

>

> Knowing this, the first thing to ascertain is

> Balarishta, then Yogaaristha and finally longevity.

> The last thing to look at is Marakas.

>

> Try the method of 3 pairs. Among the 3 pairs, if

> Shani/Moon is in lagna/7th, then they shall decide

> the longevity span.. there are many such exceptions.

>

> So with this knowlege the longevity in your chart is

> fixed between 72-108 years. Now the Niryana Shoola

> Dasa is only applicable if we find the average

> longevity is ascertained as 96 years (as per my

> knowledge). To this Parasara states that if the

> longevity compartment (in long life) is decided by 1

> pair only, then 96 years is the period. Personally i

> stick to Shoola Dasa.

>

> Now decide the compartment in which this will happen

> and predict accordingly.

> Best wishes, Visti.

> -

> Neeraj Gupta

> GJ

> Sunday, September 21, 2003 3:45 AM

> [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Longevity Analysis

>

>

>

> Longevity Analysis

>

>

>

> I am writing this only for the sake of learning. It

> is not written for fun, neither to do some

> prediction. As it is analysis for longevity, so I

> had used my own chart, as predictions of longevity

> are not done in general. Kindly note that I am just

> a student of vedic astrology, and the below is ONLY

> a sample analysis from my side (with whatever little

> knowledge I possess). Kindly do not take it in a

> negative way. This analysis might be of help to you,

> as I have used different concepts that I studied and

> applied them. You may require my birth data.

>

>

>

> D.o.B – 14 April, 1978

>

> Time: 15:33 PM

>

> Place of Birth – New Delhi, India

>

>

>

> Part – I – Marakas

>

>

>

> Marakas:

>

>

>

> Mercury (second Lord) and Saturn (seventh Lord)

> Rahu (Placement of Malefic planet in second

> house)

> Mars may be considered maraka, as it aspects 7th

> House with 8th Aspect, though it is Yog Karaka for

> lagna

>

>

>

> For good longevity, 2nd and 7th lord and houses

> should be weak and 3rd and 8th Lord and houses

> should be strong.

>

>

> In this chart, 3 of the marakas are weak

>

>

> Mercury is weak (as it is debilitated), but

> learnt that Deb+retro gives some effect of

> exaltation, so will be considering it strong

> Saturn is weak (in first house, 00:12:22.09)

> Mars (as it is debilitated)

>

>

> Strong Maraka

>

>

> Rahu (in second house at 11:31:27.44) – It is in

> old age, and results will be some (if it would have

> been at more than 12:00:00, the stage will be yuva

> and results would be full).

> Mercury will be considered strong, as it is both

> debilitated + retro and also placed with malefic

> Ketu. Mercury is at 25:50:11.62

>

>

>

>

> Part – II – Calculation of Rudra, Trishoola and

> Maheshwara

>

>

> Rudra – Consider the Lord of 8th house from lagna or

> 7th house. (Note that 8th house is not considered in

> normal way here, it is on the basis of Brahama,

> Vishnu and shiva motion). The stronger lord becomes

> Rudra. As Saturn is in leo, so this is exception, so

> we will be taking 8th house in normal way.

>

>

>

> Here Lagna is Leo – 8th house from Leo is Pisces.

> Lord of Pisces is Jupiter.

>

> Here 7th House is Aquarius – 8th house from Aquarius

> is Virgo. Lord of Virgo is Mercury.

>

>

>

> Here mercury qualifies for Rudra (as it is

> debilitated and placed with ketu), if considered

> other way round retro+deb = exaltation result, then

> also mercury will qualify, I suppose, not sure.

>

>

>

> Trishoola – It is seen by trines from rashi occupied

> by Rudra. Rudra (Mer) is in Pisces. So Trishoola

> Rashis becomes trines from Pisces i.e. Pi, Cn and Sc

> (1st, 5th and 9th from Pi respectively).

>

>

>

>

>

> Maheshwara – It is lord of 8th from AK though 3

> exceptions are there. Since none of exceptions are

> coming in this case, so they are not discussed here.

> In this case Mercury is AK placed in Pisces. Now 8th

> house from Pisces is Libra. So Lord of Libra, Venus

> becomes Maheshwara.

>

>

>

>

> Part – III – Method of Three Pairs

>

>

> Three pairs will be considered

>

>

>

> Lagna Lord and Lord of 8th House (8th house is

> not be found in normal way), but as Saturn exception

> is there, so 8th house will be found in normal way.

> Moon and Saturn

> Lagna and Hora Lagna

>

>

>

> Lagna Lord (sun) + Lord of 8th house, in this

> case Pi (Ju) = Ar (movable) + Ge (dual)

> Moon + Saturn = Ge (dual) + Le (fixed)

> Lagna + Hora Lagna = Le (fixed) + Cp (movable)

>

>

>

> Now Let us see the results of above 3

>

>

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~ Om Namah Shivaya ~Dear AC,According to what I inferred from Guru Vistee

ji'scomments. Here is what I understood.It means that Saturn or Moon, if placed

in lagna or inthe seventh house. It is applicable in Rashi Chart.I don't think

(not sure) it is applicable in moonchart. Rest Gurudeva Visti Jee will confirm

it. Sincere regards,Neeraj Gupta--- agatha christie wrote:> Dear Visti,> > For

longevity, Is it the Shani/Moon in lagna/7th (is> it the same as 7th/lagna ? )>

in rashi chart particularly..or can we consider this> in moon chart also ? > I

am asking this, because I have Moon/Shani-Mangal> in moon chart...in fixed

signs !!> > Looking forward to your reply.> > Thanks,> AC>

> > "Visti A. Larsen" wrote:> Hare Rama Krishna> Dear Neeraj,> Being in between

workshops, i decided to answer your> interesting and sincere querry.> > First

fix the average longevity! The Marakas and> etc, will only tell which of the

grahas will try to> kill.. whether they will succeed or not depends> solely on

whether the time of Rudra has come. By> this we mean, when Shiva takes on the

form of Rudra> and leaves, detaching your tanu from your mana+atma.> This is

the time when the grahas can come and kill> you.. otherwise not.> > Knowing

this, the first thing to ascertain is> Balarishta, then Yogaaristha and finally

longevity.> The last thing to look at is Marakas.> > Try the method of 3 pairs.

Among the 3 pairs, if> Shani/Moon is in lagna/7th, then they shall decide> the

longevity span.. there are

many such exceptions.> > So with this knowlege the longevity in your chart is>

fixed between 72-108 years. Now the Niryana Shoola> Dasa is only applicable if

we find the average> longevity is ascertained as 96 years (as per my>

knowledge). To this Parasara states that if the> longevity compartment (in long

life) is decided by 1> pair only, then 96 years is the period. Personally i>

stick to Shoola Dasa.> > Now decide the compartment in which this will happen>

and predict accordingly.> Best wishes, Visti.> - >

Neeraj Gupta > GJ > Sunday, September 21, 2003 3:45 AM>

[sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Longevity Analysis> > > > Longevity Analysis> >

> > I am writing this only for the sake of learning. It> is not written for fun,

neither to do some>

prediction. As it is analysis for longevity, so I> had used my own chart, as

predictions of longevity> are not done in general. Kindly note that I am just>

a student of vedic astrology, and the below is ONLY> a sample analysis from my

side (with whatever little> knowledge I possess). Kindly do not take it in a>

negative way. This analysis might be of help to you,> as I have used different

concepts that I studied and> applied them. You may require my birth data.> > >

> D.o.B – 14 April, 1978> > Time: 15:33 PM> > Place of Birth – New Delhi,

India> > > > Part – I – Marakas > > > > Marakas:> > > > Mercury (second Lord)

and Saturn (seventh Lord) > Rahu (Placement of Malefic planet in second> house)

> Mars may be considered maraka, as it aspects 7th> House with 8th

Aspect, though it is Yog Karaka for> lagna> > > > For good longevity, 2nd and

7th lord and houses> should be weak and 3rd and 8th Lord and houses> should be

strong.> > > In this chart, 3 of the marakas are weak> > > Mercury is weak (as

it is debilitated), but> learnt that Deb+retro gives some effect of>

exaltation, so will be considering it strong > Saturn is weak (in first house,

00:12:22.09) > Mars (as it is debilitated)> > > Strong Maraka> > > Rahu (in

second house at 11:31:27.44) – It is in> old age, and results will be some (if

it would have> been at more than 12:00:00, the stage will be yuva> and results

would be full). > Mercury will be considered strong, as it is both> debilitated

+ retro and also placed with malefic> Ketu. Mercury is at 25:50:11.62> > >

> > Part – II – Calculation of Rudra, Trishoola and> Maheshwara> > > Rudra –

Consider the Lord of 8th house from lagna or> 7th house. (Note that 8th house

is not considered in> normal way here, it is on the basis of Brahama,> Vishnu

and shiva motion). The stronger lord becomes> Rudra. As Saturn is in leo, so

this is exception, so> we will be taking 8th house in normal way.> > > > Here

Lagna is Leo – 8th house from Leo is Pisces.> Lord of Pisces is Jupiter.> >

Here 7th House is Aquarius – 8th house from Aquarius> is Virgo. Lord of Virgo

is Mercury.> > > > Here mercury qualifies for Rudra (as it is> debilitated and

placed with ketu), if considered> other way round retro+deb = exaltation

result, then> also mercury will qualify, I suppose, not sure.> > > > Trishoola

– It is seen

by trines from rashi occupied> by Rudra. Rudra (Mer) is in Pisces. So Trishoola>

Rashis becomes trines from Pisces i.e. Pi, Cn and Sc> (1st, 5th and 9th from Pi

respectively).> > > > > > Maheshwara – It is lord of 8th from AK though 3>

exceptions are there. Since none of exceptions are> coming in this case, so

they are not discussed here.> In this case Mercury is AK placed in Pisces. Now

8th> house from Pisces is Libra. So Lord of Libra, Venus> becomes Maheshwara.>

> > > > Part – III – Method of Three Pairs> > > Three pairs will be considered>

> > > Lagna Lord and Lord of 8th House (8th house is> not be found in normal

way), but as Saturn exception> is there, so 8th house will be found in normal

way. > Moon and Saturn > Lagna and Hora Lagna> > > >

Lagna Lord (sun) + Lord of 8th house, in this> case Pi (Ju) = Ar (movable) + Ge

(dual) > Moon + Saturn = Ge (dual) + Le (fixed) > Lagna + Hora Lagna = Le

(fixed) + Cp (movable)> > > > Now Let us see the results of above 3> > ===

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Hare Rama Krishna

Dear Agatha,

Offcourse its only applicable to Udaya Lagna and not Chandra Lagna.

Best wishes, Visti,

-

"Neeraj Gupta" <gupta_neeraj_2000

<>

Thursday, September 25, 2003 6:22 AM

Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] Longevity Analysis

 

 

> ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

>

> Dear AC,

>

>

> According to what I inferred from Guru Vistee ji's

> comments. Here is what I understood.

>

> It means that Saturn or Moon, if placed in lagna or in

> the seventh house. It is applicable in Rashi Chart.

>

> I don't think (not sure) it is applicable in moon

> chart. Rest Gurudeva Visti Jee will confirm it.

>

> Sincere regards,

>

> Neeraj Gupta

>

>

>

>

> --- agatha christie <agathachristie22

> wrote:

> > Dear Visti,

> >

> > For longevity, Is it the Shani/Moon in lagna/7th (is

> > it the same as 7th/lagna ? )

> > in rashi chart particularly..or can we consider this

> > in moon chart also ?

> > I am asking this, because I have Moon/Shani-Mangal

> > in moon chart...in fixed signs !!

> >

> > Looking forward to your reply.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > AC

> >

> >

> > "Visti A. Larsen" <balabhadra wrote:

> > Hare Rama Krishna

> > Dear Neeraj,

> > Being in between workshops, i decided to answer your

> > interesting and sincere querry.

> >

> > First fix the average longevity! The Marakas and

> > etc, will only tell which of the grahas will try to

> > kill.. whether they will succeed or not depends

> > solely on whether the time of Rudra has come. By

> > this we mean, when Shiva takes on the form of Rudra

> > and leaves, detaching your tanu from your mana+atma.

> > This is the time when the grahas can come and kill

> > you.. otherwise not.

> >

> > Knowing this, the first thing to ascertain is

> > Balarishta, then Yogaaristha and finally longevity.

> > The last thing to look at is Marakas.

> >

> > Try the method of 3 pairs. Among the 3 pairs, if

> > Shani/Moon is in lagna/7th, then they shall decide

> > the longevity span.. there are many such exceptions.

> >

> > So with this knowlege the longevity in your chart is

> > fixed between 72-108 years. Now the Niryana Shoola

> > Dasa is only applicable if we find the average

> > longevity is ascertained as 96 years (as per my

> > knowledge). To this Parasara states that if the

> > longevity compartment (in long life) is decided by 1

> > pair only, then 96 years is the period. Personally i

> > stick to Shoola Dasa.

> >

> > Now decide the compartment in which this will happen

> > and predict accordingly.

> > Best wishes, Visti.

> > -

> > Neeraj Gupta

> > GJ

> > Sunday, September 21, 2003 3:45 AM

> > [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Longevity Analysis

> >

> >

> >

> > Longevity Analysis

> >

> >

> >

> > I am writing this only for the sake of learning. It

> > is not written for fun, neither to do some

> > prediction. As it is analysis for longevity, so I

> > had used my own chart, as predictions of longevity

> > are not done in general. Kindly note that I am just

> > a student of vedic astrology, and the below is ONLY

> > a sample analysis from my side (with whatever little

> > knowledge I possess). Kindly do not take it in a

> > negative way. This analysis might be of help to you,

> > as I have used different concepts that I studied and

> > applied them. You may require my birth data.

> >

> >

> >

> > D.o.B - 14 April, 1978

> >

> > Time: 15:33 PM

> >

> > Place of Birth - New Delhi, India

> >

> >

> >

> > Part - I - Marakas

> >

> >

> >

> > Marakas:

> >

> >

> >

> > Mercury (second Lord) and Saturn (seventh Lord)

> > Rahu (Placement of Malefic planet in second

> > house)

> > Mars may be considered maraka, as it aspects 7th

> > House with 8th Aspect, though it is Yog Karaka for

> > lagna

> >

> >

> >

> > For good longevity, 2nd and 7th lord and houses

> > should be weak and 3rd and 8th Lord and houses

> > should be strong.

> >

> >

> > In this chart, 3 of the marakas are weak

> >

> >

> > Mercury is weak (as it is debilitated), but

> > learnt that Deb+retro gives some effect of

> > exaltation, so will be considering it strong

> > Saturn is weak (in first house, 00:12:22.09)

> > Mars (as it is debilitated)

> >

> >

> > Strong Maraka

> >

> >

> > Rahu (in second house at 11:31:27.44) - It is in

> > old age, and results will be some (if it would have

> > been at more than 12:00:00, the stage will be yuva

> > and results would be full).

> > Mercury will be considered strong, as it is both

> > debilitated + retro and also placed with malefic

> > Ketu. Mercury is at 25:50:11.62

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Part - II - Calculation of Rudra, Trishoola and

> > Maheshwara

> >

> >

> > Rudra - Consider the Lord of 8th house from lagna or

> > 7th house. (Note that 8th house is not considered in

> > normal way here, it is on the basis of Brahama,

> > Vishnu and shiva motion). The stronger lord becomes

> > Rudra. As Saturn is in leo, so this is exception, so

> > we will be taking 8th house in normal way.

> >

> >

> >

> > Here Lagna is Leo - 8th house from Leo is Pisces.

> > Lord of Pisces is Jupiter.

> >

> > Here 7th House is Aquarius - 8th house from Aquarius

> > is Virgo. Lord of Virgo is Mercury.

> >

> >

> >

> > Here mercury qualifies for Rudra (as it is

> > debilitated and placed with ketu), if considered

> > other way round retro+deb = exaltation result, then

> > also mercury will qualify, I suppose, not sure.

> >

> >

> >

> > Trishoola - It is seen by trines from rashi occupied

> > by Rudra. Rudra (Mer) is in Pisces. So Trishoola

> > Rashis becomes trines from Pisces i.e. Pi, Cn and Sc

> > (1st, 5th and 9th from Pi respectively).

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Maheshwara - It is lord of 8th from AK though 3

> > exceptions are there. Since none of exceptions are

> > coming in this case, so they are not discussed here.

> > In this case Mercury is AK placed in Pisces. Now 8th

> > house from Pisces is Libra. So Lord of Libra, Venus

> > becomes Maheshwara.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Part - III - Method of Three Pairs

> >

> >

> > Three pairs will be considered

> >

> >

> >

> > Lagna Lord and Lord of 8th House (8th house is

> > not be found in normal way), but as Saturn exception

> > is there, so 8th house will be found in normal way.

> > Moon and Saturn

> > Lagna and Hora Lagna

> >

> >

> >

> > Lagna Lord (sun) + Lord of 8th house, in this

> > case Pi (Ju) = Ar (movable) + Ge (dual)

> > Moon + Saturn = Ge (dual) + Le (fixed)

> > Lagna + Hora Lagna = Le (fixed) + Cp (movable)

> >

> >

> >

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Hare Rama KrishnaDear Agatha,Offcourse its only applicable to Udaya Lagna and

not Chandra Lagna.Best wishes, Visti,- "Neeraj

Gupta" <gupta_neeraj_2000 ><>Sent:

Thursday, September 25, 2003 6:22 AMRe: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re:

Achyuta Gurukul] Longevity Analysis> ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~>> Dear AC,>>>

According to what I inferred from Guru Vistee ji's> comments. Here is what I

understood.>> It means that Saturn or Moon, if placed in lagna or in> the

seventh house. It is applicable in Rashi Chart.>> I don't think (not sure) it

is applicable in moon> chart. Rest Gurudeva Visti Jee will confirm it.>>

Sincere regards,>> Neeraj

Gupta>>>>> --- agatha christie <agathachristie22 >> wrote:> > Dear

Visti,> >> > For longevity, Is it the Shani/Moon in lagna/7th (is> > it the

same as 7th/lagna ? )> > in rashi chart particularly..or can we consider this>

> in moon chart also ?> > I am asking this, because I have Moon/Shani-Mangal> >

in moon chart...in fixed signs !!> >> > Looking forward to your reply.> >> >

Thanks,> > AC> >> >> > "Visti A. Larsen" <balabhadra (AT) justnitin (DOT) com> wrote:> >

Hare Rama Krishna> > Dear Neeraj,> > Being in between workshops, i decided to

answer your> > interesting and sincere querry.> >> > First fix the average

longevity! The Marakas and> > etc, will only tell which of the grahas will try

to> >

kill.. whether they will succeed or not depends> > solely on whether the time of

Rudra has come. By> > this we mean, when Shiva takes on the form of Rudra> > and

leaves, detaching your tanu from your mana+atma.> > This is the time when the

grahas can come and kill> > you.. otherwise not.> >> > Knowing this, the first

thing to ascertain is> > Balarishta, then Yogaaristha and finally longevity.> >

The last thing to look at is Marakas.> >> > Try the method of 3 pairs. Among the

3 pairs, if> > Shani/Moon is in lagna/7th, then they shall decide> > the

longevity span.. there are many such exceptions.> >> > So with this knowlege

the longevity in your chart is> > fixed between 72-108 years. Now the Niryana

Shoola> > Dasa is only applicable if we find the average> > longevity is

ascertained as 96 years (as per

my> > knowledge). To this Parasara states that if the> > longevity compartment

(in long life) is decided by 1> > pair only, then 96 years is the period.

Personally i> > stick to Shoola Dasa.> >> > Now decide the compartment in which

this will happen> > and predict accordingly.> > Best wishes, Visti.> > -----

Original Message ----- > > Neeraj Gupta> > GJ> > Sunday,

September 21, 2003 3:45 AM> > [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Longevity

Analysis> >> >> >> > Longevity Analysis> >> >> >> > I am writing this only for

the sake of learning. It> > is not written for fun, neither to do some> >

prediction. As it is analysis for longevity, so I> > had used my own chart, as

predictions of longevity> > are not done in general. Kindly

note that I am just> > a student of vedic astrology, and the below is ONLY> > a

sample analysis from my side (with whatever little> > knowledge I possess).

Kindly do not take it in a> > negative way. This analysis might be of help to

you,> > as I have used different concepts that I studied and> > applied them.

You may require my birth data.> >> >> >> > D.o.B - 14 April, 1978> >> > Time:

15:33 PM> >> > Place of Birth - New Delhi, India> >> >> >> > Part - I -

Marakas> >> >> >> > Marakas:> >> >> >> > Mercury (second Lord) and Saturn

(seventh Lord)> > Rahu (Placement of Malefic planet in second> > house)> >

Mars may be considered maraka, as it

aspects 7th> > House with 8th Aspect, though it is Yog Karaka for> > lagna> >>

>> >> > For good longevity, 2nd and 7th lord and houses> > should be weak and

3rd and 8th Lord and houses> > should be strong.> >> >> > In this chart, 3 of

the marakas are weak> >> >> > Mercury is weak (as it is debilitated), but> >

learnt that Deb+retro gives some effect of> > exaltation, so will be considering

it strong> > Saturn is weak (in first house, 00:12:22.09)> > Mars (as it

is debilitated)> >> >> > Strong Maraka> >> >> > Rahu (in second house at

11:31:27.44) - It is in> > old age, and results will be some (if it would have>

> been at more than 12:00:00, the stage will

be yuva> > and results would be full).> > Mercury will be considered strong,

as it is both> > debilitated + retro and also placed with malefic> > Ketu.

Mercury is at 25:50:11.62> >> >> >> >> > Part - II - Calculation of Rudra,

Trishoola and> > Maheshwara> >> >> > Rudra - Consider the Lord of 8th house

from lagna or> > 7th house. (Note that 8th house is not considered in> > normal

way here, it is on the basis of Brahama,> > Vishnu and shiva motion). The

stronger lord becomes> > Rudra. As Saturn is in leo, so this is exception, so>

> we will be taking 8th house in normal way.> >> >> >> > Here Lagna is Leo -

8th house from Leo is Pisces.> > Lord of Pisces is Jupiter.> >> > Here 7th

House is Aquarius - 8th house from

Aquarius> > is Virgo. Lord of Virgo is Mercury.> >> >> >> > Here mercury

qualifies for Rudra (as it is> > debilitated and placed with ketu), if

considered> > other way round retro+deb = exaltation result, then> > also

mercury will qualify, I suppose, not sure.> >> >> >> > Trishoola - It is seen

by trines from rashi occupied> > by Rudra. Rudra (Mer) is in Pisces. So

Trishoola> > Rashis becomes trines from Pisces i.e. Pi, Cn and Sc> > (1st, 5th

and 9th from Pi respectively).> >> >> >> >> >> > Maheshwara - It is lord of 8th

from AK though 3> > exceptions are there. Since none of exceptions are> > coming

in this case, so they are not discussed here.> > In this case Mercury is AK

placed in Pisces. Now 8th> > house from Pisces is Libra. So

Lord of Libra, Venus> > becomes Maheshwara.> >> >> >> >> > Part - III - Method

of Three Pairs> >> >> > Three pairs will be considered> >> >> >> > Lagna

Lord and Lord of 8th House (8th house is> > not be found in normal way), but as

Saturn exception> > is there, so 8th house will be found in normal way.> >

Moon and Saturn> > Lagna and Hora Lagna> >> >> >> > Lagna Lord (sun) +

Lord of 8th house, in this> > case Pi (Ju) = Ar (movable) + Ge (dual)> >

Moon + Saturn = Ge (dual) + Le (fixed)> > Lagna + Hora Lagna = Le (fixed) +

Cp (movable)> >> >> >> > Now Let us see the results of above 3>

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Respected Gurudeva Visti Jee,

 

I read in shri PVR ji book about Moon exception,

saturn was not mentioned there, so I havent' learnt

that concept. Thanks for adding the saturn exception

to my knowledge. I wasn't aware of that.

 

Kindly explain about balaarishta and Yogarishtaa (if

you get sometime or if it is mentioned in book, please

let me know the source, so that I can study it and

understand it), so that I can Re-do my analysis and

post it again.

 

Thanks for your expert comments. They had always

helped us.

 

Sincere regards,

 

Neeraj Gupta

 

 

--- "Visti A. Larsen" <balabhadra

wrote:

> Hare Rama Krishna

> Dear Neeraj,

> Being in between workshops, i decided to answer your

> interesting and sincere querry.

>

> First fix the average longevity! The Marakas and

> etc, will only tell which of the grahas will try to

> kill.. whether they will succeed or not depends

> solely on whether the time of Rudra has come. By

> this we mean, when Shiva takes on the form of Rudra

> and leaves, detaching your tanu from your mana+atma.

> This is the time when the grahas can come and kill

> you.. otherwise not.

>

> Knowing this, the first thing to ascertain is

> Balarishta, then Yogaaristha and finally longevity.

> The last thing to look at is Marakas.

>

> Try the method of 3 pairs. Among the 3 pairs, if

> Shani/Moon is in lagna/7th, then they shall decide

> the longevity span.. there are many such exceptions.

>

> So with this knowlege the longevity in your chart is

> fixed between 72-108 years. Now the Niryana Shoola

> Dasa is only applicable if we find the average

> longevity is ascertained as 96 years (as per my

> knowledge). To this Parasara states that if the

> longevity compartment (in long life) is decided by 1

> pair only, then 96 years is the period. Personally i

> stick to Shoola Dasa.

>

> Now decide the compartment in which this will happen

> and predict accordingly.

> Best wishes, Visti.

> -

> Neeraj Gupta

> GJ

> Sunday, September 21, 2003 3:45 AM

> [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Longevity Analysis

>

>

>

> Longevity Analysis

>

>

>

> I am writing this only for the sake of learning.

> It is not written for fun, neither to do some

> prediction. As it is analysis for longevity, so I

> had used my own chart, as predictions of longevity

> are not done in general. Kindly note that I am just

> a student of vedic astrology, and the below is ONLY

> a sample analysis from my side (with whatever little

> knowledge I possess). Kindly do not take it in a

> negative way. This analysis might be of help to you,

> as I have used different concepts that I studied and

> applied them. You may require my birth data.

>

>

>

> D.o.B - 14 April, 1978

>

> Time: 15:33 PM

>

> Place of Birth - New Delhi, India

>

>

>

> Part - I - Marakas

>

>

>

> Marakas:

>

>

>

> 1.. Mercury (second Lord) and Saturn (seventh

> Lord)

> 2.. Rahu (Placement of Malefic planet in second

> house)

> 3.. Mars may be considered maraka, as it aspects

> 7th House with 8th Aspect, though it is Yog Karaka

> for lagna

>

>

> For good longevity, 2nd and 7th lord and houses

> should be weak and 3rd and 8th Lord and houses

> should be strong.

>

>

>

> In this chart, 3 of the marakas are weak

>

>

> 1.. Mercury is weak (as it is debilitated), but

> learnt that Deb+retro gives some effect of

> exaltation, so will be considering it strong

> 2.. Saturn is weak (in first house, 00:12:22.09)

>

> 3.. Mars (as it is debilitated)

>

>

> Strong Maraka

>

>

> 1.. Rahu (in second house at 11:31:27.44) - It

> is in old age, and results will be some (if it would

> have been at more than 12:00:00, the stage will be

> yuva and results would be full).

> 2.. Mercury will be considered strong, as it is

> both debilitated + retro and also placed with

> malefic Ketu. Mercury is at 25:50:11.62

>

>

>

>

> Part - II - Calculation of Rudra, Trishoola and

> Maheshwara

>

>

> Rudra - Consider the Lord of 8th house from lagna

> or 7th house. (Note that 8th house is not considered

> in normal way here, it is on the basis of Brahama,

> Vishnu and shiva motion). The stronger lord becomes

> Rudra. As Saturn is in leo, so this is exception, so

> we will be taking 8th house in normal way.

>

>

>

> Here Lagna is Leo - 8th house from Leo is Pisces.

> Lord of Pisces is Jupiter.

>

> Here 7th House is Aquarius - 8th house from

> Aquarius is Virgo. Lord of Virgo is Mercury.

>

>

>

> Here mercury qualifies for Rudra (as it is

> debilitated and placed with ketu), if considered

> other way round retro+deb = exaltation result, then

> also mercury will qualify, I suppose, not sure.

>

>

>

> Trishoola - It is seen by trines from rashi

> occupied by Rudra. Rudra (Mer) is in Pisces. So

> Trishoola Rashis becomes trines from Pisces i.e. Pi,

> Cn and Sc (1st, 5th and 9th from Pi respectively).

>

>

>

>

>

> Maheshwara - It is lord of 8th from AK though 3

> exceptions are there. Since none of exceptions are

> coming in this case, so they are not discussed here.

> In this case Mercury is AK placed in Pisces. Now 8th

> house from Pisces is Libra. So Lord of Libra, Venus

> becomes Maheshwara.

>

>

>

>

>

> Part - III - Method of Three Pairs

>

>

> Three pairs will be considered

>

>

>

> 1.. Lagna Lord and Lord of 8th House (8th house

> is not be found in normal way), but as Saturn

> exception is there, so 8th house will be found in

> normal way.

> 2.. Moon and Saturn

> 3.. Lagna and Hora Lagna

>

>

> 1.. Lagna Lord (sun) + Lord of 8th house, in

> this case Pi (Ju) = Ar (movable) + Ge (dual)

> 2.. Moon + Saturn = Ge (dual) + Le (fixed)

> 3.. Lagna + Hora Lagna = Le (fixed) + Cp

> (movable)

>

>

> Now Let us see the results of above 3

>

>

>

> 1.. Movable + Dual = short life

> 2.. Dual + Fixed = Long Life

> 3.. Fixed + Movable = Middle Life

>

>

> Now as all the three are different, we will give

> preference to the combination of Lagna and Hora

> Lagna i.e. Middle life (36-72 years)

>

>

>

>

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