Achyuta Gurukul] Achyuta Gurukul] Another case of great career

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Dear Visti,

 

I may not have explained myself clearly.. When we get SAV points of

12th house and 11th house etc we are considering all planets in

relation to each other based on their BAV and finally we cast the SAV

and then we get totals for the house. I know you know this part.

 

Now if one has 3 planets in 2nd house then as per BAV scheme ONLY if

Guru is in 11th from Shani it will not give its bindu other than that

Each and every planet will contribute to the 11th house. I think

this part also we had discussed in detail.

 

Now after doing all that we got the points of 12th house and 11th

house. If more planets are in 2nd house they will contribute to 12th

house and if ALONG with that other planet are not supporting 11th

house i.e. making its bindus more than 12th basically we are

automatically conidering so many yogs then there will be debt.

 

I did check the BAV for Shani and Mars. They help planets in 6th

from them except if Sun is in 6th from Shani.

 

For Mars also helps mostly all planets in 6th from them except for

Shani.

 

This you can see from their BAV. But when we finally check the SAV

which is a sum total of all these individual things we come to a

conclusion that 12th bhava has more bindus than 11th so "expense"

will be more than "income"

 

If to check when this debt will come or when will this native be out

of debt that is another topic...

 

Similarly look at this case.. Shani in 12th and 11th points much

higher than 12th.. then shani aspects 2nd, 6th and 9th house and such

a person based on "Natural" quality of shani will not worry about

spening money.. now if 11th points are more than 12th then we can

combine the 2 and say that whatever expense this person has will be

and can be met.. now that does not mean that in some antra in some

mahadasha this person will not have debt.. but some other antra will

clear it... Such a shani can also not give sleep or person wakes up

late at night but if such a shani is with more bindus then it will

boost the 9th house etc etc.. here we are combining natural natures

with yogs etc.. I think these are different questions... one is to

do with quality and other to do with timing...

 

I hope you understand what I had tried to say.

 

I did not understand what you had said here.. you said Mars will

remove debt quicky.. here are u looking at the antar dasa of Mars to

remove debt i.e. timing or are you looking at just mars in general

without considering other planets ?

 

Thanks for this discussion... its stimulating...

 

Thanking you,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

, "Visti Larsen" <balabhadra@j...>

wrote:

>

> |Vyam Vyasadevaaya Namah|

> Dear Ash,

> Your right, it would be considered in the Lagna vs Mars SAV.

> Now i have understood that Shani is the cause of debts, and it does

so in 3 steps.

> 1. 12th house causing expenses.

> 2. 8th house causing need for more money in the form of loans.

> 3. 6th house in the form of debt and complete lock of economy when

the debt hasn't been payed.

>

> Shani is the Karaka for all 3 houses, and the debt begins from the

12th.

> Now the enemy of Shani and the protector dhana (jupiter) is Mars,

and will remove the debt. Thats why i said that Mars in the 3rd house

would remove the debts quickly (obstructing the 6th house).

> So try checking out the 6th house BAV with focus on Shani and Mars.

>

> Best wishes

> Visti

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> ashsam73

>

> Friday, August 08, 2003 6:20 PM

> [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] Another case

of great career

>

>

> Dear Visti,

> Good point Visti, however when Mars is in 3rd house its already

> considered when you are computing the SAV.

>

> Not only is Mars's position considered w.r.t other planets, even

> other planets relation to Mars is considered .. so Just by Mars

being

> in 3rd house does not explain this..

>

> More planets in 2nd house bumps up the points of 12th house and

all

> planets are not giving enough bindus to 11th house in comparision

to

> the 12th.. therefore Debt...

>

> Now if such a Mars was with low bindus i.e. < 4 then it will

further

> oppose 12th house but it WILL give debt.. but instead if such a

Mars

> was with > 4 bindus then it will give more debt...

>

> Any thoughts on this....

>

> Thanking you,

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> , "Visti Larsen"

<balabhadra@j...>

> wrote:

> >

> > |Vyam Vyasadevaaya Namah|

> > Dear Kumar,

> > There are plenty of Neecha Banga's in this chart, why didn't

you

> notice them? See both Rasi and Navamsa... When you miss navamsa!!

> >

> > Formal education upto 12th grade, is seen in the 4th house, one

we

> move to higher education we see the 6th from the 4th - 9th house

> where Bachelors or diplomas are seen. If the D-24 is acurate,

then

> heart-break must have caused him alot of sorrow in education, and

> threatened to end it (venus in 10th and lord of A7).

> >

> > Check the Upapada for marriage - yes there are many afflictions.

> >

> > Ash, people with Mars in 3rd house are good at cleaning up

their

> debts - Dristi & Virodha Argala on the 6th house.

> >

> > Best wishes

> > Visti

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> > kumar2372002

> >

> > Thursday, August 07, 2003 10:12 AM

> > [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Another case of great career

> >

> >

> > Dear Visti, and list members :

> >

> > I have a friend's chart (details below), which I find quite

> > intriguing from decent (actually more than that) savings (own

> house

> > as well) he has amassed despite of affliction to the 2nd

house by

> > both 6th and the 8th lords, and debilitation of the lord of

11th

> and

> > 2nd in D-9. He recently went back to India from here in the

US.

> >

> > His education also remains unexplained due to debilitated and

> combust

> > Mercury. He has master's degree in engineering, but was

miserable

> in

> > studies during his BE (bachelor's degree) from 87-91.

> >

> > Overall rise in life due to debilitated ascendant lord Saturn

> placed

> > with his enemy, Mars remains unexplained too.

> >

> > Only problem I could see in his career so far is instability

with

> > jobs. He has changed many jobs so far.

> >

> > Can exalted 9th lord venus alone give this kind of prosperity

in

> > one's life ? Are there any other strong/supporting points

which I

> am

> > missing. He is wearing stones of Jupiter and Saturn.

> >

> > He is happily married with 2 kids as well, eventhough 7th

lord is

> > severely afflicted.

> >

> > Name: Ajit B.

> > DOB: March 23, 1970 TOB: 5.09 AM

> > 73E50 20N02 (Nasik, India)

> > Time Zone: 5.30 No DST

> >

> > I shall very much appreciate your guidance on above.

> >

> > Many thanks,

> > Kumar

> >

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