Guest guest Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Jyotish Students, Since the list is not discussing some basics I thought of starting a discussion on Lagna lord in various houses. COVA If the Lord is in the ascendant, the native is strong, fickle minded, brave, intelligent, with two or more wives, mahapurush (great person) and blessed by the Sun God. BPHS agneshe lagnage dehasukhabhAg.h bhujavikramI | manasvI chaJNchalashchaiva dvibhAryo parago.api va || 24.1|| 1. Effects of Lagn's Lord in Various Bhavas (up to Sloka 12). Should Lagn's Lord be in Lagn itself, the native will be endowed with physical happiness and prowess. He will be intelligent, fickle- minded, will have two wives and will unite with other females. Question 1. Why does Lagna lord in lagna gives 2 or more wives?. COVA If the Lord is in the second house, the native is scholarly, wealthy, happy, religious, honorable and passionate. Progenic bliss will be hard to obtain. Question 2. Why is progenic bliss will be hard to be obtained for lagna lord in 2nd?. BPHS lagneshe sutage jantoH sutasaukhyaM cha madhyamam.h | prathamApatyanAshaH syAnmAnI krodhI nR^ipapriyaH || 5|| 5. If Lagn's Lord is in Putr Bhava, the native will have mediocre progenic happiness, will lose his first child, be honourable, given to anger and be dear to king. Question 3: For lagna lord in 5th, Why is progenic happiness mediocre and lose first child?. Question 4: For lagna lord in 5th, Why will the person be given to anger?. COVA If the Lord is in the sixth house, debts and ill health are indicated. He will be troubled by enemies. He will be intelligent and courageous and if benefics aspect or during the period of lagnesh will destroy enemies, acquire wealth and a royal status. Early loss of spouse is indicated. Question 5: Why is early loss of spouce indicated of 1st lord in 6th? COVA If the Lord is in the seventh house, wife is short lived; more than one marriage and misfortunes are indicated. Unless the lagnesh is strong the native could become an ascetic or nomad. If strong, great wealth and prosperity are indicated. Question 6: For lagna lord in 7th. Why is there a possibilty of short lived wife?. Questoin 7: For lagna lord in 7th, What causes possible asceticism?. BPHS lagneshe.ashhTamage jAtaH siddhavidyAvishAradaH | rogI chauro mahAkrodhI dyUtI cha paradAragaH || 8|| 8. If Lagn's Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be an accomplished scholar, be sickly, thievish, be given to much anger, be a gambler and will join others' wives Question 8: Why does 8th house indicates others wife?. COVA: Question 9: Lagna lord in 9th,10th and 11th causes blessings of Vishnu, Ganesha and Shiva. Why? BPHS: lagneshe vyayabhAvasthe dehasaukhyavivarjitaH | vyarthavyayI mahAkrodhI shubhadR^ig.hyogavarjite || 12|| 12. If Lagn's Lord is in Vyaya Bhava and is devoid of benefic Drishti and/or Yuti, the native will be bereft of physical happiness, will spend unfruitfully and be given to much anger. Question 10: What factor in 12th house cases a person to be short tempered, when lagna lord goes there?. If you have time please take part in this so we can spend some time Improving our basics. Warm regards S. Prabhakaran Om tat sat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 Dear SanjayP, Great questions! Thanks for asking!!! I've wondered about them myself. I would add one more: *** If LL is in fith H. One will serve others. My understanding is that one will bring gain to others- from seventh house/and sixth H is for that matter considered as a native's gain. KP states that 6th stronger than 5th fares better for work for oneself, as opposed to work for others. We've seen that in COVA too, selfemployment vs. service work. This, as you see goes a bit broader. I wait for all responses eagerly! Best wishes, Anna -- In , "sanjayprabhakaran" <sanjayp@s...> wrote: > || Om Gurave Namah || > > Dear Jyotish Students, > Since the list is not discussing some basics I thought of starting a > discussion on Lagna lord in various houses. > > COVA > If the Lord is in the ascendant, the native is strong, fickle minded, > brave, intelligent, with two or more wives, mahapurush (great person) > and blessed by the Sun God. > > BPHS > agneshe lagnage dehasukhabhAg.h bhujavikramI | > manasvI chaJNchalashchaiva dvibhAryo parago.api va || 24.1|| > 1. Effects of Lagn's Lord in Various Bhavas (up to Sloka 12). Should > Lagn's Lord be in Lagn itself, the native will be endowed with > physical happiness and prowess. He will be intelligent, fickle- > minded, will have two wives and will unite with other females. > > Question 1. Why does Lagna lord in lagna gives 2 or more wives?. > > > COVA > If the Lord is in the second house, the native is scholarly, wealthy, > happy, religious, honorable and passionate. Progenic bliss will be > hard to obtain. > > Question 2. Why is progenic bliss will be hard to be obtained for > lagna lord in 2nd?. > > BPHS > lagneshe sutage jantoH sutasaukhyaM cha madhyamam.h | > prathamApatyanAshaH syAnmAnI krodhI nR^ipapriyaH || 5|| > 5. If Lagn's Lord is in Putr Bhava, the native will have mediocre > progenic happiness, will lose his first child, be honourable, given > to anger and be dear to king. > > Question 3: For lagna lord in 5th, Why is progenic happiness mediocre > and lose first child?. > Question 4: For lagna lord in 5th, Why will the person be given to > anger?. > > > > COVA > If the Lord is in the sixth house, debts and ill health are > indicated. He will be troubled by enemies. He will be intelligent and > courageous and if benefics aspect or during the period of lagnesh > will destroy enemies, acquire wealth and a royal status. Early loss > of spouse is indicated. > > Question 5: Why is early loss of spouce indicated of 1st lord in 6th? > > > COVA > > If the Lord is in the seventh house, wife is short lived; more than > one marriage and misfortunes are indicated. Unless the lagnesh is > strong the native could become an ascetic or nomad. If strong, great > wealth and prosperity are indicated. > > Question 6: For lagna lord in 7th. Why is there a possibilty of short > lived wife?. > > Questoin 7: For lagna lord in 7th, What causes possible asceticism?. > > > BPHS > > lagneshe.ashhTamage jAtaH siddhavidyAvishAradaH | > rogI chauro mahAkrodhI dyUtI cha paradAragaH || 8|| > 8. If Lagn's Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be an > accomplished scholar, be sickly, thievish, be given to much anger, be > a gambler and will join others' wives > > Question 8: Why does 8th house indicates others wife?. > > COVA: > Question 9: Lagna lord in 9th,10th and 11th causes blessings of > Vishnu, Ganesha and Shiva. Why? > > BPHS: > lagneshe vyayabhAvasthe dehasaukhyavivarjitaH | > vyarthavyayI mahAkrodhI shubhadR^ig.hyogavarjite || 12|| > 12. If Lagn's Lord is in Vyaya Bhava and is devoid of benefic Drishti > and/or Yuti, the native will be bereft of physical happiness, will > spend unfruitfully and be given to much anger. > > Question 10: What factor in 12th house cases a person to be short > tempered, when lagna lord goes there?. > > > If you have time please take part in this so we can spend some time > Improving our basics. > > Warm regards > S. Prabhakaran > > Om tat sat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2003 Report Share Posted September 24, 2003 ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| Dear Sanjay, Here is my humble attempt to answer your questions. Please excuse me for the mistakes which will be there. Overall I have this feeling I need to go back and try to understand more! regards Hari > Question 1. Why does Lagna lord in lagna gives 2 or more wives?. 8th and 1st house are marakas for 7th house, so placement of lagna lord in own house makes it a strong maraka. Thus more than one marriage is possible. > Question 2. Why is progenic bliss will be hard to be obtained for > lagna lord in 2nd?. Placement of lagna lord is in quadrant (10th) to putra bhava (5th) and aspects 8th, which is 4th to 5th house. Now happiness is shown by 4th house generally and according to the principle of argala, the planets placed in 10th will obstruct the activities shown by 4th so the happiness due to children may suffer. > Question 3: For lagna lord in 5th, Why is progenic happiness > mediocre and lose first child?. Not able to answer question relating to happiness on account of progeny but for loss of first child, the lagna lord aspects the maraka 11th house (7th from 5th) again. > Question 4: For lagna lord in 5th, Why will the person be given to > anger?. 5th house is 11th to 7th and generally shows the gains on account of marriage and also our desires including romance. In this way also it can show passion, which is loosely equivalent to anger. > Question 5: Why is early loss of spouce indicated of 1st lord in 6th? Lagna lord placed in 6th (12th to 7th) aspects 12th which is again a dusthana for 7th. Planets placed in 12-6-5-11 shall give their effects in middle age (40~80 years based on a paramayush of 120 years) and since a person generally marries around 25 in this Kali Yuga, that could indicate early loss of spouse. > Question 6: For lagna lord in 7th. Why is there a possibilty of short > lived wife?. Again, lagna lord is maraka for 7th house. > > Questoin 7: For lagna lord in 7th, What causes possible asceticism?. We enter this world through 1st and leave through the 7th. 7th signifies our primary desires which is the reason for rebirth. Lagna lord placement here could show deep understanding of these desires which then may lead to ascetism. > Question 8: Why does 8th house indicates others wife?. Stumped here! > Question 9: Lagna lord in 9th,10th and 11th causes blessings of > Vishnu, Ganesha and Shiva. Why? Stumped here again! > > > Question 10: What factor in 12th house cases a person to be short > tempered, when lagna lord goes there?. > 12th is house of loss and lagna lord aspects 6th house of worries. This coupling of worries with a feeling of loss may lead to anger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2003 Report Share Posted September 24, 2003 || Om Hayagrivam Upasmahe || || Om Gurave Namah || Dear S.Prabakaranji, Namaste ! With my little knowledge i have attempted to answer some of the questions the questions.Pls see my answers below. || HARE RAMA KRISHNA || Regards, Krithi Question 1. Why does Lagna lord in lagna gives 2 or more wives?. ANS : Since lagna is one of the maraka stana for 7th house (spouse),lagna lord in lagna becomes strong maraka for spouse.This may be one of the reason.But i think we should see the affliction to second house from upapada for breakage in marriage and strength of 8th house from UL for possiblility of second marriage. Question 2. Why is progenic bliss will be hard to be obtained for lagna lord in 2nd?. ANS : Naturally any benefic planets in 4th from any house produces suba-argala on the latter one.And this subargala will be obstructed by any planet in 10th from the said house.So this may be due to the virodargala of lagna lord in 2nd house on any benefic argala produced by planets in 8th house on 5th house. Question 3: For lagna lord in 5th, Why is progenic happiness mediocre and lose first child?. ANS : No idea. Question 4: For lagna lord in 5th, Why will the person be given to anger?. ANS : No idea. Question 5: Why is early loss of spouce indicated of 1st lord in 6th? ANS : No idea. Question 6: For lagna lord in 7th. Why is there a possibilty of short lived wife?. ANS : No idea.I think it should give strong dominating wife. Questoin 7: For lagna lord in 7th, What causes possible asceticism?. ANS : No idea. Question 8: Why does 8th house indicates others wife?. ANS : No idea.I think it may indicate peoples involved in breaking the first marriage.It may indicate females other than Darma Patini. Question 9: Lagna lord in 9th,10th and 11th causes blessings of Vishnu, Ganesha and Shiva. Why? ANS : 9th house indicates fortune,bakya which are represented by Maha Vishnu.He provides food for our survival.So lagna lord in this house indicates blessings of vishnu. 10th house represents the Middle Heaven ,which is the direction of Moksha.Ganeshji being the deity of Ketu(Moksha karaka) eats all the ladoos(Removes our sins) and yeilds us moksha by his blessing.So LL in 10th may show the blessings of Ganeshji. 11th house from any house is the house of destruction for the latter said house.Shivaji,as rudra does destruction work.So LL in 11th house may show blessings of Shivji. Question 10: What factor in 12th house cases a person to be short tempered, when lagna lord goes there?. ANS : No idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2003 Report Share Posted September 24, 2003 || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Hari and Krithi, I will reply in part to yours and Krithi's mail. I will give my views/answers latter if no answers comes during our discussions. I will give a thought, Whereever a planet is placed look where it aspects(7th). It indicates the major desire of planet. For lagna lord it indicates the individual's desire(or view). Understanding how a combination works will make one understand whether it will apply with other combinations. > > Question 1. Why does Lagna lord in lagna gives 2 or more wives?. > 8th and 1st house are marakas for 7th house, so placement of lagna > lord in own house makes it a strong maraka. Thus more than one > marriage is possible. Counter Question: Yes, Seventh house is maraka. So a stronger 7th house kills the individual?. Why did you assume that the first wife is dead and hence second wife!. > > Question 2. Why is progenic bliss will be hard to be obtained for > > lagna lord in 2nd?. > > Placement of lagna lord is in quadrant (10th) to putra bhava (5th) > and aspects 8th, which is 4th to 5th house. Now happiness is shown > by 4th house generally and according to the principle of argala, the > planets placed in 10th will obstruct the activities shown by 4th so > the happiness due to children may suffer. SanjayP: 8th house is happiness(4th/Sukha) for 5th house. If you say that 2nd(Karma of 5th) is having argala-badhak on 8th for 5th (Children). The Child's Happiness should reduce not one's own happiness toward children. Does it not form DharmaKarmadi pati yoga to Children?. Is something more needed to explain this dictum?. > > Question 3: For lagna lord in 5th, Why is progenic happiness > > mediocre and lose first child?. > > Not able to answer question relating to happiness on account of > progeny but for loss of first child, the lagna lord aspects the > maraka 11th house (7th from 5th) again. > > > Question 4: For lagna lord in 5th, Why will the person be given to anger?. > > 5th house is 11th to 7th and generally shows the gains on account of > marriage and also our desires including romance. In this way also it > can show passion, which is loosely equivalent to anger. > > > Question 5: Why is early loss of spouce indicated of 1st lord in > 6th? > > Lagna lord placed in 6th (12th to 7th) aspects 12th which is again a > dusthana for 7th. Planets placed in 12-6-5-11 shall give their > effects in middle age (40~80 years based on a paramayush of 120 > years) and since a person generally marries around 25 in this Kali > Yuga, that could indicate early loss of spouse. SanjayP: In Question 1 you said a strong Maraka also kills and a Maraka lord going to dushtana also kills. I feel the maraka applies here. I think this dictum could be independent of Yuga. > > Question 6: For lagna lord in 7th. Why is there a possibilty of > short > > lived wife?. > > Again, lagna lord is maraka for 7th house. > > > > > Questoin 7: For lagna lord in 7th, What causes possible > asceticism?. > > We enter this world through 1st and leave through the 7th. 7th > signifies our primary desires which is the reason for rebirth. Lagna > lord placement here could show deep understanding of these desires > which then may lead to ascetism. SanjayP: A Suggestion, Please take a look at Chaintanya mahaprabhu's chart(Leo Lagna) and Indira Gandhi's chart(Cancer Lagna). > > Question 8: Why does 8th house indicates others wife?. > Stumped here! > > Question 9: Lagna lord in 9th,10th and 11th causes blessings of > > Vishnu, Ganesha and Shiva. Why? > Stumped here again! > > Question 10: What factor in 12th house cases a person to be short > > tempered, when lagna lord goes there?. > 12th is house of loss and lagna lord aspects 6th house of worries. > This coupling of worries with a feeling of loss may lead to anger. SanjayP: Yes, I agree with you. This aspect logic works. Warm Regards S. Prabhakaran Om Tat Sat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2003 Report Share Posted September 24, 2003 || Om Sarva Saukyapradaaya Namah || || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Krithi and other members, Please read below your reply for my views. For other answers similar to yours please refer to Hari's mail(It goes without saying that ). Please also feel free to question my answers too. Warm Regards S. Prabhakaran > Question 1. Why does Lagna lord in lagna gives 2 or more wives?. > > ANS : Since lagna is one of the maraka stana for 7th house > (spouse),lagna lord in lagna becomes strong maraka for spouse.This > may be one of the reason.But i think we should see the affliction to > second house from upapada for breakage in marriage and strength of > 8th house from UL for possiblility of second marriage. > SanjayP: Yes, Upapada etc also need to be refered. Here we will just limit our discussion to few basics as to how yoga with graha, rashi and house occur. > Question 2. Why is progenic bliss will be hard to be obtained for > lagna lord in 2nd?. > > ANS : Naturally any benefic planets in 4th from any house produces > suba-argala on the latter one.And this subargala will be obstructed > by any planet in 10th from the said house.So this may be due to the > virodargala of lagna lord in 2nd house on any benefic argala produced > by planets in 8th house on 5th house. SanjayP: So you consider Lagna lord to be benefic or malefic?. Benefics are Jupiter, Venus, Moon (Waxing or S8 to K5), Mercury associated with them. Malefics are Mars, Saturn, Rahu, Ketu, Moon (Waning or K5 to k15- amavasya), mercury associated with these. > Question 6: For lagna lord in 7th. Why is there a possibilty of short > lived wife?. > > ANS : No idea.I think it should give strong dominating wife. SanjayP: So a dominating spouce gets killed ? > Question 8: Why does 8th house indicates others wife?. > > ANS : No idea.I think it may indicate peoples involved in breaking > the first marriage.It may indicate females other than Darma Patini. SanjayP: So it is not necessarily others wife?. any unwedded girl could also indicate it?. > > Question 9: Lagna lord in 9th,10th and 11th causes blessings of > Vishnu, Ganesha and Shiva. Why? > > > ANS : 9th house indicates fortune,bakya which are represented by Maha > Vishnu.He provides food for our survival.So lagna lord in this house > indicates blessings of vishnu. > > 10th house represents the Middle Heaven ,which is the direction > of Moksha.Ganeshji being the deity of Ketu(Moksha karaka) eats all > the ladoos(Removes our sins) and yeilds us moksha by his blessing.So LL in 10th may show the blessings of Ganeshji. SanjayP: So Vishnu or Shiva does not give moksha?. What is so unique about Lagna lord in 10th which makes it similar to Ganesha?. > > 11th house from any house is the house of destruction for the > latter said house.Shivaji,as rudra does destruction work.So LL in > 11th house may show blessings of Shivji. > SanjayP: yes, JUS: tanau tana danda hara 6th & it's 6th are punishment and Hara/Shiva. But why Shiva?. But what has destruciton got to do with blessings. We are counting blessings here. Om tat Sat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2003 Report Share Posted September 24, 2003 Dear Sanjay These are excellent thought provoking questions. Please correct me wherever you think my interpretation does not make sense. Here is my attempt: > Question 1. Why does Lagna lord in lagna gives 2 or more wives?. Lagna lord is a Maraka for 7th house and 2nd house being 8th from the 7th represents the end of marriage. So a maraka lord in the 2nd house would end first marriage. We have to look at the 8th house from UL to see whether there will be a second marriage. > Question 2. Why is progenic bliss will be hard to be obtained for > lagna lord in 2nd?. 9th house represents our dharma. Lagna lord being 9th to the 5th represents our dharma with respect to our children. This lord being in the 10th house from 5th house will cause obstruction (papargala) to progenic bliss. > Question 3: For lagna lord in 5th, Why is progenic happiness > mediocre and lose first child?. I think Lagnesh in the 5th house will tend to make one strict with their children because they will always be concerned about doing their dharma as a parent.(9th from the 5th) This will lower progenic happiness. I am not sure why it will cause one to lose first child. > Question 4: For lagna lord in 5th, Why will the person be given to > anger?. Lagnesh in the 5th house will make a person emotional and passionate, which can translate to anger. > Question 5: Why is early loss of spouce indicated of 1st lord in 6th? Maraka lord for marriage, lagna lord placed in 6th (12th to 7th) causes loss of marriage. > Question 6: For lagna lord in 7th. Why is there a possibilty of short > lived wife?. Maraka lord in the 7th house will cause this. > > Questoin 7: For lagna lord in 7th, What causes possible asceticism?. This placement will take energy away from our ego (lAGNA) and towards spirituality (7th from the ist). > Question 8: Why does 8th house indicates others wife?. It would seem to me that 8th house could signify anybody parents, brothers, sisters..... who would potentially cause a problem in the marriage. > Question 9: Lagna lord in 9th,10th and 11th causes blessings of > Vishnu, Ganesha and Shiva. Why? Vishnu represents Dharma, Ganesha Karma (as he is VignaVinaashkari in our karma path) and Shiva easy gains (as he is kind hearted and can be pleased very easily). > > Question 10: What factor in 12th house cases a person to be short > tempered, when lagna lord goes there?. > This placement will make the person put in a lot of resources into wasteful areas. I guess the realisation of loss of resources (time, money) will lead them to anger. Supriti , "onlyhari" <onlyhari> wrote: > ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| > > Dear Sanjay, > > Here is my humble attempt to answer your questions. Please excuse me > for the mistakes which will be there. Overall I have this feeling I > need to go back and try to understand more! > > regards > Hari > > Question 1. Why does Lagna lord in lagna gives 2 or more wives?. > > 8th and 1st house are marakas for 7th house, so placement of lagna > lord in own house makes it a strong maraka. Thus more than one > marriage is possible. > > > Question 2. Why is progenic bliss will be hard to be obtained for > > lagna lord in 2nd?. > > Placement of lagna lord is in quadrant (10th) to putra bhava (5th) > and aspects 8th, which is 4th to 5th house. Now happiness is shown > by 4th house generally and according to the principle of argala, the > planets placed in 10th will obstruct the activities shown by 4th so > the happiness due to children may suffer. > > > Question 3: For lagna lord in 5th, Why is progenic happiness > > mediocre and lose first child?. > > Not able to answer question relating to happiness on account of > progeny but for loss of first child, the lagna lord aspects the > maraka 11th house (7th from 5th) again. > > > Question 4: For lagna lord in 5th, Why will the person be given to > > anger?. > > 5th house is 11th to 7th and generally shows the gains on account of > marriage and also our desires including romance. In this way also it > can show passion, which is loosely equivalent to anger. > > > Question 5: Why is early loss of spouce indicated of 1st lord in > 6th? > > Lagna lord placed in 6th (12th to 7th) aspects 12th which is again a > dusthana for 7th. Planets placed in 12-6-5-11 shall give their > effects in middle age (40~80 years based on a paramayush of 120 > years) and since a person generally marries around 25 in this Kali > Yuga, that could indicate early loss of spouse. > > > Question 6: For lagna lord in 7th. Why is there a possibilty of > short > > lived wife?. > > Again, lagna lord is maraka for 7th house. > > > > > Questoin 7: For lagna lord in 7th, What causes possible > asceticism?. > > We enter this world through 1st and leave through the 7th. 7th > signifies our primary desires which is the reason for rebirth. Lagna > lord placement here could show deep understanding of these desires > which then may lead to ascetism. > > > Question 8: Why does 8th house indicates others wife?. > > Stumped here! > > > > Question 9: Lagna lord in 9th,10th and 11th causes blessings of > > Vishnu, Ganesha and Shiva. Why? > > Stumped here again! > > > > > > > Question 10: What factor in 12th house cases a person to be short > > tempered, when lagna lord goes there?. > > > > 12th is house of loss and lagna lord aspects 6th house of worries. > This coupling of worries with a feeling of loss may lead to anger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2003 Report Share Posted September 24, 2003 ||OM Brihaspataye Namah|| Dear Sanjay, Namaste. Yes, when you had first posed the questions, I had considered the question "What is the minimum possible information needed to answer the questions?" and came up with: (1) house placement relative to house of interest (eg. lagna lord placed in 2nd which is 10th to 5th) (2) Since we dont know what the graha is, we have to consider only normal 7th aspect which as you pointed out indicates desire. (3)Argalas (4-10, 2-12, 11-3, 5-9) (4)As Sudharsan said, karakas for that house as well though I am less sure if this is really required. (5) Not sure if we can bring in arudhas here (Upapada) as reference is only to placement of lagna lord. Now to answer your questions:- > Counter Question: Yes, Seventh house is maraka. So a stronger 7th > house kills the individual?. > Why did you assume that the first wife is dead and hence second > wife!. Not sure if I understand your question! Lagna is marakasthana for 7th house and lagna placed in 1st house makes it a strong maraka for spouse. IAC, the explanation given by me doesnt satisfactorily answer the question of 'why 2 spouses'? My reasoning went along the lines of trouble created by a strong maraka. what could be the types of trouble created then; possibly it would include death of first spouse. But then again, why 2 spouses? > SanjayP: 8th house is happiness(4th/Sukha) for 5th house. If you say > that 2nd(Karma of 5th) is having argala-badhak on 8th for 5th > (Children). The Child's Happiness should reduce not one's own > happiness toward children. Does it not form DharmaKarmadi pati yoga > to Children?. Is something more needed to explain this dictum?. Somewhat lost here; could you rephrase or explain? regards Hari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2003 Report Share Posted September 25, 2003 || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Hari, > (4)As Sudharsan said, karakas for that house as well though I am > less sure if this is really required. SanjayP: Kaaraka of the house plays an important part. First use primary house kaaraka as mention by Parasara and then the other kaaraka for the houses. > (5) Not sure if we can bring in arudhas here (Upapada) as reference > is only to placement of lagna lord. SanjayP: You can use the kaaraka of just the house whose lord we are analysing for now. We'll avoid using A12 for 7th house analysis for now. Else you can consider the fact that AL fall in 3rd house when Lagna lord goes to 2nd house. > Now to answer your questions:- > > Counter Question: Yes, Seventh house is maraka. So a stronger 7th > > house kills the individual?. SanjayP: Consider what Parasara says for 7th lord in 7th. dAreshe saptame bhAve jAto dArasukhAnvitaH | dhIro vichaxaNo dhImAn.h kevalaM vAtarogavAn.h || 79|| 79. If Yuvati's Lord is in Yuvati Bhava, the native will be endowed with happiness through wife, be courageous, skilful and intelligent, but only afflicted by windy diseases. Here there is no emphasis in early death. So for Lagna lord in lagna, It may not indicate early death for wife. Another factor you can consider is lagna lord in lagna gives Sun god's blessings. You see Sun god also marrige twice! Is there a relationship?. > > SanjayP: 8th house is happiness(4th/Sukha) for 5th house. If you > say > > that 2nd(Karma of 5th) is having argala-badhak on 8th for 5th > > (Children). The Child's Happiness should reduce not one's own > > happiness toward children. Does it not form DharmaKarmadi pati > yoga > > to Children?. Is something more needed to explain this dictum?. SanjayP: I just meant to say that 8th house Child's happiness. If lagna lord goes to 2nd house, With reference to 5th house. it's like 9th house going to 10th It may not be bad for the child's happiness. So Why the dictum?. Warm Regards, S. Prabhakaran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2003 Report Share Posted September 25, 2003 Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Sanjay P, It is a very interesting exercise. Most books have listed the possible outcomes related to lord of X being placed in Y. Learners like me have simply noted down such listings w/o understanding the basic concept behind the same. I can see concepts of Marka and Argala being used in the explanations so far. I remember Sanjay Rathji mentioning "carrying significations of X house to Y" while explaining similar statements for one of the house. It will be really great if a summary of priciples is posted after the attempts to explain are made. Kind regards Ramesh , "Supriti Majumdar" <supriti15@h...> wrote: > Dear Sanjay > These are excellent thought provoking questions. Please correct me > wherever you think my interpretation does not make sense. Here is my > attempt: > > > Question 1. Why does Lagna lord in lagna gives 2 or more wives?. > > Lagna lord is a Maraka for 7th house and 2nd house being 8th from the > 7th represents the end of marriage. So a maraka lord in the 2nd > house would end first marriage. We have to look at the 8th house > from UL to see whether there will be a second marriage. > > > Question 2. Why is progenic bliss will be hard to be obtained for > > lagna lord in 2nd?. > > 9th house represents our dharma. Lagna lord being 9th to the 5th > represents our dharma with respect to our children. This lord being > in the 10th house from 5th house will cause obstruction (papargala) > to progenic bliss. > > > Question 3: For lagna lord in 5th, Why is progenic happiness > > mediocre and lose first child?. > > I think Lagnesh in the 5th house will tend to make one strict with > their children because they will always be concerned about doing > their dharma as a parent.(9th from the 5th) This will lower progenic > happiness. I am not sure why it will cause one to lose first child. > > > Question 4: For lagna lord in 5th, Why will the person be given to > > anger?. > > Lagnesh in the 5th house will make a person emotional and passionate, > which can translate to anger. > > > Question 5: Why is early loss of spouce indicated of 1st lord in > 6th? > > Maraka lord for marriage, lagna lord placed in 6th (12th to 7th) > causes loss of marriage. > > > Question 6: For lagna lord in 7th. Why is there a possibilty of > short > > lived wife?. > Maraka lord in the 7th house will cause this. > > > > > Questoin 7: For lagna lord in 7th, What causes possible > asceticism?. > This placement will take energy away from our ego (lAGNA) and towards > spirituality (7th from the ist). > > > Question 8: Why does 8th house indicates others wife?. > It would seem to me that 8th house could signify anybody parents, > brothers, sisters..... who would potentially cause a problem in the > marriage. > > > > Question 9: Lagna lord in 9th,10th and 11th causes blessings of > > Vishnu, Ganesha and Shiva. Why? > > Vishnu represents Dharma, Ganesha Karma (as he is VignaVinaashkari in > our karma path) and Shiva easy gains (as he is kind hearted and can > be pleased very easily). > > > > > > Question 10: What factor in 12th house cases a person to be short > > tempered, when lagna lord goes there?. > > > > This placement will make the person put in a lot of resources into > wasteful areas. I guess the realisation of loss of resources (time, > money) will lead them to anger. > > Supriti > , "onlyhari" <onlyhari> wrote: > > ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| > > > > Dear Sanjay, > > > > Here is my humble attempt to answer your questions. Please excuse > me > > for the mistakes which will be there. Overall I have this feeling I > > need to go back and try to understand more! > > > > regards > > Hari > > > Question 1. Why does Lagna lord in lagna gives 2 or more wives?. > > > > 8th and 1st house are marakas for 7th house, so placement of lagna > > lord in own house makes it a strong maraka. Thus more than one > > marriage is possible. > > > > > Question 2. Why is progenic bliss will be hard to be obtained for > > > lagna lord in 2nd?. > > > > Placement of lagna lord is in quadrant (10th) to putra bhava (5th) > > and aspects 8th, which is 4th to 5th house. Now happiness is shown > > by 4th house generally and according to the principle of argala, > the > > planets placed in 10th will obstruct the activities shown by 4th so > > the happiness due to children may suffer. > > > > > Question 3: For lagna lord in 5th, Why is progenic happiness > > > mediocre and lose first child?. > > > > Not able to answer question relating to happiness on account of > > progeny but for loss of first child, the lagna lord aspects the > > maraka 11th house (7th from 5th) again. > > > > > Question 4: For lagna lord in 5th, Why will the person be given > to > > > anger?. > > > > 5th house is 11th to 7th and generally shows the gains on account > of > > marriage and also our desires including romance. In this way also > it > > can show passion, which is loosely equivalent to anger. > > > > > Question 5: Why is early loss of spouce indicated of 1st lord in > > 6th? > > > > Lagna lord placed in 6th (12th to 7th) aspects 12th which is again > a > > dusthana for 7th. Planets placed in 12-6-5-11 shall give their > > effects in middle age (40~80 years based on a paramayush of 120 > > years) and since a person generally marries around 25 in this Kali > > Yuga, that could indicate early loss of spouse. > > > > > Question 6: For lagna lord in 7th. Why is there a possibilty of > > short > > > lived wife?. > > > > Again, lagna lord is maraka for 7th house. > > > > > > > > Questoin 7: For lagna lord in 7th, What causes possible > > asceticism?. > > > > We enter this world through 1st and leave through the 7th. 7th > > signifies our primary desires which is the reason for rebirth. > Lagna > > lord placement here could show deep understanding of these desires > > which then may lead to ascetism. > > > > > Question 8: Why does 8th house indicates others wife?. > > > > Stumped here! > > > > > > > Question 9: Lagna lord in 9th,10th and 11th causes blessings of > > > Vishnu, Ganesha and Shiva. Why? > > > > Stumped here again! > > > > > > > > > > > Question 10: What factor in 12th house cases a person to be short > > > tempered, when lagna lord goes there?. > > > > > > > 12th is house of loss and lagna lord aspects 6th house of worries. > > This coupling of worries with a feeling of loss may lead to anger. 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Guest guest Posted September 25, 2003 Report Share Posted September 25, 2003 ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| Dear Sanjay, > SanjayP: Consider what Parasara says for 7th lord in 7th. > > dAreshe saptame bhAve jAto dArasukhAnvitaH | > dhIro vichaxaNo dhImAn.h kevalaM vAtarogavAn.h || 79|| > 79. If Yuvati's Lord is in Yuvati Bhava, the native will be endowed > with happiness through wife, be courageous, skilful and intelligent, > but only afflicted by windy diseases. > > Here there is no emphasis in early death. So for Lagna lord in lagna, > It may not indicate early death for wife. Yes, your point understood. > > Another factor you can consider is lagna lord in lagna gives Sun > god's blessings. You see Sun god also marrige twice! Is there a > relationship?. > Should we think this way (mythologically)? Then what is the use of all these basic principles? Do you mean to imply that if Sun is in lagna of Le, the native will get married twice? > > SanjayP: I just meant to say that 8th house Child's happiness. If > lagna lord goes to 2nd house, With reference to 5th house. it's like > 9th house going to 10th It may not be bad for the child's happiness. > So Why the dictum?. Got your point. You meant to say that 8th house shows happiness OF children and not happiness DUE to children. Then which house indicates happiness ON ACCOUNT of children? Does 5th house show children directly or potential for having children? regards Hari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2003 Report Share Posted September 26, 2003 Dear SanjayP Ji, Namaste, You have mentioned earlier that: "Benefics are Jupiter, Venus, Moon (Waxing or S8 to K5), Mercury associated with them. Malefics are Mars, Saturn, Rahu, Ketu, Moon (Waning or K5 to k15- amavasya), mercury associated with these " Please educate me on what is the meaning of "S8 to K5" and "K5 to K15- Amavasya". Regards Raghunadha Rao , Krithi <krithi_hayagriva> wrote: > || Om Hayagrivam Upasmahe || > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > Dear SanjayP ji, > > After reading ur replies with clues,iam attempting again.My answers are in blue.Pls see my answers below. > > || HARE RAMA KRISHNA || > > Regards, > > Krithi > > Question 1. Why does Lagna lord in lagna gives 2 or more wives?. > > > > ANS : Since lagna is one of the maraka stana for 7th house > > (spouse),lagna lord in lagna becomes strong maraka for spouse.This > > may be one of the reason.But i think we should see the affliction > to > > second house from upapada for breakage in marriage and strength of > > 8th house from UL for possiblility of second marriage. > > > > SanjayP: Yes, Upapada etc also need to be refered. Here we will just > limit our discussion to few basics as to how yoga with graha, rashi > and house occur. > > Krithi : Another answer could be,LL placed in Lagna,aspects the 7th house.In this case a Maha Purush is born who has blessings of SUN which promotes good health.Good Health could be one of the reason for multiple affairs.As rohiniji said,LL aspecting the 7th shall promote the 7th house.LL's aspect on 7th house shows the native's desire to have more than one wife.This may be the reason for more marriages. > > > > > Question 2. Why is progenic bliss will be hard to be obtained for > > lagna lord in 2nd?. > > > > ANS : Naturally any benefic planets in 4th from any house produces > > suba-argala on the latter one.And this subargala will be obstructed > > by any planet in 10th from the said house.So this may be due to the > > virodargala of lagna lord in 2nd house on any benefic argala > produced > > by planets in 8th house on 5th house. > > SanjayP: So you consider Lagna lord to be benefic or malefic?. > > Krithi : i think,Lagna lord is always benefic for the native even if he ows a dusthana.That's why gurudev mentions the stone of lagna as "Life Stone".But while applying argala we should consider its karaktwas also. > > > > > Benefics are Jupiter, Venus, Moon (Waxing or S8 to K5), Mercury > associated with them. > > Malefics are Mars, Saturn, Rahu, Ketu, Moon (Waning or K5 to k15- > amavasya), mercury associated with these. > > Krithi : Yes,i think this is the standard definition for natural benefics and natural malefic.But,I would like to differ here slightly,particularly when we use argala principles.While using argala princliple,i think we should consider the Natural karakatwa of a planet for judging the good and bad results of argala.For example If we consider saturn as malefic always as per the above definition and say for ex saturn is in 9th house.As per the above definition,saturn will produce malefic argala on 8th house.But in this case it will not be malefic argala rather it will be a benefic argala on 8th house, since sat is the natural Ayush Karaka(8th house).Iam just writing what i understood about argala.Pls correct me if am wrong . > > > > > > Question 6: For lagna lord in 7th. Why is there a possibilty of > short > > lived wife?. > > > > ANS : No idea.I think it should give strong dominating wife. > > > SanjayP: So a dominating spouce gets killed ? > > Krithi : May be > > > Question 8: Why does 8th house indicates others wife?. > > > > ANS : No idea.I think it may indicate peoples involved in breaking > > the first marriage.It may indicate females other than Darma Patini. > > SanjayP: So it is not necessarily others wife?. any unwedded girl > could also indicate it?. > > Krithi : Since 8th house is maraka for 7th house,planets in 8th may involve in breaking the marriage.Really i donot understand the logic behind the sentance "8th house indicates others wife". > > > > > > Question 9: Lagna lord in 9th,10th and 11th causes blessings of > > Vishnu, Ganesha and Shiva. Why? > > > > > > ANS : 9th house indicates fortune,bakya which are represented by > Maha > > Vishnu.He provides food for our survival.So lagna lord in this > house > > indicates blessings of vishnu. > > > > 10th house represents the Middle Heaven ,which is the > direction > > of Moksha.Ganeshji being the deity of Ketu(Moksha karaka) eats all > > the ladoos(Removes our sins) and yeilds us moksha by his > blessing.So LL in 10th may show the blessings of Ganeshji. > > SanjayP: So Vishnu or Shiva does not give moksha?. What is so unique > about Lagna lord in 10th which makes it similar to Ganesha?. > > Krithi : i have not written anything about deities giving moksha.I just related ganesha(deity of ketu) with 10th house by considering the direction of ketu,which is direct towards heaven which is also shown by 10th house(Mid Heaven).It is just my guess. > > > > > > 11th house from any house is the house of destruction for the > > latter said house.Shivaji,as rudra does destruction work.So LL in > > 11th house may show blessings of Shivji. > > > > SanjayP: yes, > JUS: tanau tana danda hara > 6th & it's 6th are punishment and Hara/Shiva. > But why Shiva?. But what has destruciton got to do with blessings. We > are counting blessings here. > > Krithi : No idea. Awaiting for ur feedback. > > > > > Om tat Sat > > > India Matrimony: Find your partner online.Post your profile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2003 Report Share Posted September 26, 2003 Dear Raghunandan, You addressed this email to Sanjay, I hope you do not mind my answering your question. S8 refers to shukla ashtami, K5 to Krishna panchami and K15 to amavasya. Supriti , "Rao Nemani" <raon1008> wrote: > Dear SanjayP Ji, > > Namaste, > > You have mentioned earlier that: > "Benefics are Jupiter, Venus, Moon (Waxing or S8 to K5), Mercury > associated with them. > > Malefics are Mars, Saturn, Rahu, Ketu, Moon (Waning or K5 to k15- > amavasya), mercury associated with these > " > > Please educate me on what is the meaning of "S8 to K5" and "K5 to K15- > Amavasya". > > Regards > Raghunadha Rao > , Krithi <krithi_hayagriva> > wrote: > > || Om Hayagrivam Upasmahe || > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > > > > > Dear SanjayP ji, > > > > After reading ur replies with clues,iam attempting again.My answers > are in blue.Pls see my answers below. > > > > || HARE RAMA KRISHNA || > > > > Regards, > > > > Krithi > > > > Question 1. Why does Lagna lord in lagna gives 2 or more wives?. > > > > > > ANS : Since lagna is one of the maraka stana for 7th house > > > (spouse),lagna lord in lagna becomes strong maraka for > spouse.This > > > may be one of the reason.But i think we should see the affliction > > to > > > second house from upapada for breakage in marriage and strength > of > > > 8th house from UL for possiblility of second marriage. > > > > > > > SanjayP: Yes, Upapada etc also need to be refered. Here we will > just > > limit our discussion to few basics as to how yoga with graha, rashi > > and house occur. > > > > Krithi : Another answer could be,LL placed in Lagna,aspects the 7th > house.In this case a Maha Purush is born who has blessings of SUN > which promotes good health.Good Health could be one of the reason for > multiple affairs.As rohiniji said,LL aspecting the 7th shall promote > the 7th house.LL's aspect on 7th house shows the native's desire to > have more than one wife.This may be the reason for more marriages. > > > > > > > > > Question 2. Why is progenic bliss will be hard to be obtained for > > > lagna lord in 2nd?. > > > > > > ANS : Naturally any benefic planets in 4th from any house > produces > > > suba-argala on the latter one.And this subargala will be > obstructed > > > by any planet in 10th from the said house.So this may be due to > the > > > virodargala of lagna lord in 2nd house on any benefic argala > > produced > > > by planets in 8th house on 5th house. > > > > SanjayP: So you consider Lagna lord to be benefic or malefic?. > > > > Krithi : i think,Lagna lord is always benefic for the native even > if he ows a dusthana.That's why gurudev mentions the stone of lagna > as "Life Stone".But while applying argala we should consider its > karaktwas also. > > > > > > > > > > Benefics are Jupiter, Venus, Moon (Waxing or S8 to K5), Mercury > > associated with them. > > > > Malefics are Mars, Saturn, Rahu, Ketu, Moon (Waning or K5 to k15- > > amavasya), mercury associated with these. > > > > Krithi : Yes,i think this is the standard definition for natural > benefics and natural malefic.But,I would like to differ here > slightly,particularly when we use argala principles.While using > argala princliple,i think we should consider the Natural karakatwa of > a planet for judging the good and bad results of argala.For example > If we consider saturn as malefic always as per the above definition > and say for ex saturn is in 9th house.As per the above > definition,saturn will produce malefic argala on 8th house.But in > this case it will not be malefic argala rather it will be a benefic > argala on 8th house, since sat is the natural Ayush Karaka(8th > house).Iam just writing what i understood about argala.Pls correct me > if am wrong . > > > > > > > > > > > Question 6: For lagna lord in 7th. Why is there a possibilty of > > short > > > lived wife?. > > > > > > ANS : No idea.I think it should give strong dominating wife. > > > > > > SanjayP: So a dominating spouce gets killed ? > > > > Krithi : May be > > > > > Question 8: Why does 8th house indicates others wife?. > > > > > > ANS : No idea.I think it may indicate peoples involved in > breaking > > > the first marriage.It may indicate females other than Darma > Patini. > > > > SanjayP: So it is not necessarily others wife?. any unwedded girl > > could also indicate it?. > > > > Krithi : Since 8th house is maraka for 7th house,planets in 8th may > involve in breaking the marriage.Really i donot understand the logic > behind the sentance "8th house indicates others wife". > > > > > > > > > > Question 9: Lagna lord in 9th,10th and 11th causes blessings of > > > Vishnu, Ganesha and Shiva. Why? > > > > > > > > > ANS : 9th house indicates fortune,bakya which are represented by > > Maha > > > Vishnu.He provides food for our survival.So lagna lord in this > > house > > > indicates blessings of vishnu. > > > > > > 10th house represents the Middle Heaven ,which is the > > direction > > > of Moksha.Ganeshji being the deity of Ketu(Moksha karaka) eats > all > > > the ladoos(Removes our sins) and yeilds us moksha by his > > blessing.So LL in 10th may show the blessings of Ganeshji. > > > > SanjayP: So Vishnu or Shiva does not give moksha?. What is so > unique > > about Lagna lord in 10th which makes it similar to Ganesha?. > > > > Krithi : i have not written anything about deities giving moksha.I > just related ganesha(deity of ketu) with 10th house by considering > the direction of ketu,which is direct towards heaven which is also > shown by 10th house(Mid Heaven).It is just my guess. > > > > > > > > > > 11th house from any house is the house of destruction for > the > > > latter said house.Shivaji,as rudra does destruction work.So LL in > > > 11th house may show blessings of Shivji. > > > > > > > SanjayP: yes, > > JUS: tanau tana danda hara > > 6th & it's 6th are punishment and Hara/Shiva. > > But why Shiva?. But what has destruciton got to do with blessings. > We > > are counting blessings here. > > > > Krithi : No idea. Awaiting for ur feedback. > > > > > > > > > > Om tat Sat > > > > > > India Matrimony: Find your partner online.Post your profile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2003 Report Share Posted September 26, 2003 || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Ramesh, Gurudev told that there should be no spoon feeding for learning Jyotish. One has to get to the principles themselves. > It will be really great if a summary of priciples is posted after the > attempts to explain are made. Also, If there were such simple thumb rules Parashara would have not given 148 slokas!, for Chapter 24. 'Effects of the Bhava Lords' (bhAveshaphalAdhyAyaH. If 12x12 = 144 possible cominations(actually lesser) of bhava lord position for all houses is there. Parashara went to give more than that many slokas to explain. Maharishi Parashara does not waste words. We may even get more that 148 principles/thumb rules from that chapter alone. Warm Regards S. Prabhakaran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2003 Report Share Posted September 26, 2003 || Om Gurave Namaha || Dear Sanjay, I will try to attempt the following question: "If the Lord is in the second house, the native is scholarly, wealthy, happy, religious, honorable and passionate. Progenic bliss will be hard to obtain. Question 2. Why is progenic bliss will be hard to be obtained for lagna lord in 2nd?." Ans: With Lagna Lord in the second house, the person is for more money (2nd house) and work (artha trikona). The aspect on the 8th house can result in moving to different places to gain money/work. This will lead to he not being at home and hence denied of progeny happiness. In other words, the native is away from the children most of the time. In this case the 5th house from Lagna is also the 4th (happiness) from Paka Lagna . If the 5th house/ Lord is weak, the native will lack happiness . As always please correct me if Iam offtrack. regards, Shriram , "sanjayprabhakaran" <sanjayp@s...> wrote: > || Om Gurave Namah || > > Dear Jyotish Students, > Since the list is not discussing some basics I thought of starting a > discussion on Lagna lord in various houses. > > COVA > If the Lord is in the ascendant, the native is strong, fickle minded, > brave, intelligent, with two or more wives, mahapurush (great person) > and blessed by the Sun God. > > BPHS > agneshe lagnage dehasukhabhAg.h bhujavikramI | > manasvI chaJNchalashchaiva dvibhAryo parago.api va || 24.1|| > 1. Effects of Lagn's Lord in Various Bhavas (up to Sloka 12). Should > Lagn's Lord be in Lagn itself, the native will be endowed with > physical happiness and prowess. He will be intelligent, fickle- > minded, will have two wives and will unite with other females. > > Question 1. Why does Lagna lord in lagna gives 2 or more wives?. > > > COVA > If the Lord is in the second house, the native is scholarly, wealthy, > happy, religious, honorable and passionate. Progenic bliss will be > hard to obtain. > > Question 2. Why is progenic bliss will be hard to be obtained for > lagna lord in 2nd?. > > BPHS > lagneshe sutage jantoH sutasaukhyaM cha madhyamam.h | > prathamApatyanAshaH syAnmAnI krodhI nR^ipapriyaH || 5|| > 5. If Lagn's Lord is in Putr Bhava, the native will have mediocre > progenic happiness, will lose his first child, be honourable, given > to anger and be dear to king. > > Question 3: For lagna lord in 5th, Why is progenic happiness mediocre > and lose first child?. > Question 4: For lagna lord in 5th, Why will the person be given to > anger?. > > > > COVA > If the Lord is in the sixth house, debts and ill health are > indicated. He will be troubled by enemies. He will be intelligent and > courageous and if benefics aspect or during the period of lagnesh > will destroy enemies, acquire wealth and a royal status. Early loss > of spouse is indicated. > > Question 5: Why is early loss of spouce indicated of 1st lord in 6th? > > > COVA > > If the Lord is in the seventh house, wife is short lived; more than > one marriage and misfortunes are indicated. Unless the lagnesh is > strong the native could become an ascetic or nomad. If strong, great > wealth and prosperity are indicated. > > Question 6: For lagna lord in 7th. Why is there a possibilty of short > lived wife?. > > Questoin 7: For lagna lord in 7th, What causes possible asceticism?. > > > BPHS > > lagneshe.ashhTamage jAtaH siddhavidyAvishAradaH | > rogI chauro mahAkrodhI dyUtI cha paradAragaH || 8|| > 8. If Lagn's Lord is in Randhr Bhava, the native will be an > accomplished scholar, be sickly, thievish, be given to much anger, be > a gambler and will join others' wives > > Question 8: Why does 8th house indicates others wife?. > > COVA: > Question 9: Lagna lord in 9th,10th and 11th causes blessings of > Vishnu, Ganesha and Shiva. Why? > > BPHS: > lagneshe vyayabhAvasthe dehasaukhyavivarjitaH | > vyarthavyayI mahAkrodhI shubhadR^ig.hyogavarjite || 12|| > 12. If Lagn's Lord is in Vyaya Bhava and is devoid of benefic Drishti > and/or Yuti, the native will be bereft of physical happiness, will > spend unfruitfully and be given to much anger. > > Question 10: What factor in 12th house cases a person to be short > tempered, when lagna lord goes there?. > > > If you have time please take part in this so we can spend some time > Improving our basics. > > Warm regards > S. Prabhakaran > > Om tat sat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2003 Report Share Posted October 1, 2003 || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Shriram and other Jyotish Students, Let us look at some other Slokas of BPHS same chapter for some clues, > "If the Lord is in the second house, the native is scholarly, > wealthy, > happy, religious, honorable and passionate. Progenic bliss will be > hard to obtain. > > Question 2. Why is progenic bliss will be hard to be obtained for > lagna lord in 2nd?." > > Ans: With Lagna Lord in the second house, the person is for more > money (2nd house) and work (artha trikona). The aspect on the 8th > house can result in moving to different places to gain money/work. > This will lead to he not being at home and hence denied of progeny > happiness. In other words, the native is away from the children most > of the time. > > In this case the 5th house from Lagna is also the 4th (happiness) > from Paka Lagna . If the 5th house/ Lord is weak, the native will > lack happiness . > dhaneshe dhanage jAto dhanavAn.h garvasaMyutaH | dvibhAryo bahubhAryo vA sutahInaH prajAyate || 14|| 14. If Dhan's Lord is in Dhan Bhava, the native will be wealthy, proud, will have two, or more wives and be bereft of progeny. dhaneshe ripubhAvasthe sashubhe shatruto dhanam.h | sapApe shatruto hAnirjaMghAvaikalyavAn.h bhavet.h || 18|| 18. If Dhan's Lord is in Ari Bhava along with a benefic, the native will gain wealth through his enemies; if Dhan's Lord is yuti with a malefic, there will be loss through enemies apart from mutilation of shanks. Read those two slokas and notice that 4th from 2nd lord placement is destroyed. in Sloka 14, 4th from 2nd i.e 5th is destroyed and in Sloka 18, 4th from 6th i.e 9th. 9th house rules Shank (thighs/legs). Getting any clues? -Warm Regards S. Prabhakaran Om Tat Sat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2003 Report Share Posted October 1, 2003 || Om Guruvae Namaha || Dear Sanjay.P , In the first case ( 2nd lord in 2nd ), the (10th) karya bhava from 5th is affected and in the 2nd case (2nd lord in 6th), the karya bhava from 9th is affected. When the ascendant lord is in 2nd , the karya bhava from 5th is affected. Prasara says when 1st lord is in 2nd (or) 2nd lord is in 2nd (or) 2nd lord is in 10th , the native will have two or more wifes. In all these cases he mentions there will no progeny bliss. So i think when a native has more than one wife he is profligate and hence does not get progeny or even if he has children he will not be happy with them (because of many wifes he cannot spend enough time with the children , also if the child comes to know of such a father he would not like him !! ). regards, Shriram , "sanjayprabhakaran" <sanjayp@s...> wrote: > || Om Gurave Namah || > Dear Shriram and other Jyotish Students, > Let us look at some other Slokas of BPHS same chapter for some clues, > > > "If the Lord is in the second house, the native is scholarly, > > wealthy, > > happy, religious, honorable and passionate. Progenic bliss will be > > hard to obtain. > > > > Question 2. Why is progenic bliss will be hard to be obtained for > > lagna lord in 2nd?." > > > > Ans: With Lagna Lord in the second house, the person is for more > > money (2nd house) and work (artha trikona). The aspect on the 8th > > house can result in moving to different places to gain money/work. > > This will lead to he not being at home and hence denied of progeny > > happiness. In other words, the native is away from the children > most > > of the time. > > > > In this case the 5th house from Lagna is also the 4th > (happiness) > > from Paka Lagna . If the 5th house/ Lord is weak, the native will > > lack happiness . > > > > > dhaneshe dhanage jAto dhanavAn.h garvasaMyutaH | > dvibhAryo bahubhAryo vA sutahInaH prajAyate || 14|| > 14. If Dhan's Lord is in Dhan Bhava, the native will be wealthy, > proud, will have two, or more wives and be bereft of progeny. > > dhaneshe ripubhAvasthe sashubhe shatruto dhanam.h | > sapApe shatruto hAnirjaMghAvaikalyavAn.h bhavet.h || 18|| > 18. If Dhan's Lord is in Ari Bhava along with a benefic, the native > will gain wealth through his enemies; if Dhan's Lord is yuti with a > malefic, there will be loss through enemies apart from mutilation of > shanks. > > Read those two slokas and notice that 4th from 2nd lord placement is > destroyed. > in Sloka 14, 4th from 2nd i.e 5th is destroyed > and in Sloka 18, 4th from 6th i.e 9th. 9th house rules Shank > (thighs/legs). > > Getting any clues? > > -Warm Regards > S. Prabhakaran > > Om Tat Sat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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