[SJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Kala Sarpa Dosha/Yoga

September 19, 2003

Aum Namo Bhagvate Hrishikeshayaa

Pranaams Srinivas and Ramesh:

For some reasons, I am unable to reply to the post of Ramesh [perhaps

because it was addressed to other lists as well where I am not

d as a member].

In any case, thanks Ramesh for attaching Jay's beautiful article.

Let me elaborate on what I wrote the other day [attached below]...

As I mentioned, Jatakas who have Kala Sarpa Yoga, Kala Amrita Yoga, or

Graha Malika Yoga have a special purpose or desire; which has

resulted in this birth. Meaning that the focus of life in this birth is

on/for that special desire.

Now, what the focus is, is judged by where Rahu or Ketu [or respective

for Graha Malika Yoga] is placed. Also, it is important to note that

in such yogas, the respective; take over as the Atma Karaka instead of

the original Atma Karaka. Therefore Rahu takes on the role of Atma

Karaka for Kala Sarpa Yoga, and Ketu takes on the role of Atma Karaka

for Kala Amrita Yoga [similarly see the respective for Graha Malika

Yoga].

Before there are any doubts, Shishyas should refrain from pondering

that Ketu is not included in Chara Karaka scheme, and in that case, why

are we considering Ketu as Atma Karaka?

Refrain, because this debate and discussion is best carried out with

one's Guru Ji under proper guidance. I will avoid such questions in

this thread, even if posed to me, as I am not a Guru.

Having said that, it is obvious that for Kala Sarpa Yoga, Rahu will be

the Atma Karaka until the age 41/42 and for Kala Amrita Yoga, Ketu will

be the Atma Karaka until the age of 44/45 [similarly judge the

relative with Graha Malika Yoga].

To see what the special desire or purpose was, first find out where

Rahu or Ketu or respective has gone.

In Srinivas's chart, Rahu has gone to Sagittarius, where it is

debilitated. Sagittarius is a fiery sign. Fiery signs are Satya Yuga

Rasi [with watery signs = Treta Yuga, airy signs = Dwapara Yuga, and

earthy signs = Kali Yuga].

The fulfillment and achievement of the special desire indicated in the

chart will depend upon the above [i.e. the placement of respective in

either a fiery, watery, airy, or earthy sign].

In short, for fiery signs, the purpose of birth will be fulfilled with

some ease, for watery signs, the purpose of birth is complicated but

will be fulfilled through human relationships, for airy signs, the

purpose of birth starts becoming difficult and association with Guru,

knowledgeable people or literate minds becomes necessary. And finally,

for earthy signs, the purpose of birth is extremely difficult and

requires that the Jataka works from scratch.

Aum Namo Bhagvate Hrishikeshayaa, I bow down at the lotus feet of my Gurudeva for

imparting this knowledge to me which I now present at this list.

Therefore Srinivas, you should consider yourself lucky [if anything

because Rahu has gone to your fiery sign].

Now further to this, we must also look at where the dispositor [of

Sagittarius] has gone. Dispositor is Jupiter and it has gone in 7th

house [Capricorn]. This will tell us the purpose or rather the special

desire for birth.

Jupiter is debilitated in capricorn and is with Mars [your original

Atma Karaka]. While Jupiter is benefic, it is debilitated and

debilitated planets/grahas make planets/grahas conjoining them weak as

well.

In any way, your chart shows a strong focus on your 7th house. So major

difficulties will be mostly related to 7th house issues [all its

significations].

Your 7th house [from Lagna] happens to be 5th house as seen from Arudha

Lagna, 4th house as seen from Hora Lagna, 1st house as seen from Sri

Lagna, 10th house as seen from Sun, and finally 12th house as seen from

Moon or your Lagna Lord [Paka Lagna].

Thus a competent Jyotish or a focused shishya would judge the results

based on all of above and still stick to [first] Rasi before venturing

into Drekkana [D-3], Navamsa [D-9], or Shastyamsa [D-60; last and

provided the chart was thoroughly rectified at least into nearing

seconds].

Another striking thing about your chart is that many grahas [planets]

are in debilitation. i.e. Rahu, Ketu, Jupiter, and Mercury. Whereas Sun

is exalted and so is Mars [note that Mars is near enough to deep

exaltation].

Whether or not the Kala Sarpa Yoga is broken, depends on who you ask

and there are disagreements amongst many. As far as I am concerned,

if I see such yogas, I do advise that the pooja be done [as there is

never any harm in a pooja :-) ].

AL + A7 gives you the Srimantha Yoga [again issues related to your 7th

house as well] and UL is there as well, so I would consider the

placement of these Arudhas as another auspicious part of your chart.

A5 or the mantra pada has gone to 9th house, whereas the dispositor is

[again Jupiter] back in 7th house and debilitated. Therefore remedies

[alongside the pooja] would be mantras [that you can get from your

Guruji or some professionals]. As I have always maintained, I will

refrain from giving any mantras.

Rahu is Durga personified and Mars is Chamundi. If possible, pray to

Mother [Durga in all her forms] in the upcoming Navaratri [Durga Pooja

for 9 nights] and listen to her stories [Chandi Path] or read them

yourself [available in many religious book stores at a very reasonable

cost in Sanskrit or many languages]. Continuing Durga worship during or

until the natural maturity of Rahu will be helpful as you need mukti

[liberation].

Observe fasts on Wednesdays [the day of your Upa Pada = UL].

After the above remedies, things should get much better. As far as your

location, I am not sure where exactly you are in Gujarat. However, I do

remember there is a huge temple of Bhadra Kali in Ahmedabad [near Lal

Darwaja], where you could get help with the pooja. However, it has been

almost 20 years since I last visited India, so I am not sure about

right now.

Please check with someone and try to be physically present in the

pooja. That way it would be much better. You are currently running your

Saturn/Ketu/Moon [Maha/Antar/Pratyantar Vimshottari] and you could

*feel* quite depressed. However, things will change for the better

[soon]. Moon

your lagna lord is vargottama [in Aquarius in both Rasi and Navamsa],

therefore the strength and solutions to overcome problems will come

from within [yourself].

With that, please convey my best to all your loved ones ever and you

and everyone else take care too.

P.s.: For other articles about spirituality and belief systems, I will

try to compile something during the weekend as I am just back after a

one day hectic trip. In any case, thanks to everyone.

Aum Namo Narayana

Kind regards and best wishes from

Ron Bach

humbleshishya (AT) netscape (DOT) net wrote:

Aum Namo Bhagvate Hrishikeshayaa

Pranaams Srinivas:

While your query is not addressed to me, I have already saved your

chart in my computer. I was planning to post about your chart this

evening, however, I was tied up and unfornutately; tomorrow morning I

am going abroad for a short business meeting [one or two days].

If you can wait, I will answer some things in your chart and query upon

my return. Sorry, it is well past midnight here [Hong Kong] and I must

crash to bed now.

One thing I can telll you before I go is that those born with EITHER

Kala Sarpa Yoga or Kala Amrita Yoga have been reborn [that is come here

in this life] on a SPECIAL purpose.

With this in mind, it should be noted that those with either Kala

Sarapa Yoga or Kala Amrita Yoga [you can call that dosha as well if you

like] MUST consider either Rahu [KSY] or Ketu [KAY] as their ATMA

KARAKA *instead* of their original Atma Karaka until the natural

maturity of Rahu/Ketu.

Upon the natural maturity of either Rahu or Ketu, the original Atma

Karaka THEN takes over. Meaning from 0 to 41/42 your Atma Karaka should

be considered as Rahu and it is debilitated in Sagittarius. So this

[now] gives an entirely different perspective to your chart and its

issues.

P.s.: You can consult with any Guruji(s) or Gurudeva and verify about

what I have written above. Meaning that those with KSY and KAY should

consider Rahu or Ketu as their Atmakaraka until the NATURAL maturity of

Rahu or Ketu.

For more detailed explanations about your chart or rather your query

and where to get help with Pooja etc., I hope that you can wait for two

days or someone at this list will kindly help you out in the meantime.

With that, please convey my best regards to all your loved ones ever

and you take care too.

Aum Namo Nayaraya

Kind regards and best wishes from

Ron Bach

csrlc7 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com wrote:

Respected Ramani Alwar & other learned

members,

Would awaiting for ur valuable suggestion

regarding my case for Kal sarf Dosh.

Thanks & best regards

Srinivas rao

..

-

Srinivas Rao

; aramani_1969

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 10:14 AM

Re: Kala sarpa dosha/yoga

Respected Ramani Alwar,

Have pasted my Horoscope.

Thanks & best regards

Srinivas rao

-

Ramani Alwar

Monday, September 15, 2003 18:48 PM

Re: Kala sarpa dosha/yoga

Hello

Could you please send your horoscope details in teh text but not as

attachement for analysis.

Yours sincerely

A. Ramani.

Srinivas

Natal Chart

April 28, 1973

Time: 12:05:00

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 81 E 48' 00", 17 N 00' 00"

RAJAHMUNDRY, INDIA

Altitude: 0.00 meters

Lunar Yr-Mo: Pramadi - Chaitra

Tithi: Krishna Dasami (Mo) (4.67% left)

Vedic Weekday: Saturday (Sa)

Nakshatra: Satabhisham (Ra) (45.80% left)

Yoga: Brahma (Ma)

Karana: Vishti (Sa)

Hora Lord: Moon (5 min sign: Sg)

Mahakala Hora: Moon (5 min sign: Le)

Kaala Lord: Mars (Mahakala: Mars)

Sunrise: 5:41:54

Sunset: 18:19:12

Janma Ghatis: 15.9623

Ayanamsa: 23-23-15.43

Sidereal Time: 2:26:35

Body Longitude Nakshatra

Pada

Rasi Navamsa

Lagna 16 Cn 26' 32.53" Push

4

Cn Sc

Sun - PK 14 Ar 27' 11.27" Bhar 1 Ar Le

Moon - GK 13 Aq 53' 34.92" Sata 3 Aq Aq

Mars - AK 29 Cp 37' 07.21" Dhan 2 Cp Vi

Mercury - BK 23 Pi 00' 09.49" Reva 2 Pi Cp

Jupiter - PiK 17 Cp 06' 18.06" Srav 3 Cp Ge

Venus - MK 19 Ar 15' 44.41" Bhar 2 Ar Vi

Saturn - AmK 24 Ta 47' 39.21" Mrig 1 Ta Le

Rahu - DK 16 Sg 24' 15.32" PSha 1 Sg Le

Ketu 16 Ge 24' 15.32" Ardr 3 Ge Aq

Maandi 13 Ar 55' 41.91" Bhar 1 Ar Le

Gulika 27 Ar 11' 28.77" Krit 1 Ar Sg

Bhava Lagna 19 Cn 58' 05.63" Asre 1 Cn Sg

Hora Lagna 25 Li 44' 31.08" Visa 2 Li Ta

Ghati Lagna 13 Le 03' 47.42" Makh 4 Le Cn

Vighati Lagna 9 Le 40' 09.14" Makh 3 Le Ge

Varnada Lagna 12 Aq 11' 03.61" Sata 2 Aq Cp

Sree Lagna 1 Aq 33' 15.30" Dhan 3 Aq Li

Dhooma 27 Le 47' 11.27" UPha 1 Le Sg

Vyatipata 21 Li 07' 11.27" Visa 1 Li Ar

Parivesha 21 Ar 07' 11.27" Bhar 3 Ar Li

Indra Chapa 27 Aq 47' 11.27" PBha 3 Aq Ge

Upaketu 14 Pi 27' 11.27" UBha 4 Pi Sc

Kaala 13 Ge 29' 16.84" Ardr 3 Ge Aq

Mrityu 26 Cn 15' 58.56" Asre 3 Cn Aq

Artha Prahara 18 Le 30' 46.09" PPha 2 Le Vi

Yama Ghantaka 29 Le 52' 13.12" UPha 1 Le Sg

Planet Chara Karakatwa Meaning

Sun PK Son (follower)

Moon GK Cousin (rival)

Mars AK Self

Mercury BK Brother (associate)

Jupiter PiK Father (authority)

Venus MK Mother (nourisher)

Saturn AmK Minister (advisor)

Rahu DK Spouse (partner)

Ashtakavarga of Rasi Chart:

Ar Ta Ge Cn Le Vi Li Sc Sg Cp

Aq Pi

As 5 4 5 5* 3 3 4 4 4 5 3 4

Su 4* 5 3 4 3 4 4 6 5 4 4 2

Mo 3 3 4 5 3 4 7 4 4 4 5* 3

Ma 3 3 2 4 4 3 2 4 4 4* 4 2

Me 3 5 3 5 7 3 2 6 7 3 6 4*

Ju 6 3 3 6 6 2 6 5 5 6* 4 4

Ve 3* 5 3 4 5 5 3 6 4 4 5 5

Sa 3 4* 2 4 1 3 5 4 5 2 3 3

Sodhya Pinda Rasi Pinda Graha Pinda

As 128 63 65

Su 84 62 22

Mo 90 67 23

Ma 98 70 28

Me 198 168 30

Ju 167 73 94

Ve 105 85 20

Sa 143 104 39

Planet Shadbala In rupas % Strength

IshtaPhala

KashtaPhala

Sun 679.22 11.32 226.41

49.86

5.10

Moon 470.57 7.84 130.71 26.06 32.40

Mars 315.20 5.25 105.07 42.40 4.01

Mercury 340.83 5.68 81.15 11.24 26.89

Jupiter 369.05 6.15 94.63 10.88 41.42

Venus 403.73 6.73 122.34 15.59 20.27

Saturn 315.11 5.25 105.04 13.00 46.90

Rasi

+--------------+

| \ / \ / |

| \ GL / \ Ke / |

| \ / \ / |

|AL x As x Sa |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ 4 / Ve \ |

| / \ / \ |

| HL x Gk Su |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / \ Md / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / Ju \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| x Ma x Me |

| / \ / \ |

| / Ra \ / Mo \ |

| / \ / \ |

+--------------+

Navamsa

+--------------+

| \ / \ / |

| \ Gk / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

|Me x As x Ve Ma |

| / \ / \ |

| / Ke \ 8 / Sa \ |

| / \ / \ |

| Mo x Md Su |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / \ Ra / |

| \ / \ / |

| x HL x AL GL |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ / Ju \ |

| / \ / \ |

+--------------+

Hora D-2 (P)

+--------------+

| \ GL / \ / |

| \ Mo / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / Ma \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| x As x Ke Ra |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ Ju / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ 8 / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| x |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / HL \ / |

| \ / \ / |

|Me x Ve x AL Sa |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ Gk / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / Su \ / \ |

| / Md \ / \ |

+--------------+

Drekkana D-3

+--------------+

| \ Gk / \ / |

| \ GL / \ Ke / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / Me \ / |

| \ / \ / |

|Sa x As x AL Ma |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ 8 / Ve \ |

| / \ / \ |

| x Su |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / \ Md / |

| \ / \ / |

| x Ju x |

| / \ / \ |

| / Ra \ / Mo \ |

| / \ / HL \ |

+--------------+

Chaturthamsa D-4

+--------------+

| \ / \ Ke / |

| \ Sa / \ Me / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / Gk \ / |

| \ / \ / |

|AL x As x GL |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ 10 / Ve \ |

| / \ / \ |

| x Ma |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / Ju \ / |

| \ / \ / |

|Mo x Md Su x |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ HL / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / Ra \ / \ |

| / \ / \ |

+--------------+

Panchamsa D-5

+--------------+

| \ / \ / |

| \ / Ju \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| x As x Me |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ 12 / Mo \ |

| / \ / Md \ |

| Ve x Ke Su GL |

| \ / \ AL / |

| \ / \ Ra / |

| \ / \ / |

| x x Sa Ma |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ / HL \ |

| / \ / Gk \ |

+--------------+

Shashthamsa D-6

+--------------+

| \ Sa / \ / |

| \ Me / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / Ju \ / |

| \ / \ / |

|Ma AL x As x |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ 10 / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| x |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / Ra \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| x Ve x Gk HL |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ Ke / \ |

| / Md \ / \ |

| / Su \ / \ |

| / Mo GL \ / \ |

+--------------+

Saptamsa D-7

+--------------+

| \ / \ / |

| \ Mo / \ Ra / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / Sa \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| x As x Me |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ HL / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / Md \ 1 / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| Su x Ma |

| \ / \ / |

| \ AL / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / Gk \ / |

| \ / \ / |

|Ve x Ju x |

| / \ / \ |

| / Ke \ / GL \ |

| / \ / \ |

+--------------+

Ashtamsa D-8

+--------------+

| \ / \ Md / |

| \ Ve / \ Su / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / Ju \ / |

| \ / \ / |

|HL x As x AL Sa |

| / \ / \ |

| / Gk \ 5 / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| Ma x |

| \ / \ / |

|Ra Ke x Me x |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ / Mo \ |

| / \ / GL \ |

+--------------+

Dasamsa D-10

+--------------+

| \ / \ / |

| \ Sa / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / Su \ / |

| \ / \ / Me |

|Ve x As x Ma Mo |

| / \ / \ HL |

| / \ Md / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ 5 / AL \ |

| / \ / \ |

| Ke x Ra |

| \ / \ / |

|GL x Ju x |

| / \ / \ |

| / Gk \ / \ |

| / \ / \ |

+--------------+

Rudramsa D-11

+--------------+

| \ / \ / |

| \ / \ Ke / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / HL \ / |

| \ / \ / |

|Ma x As x Md Su |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ 9 / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| GL x AL |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / Ju \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| x Me x Ve Mo |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ Gk / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / Ra \ / Sa \ |

| / \ / \ |

+--------------+

Dwadasamsa D-12

+--------------+

| \ Gk / \ Me Ke / |

| \ Sa / \ Ma / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / GL \ / |

| \ / \ / |

|AL x As x Ve |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ 10 / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| x |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / Ju \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| x Mo x Md Su |

| / \ / \ |

| / Ra \ / HL \ |

| / \ / \ |

+--------------+

Shodasamsa D-16

+--------------+

| \ / \ Md / |

| \ Ju / \ Su / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / Me \ / |

|AL \ / \ / |

|Ve GL x As x |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ 9 / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| Mo x Sa |

| \ / \ / |

| x Gk x Ke Ra |

| / \ / \ |

| / HL \ / Ma \ |

| / \ / \ |

+--------------+

Vimsamsa D-20

+--------------+

| \ / \ Md / |

| \ Ju / \ Su / |

| \ / \ / |

|Ve Sa x As x |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ 11 / Me \ |

| / \ / \ |

| x Ma |

| \ / \ / |

|AL \ / \ / |

|Ra Ke x GL x Gk |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ / Mo \ |

| / \ / HL \ |

+--------------+

Siddhamsa D-24

+--------------+

| \ Ke / \ Mo Md / |

| \ Ra / \ Su / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / Ju \ / |

| \ / \ / AL |

| x As x GL Ma |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ 5 / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| Ve x Gk |

| \ / \ / |

| x Sa x HL |

| / \ / \ |

| / Me \ / \ |

| / \ / \ |

+--------------+

Nakshatramsa D-27

+--------------+

| \ Gk / \ / |

| \ Md / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / GL \ / |

|AL \ / \ / |

|Su Sa x As x |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ 12 / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| Ra x Ke |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / Me \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| x HL Ma x |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ Ve / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ / Mo \ |

| / \ / Ju \ |

+--------------+

Trimsamsa D-30 (P)

+--------------+

| \ Ju / \ / |

| \ Ma / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| x As x |

| / \ / \ |

| / HL \ 11 / AL \ |

| / \ / \ |

| Md Mo x Ve |

| \ / \ / |

| \ GL / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / Ke \ / |

| \ / \ / |

|Su x Ra x Sa |

| / \ / \ |

| / Gk \ / Me \ |

| / \ / \ |

+--------------+

Khavedamsa D-40

+--------------+

| \ / \ / |

| \ Ju / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / Sa \ / |

| \ / \ / |

|GL x As x Ve |

| / \ / \ |

| / Md \ 4 / Gk \ |

| / \ / \ |

| Mo x Me |

| \ / \ / |

| \ AL / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / Ra \ / |

| \ / \ / |

|Su x Ma x |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ Ke / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ / HL \ |

| / \ / \ |

+--------------+

Akshavedamsa D-45

+--------------+

| \ / \ / |

| \ Ju / \ GL / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / Mo \ / |

| \ / \ / |

|HL x As x |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ 1 / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| x Su |

| \ / \ / |

|AL \ / \ / Ke |

|Ve Gk x Me x Ra Ma |

| / \ / \ Md |

| / \ / \ |

| / Sa \ / \ |

| / \ / \ |

+--------------+

Shashtyamsa D-60

+--------------+

| \ / \ / |

| \ / \ Ke / |

| \ / \ / |

|Mo x As x HL Me |

| / \ / \ |

| / Sa \ 12 / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| Ve x Ma |

| \ / \ / |

|Md AL x x Ju |

| / \ / \ |

| / Su \ / GL \ |

| / Ra \ / Gk \ |

+--------------+

Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):

Rah Rah 1963-09-16 Jup 1966-05-15 Sat

1968-09-25

Merc 1971-07-18 Ket 1974-01-21 Ven 1975-02-03

Sun 1978-01-18 Moon 1978-12-08 Mars 1980-05-31

Jup Jup 1981-06-13 Sat 1983-07-21 Merc 1986-01-18

Ket 1988-04-13 Ven 1989-03-15 Sun 1991-10-31

Moon 1992-08-14 Mars 1993-12-07 Rah 1994-11-08

Sat Sat 1997-03-21 Merc 2000-03-08 Ket 2002-11-02

Ven 2003-12-06 Sun 2007-01-19 Moon 2007-12-27

Mars 2009-07-19 Rah 2010-08-22 Jup 2013-06-13

Merc Merc 2015-12-12 Ket 2018-04-27 Ven 2019-04-19

Sun 2022-02-02 Moon 2022-12-05 Mars 2024-04-28

Rah 2025-04-20 Jup 2027-10-25 Sat 2030-01-18

Ket Ket 2032-09-13 Ven 2033-02-07 Sun 2034-04-03

Moon 2034-08-07 Mars 2035-03-05 Rah 2035-07-30

Jup 2036-08-11 Sat 2037-07-13 Merc 2038-08-16

Ven Ven 2039-08-08 Sun 2042-11-20 Moon 2043-11-15

Mars 2045-07-07 Rah 2046-08-31 Jup 2049-08-15

Sat 2052-04-01 Merc 2055-05-16 Ket 2058-03-01

Sun Sun 2059-04-25 Moon 2059-08-11 Mars 2060-02-07

Rah 2060-06-12 Jup 2061-05-02 Sat 2062-02-14

Merc 2063-01-22 Ket 2063-11-24 Ven 2064-03-29

Moon Moon 2065-03-24 Mars 2066-01-18 Rah 2066-08-16

Jup 2068-02-07 Sat 2069-06-01 Merc 2070-12-23

Ket 2072-05-16 Ven 2072-12-12 Sun 2074-08-04

Mars Mars 2075-01-31 Rah 2075-06-27 Jup 2076-07-09

Sat 2077-06-10 Merc 2078-07-14 Ket 2079-07-06

Ven 2079-11-30 Sun 2081-01-23 Moon 2081-05-29

Ashtottari Dasa (controversial nakshatra

dasa):

Jup Rah 1963-09-12 Ven 1965-10-11 Sun

1969-06-02

Moon 1970-06-17 Mars 1973-01-22 Merc 1974-06-13

Sat 1977-05-25 Jup 1979-02-17

Rah Ven 1982-06-04 Sun 1984-09-21 Moon 1985-05-19

Mars 1987-01-09 Merc 1987-11-25 Sat 1989-10-05

Jup 1990-11-09 Rah 1992-12-08

Ven Sun 1994-04-02 Moon 1995-05-27 Mars 1998-04-11

Merc 1999-10-23 Sat 2003-01-25 Jup 2004-12-25

Rah 2008-08-16 Ven 2010-12-04

Sun Moon 2014-12-13 Mars 2015-10-09 Merc 2016-03-17

Sat 2017-02-20 Jup 2017-09-08 Rah 2018-09-23

Ven 2019-05-21 Sun 2020-07-14

Moon Mars 2020-11-11 Merc 2021-12-16 Sat 2024-04-14

Jup 2025-08-27 Rah 2028-04-03 Ven 2029-11-24

Sun 2032-10-09 Moon 2033-08-05

Mars Merc 2035-08-25 Sat 2036-11-21 Jup 2037-08-14

Rah 2039-01-03 Ven 2039-11-19 Sun 2041-06-01

Moon 2041-11-08 Mars 2042-12-13

Merc Sat 2043-07-14 Jup 2045-01-31 Rah 2048-01-13

Ven 2049-11-23 Sun 2053-02-25 Moon 2054-01-31

Mars 2056-05-30 Merc 2057-08-26

Sat Jup 2060-04-15 Rah 2062-01-09 Ven 2063-02-13

Sun 2065-01-13 Moon 2065-08-01 Mars 2066-12-14

Merc 2067-09-06 Sat 2069-03-26

Kalachakra Dasa (Apasavya group, Paramayush =

88 years):

Cn Cn 1973-01-20 Vi 1977-12-29 Li

1980-02-10

Sc 1983-11-16 Pi 1985-07-09 Aq 1987-11-15

Cp 1988-10-24 Sg 1989-10-03 Sc 1992-02-09

Vi Vi 1993-10-02 Li 1994-09-18 Sc 1996-06-04

Pi 1997-03-04 Aq 1998-03-29 Cp 1998-09-02

Sg 1999-02-05 Sc 2000-03-01 Li 2000-11-29

Li Li 2002-08-16 Sc 2005-08-30 Pi 2006-12-29

Aq 2008-11-22 Cp 2009-08-27 Sg 2010-05-31

Sc 2012-04-24 Li 2013-08-23 Vi 2016-09-06

Sc Sc 2018-05-24 Pi 2019-01-24 Aq 2020-01-09

Cp 2020-05-28 Sg 2020-10-15 Sc 2021-09-30

Li 2022-06-02 Vi 2023-12-14 Le 2024-10-24

Pi Pi 2025-04-17 Aq 2026-06-10 Cp 2026-11-24

Sg 2027-05-10 Sc 2028-07-02 Li 2029-04-21

Vi 2031-02-20 Le 2032-03-03 Cn 2032-09-28

Aq Aq 2035-02-24 Cp 2035-05-03 Sg 2035-07-09

Sc 2035-12-26 Li 2036-04-22 Vi 2037-01-19

Le 2037-06-20 Cn 2037-09-13 Ge 2038-09-03

Cp Cp 2039-02-03 Sg 2039-04-03 Sc 2039-08-30

Li 2039-12-12 Vi 2040-08-05 Le 2040-12-17

Cn 2041-03-01 Ge 2042-01-07 Ta 2042-05-20

Sg Sg 2043-01-13 Sc 2044-01-08 Li 2044-09-16

Vi 2046-04-15 Le 2047-03-05 Cn 2047-09-01

Ge 2049-09-26 Ta 2050-08-16 Ar 2052-03-14

Sc Sc 2052-11-21 Li 2053-05-16 Vi 2054-06-24

Le 2055-02-05 Cn 2055-06-11 Ge 2056-11-22

Ta 2057-07-06 Ar 2058-08-14 Sg 2059-02-06

Narayana Dasa of D-1 chart (a versatile

phalita

rasi dasa):

Cp Ta 1973-04-28 Ar 1973-12-24 Pi

1974-08-21

Aq 1975-04-18 Cp 1975-12-14 Sg 1976-08-10

Sc 1977-04-07 Li 1977-12-03 Vi 1978-07-31

Le 1979-03-28 Cn 1979-11-23 Ge 1980-07-20

Sg Pi 1981-03-17 Ar 1981-03-17 Ta 1981-03-17

Ge 1981-03-17 Cn 1981-03-17 Le 1981-03-17

Vi 1981-03-17 Li 1981-03-17 Sc 1981-03-17

Sg 1981-03-17 Cp 1981-03-17 Aq 1981-03-17

Sc Ar 1981-03-17 Ta 1981-06-15 Ge 1981-09-13

Cn 1981-12-12 Le 1982-03-12 Vi 1982-06-10

Li 1982-09-08 Sc 1982-12-07 Sg 1983-03-07

Cp 1983-06-05 Aq 1983-09-03 Pi 1983-12-02

Li Cp 1984-03-01 Sg 1984-08-28 Sc 1985-02-24

Li 1985-08-23 Vi 1986-02-19 Le 1986-08-18

Cn 1987-02-14 Ge 1987-08-13 Ta 1988-02-09

Ar 1988-08-07 Pi 1989-02-03 Aq 1989-08-02

Vi Cp 1990-01-29 Sg 1990-06-28 Sc 1990-11-25

Li 1991-04-24 Vi 1991-09-21 Le 1992-02-18

Cn 1992-07-17 Ge 1992-12-14 Ta 1993-05-13

Ar 1993-10-10 Pi 1994-03-09 Aq 1994-08-06

Le Ta 1995-01-03 Ar 1995-06-02 Pi 1995-10-30

Aq 1996-03-28 Cp 1996-08-25 Sg 1997-01-22

Sc 1997-06-21 Li 1997-11-18 Vi 1998-04-17

Le 1998-09-14 Cn 1999-02-11 Ge 1999-07-11

Cn Ta 1999-12-08 Ar 2000-05-06 Pi 2000-10-03

Aq 2001-03-02 Cp 2001-07-30 Sg 2001-12-27

Sc 2002-05-26 Li 2002-10-23 Vi 2003-03-22

Le 2003-08-19 Cn 2004-01-16 Ge 2004-06-14

Ge Pi 2004-11-11 Ar 2005-07-09 Ta 2006-03-06

Ge 2006-11-01 Cn 2007-06-29 Le 2008-02-24

Vi 2008-10-21 Li 2009-06-18 Sc 2010-02-13

Sg 2010-10-11 Cp 2011-06-08 Aq 2012-02-03

Ta Ar 2012-09-30 Ta 2013-08-26 Ge 2014-07-22

Cn 2015-06-17 Le 2016-05-12 Vi 2017-04-07

Li 2018-03-03 Sc 2019-01-27 Sg 2019-12-23

Cp 2020-11-17 Aq 2021-10-13 Pi 2022-09-08

Ar Cp 2023-08-04 Sg 2024-05-30 Sc 2025-03-26

Li 2026-01-20 Vi 2026-11-16 Le 2027-09-12

Cn 2028-07-08 Ge 2029-05-04 Ta 2030-02-28

Ar 2030-12-25 Pi 2031-10-21 Aq 2032-08-16

Pi Cp 2033-06-12 Sg 2033-07-12 Sc 2033-08-11

Li 2033-09-10 Vi 2033-10-10 Le 2033-11-09

Cn 2033-12-09 Ge 2034-01-08 Ta 2034-02-07

Ar 2034-03-09 Pi 2034-04-08 Aq 2034-05-08

Aq Ta 2034-06-07 Ar 2035-03-04 Pi 2035-11-29

Aq 2036-08-25 Cp 2037-05-22 Sg 2038-02-16

Sc 2038-11-13 Li 2039-08-10 Vi 2040-05-06

Le 2041-01-31 Cn 2041-10-28 Ge 2042-07-25

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Ramani Alwar

Monday, September 15, 2003 18:48 PM

Re: Kala sarpa dosha/yoga

Hello

Could you please send your horoscope details in teh text but not as

attachement for analysis.

Yours sincerely

A. Ramani.

Srinivas Rao <csrlc7 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>

wrote:

To,

Respected RamaniAlwar & R singh.

Attaching here with chart of myself as the self is facing difficulties

from childwood that means at the age of 15 years

this is cause due do Ksy as the my planetary positions all are between

in rahu in 6th house to ketu in 12th house.

Still now I thought exalted Mars in 7th house breaks the ksy and I had

not done any remedy for the same.

Should I have do the remedy Please assist me.Service in Gujarat is

there any place in Gujarat for remedy.

Awaiting for solution.

dob:28.04.1973 time 12.05 day and place is Rajahmundry (A.p.)

Thanks & best regards

Srinivas rao

< Remaining message truncated >

September 22, 2003

Hare Ram Krishna,

To,

Respected Ron Bach,Ramesh & other learned members,

Thanks for ur kind suggestion & all which is mention by Ron Bach is true to my self,

major difficulties is related to 7th house issues.

Yes,it is true in my case of ksy the knowledge which is imparted to Ron Bach

from his Guruji as given below msg of Ron Bach

is very true that my Rahu has gone In Fiery sign & I am lucky enough has

mentioned the desires is fulfilled in ease and very true that the ksy indicates

a special desires in life as mentioned.

I myself will be to the nativity in the month of november and the nearby place

where Vijayawada(Bazawada) Andhra Pradesh

a very famous temple of Mata Kanaka Durga Devi.Perhaps the pooja would be there

I asked my releatives to

arrange for Pooja.

I am lucky enough in coming Navaratri which is very useful to me doing pooja's etc.

For Mantra as refrained I will take the others help.

Apart from this article of Jay Wess is true that inspite of my doing hard work

the fruits for the

same is not gettting.

Ric: Mr.Ron Bach,If any problem would be there of children born of ksy natal chart.

If so I would like to provide the natal chart of my children a boy & a baby girl.

I would like to have word of ur suggestion as the children should not get not in the problem.

Apart from this my debilation planets is causing problems I will take care.

Once again thanks a lot of all of u.

Thanks & best regards

Srinivas rao

-

Ron Bach

Friday, September 19, 2003 13:47 PM

Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Kala Sarpa Dosha/Yoga

Aum Namo Bhagvate Hrishikeshayaa Pranaams Srinivas and Ramesh: For some

reasons, I am unable to reply to the post of Ramesh [perhaps because it was

addressed to other lists as well where I am not d as a member]. In any

case, thanks Ramesh for attaching Jay's beautiful article. Let me elaborate on

what I wrote the other day [attached below]...As I mentioned, Jatakas who have

Kala Sarpa Yoga, Kala Amrita Yoga, or Graha Malika Yoga have a special purpose

or desire; which has resulted in this birth. Meaning that the focus of life in

this birth is on/for that special desire. Now, what the focus is, is judged by

where Rahu or Ketu [or respective for Graha Malika Yoga] is placed. Also, it is

important to note that in such yogas, the respective; take over as the Atma

Karaka instead of the original Atma Karaka. Therefore Rahu takes on the role of

Atma Karaka for Kala Sarpa Yoga, and Ketu takes on the role of Atma Karaka for

Kala Amrita Yoga [similarly see the respective for Graha Malika Yoga]. Before

there are any doubts, Shishyas should refrain from pondering that Ketu is not

included in Chara Karaka scheme, and in that case, why are we considering Ketu

as Atma Karaka? Refrain, because this debate and discussion is best carried out

with one's Guru Ji under proper guidance. I will avoid such questions in this

thread, even if posed to me, as I am not a Guru.Having said that, it is obvious

that for Kala Sarpa Yoga, Rahu will be the Atma Karaka until the age 41/42 and

for Kala Amrita Yoga, Ketu will be the Atma Karaka until the age of 44/45

[similarly judge the relative with Graha Malika Yoga]. To see what the special

desire or purpose was, first find out where Rahu or Ketu or respective has

gone. In Srinivas's chart, Rahu has gone to Sagittarius, where it is

debilitated. Sagittarius is a fiery sign. Fiery signs are Satya Yuga Rasi [with

watery signs = Treta Yuga, airy signs = Dwapara Yuga, and earthy signs = Kali

Yuga]. The fulfillment and achievement of the special desire indicated in the

chart will depend upon the above [i.e. the placement of respective in either a

fiery, watery, airy, or earthy sign].In short, for fiery signs, the purpose of

birth will be fulfilled with some ease, for watery signs, the purpose of birth

is complicated but will be fulfilled through human relationships, for airy

signs, the purpose of birth starts becoming difficult and association with

Guru, knowledgeable people or literate minds becomes necessary. And finally,

for earthy signs, the purpose of birth is extremely difficult and requires that

the Jataka works from scratch. Aum Namo Bhagvate Hrishikeshayaa, I bow down at

the lotus feet of my Gurudeva for imparting this knowledge to me which I now

present at this list. Therefore Srinivas, you should consider yourself lucky

[if anything because Rahu has gone to your fiery sign]. Now further to this, we

must also look at where the dispositor [of Sagittarius] has gone. Dispositor is

Jupiter and it has gone in 7th house [Capricorn]. This will tell us the purpose

or rather the special desire for birth. Jupiter is debilitated in capricorn and

is with Mars [your original Atma Karaka]. While Jupiter is benefic, it is

debilitated and debilitated planets/grahas make planets/grahas conjoining them

weak as well.In any way, your chart shows a strong focus on your 7th house. So

major difficulties will be mostly related to 7th house issues [all its

significations]. Your 7th house [from Lagna] happens to be 5th house as seen

from Arudha Lagna, 4th house as seen from Hora Lagna, 1st house as seen from

Sri Lagna, 10th house as seen from Sun, and finally 12th house as seen from

Moon or your Lagna Lord [Paka Lagna]. Thus a competent Jyotish or a focused

shishya would judge the results based on all of above and still stick to

[first] Rasi before venturing into Drekkana [D-3], Navamsa [D-9], or Shastyamsa

[D-60; last and provided the chart was thoroughly rectified at least into

nearing seconds].Another striking thing about your chart is that many grahas

[planets] are in debilitation. i.e. Rahu, Ketu, Jupiter, and Mercury. Whereas

Sun is exalted and so is Mars [note that Mars is near enough to deep

exaltation].Whether or not the Kala Sarpa Yoga is broken, depends on who you

ask and there are disagreements amongst many. As far as I am concerned, if I

see such yogas, I do advise that the pooja be done [as there is never any

harm in a pooja :-) ].AL + A7 gives you the Srimantha Yoga [again issues

related to your 7th house as well] and UL is there as well, so I would consider

the placement of these Arudhas as another auspicious part of your chart. A5 or

the mantra pada has gone to 9th house, whereas the dispositor is [again

Jupiter] back in 7th house and debilitated. Therefore remedies [alongside the

pooja] would be mantras [that you can get from your Guruji or some

professionals]. As I have always maintained, I will refrain from giving any

mantras. Rahu is Durga personified and Mars is Chamundi. If possible, pray to

Mother [Durga in all her forms] in the upcoming Navaratri [Durga Pooja for 9

nights] and listen to her stories [Chandi Path] or read them yourself

[available in many religious book stores at a very reasonable cost in Sanskrit

or many languages]. Continuing Durga worship during or until the natural

maturity of Rahu will be helpful as you need mukti [liberation]. Observe fasts

on Wednesdays [the day of your Upa Pada = UL]. After the above remedies, things

should get much better. As far as your location, I am not sure where exactly you

are in Gujarat. However, I do remember there is a huge temple of Bhadra Kali in

Ahmedabad [near Lal Darwaja], where you could get help with the pooja. However,

it has been almost 20 years since I last visited India, so I am not sure about

right now. Please check with someone and try to be physically present in the

pooja. That way it would be much better. You are currently running your

Saturn/Ketu/Moon [Maha/Antar/Pratyantar Vimshottari] and you could *feel* quite

depressed. However, things will change for the better [soon]. Moon your lagna

lord is vargottama [in Aquarius in both Rasi and Navamsa], therefore the

strength and solutions to overcome problems will come from within [yourself].

With that, please convey my best to all your loved ones ever and you and

everyone else take care too. P.s.: For other articles about spirituality and

belief systems, I will try to compile something during the weekend as I am just

back after a one day hectic trip. In any case, thanks to everyone. Aum Namo

NarayanaKind regards and best wishes from Ron Bach humbleshishya (AT) netscape (DOT) net

wrote:

Aum Namo Bhagvate HrishikeshayaaPranaams Srinivas: While your query is not

addressed to me, I have already saved your chart in my computer. I was planning

to post about your chart this evening, however, I was tied up and unfornutately;

tomorrow morning I am going abroad for a short business meeting [one or two

days]. If you can wait, I will answer some things in your chart and query upon

my return. Sorry, it is well past midnight here [Hong Kong] and I must crash to

bed now. One thing I can telll you before I go is that those born with EITHER

Kala Sarpa Yoga or Kala Amrita Yoga have been reborn [that is come here in this

life] on a SPECIAL purpose. With this in mind, it should be noted that those

with either Kala Sarapa Yoga or Kala Amrita Yoga [you can call that dosha as

well if you like] MUST consider either Rahu [KSY] or Ketu [KAY] as their ATMA

KARAKA *instead* of their original Atma Karaka until the natural maturity of

Rahu/Ketu. Upon the natural maturity of either Rahu or Ketu, the original Atma

Karaka THEN takes over. Meaning from 0 to 41/42 your Atma Karaka should be

considered as Rahu and it is debilitated in Sagittarius. So this [now] gives

an entirely different perspective to your chart and its issues. P.s.: You can

consult with any Guruji(s) or Gurudeva and verify about what I have written

above. Meaning that those with KSY and KAY should consider Rahu or Ketu as

their Atmakaraka until the NATURAL maturity of Rahu or Ketu.For more detailed

explanations about your chart or rather your query and where to get help with

Pooja etc., I hope that you can wait for two days or someone at this list will

kindly help you out in the meantime. With that, please convey my best regards to

all your loved ones ever and you take care too. Aum Namo NayarayaKind regards

and best wishes from Ron Bachcsrlc7 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com wrote:

Respected Ramani Alwar & other learned members,

Would awaiting for ur valuable suggestion

regarding my case for Kal sarf Dosh.

Thanks & best regards

Srinivas rao

..

-

Srinivas Rao

; aramani_1969

Tuesday, September 16, 2003 10:14 AM

Re: Kala sarpa dosha/yoga

Respected Ramani Alwar,

Have pasted my Horoscope.

Thanks & best regards

Srinivas rao

-

Ramani Alwar

Monday, September 15, 2003 18:48 PM

Re: Kala sarpa dosha/yoga

Hello Could you please send your horoscope details in teh text but not as

attachement for analysis. Yours sincerelyA. Ramani.

Srinivas

Natal Chart

April 28, 1973Time: 12:05:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East

of GMT)Place: 81 E 48' 00", 17 N 00' 00" RAJAHMUNDRY,

INDIAAltitude: 0.00 meters

Lunar Yr-Mo: Pramadi - ChaitraTithi: Krishna Dasami (Mo) (4.67%

left)Vedic Weekday: Saturday (Sa)Nakshatra: Satabhisham (Ra) (45.80%

left)Yoga: Brahma (Ma)Karana: Vishti (Sa)Hora Lord: Moon (5

min sign: Sg)Mahakala Hora: Moon (5 min sign: Le)Kaala Lord: Mars (Mahakala:

Mars)

Sunrise: 5:41:54Sunset: 18:19:12Janma Ghatis: 15.9623

Ayanamsa: 23-23-15.43Sidereal Time: 2:26:35

Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa

Lagna 16 Cn 26' 32.53" Push 4 Cn ScSun - PK 14 Ar 27'

11.27" Bhar 1 Ar LeMoon - GK 13 Aq 53' 34.92" Sata 3 Aq

AqMars - AK 29 Cp 37' 07.21" Dhan 2 Cp ViMercury - BK 23 Pi

00' 09.49" Reva 2 Pi CpJupiter - PiK 17 Cp 06' 18.06" Srav 3

Cp GeVenus - MK 19 Ar 15' 44.41" Bhar 2 Ar ViSaturn - AmK 24

Ta 47' 39.21" Mrig 1 Ta LeRahu - DK 16 Sg 24' 15.32" PSha 1

Sg LeKetu 16 Ge 24' 15.32" Ardr 3 Ge AqMaandi

13 Ar 55' 41.91" Bhar 1 Ar LeGulika 27 Ar 11' 28.77" Krit

1 Ar SgBhava Lagna 19 Cn 58' 05.63" Asre 1 Cn SgHora Lagna

25 Li 44' 31.08" Visa 2 Li TaGhati Lagna 13 Le 03' 47.42" Makh

4 Le CnVighati Lagna 9 Le 40' 09.14" Makh 3 Le GeVarnada Lagna

12 Aq 11' 03.61" Sata 2 Aq CpSree Lagna 1 Aq 33' 15.30" Dhan

3 Aq LiDhooma 27 Le 47' 11.27" UPha 1 Le SgVyatipata

21 Li 07' 11.27" Visa 1 Li ArParivesha 21 Ar 07' 11.27" Bhar

3 Ar LiIndra Chapa 27 Aq 47' 11.27" PBha 3 Aq GeUpaketu

14 Pi 27' 11.27" UBha 4 Pi ScKaala 13 Ge 29' 16.84" Ardr

3 Ge AqMrityu 26 Cn 15' 58.56" Asre 3 Cn AqArtha Prahara

18 Le 30' 46.09" PPha 2 Le ViYama Ghantaka 29 Le 52' 13.12" UPha

1 Le Sg

Planet Chara Karakatwa Meaning

Sun PK Son (follower)Moon GK Cousin (rival)Mars

AK SelfMercury BK Brother (associate)Jupiter PiK

Father (authority)Venus MK Mother (nourisher)Saturn AmK

Minister (advisor)Rahu DK Spouse (partner)

Ashtakavarga of Rasi Chart:

Ar Ta Ge Cn Le Vi Li Sc Sg Cp Aq PiAs 5 4 5 5* 3 3

4 4 4 5 3 4 Su 4* 5 3 4 3 4 4 6 5 4 4 2 Mo 3

3 4 5 3 4 7 4 4 4 5* 3 Ma 3 3 2 4 4 3 2 4

4 4* 4 2 Me 3 5 3 5 7 3 2 6 7 3 6 4*Ju 6 3 3

6 6 2 6 5 5 6* 4 4 Ve 3* 5 3 4 5 5 3 6 4 4

5 5 Sa 3 4* 2 4 1 3 5 4 5 2 3 3

Sodhya Pinda Rasi Pinda Graha PindaAs 128 63

65Su 84 62 22Mo 90 67

23Ma 98 70 28Me 198 168

30Ju 167 73 94Ve 105 85

20Sa 143 104 39

Planet Shadbala In rupas % Strength IshtaPhala KashtaPhala

Sun 679.22 11.32 226.41 49.86 5.10Moon 470.57 7.84

130.71 26.06 32.40Mars 315.20 5.25 105.07 42.40

4.01Mercury 340.83 5.68 81.15 11.24 26.89Jupiter 369.05 6.15

94.63 10.88 41.42Venus 403.73 6.73 122.34 15.59

20.27Saturn 315.11 5.25 105.04 13.00 46.90

Rasi

+--------------+| \ / \

/ || \ GL / \ Ke / || \

/ \ / || \ / \ /

|| \ / \ / ||AL x As

x Sa || / \ / \ || /

\ / \ || / \ / \

|| / \ 4 / Ve \ || / \

/ \ || HL x Gk Su || \

/ \ / || \ / \ Md

/ || \ / \ / || \ /

Ju \ / || \ / \ / ||

x Ma x Me || / \ /

\ || / \ / \ || / \

/ \ || / Ra \ / Mo \ || /

\ / \

|+--------------+ Navamsa

+--------------+| \

/ \ / || \ Gk / \

/ || \ / \ / || \ /

\ / || \ / \ / ||Me

x As x Ve Ma || / \ / \

|| / \ / \ || / \

/ \ || / Ke \ 8 / Sa \ || /

\ / \ || Mo x Md Su

|| \ / \ / || \ /

\ Ra / || \ / \ / ||

\ / \ / || \ / \

/ || x HL x AL GL || / \

/ \ || / \ / \ ||

/ \ / \ || / \ /

Ju \ || / \ / \

|+--------------+ Hora

D-2 (P)+--------------+| \ GL

/ \ / || \ Mo / \

/ || \ / \ / || \ / Ma

\ / || \ / \ / ||

x As x Ke Ra || / \ / \

|| / \ Ju / \ || / \

/ \ || / \ 8 / \ || /

\ / \ || x

|| \ / \ / || \ /

\ / || \ / \ / ||

\ / HL \ / || \ / \

/ ||Me x Ve x AL Sa || / \

/ \ || / \ Gk / \ ||

/ \ / \ || / Su \ /

\ || / Md \ / \

|+--------------+ Drekkana

D-3+--------------+| \ Gk

/ \ / || \ GL / \ Ke

/ || \ / \ / || \ / Me

\ / || \ / \ / ||Sa

x As x AL Ma || / \ / \

|| / \ / \ || / \

/ \ || / \ 8 / Ve \ || /

\ / \ || x Su

|| \ / \ / || \ /

\ Md / || \ / \ / ||

\ / \ / || \ / \

/ || x Ju x || / \

/ \ || / \ / \ ||

/ \ / \ || / Ra \ /

Mo \ || / \ / HL \

|+--------------+ Chaturthamsa

D-4+--------------+| \

/ \ Ke / || \ Sa / \ Me

/ || \ / \ / || \ / Gk

\ / || \ / \ / ||AL

x As x GL || / \ / \

|| / \ / \ || / \

/ \ || / \ 10 / Ve \ || /

\ / \ || x Ma

|| \ / \ / || \ /

\ / || \ / \ / ||

\ / Ju \ / || \ / \

/ ||Mo x Md Su x || / \

/ \ || / \ HL / \ ||

/ \ / \ || / Ra \ /

\ || / \ / \

|+--------------+ Panchamsa

D-5+--------------+| \

/ \ / || \ / \

/ || \ / \ / || \ / Ju

\ / || \ / \ / ||

x As x Me || / \ / \

|| / \ / \ || / \

/ \ || / \ 12 / Mo \ || /

\ / Md \ || Ve x Ke Su

GL || \ / \ AL / || \ /

\ Ra / || \ / \ / ||

\ / \ / || \ / \

/ || x x Sa Ma || / \

/ \ || / \ / \ ||

/ \ / \ || / \ /

HL \ || / \ / Gk \

|+--------------+ Shashthamsa

D-6+--------------+| \ Sa

/ \ / || \ Me / \

/ || \ / \ / || \ / Ju

\ / || \ / \ / ||Ma AL

x As x || / \ / \

|| / \ / \ || / \

/ \ || / \ 10 / \ || /

\ / \ || x

|| \ / \ / || \ /

\ / || \ / \ / ||

\ / Ra \ / || \ / \

/ || x Ve x Gk HL || / \

/ \ || / \ Ke / \ ||

/ Md \ / \ || / Su \ /

\ || / Mo GL \ / \

|+--------------+ Saptamsa

D-7+--------------+| \

/ \ / || \ Mo / \ Ra

/ || \ / \ / || \ / Sa

\ / || \ / \ / ||

x As x Me || / \ / \

|| / \ HL / \ || / \

/ \ || / Md \ 1 / \ || /

\ / \ || Su x Ma

|| \ / \ / || \ AL /

\ / || \ / \ / ||

\ / Gk \ / || \ / \

/ ||Ve x Ju x || / \

/ \ || / \ / \ ||

/ \ / \ || / Ke \ /

GL \ || / \ / \

|+--------------+ Ashtamsa

D-8+--------------+| \

/ \ Md / || \ Ve / \ Su

/ || \ / \ / || \ / Ju

\ / || \ / \ / ||HL

x As x AL Sa || / \ / \

|| / \ / \ || / \

/ \ || / Gk \ 5 / \ || /

\ / \ || Ma x

|| \ / \ / || \ /

\ / || \ / \ / ||

\ / \ / || \ / \

/ ||Ra Ke x Me x || / \

/ \ || / \ / \ ||

/ \ / \ || / \ /

Mo \ || / \ / GL \

|+--------------+ Dasamsa

D-10+--------------+| \

/ \ / || \ Sa / \

/ || \ / \ / || \ / Su

\ / || \ / \ / Me ||Ve

x As x Ma Mo || / \ / \

HL || / \ Md / \ || / \

/ \ || / \ 5 / AL \ || /

\ / \ || Ke x Ra

|| \ / \ / || \ /

\ / || \ / \ / ||

\ / \ / || \ / \

/ ||GL x Ju x || / \

/ \ || / \ / \ ||

/ \ / \ || / Gk \ /

\ || / \ / \

|+--------------+ Rudramsa

D-11+--------------+| \

/ \ / || \ / \ Ke

/ || \ / \ / || \ / HL

\ / || \ / \ / ||Ma

x As x Md Su || / \ / \

|| / \ / \ || / \

/ \ || / \ 9 / \ || /

\ / \ || GL x AL

|| \ / \ / || \ /

\ / || \ / \ / ||

\ / Ju \ / || \ / \

/ || x Me x Ve Mo || / \

/ \ || / \ Gk / \ ||

/ \ / \ || / Ra \ /

Sa \ || / \ / \

|+--------------+ Dwadasamsa

D-12+--------------+| \ Gk

/ \ Me Ke / || \ Sa / \ Ma

/ || \ / \ / || \ / GL

\ / || \ / \ / ||AL

x As x Ve || / \ / \

|| / \ / \ || / \

/ \ || / \ 10 / \ || /

\ / \ || x

|| \ / \ / || \ /

\ / || \ / \ / ||

\ / Ju \ / || \ / \

/ || x Mo x Md Su || / \

/ \ || / \ / \ ||

/ \ / \ || / Ra \ /

HL \ || / \ / \

|+--------------+ Shodasamsa

D-16+--------------+| \

/ \ Md / || \ Ju / \ Su

/ || \ / \ / || \ / Me

\ / ||AL \ / \ / ||Ve GL

x As x || / \ / \

|| / \ / \ || / \

/ \ || / \ 9 / \ || /

\ / \ || Mo x Sa

|| \ / \ / || \ /

\ / || \ / \ / ||

\ / \ / || \ / \

/ || x Gk x Ke Ra || / \

/ \ || / \ / \ ||

/ \ / \ || / HL \ /

Ma \ || / \ / \

|+--------------+ Vimsamsa

D-20+--------------+| \

/ \ Md / || \ Ju / \ Su

/ || \ / \ / || \ /

\ / || \ / \ / ||Ve Sa

x As x || / \ / \

|| / \ / \ || / \

/ \ || / \ 11 / Me \ || /

\ / \ || x Ma

|| \ / \ / || \ /

\ / || \ / \ / ||

\ / \ / ||AL \ / \

/ ||Ra Ke x GL x Gk || / \

/ \ || / \ / \ ||

/ \ / \ || / \ /

Mo \ || / \ / HL \

|+--------------+ Siddhamsa

D-24+--------------+| \ Ke

/ \ Mo Md / || \ Ra / \ Su

/ || \ / \ / || \ / Ju

\ / || \ / \ / AL ||

x As x GL Ma || / \ / \

|| / \ / \ || / \

/ \ || / \ 5 / \ || /

\ / \ || Ve x Gk

|| \ / \ / || \ /

\ / || \ / \ / ||

\ / \ / || \ / \

/ || x Sa x HL || / \

/ \ || / \ / \ ||

/ \ / \ || / Me \ /

\ || / \ / \

|+--------------+ Nakshatramsa

D-27+--------------+| \ Gk

/ \ / || \ Md / \

/ || \ / \ / || \ / GL

\ / ||AL \ / \ / ||Su Sa

x As x || / \ / \

|| / \ / \ || / \

/ \ || / \ 12 / \ || /

\ / \ || Ra x Ke

|| \ / \ / || \ /

\ / || \ / \ / ||

\ / Me \ / || \ / \

/ || x HL Ma x || / \

/ \ || / \ Ve / \ ||

/ \ / \ || / \ /

Mo \ || / \ / Ju \

|+--------------+ Trimsamsa

D-30 (P)+--------------+| \ Ju

/ \ / || \ Ma / \

/ || \ / \ / || \ /

\ / || \ / \ / ||

x As x || / \ / \

|| / \ / \ || / \

/ \ || / HL \ 11 / AL \ || /

\ / \ || Md Mo x Ve

|| \ / \ / || \ GL /

\ / || \ / \ / ||

\ / Ke \ / || \ / \

/ ||Su x Ra x Sa || / \

/ \ || / \ / \ ||

/ \ / \ || / Gk \ /

Me \ || / \ / \

|+--------------+ Khavedamsa

D-40+--------------+| \

/ \ / || \ Ju / \

/ || \ / \ / || \ / Sa

\ / || \ / \ / ||GL

x As x Ve || / \ / \

|| / \ / \ || / \

/ \ || / Md \ 4 / Gk \ || /

\ / \ || Mo x Me

|| \ / \ / || \ AL /

\ / || \ / \ / ||

\ / Ra \ / || \ / \

/ ||Su x Ma x || / \

/ \ || / \ Ke / \ ||

/ \ / \ || / \ /

HL \ || / \ / \

|+--------------+ Akshavedamsa

D-45+--------------+| \

/ \ / || \ Ju / \ GL

/ || \ / \ / || \ / Mo

\ / || \ / \ / ||HL

x As x || / \ / \

|| / \ / \ || / \

/ \ || / \ 1 / \ || /

\ / \ || x Su

|| \ / \ / || \ /

\ / || \ / \ / ||

\ / \ / ||AL \ / \

/ Ke ||Ve Gk x Me x Ra Ma || / \

/ \ Md || / \ / \ ||

/ \ / \ || / Sa \ /

\ || / \ / \

|+--------------+ Shashtyamsa

D-60+--------------+| \

/ \ / || \ / \ Ke

/ || \ / \ / || \ /

\ / || \ / \ / ||Mo

x As x HL Me || / \ / \

|| / \ / \ || / \

/ \ || / Sa \ 12 / \ || /

\ / \ || Ve x Ma

|| \ / \ / || \ /

\ / || \ / \ / ||

\ / \ / || \ / \

/ ||Md AL x x Ju || / \

/ \ || / \ / \ ||

/ \ / \ || / Su \ /

GL \ || / Ra \ / Gk \

|+--------------+ Vimsottari Dasa (started

from Moon):

Rah Rah 1963-09-16 Jup 1966-05-15 Sat 1968-09-25 Merc 1971-07-18 Ket

1974-01-21 Ven 1975-02-03 Sun 1978-01-18 Moon 1978-12-08 Mars

1980-05-31 Jup Jup 1981-06-13 Sat 1983-07-21 Merc 1986-01-18 Ket

1988-04-13 Ven 1989-03-15 Sun 1991-10-31 Moon 1992-08-14 Mars

1993-12-07 Rah 1994-11-08 Sat Sat 1997-03-21 Merc 2000-03-08 Ket

2002-11-02 Ven 2003-12-06 Sun 2007-01-19 Moon 2007-12-27 Mars

2009-07-19 Rah 2010-08-22 Jup 2013-06-13 Merc Merc 2015-12-12 Ket

2018-04-27 Ven 2019-04-19 Sun 2022-02-02 Moon 2022-12-05 Mars

2024-04-28 Rah 2025-04-20 Jup 2027-10-25 Sat 2030-01-18 Ket Ket

2032-09-13 Ven 2033-02-07 Sun 2034-04-03 Moon 2034-08-07 Mars

2035-03-05 Rah 2035-07-30 Jup 2036-08-11 Sat 2037-07-13 Merc

2038-08-16 Ven Ven 2039-08-08 Sun 2042-11-20 Moon 2043-11-15 Mars

2045-07-07 Rah 2046-08-31 Jup 2049-08-15 Sat 2052-04-01 Merc

2055-05-16 Ket 2058-03-01 Sun Sun 2059-04-25 Moon 2059-08-11 Mars

2060-02-07 Rah 2060-06-12 Jup 2061-05-02 Sat 2062-02-14 Merc

2063-01-22 Ket 2063-11-24 Ven 2064-03-29 Moon Moon 2065-03-24 Mars

2066-01-18 Rah 2066-08-16 Jup 2068-02-07 Sat 2069-06-01 Merc

2070-12-23 Ket 2072-05-16 Ven 2072-12-12 Sun 2074-08-04 Mars Mars

2075-01-31 Rah 2075-06-27 Jup 2076-07-09 Sat 2077-06-10 Merc

2078-07-14 Ket 2079-07-06 Ven 2079-11-30 Sun 2081-01-23 Moon

2081-05-29

Ashtottari Dasa (controversial nakshatra dasa):

Jup Rah 1963-09-12 Ven 1965-10-11 Sun 1969-06-02 Moon 1970-06-17 Mars

1973-01-22 Merc 1974-06-13 Sat 1977-05-25 Jup 1979-02-17 Rah Ven

1982-06-04 Sun 1984-09-21 Moon 1985-05-19 Mars 1987-01-09 Merc

1987-11-25 Sat 1989-10-05 Jup 1990-11-09 Rah 1992-12-08 Ven Sun

1994-04-02 Moon 1995-05-27 Mars 1998-04-11 Merc 1999-10-23 Sat

2003-01-25 Jup 2004-12-25 Rah 2008-08-16 Ven 2010-12-04 Sun Moon

2014-12-13 Mars 2015-10-09 Merc 2016-03-17 Sat 2017-02-20 Jup

2017-09-08 Rah 2018-09-23 Ven 2019-05-21 Sun 2020-07-14 Moon Mars

2020-11-11 Merc 2021-12-16 Sat 2024-04-14 Jup 2025-08-27 Rah

2028-04-03 Ven 2029-11-24 Sun 2032-10-09 Moon 2033-08-05 Mars Merc

2035-08-25 Sat 2036-11-21 Jup 2037-08-14 Rah 2039-01-03 Ven

2039-11-19 Sun 2041-06-01 Moon 2041-11-08 Mars 2042-12-13 Merc Sat

2043-07-14 Jup 2045-01-31 Rah 2048-01-13 Ven 2049-11-23 Sun

2053-02-25 Moon 2054-01-31 Mars 2056-05-30 Merc 2057-08-26 Sat Jup

2060-04-15 Rah 2062-01-09 Ven 2063-02-13 Sun 2065-01-13 Moon

2065-08-01 Mars 2066-12-14 Merc 2067-09-06 Sat 2069-03-26

Kalachakra Dasa (Apasavya group, Paramayush = 88 years):

Cn Cn 1973-01-20 Vi 1977-12-29 Li 1980-02-10 Sc 1983-11-16 Pi

1985-07-09 Aq 1987-11-15 Cp 1988-10-24 Sg 1989-10-03 Sc 1992-02-09 Vi

Vi 1993-10-02 Li 1994-09-18 Sc 1996-06-04 Pi 1997-03-04 Aq 1998-03-29

Cp 1998-09-02 Sg 1999-02-05 Sc 2000-03-01 Li 2000-11-29 Li Li

2002-08-16 Sc 2005-08-30 Pi 2006-12-29 Aq 2008-11-22 Cp 2009-08-27 Sg

2010-05-31 Sc 2012-04-24 Li 2013-08-23 Vi 2016-09-06 Sc Sc 2018-05-24

Pi 2019-01-24 Aq 2020-01-09 Cp 2020-05-28 Sg 2020-10-15 Sc 2021-09-30

Li 2022-06-02 Vi 2023-12-14 Le 2024-10-24 Pi Pi 2025-04-17 Aq 2026-06-10

Cp 2026-11-24 Sg 2027-05-10 Sc 2028-07-02 Li 2029-04-21 Vi

2031-02-20 Le 2032-03-03 Cn 2032-09-28 Aq Aq 2035-02-24 Cp 2035-05-03 Sg

2035-07-09 Sc 2035-12-26 Li 2036-04-22 Vi 2037-01-19 Le 2037-06-20

Cn 2037-09-13 Ge 2038-09-03 Cp Cp 2039-02-03 Sg 2039-04-03 Sc 2039-08-30

Li 2039-12-12 Vi 2040-08-05 Le 2040-12-17 Cn 2041-03-01 Ge 2042-01-07

Ta 2042-05-20 Sg Sg 2043-01-13 Sc 2044-01-08 Li 2044-09-16 Vi

2046-04-15 Le 2047-03-05 Cn 2047-09-01 Ge 2049-09-26 Ta 2050-08-16 Ar

2052-03-14 Sc Sc 2052-11-21 Li 2053-05-16 Vi 2054-06-24 Le 2055-02-05

Cn 2055-06-11 Ge 2056-11-22 Ta 2057-07-06 Ar 2058-08-14 Sg 2059-02-06

Narayana Dasa of D-1 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa):

Cp Ta 1973-04-28 Ar 1973-12-24 Pi 1974-08-21 Aq 1975-04-18 Cp

1975-12-14 Sg 1976-08-10 Sc 1977-04-07 Li 1977-12-03 Vi 1978-07-31

Le 1979-03-28 Cn 1979-11-23 Ge 1980-07-20 Sg Pi 1981-03-17 Ar 1981-03-17

Ta 1981-03-17 Ge 1981-03-17 Cn 1981-03-17 Le 1981-03-17 Vi

1981-03-17 Li 1981-03-17 Sc 1981-03-17 Sg 1981-03-17 Cp 1981-03-17 Aq

1981-03-17 Sc Ar 1981-03-17 Ta 1981-06-15 Ge 1981-09-13 Cn 1981-12-12

Le 1982-03-12 Vi 1982-06-10 Li 1982-09-08 Sc 1982-12-07 Sg 1983-03-07

Cp 1983-06-05 Aq 1983-09-03 Pi 1983-12-02 Li Cp 1984-03-01 Sg 1984-08-28

Sc 1985-02-24 Li 1985-08-23 Vi 1986-02-19 Le 1986-08-18 Cn

1987-02-14 Ge 1987-08-13 Ta 1988-02-09 Ar 1988-08-07 Pi 1989-02-03 Aq

1989-08-02 Vi Cp 1990-01-29 Sg 1990-06-28 Sc 1990-11-25 Li 1991-04-24

Vi 1991-09-21 Le 1992-02-18 Cn 1992-07-17 Ge 1992-12-14 Ta 1993-05-13

Ar 1993-10-10 Pi 1994-03-09 Aq 1994-08-06 Le Ta 1995-01-03 Ar 1995-06-02

Pi 1995-10-30 Aq 1996-03-28 Cp 1996-08-25 Sg 1997-01-22 Sc

1997-06-21 Li 1997-11-18 Vi 1998-04-17 Le 1998-09-14 Cn 1999-02-11 Ge

1999-07-11 Cn Ta 1999-12-08 Ar 2000-05-06 Pi 2000-10-03 Aq 2001-03-02

Cp 2001-07-30 Sg 2001-12-27 Sc 2002-05-26 Li 2002-10-23 Vi 2003-03-22

Le 2003-08-19 Cn 2004-01-16 Ge 2004-06-14 Ge Pi 2004-11-11 Ar 2005-07-09

Ta 2006-03-06 Ge 2006-11-01 Cn 2007-06-29 Le 2008-02-24 Vi

2008-10-21 Li 2009-06-18 Sc 2010-02-13 Sg 2010-10-11 Cp 2011-06-08 Aq

2012-02-03 Ta Ar 2012-09-30 Ta 2013-08-26 Ge 2014-07-22 Cn 2015-06-17

Le 2016-05-12 Vi 2017-04-07 Li 2018-03-03 Sc 2019-01-27 Sg 2019-12-23

Cp 2020-11-17 Aq 2021-10-13 Pi 2022-09-08 Ar Cp 2023-08-04 Sg 2024-05-30

Sc 2025-03-26 Li 2026-01-20 Vi 2026-11-16 Le 2027-09-12 Cn

2028-07-08 Ge 2029-05-04 Ta 2030-02-28 Ar 2030-12-25 Pi 2031-10-21 Aq

2032-08-16 Pi Cp 2033-06-12 Sg 2033-07-12 Sc 2033-08-11 Li 2033-09-10

Vi 2033-10-10 Le 2033-11-09 Cn 2033-12-09 Ge 2034-01-08 Ta 2034-02-07

Ar 2034-03-09 Pi 2034-04-08 Aq 2034-05-08 Aq Ta 2034-06-07 Ar 2035-03-04

Pi 2035-11-29 Aq 2036-08-25 Cp 2037-05-22 Sg 2038-02-16 Sc

2038-11-13 Li 2039-08-10 Vi 2040-05-06 Le 2041-01-31 Cn 2041-10-28 Ge

2042-07-25

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Ramani Alwar

Monday, September 15, 2003 18:48 PM

Re: Kala sarpa dosha/yoga

Hello Could you please send your horoscope details in teh text but not as

attachement for analysis. Yours sincerelyA. Ramani.Srinivas Rao

<csrlc7 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:To,Respected RamaniAlwar & R singh.Attaching here

with chart of myself as the self is facing difficulties from childwood that

means at the age of 15 years this is cause due do Ksy as the my planetary

positions all are between in rahu in 6th house to ketu in 12th house.Still now

I thought exalted Mars in 7th house breaks the ksy and I had not done any

remedy for the same.Should I have do the remedy Please assist me.Service in

Gujarat is there any place in Gujarat for remedy.Awaiting for solution.

dob:28.04.1973 time 12.05 day and place is Rajahmundry (A.p.)Thanks & best

regardsSrinivas rao< Remaining message truncated >[Om Kleem Krishnaaya

Jagannathaaya namah]Send a blank mailTo :

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to the

September 25, 2003

Aum Namo Bhagvate Hrishikeshaya

Dear Srinivas:

Please kindly send me your children's charts at my personal email

[that you will find in this message].

I will take a look. But do not expect a fast reply [give me about a

week] as I am too tied up right now.

May you have all the good things you desire...

With that please convey my best regards to all your loved ones ever and

you and everyone take care too.

Aum Namo Narayana

Kind regards and best wishes from

Ron Bach

, "Srinivas Rao" <csrlc7@h...> wrote:

Hare Ram Krishna,

To,

Respected Ron Bach,Ramesh & other learned members,

Thanks for ur kind suggestion & all which is mention by Ron Bach is

true to my self,

major difficulties is related to 7th house issues.

Yes,it is true in my case of ksy the knowledge which is imparted to

Ron Bach from his Guruji as given below msg of Ron Bach is very true that my

Rahu has gone In Fiery sign & I am lucky enough

has mentioned the desires is fulfilled in ease and very true that the

ksy indicates a special desires in life as mentioned.

I myself will be to the nativity in the month of november and the

nearby place where Vijayawada(Bazawada) Andhra Pradesh

a very famous temple of Mata Kanaka Durga Devi.Perhaps the pooja would

be there I asked my releatives to arrange for Pooja.

I am lucky enough in coming Navaratri which is very useful to me doing

pooja's etc.

For Mantra as refrained I will take the others help.

Apart from this article of Jay Wess is true that inspite of my doing

hard work the fruits for the same is not gettting.

Ric: Mr.Ron Bach,If any problem would be there of children born of ksy

natal chart.

If so I would like to provide the natal chart of my children a boy & a

baby girl.

I would like to have word of ur suggestion as the children should not

get not in the problem.

Apart from this my debilation planets is causing problems I will take

care.

Once again thanks a lot of all of u.

Thanks & best regards

Srinivas rao

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