Guest guest Posted August 8, 2003 Report Share Posted August 8, 2003 OOUPS, I should have said 'Mars protector of natural Dhana karaka /Ju' corrected bellow as well. - N.Anna Friday, August 08, 2003 6:46 PM [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] Another case of great career Dear Visti, Ash, Very interesting discussion. I think I understood Ash's Qs, but not your reply, Visti. It's a good reminder that Mars, protector of Natural Dhana karaka, can remove Shani's debt-producing influence. 1/ However if we have more bindus in 12th H than 11th, would that be important debt-wise? Or is that too generalized and depends on other factors. Mars in 3rd will affect 6th,ok- 2/ than you said we should look at Mars' and Saturn's 6th House BAV- I am not getting what you're implying= if mars has more BAV than Saturn, would that 'lower' debts? 3/ What would happen if Saturn is in third rashi house? It would affect sixth house also- but would that be good for reducing the debts? Where is Mars in this picture? How do we apply the 'generalized' rule here/that Mars protector of dhana karaka Ju, lowers opposite effects of Sani/? 4)Unrelated- may be I should start another thread? We'll see- Is MALEFIC in third house FROM ANY house, considered good position?/as is in Rashi / Best wishes, Anna - Visti Larsen Friday, August 08, 2003 2:02 PM [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] Another case of great career |Vyam Vyasadevaaya Namah|Dear Ash, Your right, it would be considered in the Lagna vs Mars SAV. Now i have understood that Shani is the cause of debts, and it does so in 3 steps. 1. 12th house causing expenses. 2. 8th house causing need for more money in the form of loans. 3. 6th house in the form of debt and complete lock of economy when the debt hasn't been payed. Shani is the Karaka for all 3 houses, and the debt begins from the 12th. Now the enemy of Shani and the protector dhana (jupiter) is Mars, and will remove the debt. Thats why i said that Mars in the 3rd house would remove the debts quickly (obstructing the 6th house). So try checking out the 6th house BAV with focus on Shani and Mars. Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - ashsam73 Friday, August 08, 2003 6:20 PM [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] Another case of great career Dear Visti,Good point Visti, however when Mars is in 3rd house its already considered when you are computing the SAV. Not only is Mars's position considered w.r.t other planets, even other planets relation to Mars is considered .. so Just by Mars being in 3rd house does not explain this..More planets in 2nd house bumps up the points of 12th house and all planets are not giving enough bindus to 11th house in comparision to the 12th.. therefore Debt...Now if such a Mars was with low bindus i.e. < 4 then it will further oppose 12th house but it WILL give debt.. but instead if such a Mars was with > 4 bindus then it will give more debt...Any thoughts on this....Thanking you,Cheers !!!Ash, "Visti Larsen" <balabhadra@j...> wrote:> > |Vyam Vyasadevaaya Namah|> Dear Kumar,> There are plenty of Neecha Banga's in this chart, why didn't you notice them? See both Rasi and Navamsa... When you miss navamsa!!> > Formal education upto 12th grade, is seen in the 4th house, one we move to higher education we see the 6th from the 4th - 9th house where Bachelors or diplomas are seen. If the D-24 is acurate, then heart-break must have caused him alot of sorrow in education, and threatened to end it (venus in 10th and lord of A7).> > Check the Upapada for marriage - yes there are many afflictions.> > Ash, people with Mars in 3rd house are good at cleaning up their debts - Dristi & Virodha Argala on the 6th house.> > Best wishes> Visti> ---> Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org> Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> ----- Original Message ----- > kumar2372002 > > Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 10:12 AM> [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Another case of great career> > > Dear Visti, and list members :> > I have a friend's chart (details below), which I find quite > intriguing from decent (actually more than that) savings (own house > as well) he has amassed despite of affliction to the 2nd house by > both 6th and the 8th lords, and debilitation of the lord of 11th and > 2nd in D-9. He recently went back to India from here in the US.> > His education also remains unexplained due to debilitated and combust > Mercury. He has master's degree in engineering, but was miserable in > studies during his BE (bachelor's degree) from 87-91.> > Overall rise in life due to debilitated ascendant lord Saturn placed > with his enemy, Mars remains unexplained too.> > Only problem I could see in his career so far is instability with > jobs. He has changed many jobs so far.> > Can exalted 9th lord venus alone give this kind of prosperity in > one's life ? Are there any other strong/supporting points which I am > missing. He is wearing stones of Jupiter and Saturn.> > He is happily married with 2 kids as well, eventhough 7th lord is > severely afflicted.> > Name: Ajit B.> DOB: March 23, 1970 TOB: 5.09 AM> 73E50 20N02 (Nasik, India)> Time Zone: 5.30 No DST> > I shall very much appreciate your guidance on above.> > Many thanks,> Kumar> > > > Sponsor > > > > > > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]> Send a blank mail> To : -> To : > > Your use of is subject to the [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]Send a blank mailTo : -To : Your use of is subject to the [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]Send a blank mailTo : -To : Your use of is subject to the [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]Send a blank mailTo : -To : Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2003 Report Share Posted August 9, 2003 |Vyam Vyasadevaaya Namah|Dear Anna, Malefics in 3rd from any bhava causes 'Parakrama Argala' i.e. Argala after some excersion of action/power. This is good for any bhava. Other comments i think are answered in my mail to Ash... Ash is making excellent progress in Astakavarga, but its not an easy part of Jyotish - by far.Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - N.Anna Saturday, August 09, 2003 12:46 AM [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] Another case of great career Dear Visti, Ash, Very interesting discussion. I think I understood Ash's Qs, but not your reply, Visti. It's a good reminder that Mars, as Natural Dhana karaka, can remove Shani's debt-producing influence. 1/ However if we have more bindus in 12th H than 11th, would that be important debt-wise? Or is that too generalized and depends on other factors. Mars in 3rd will affect 6th,ok- 2/ than you said we should look at Mars' and Saturn's 6th House BAV- I am not getting what you're implying= if mars has more BAV than Saturn, would that 'lower' debts? 3/ What would happen if Saturn is in third rashi house? It would affect sixth house also- but would that be good for reducing the debts? Where is Mars in this picture? How do we apply the 'generalized' rule here/that Mars protector of dhana karaka Ju, lowers opposite effects of Sani/? 4)Unrelated- may be I should start another thread? We'll see- Is MALEFIC in third house FROM ANY house, considered good position?/as is in Rashi / Best wishes, Anna - Visti Larsen Friday, August 08, 2003 2:02 PM [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] Another case of great career |Vyam Vyasadevaaya Namah|Dear Ash, Your right, it would be considered in the Lagna vs Mars SAV. Now i have understood that Shani is the cause of debts, and it does so in 3 steps. 1. 12th house causing expenses. 2. 8th house causing need for more money in the form of loans. 3. 6th house in the form of debt and complete lock of economy when the debt hasn't been payed. Shani is the Karaka for all 3 houses, and the debt begins from the 12th. Now the enemy of Shani and the protector dhana (jupiter) is Mars, and will remove the debt. Thats why i said that Mars in the 3rd house would remove the debts quickly (obstructing the 6th house). So try checking out the 6th house BAV with focus on Shani and Mars. Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - ashsam73 Friday, August 08, 2003 6:20 PM [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] Another case of great career Dear Visti,Good point Visti, however when Mars is in 3rd house its already considered when you are computing the SAV. Not only is Mars's position considered w.r.t other planets, even other planets relation to Mars is considered .. so Just by Mars being in 3rd house does not explain this..More planets in 2nd house bumps up the points of 12th house and all planets are not giving enough bindus to 11th house in comparision to the 12th.. therefore Debt...Now if such a Mars was with low bindus i.e. < 4 then it will further oppose 12th house but it WILL give debt.. but instead if such a Mars was with > 4 bindus then it will give more debt...Any thoughts on this....Thanking you,Cheers !!!Ash, "Visti Larsen" <balabhadra@j...> wrote:> > |Vyam Vyasadevaaya Namah|> Dear Kumar,> There are plenty of Neecha Banga's in this chart, why didn't you notice them? See both Rasi and Navamsa... When you miss navamsa!!> > Formal education upto 12th grade, is seen in the 4th house, one we move to higher education we see the 6th from the 4th - 9th house where Bachelors or diplomas are seen. If the D-24 is acurate, then heart-break must have caused him alot of sorrow in education, and threatened to end it (venus in 10th and lord of A7).> > Check the Upapada for marriage - yes there are many afflictions.> > Ash, people with Mars in 3rd house are good at cleaning up their debts - Dristi & Virodha Argala on the 6th house.> > Best wishes> Visti> ---> Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org> Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> ----- Original Message ----- > kumar2372002 > > Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 10:12 AM> [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Another case of great career> > > Dear Visti, and list members :> > I have a friend's chart (details below), which I find quite > intriguing from decent (actually more than that) savings (own house > as well) he has amassed despite of affliction to the 2nd house by > both 6th and the 8th lords, and debilitation of the lord of 11th and > 2nd in D-9. He recently went back to India from here in the US.> > His education also remains unexplained due to debilitated and combust > Mercury. He has master's degree in engineering, but was miserable in > studies during his BE (bachelor's degree) from 87-91.> > Overall rise in life due to debilitated ascendant lord Saturn placed > with his enemy, Mars remains unexplained too.> > Only problem I could see in his career so far is instability with > jobs. He has changed many jobs so far.> > Can exalted 9th lord venus alone give this kind of prosperity in > one's life ? Are there any other strong/supporting points which I am > missing. He is wearing stones of Jupiter and Saturn.> > He is happily married with 2 kids as well, eventhough 7th lord is > severely afflicted.> > Name: Ajit B.> DOB: March 23, 1970 TOB: 5.09 AM> 73E50 20N02 (Nasik, India)> Time Zone: 5.30 No DST> > I shall very much appreciate your guidance on above.> > Many thanks,> Kumar> > > > Sponsor > > > > > > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]> Send a blank mail> To : -> To : > > Your use of is subject to the [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]Send a blank mailTo : -To : Your use of is subject to the [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]Send a blank mailTo : -To : Your use of is subject to the [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]Send a blank mailTo : -To : Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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