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Friday, August 08, 2003 11:40 PM

[sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] Another case of great career

Dear Visti,I may not have explained myself clearly.. When we get SAV points of

12th house and 11th house etc we are considering all planets in relation to

each other based on their BAV and finally we cast the SAV and then we get

totals for the house. I know you know this part.

Visti: Yes.

Now if one has 3 planets in 2nd house then as per BAV scheme ONLY if Guru is in

11th from Shani it will not give its bindu other than that Each and every

planet will contribute to the 11th house. I think this part also we had

discussed in detail.

Visti: In the future we need to make this more detailed with writeups.

Now after doing all that we got the points of 12th house and 11th house. If

more planets are in 2nd house they will contribute to 12th house and if ALONG

with that other planet are not supporting 11th house i.e. making its bindus

more than 12th basically we are automatically conidering so many yogs then

there will be debt.I did check the BAV for Shani and Mars. They help planets

in 6th from them except if Sun is in 6th from Shani.

Visti: Yes Sambandha is important as you pointed out. However you have looked

at the natural charachteristics of Mars and Shani to support the 6th from there

placement - This knowledge can be used to understand Mars and Shani's Bindus.

 

Instead see how Mars and Shani are affecting the 6th from Lagna, as thats where the debt arises.

For Mars also helps mostly all planets in 6th from them except for Shani.This

you can see from their BAV. But when we finally check the SAV which is a sum

total of all these individual things we come to a conclusion that 12th bhava

has more bindus than 11th so "expense" will be more than "income"If to check

when this debt will come or when will this native be out of debt that is

another topic...Similarly look at this case.. Shani in 12th and 11th points

much higher than 12th.. then shani aspects 2nd, 6th and 9th house and such a

person based on "Natural" quality of shani will not worry about spening money..

now if 11th points are more than 12th then we can combine the 2 and say that

whatever expense this person has will be and can be met.. now that does not

mean that in some antra in some mahadasha this person will not have debt.. but

some other antra will clear it... Such a shani can also not give sleep or

person wakes up late at night but if such a shani is with more bindus then it

will boost the 9th house etc etc.. here we are combining natural natures with

yogs etc.. I think these are different questions... one is to do with quality

and other to do with timing...I hope you understand what I had tried to say.

Visti: Yes.

I did not understand what you had said here.. you said Mars will remove debt

quicky.. here are u looking at the antar dasa of Mars to remove debt i.e.

timing or are you looking at just mars in general without considering other

planets ?

Visti: When looking at the results of planets we must consider their natural

charachteristics on a house. Mars will not cause debt as its too tight with

money. Shani will cause debt. Jupiter will try to bring more money. In this

mannor we understand the natural charachter of each graha.

 

Sooo... when we apply this to the various bhavas we can immedietely state from

the quality of Argala (and AV subsequently as they are linked), what the exact

effect on a Bhava will be.

 

I.e. Shani's Argala on the 4th house will not be auspicious. Reason; 4th house

shows happiness and Moon is the natural indicator of happiness, which Shani is

innimical towards. Hence Shani will cause sorrow and shock if it has Argala on

the 4th house.

 

Now in BAV distribution, the points are distributed without consideration of the

grahas placement with regards to the Lagna. Points are distributed but theres no

change in the distribution based on individual placement... this we need to

deduce on our own, as you said with the individual grahas placement.

 

That means that the resultant SAV for a bhava (really a rasi) cannot be the

final determinor for the natives extent of debt/gains, as it merely shows

potentiality - bindu or seed. I.e. where growth can occur. The nature of this

growth is deduced from the BAV and PAV, as not all grahas will give the same

results in say - 10th house.

 

The point is - which of Mars or Shani has the strongest sway over the 6th house.

If Mars does then the debts will be removed very quickly.

 

If we agree on the above, then we must consider the following;

1. Should we consider the individual BAV's of Mars and Shani on the Rasi of the

6th from Lagna and compare?

2. Should we consider the BAV of Jupiter (dhana karaka) only, and see the

effects of Mars and Shani on the 6th from Lagna.

 

Forget Dasa's for now.

Thanks for this discussion... its stimulating...Thanking you,Cheers !!!Ash