[SJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Achyuta Gurukul] Achyuta Gurukul] Career/Income

August 8, 2003

Satyam Bruyat Prtiyam Bruyat

Anna,

I saw you apologising to Visti for your tone. In this case too it may

have been nice to just request for translation of the Shloka.

Best Regards

Ramesh

, "N.Anna" <anmar@a...> wrote:

> Dear Chandrashekar,

>

> You know Sanskrit! Good for you. I don't- many students either.

Unless your message is wrongly addressed, translation would be in

order.

>

> Best regards,

> Anna

>

> -

> Chandrashekhar Sharma

>

> Thursday, August 07, 2003 4:04 PM

> RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta

Gurukul] Re: Career/Income

>

> Dear Anna,

> It is also said " labhe sarva grahaH prashtaH.

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> N.Anna [anmar@a...]

> Thursday, August 07, 2003 4:44 AM

>

> [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta

Gurukul] Re: Career/Income

>

> Hello Rao,

>

> Sanjay has mentioned couple of times that

> Saturn in/rel. to 11th House, from AL is excellent position for

wealth. Besides, any planet in 11th from AL will bring wealth/if a

strong planet is there, big, if in enemy sign average..etc..along

that line/ It's said, 'even upagrahas bring wealth when in 11th from

AL'.

>

> Yes Saturn in 11th is particularly good- now Visti explained

the reason, but I have to sleep on that, to be able to extend this

rule further. /perhaps like Sun not being considered as malefic in

Aroodhas, which are related to Dharma../

>

> I don't like 'wordy' explanation myself- but would like to see

> if Visti would expand on this bit more, and not be too thrifty

with words. Unless Visti wants us to interpret his words the same way

we do with classics.

> Thanks Visti, anyway.

>

> Anna

> -

> Visti Larsen

>

> Wednesday, August 06, 2003 2:53 PM

> [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] Achyuta

Gurukul] Re: Career/Income

>

> |Vyam Vyasadevaaya Namah|

> Dear Rao,

> When the source of poverty becomes a source of wealth, then

you will never be poor.

> Best wishes

> Visti

> ---

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> -

> Rao Nemani

>

> Wednesday, August 06, 2003 8:33 PM

> [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Achyuta Gurukul] Re:

Career/Income

>

> Dear Visti Ji,

>

> Since Saturn is the cause of poverty then it would seem

> that its aspect on the 11th from AL would actually

> produce poverty. But you mentioned otherwise.

>

> I'd appreciate it if you could clarify this.

>

> Regards

> Rao

>

> , "Visti Larsen"

<balabhadra@j...>

> wrote:

> >

> > |Vyam Vyasadevaaya Namah|

> > Dear Sunil,

> > Comments below in green.

> > Best wishes

> > Visti

> > ---

> > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org

> > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org

> > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

> > -

> > Sunil John

> >

> > Wednesday, August 06, 2003 6:17 PM

> > [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Career/Income

> >

> > Dear Guru Visti,

> >

> > Thanks for this lovely analysis of this chart,

can i

> intervene and ask some queries at the right places as SJ:

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Sunil John

> > Mumbai

> > Dear Visti and fellow Members,

> >

> > Following is a chart of a person, who has

excelled in

> > academics (bachelors degree in engineering, where

he

> > topped his University)and ever since has had an

> > uninterrupted progress in career till now. But I

am

> > not able to find correlation of these facts with

his

> > chart.

> >

> > [JHD5.0 Chart attached. Birth details: 9 April

1973,

> > 6:30 pm, Bangalore(India)]

> >

> > CAREER/INCOME

> > -------------

> >

> > (1) Mars though exalted is placed with debilitated

> > Jupiter. But Mars does not rule over 10th or 11th

> > house so how will exalted Mars help in career

matters

> > ? Lord of 10th (Mercury) is in dead state in 6th

> > house.

> > Visti: Mars is exalted and gives Jupiter

Neecha Banga.

> Both have Rasi dristi on the 11th from AL, ensuring

enourmous gains

> (exalted and debilitated planets).

> > SJ: I think Sanjayji once said that the aspect of

Saturn on

> 11th from AL means regular flow of money, this chart has

Saturn

> residing in the 11th from AL - could u pls explain the

reasoning

> behind Saturn aspect or presence in the 11th from AL

translating as

> regular flow of money.

> >

> > Visti: Saturn is the cause of poverty. If it

aspects or

> joins the 11th from AL, you cannot be poor.

> >

> > However the same grahas are in 7th from AL and

can obstruct

> his image at times - especially Mars which causes a strong

> obstruction when exalted here.

> >

> > --> He is quite well known and respected in his

field

> > of work and has many friends.

> > Visti: This is due to Jupiter in Kendra to AL,

and Moon

> in Kendra to Lagna.

> > (2) 11th from AL is Tauras whose lord-Venus,

though

> > exalted is highly combust.

> > --> Should show low level of income. But that is

not

> > the case, he has high levels of income.

> >

> > Visti: Right - see aspects as well, also keep

in mind

> that income changes from time to time.

> >

> > (3) Jupiter, the 4th house lord is debilitated:

4th

> > house signifying basic education & houses/land-it

is

> > true he was below average student in his school

days

> > but later excelled in college. Also, has 2 houses

> > which he got built on his own i.e. not inherited.

> > --> Houses part is not consistent.

> >

> > Visti: Look at the 4th house itself - why did

u ignore

> this? Rahu is debilitated in 4th house, and wherever a

debilitated

> planet is, the native does not enjoy those activities and

will shy

> away from them. Rahu indicates not liking foreign languages

or

> foreign subjects. This will prove to be a big weakness for

him later

> on as Rahu is debilitated in 6th from AL, which will cause

him losses

> in abroad investments/dealings.

> >

> > Now when you wanto see more results from 1 bhava -

keep in

> mind the Karaka.

> > Bhoomi (land) Karaka = Mars.

> > Griha (buildings and home) Karaka = Ketu.

> > and

> > Vidya (education) Karaka = Mercury.

> >

> > The Bhoomi Karaka is Mars and is exalted in 5th

house. This

> is very fortunate as the Karaka is both strong and gives

argala to

> the 4th house showing plenty of land. This is then OWN

lands as its

> in the 5th house.

> >

> > Vidya Karaka is Mercury and is in the 6th house

and

> afflicted by Saturn - this causes alot of strife. This

Mercury causes

> Virodha-Argala on the 4th house, hence forcing him to work

very hard

> in education, against his will. College and such higher

educations

> are seen from the 9th house and Jupiter is the Karaka.

> >

> > SJ: Did the native go abroad for higher/bachelor

studies

> since 5th lord in 9H, 9th lord in 7th house forming close

conjunction

> with 12th lord Sun and also having aspect of Rahu the

foreign planet.

> Exaltation of this Ven also added to his performing well in

studies

> abroad - pls tell me if my line of thoughts is proper.

> >

> > Visti: Its possible - 12th lord is joined 9th

lord

> Venus - however it may not have been abroad - but rather in

a place

> where the language is different - Dual signs.

> >

> > HEALTH/MARRIAGE/CHILDREN

> > ------------------------

> >

> > (4) Venus though exalted is highly combust thus

> > afflicted in the 7th house AND 4th and 7th lord

> > (Jupiter) debilitated. Mercury (ascendent lord)

is in

> > almost dead state in 6th house. Aspect of

afflicted

> > Venus, Sun and debil. Jupiter on Ascendent.

> > --> Does this satisfactorily explain his weak

physique

> > with ulcer problem ?

> >

> > Visti: Lagna lord Mercury in the 6th house

under

> papakartari and subhakartari Yoga does indicate that. Also

look at

> Shani's affliction. This placement of Mercury is the reason

for his

> rebirth (AK).

> >

> > SJ:

> > 1. Dear Visti, does Shani's aspect always cause

lean or

> tallness esp on lagna or lagna lord

> > 2. U said this placement of Mercury is the reason

for his

> rebirth( AK) - can u pls expand and tell in lay mans terms

as to what

> is his reason of rebirth - is it realise healthy lifestyle.

> >

> > Visti:

> > 1. Leanness is caused by the dry planets - Sun,

Mars and

> Saturn. Tallness is caused by the placement of Saturn in

Lagna and

> strong - i.e. Either Aqua, Cap or Libra.

> > 2. The Atmakaraka shows why this soul has come

back. Its

> placement and Yoga in the chart shows the reason for

rebirth. When AK

> becomes Lagna lord then the native has to realise their

self in a

> specific area of life - i.e. in this case through hard work

and labour

> (6th house) and as Shani has Graha Dristi this is

associated with

> alot of sorrow.

> >

> > (5) Lord of 7th (Jupiter) debilitated, placed in

5th

> > house with Mars plus afflicted Venus is in 7th

with

> > Sun

> > --> Does it indicate troubles in getting married

or

> > married life and having children ?

> >

> > Visti: Why doesn't it indicate bad health to

spouse or

> no luck in love life? You need to be clear with the

definition.

> > i. Venus being afflicted does cause ill health to

spouse -

> however the same venus must be seen with regards to the 7th

house.

> Here its in the 7th house, and hence protects the house and

the

> spouse.

> > ii. Venus is exalted and hence there is great

enjoyment in

> love life and with the opposite sex. Good luck in love life.

> > iii. A person with such luck with females,

usually doesn't

> have a problem in getting married. Look a the Upapada to

see which

> factors delay the marriage in being solemnized. Upapada is

in Libra

> and its 7th - aries, is not occupied so no direct

obstructions. Now

> look at the Badhak sthana from Libra - this is Leo and its

lord - Sun

> is in 7th house causing the combustion of Venus. Hence the

father

> INLAW is obstructing the marriage, and the reason is seen

from lord

> of Sun - Leo the badhak sthana. As Leo is unoccupied its

due to suns

> own indications - religion, dharma, etc.

> > iv. Now does this necessarily mean that the

father will not

> like a girl of different religion? not necessarily. Check

the

> 4th/10th from Sun, as these planets will help cause the

issue/badhak.

> Ketu and Moon are in 4th from Sun, which is notable due to

the

> following - Ketu and Moon are in trines to the Upapada,

indicating

> the nature of the spouse is that of a different culture

(ketu) and

> highly spiritual (ketu+moon).

> >

> > --> Does it also explain his fiance, who is of

another

> > religion?

> >

> > Visti: see above. You must understand all the

rules

> before applying them. Lord of 7th house shows the person we

consider

> as a lover. Lord of 6th shows the person we consider as an

enemy.

> This person has serious paternal problems.

> > SJ: Visti, this person will have a love marriage

is this

> being indicated since 7th lord in 5th, also it is with A9

what does

> this indicate. pls expand

> >

> > Visti: Such a strong venus in 7th rarely

causes fixed

> marriages, its also lord of Upapada hence the link between

7th

> house/A7 and Upapada is there causing Love marriage.

> > In this case 7th lord in 5th can cause marriage

to an

> admirer. See the people pointing out the relationship from

the

> Arudhas joining the grahas. i.e. Dad is the first to say -

'So when

> are you two love birds getting married?'

> >

> > --> Does debil. Jupiter get strengthened by being

with

> > exalted Mars (friend) in a friendly house?

> >

> > Visti: yes.

> >

> > DASA

> > ----

> >

> > (6) Overall the chart appears weak. But he has

> > impressive achievements esp. regarding

career/money

> > and still only 30 yrs of age.

> > --> What are the good points in the chart ?

> > Visti: Arudha Lagna.

> > SJ: a very short reply from u sir, are u

hinting here to

> see the aspects of deb Jup, exal Mars on 11th from AL and

also the

> presence of Sat in 11th from AL. does the presence of A11

in the 11th

> from AL has some special significance here.

> >

> > Visti: A11 shows your favorite things in

life.

> >

> > --> Also, most of the planets are placed in

Moon's and

> > Mercury's (AK=mercury) nakshatras. What does it

mean?

> > Visti: That the focus of the chart is on

Moon and

> Mercury. Later we'll discuss this.

> > SJ: Could u kindly expand on this.

> >

> > Visti: This is linked to the Mana, i.e. what

is it

> focussed on doing... Later.

> >

> > (7) Now running his saturn dasa (saturn in

friends

> > sign-taurus in 9th house) till 2011. But later

is

> > Mercury dasa (2011-28) which is in bad shape

(but is

> > his AK), followed by Ketu dasa (2028-35) which

is in

> > Mercury's sign, followed by the dasa of

afflicted

> > Venus.

> > --> How will this affect his life?

> >

> > Visti: AK Dasa will be devastating - alot of

strife

> and labour with only sudden spurts in career achievements,

due to

> being in 8th from AL.

> > Saturn Dasa is quite good - its in 9th house

and in 11th

> from Arudha Lagna, ensuring unobstructed

> > wealth coming his way.

> > Visti: The remedy is to fast on Tuesdays

(days of

> Istha Devata) and worship Narasimha with the Mantra; "Kleem

> Narasimhaaaya Namah".

> >

> > Looking forward to all your replies.

> >

> > Thanks and Regards,

> > AC

> >

> > SJ: Looking forward to ur reply.

> > Thanks in advance

> >

> > Best wishes

> >

> > Sunil John

> > Mumbai.

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August 8, 2003

Dear Rao,

It is said that all planets in 11th house(Labha sthana) are good (give

beneficial results for that Bhava). If you read BPHS on 11th house , you will

find this to be true.

Chandrashekhar.

Rao Nemani [raonemani ]Sent:

Friday, August 08, 2003 2:46 AMSubject: [sJC:

Achyuta Gurukul] Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Career/IncomeDear

Chandrashekhar Ji,Can you please tell me the Transalation of the following

Sloka:- "Labhe Sarva GrahaH PrashtaH"RegardsRao--- In

, "Chandrashekhar Sharma" <boxdel> wrote:>

Dear Anna,> It is also said " labhe sarva grahaH prashtaH.> Chandrashekhar.>

> N.Anna [anmar@a...]> Sent:

Thursday, August 07, 2003 4:44 AM> >

[sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] Re:>

Career/Income> > > > > > Hello Rao,> > Sanjay has mentioned couple of times

that> Saturn in/rel. to 11th House, from AL is excellent position for wealth.>

Besides, any planet in 11th from AL will bring wealth/if a strong planet is>

there, big, if in enemy sign average..etc..along that line/ It's said,> 'even

upagrahas bring wealth when in 11th from AL'.> > Yes Saturn in 11th is

particularly good- now Visti explained the reason,> but I have to sleep on

that, to be able to extend this rule further.> /perhaps like Sun not being

considered as malefic in Aroodhas, which are> related to Dharma../> > I don't

like 'wordy' explanation myself- but would like to see> if Visti would expand

on this bit more, and not be too thrifty with words.> Unless Visti wants us to

interpret his words the same way we do with> classics.> Thanks Visti,

anyway.> > Anna> -> Visti Larsen>

> Wednesday, August 06, 2003 2:53 PM>

[sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] Achyuta Gurukul]> Re:

Career/Income> > > > |Vyam Vyasadevaaya Namah|> Dear Rao,> When the

source of poverty becomes a source of wealth, then you will> never be poor.>

Best wishes> Visti> ---> Sri Jagannath Center:

http://.org> Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org>

iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> ----- Original

Message -----> Rao Nemani> >

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 8:33 PM> [sJC: Achyuta

Gurukul] Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Career/Income> > > Dear Visti Ji,> >

Since Saturn is the cause of poverty then it would seem> that its aspect

on the 11th from AL would actually> produce poverty. But you mentioned

otherwise.> > I'd appreciate it if you could clarify this.> >

Regards> Rao> > , "Visti Larsen"

<balabhadra@j...>> wrote:> >> > |Vyam Vyasadevaaya Namah|>

> Dear Sunil,> > Comments below in green.> > Best wishes> >

Visti> > ---> > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org>

> Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> > iTRANS 99 Font:

http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> > ->

> Sunil John> > > >

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 6:17 PM> > [sJC: Achyuta

Gurukul] Re: Career/Income> >> >> > Dear Guru Visti,>

>> > Thanks for this lovely analysis of this chart, can i>

intervene and ask some queries at the right places as SJ:> >> >

Thanks> >> > Sunil John> > Mumbai>

> Dear Visti and fellow Members,> >> > Following is

a chart of a person, who has excelled in> > academics (bachelors

degree in engineering, where he> > topped his University)and ever

since has had an> > uninterrupted progress in career till now. But

I am> > not able to find correlation of these facts with his>

> chart.> >> > [JHD5.0 Chart attached. Birth

details: 9 April 1973,> > 6:30 pm, Bangalore(India)]> >>

> CAREER/INCOME> > -------------> >> >

(1) Mars though exalted is placed with debilitated> > Jupiter.

But Mars does not rule over 10th or 11th> > house so how will

exalted Mars help in career matters> > ? Lord of 10th (Mercury)

is in dead state in 6th> > house.> > Visti: Mars

is exalted and gives Jupiter Neecha Banga.> Both have Rasi dristi on the

11th from AL, ensuring enourmous gains> (exalted and debilitated

planets).> > SJ: I think Sanjayji once said that the aspect of

Saturn on> 11th from AL means regular flow of money, this chart has

Saturn> residing in the 11th from AL - could u pls explain the reasoning>

behind Saturn aspect or presence in the 11th from AL translating as>

regular flow of money.> >> > Visti: Saturn is the cause

of poverty. If it aspects or> joins the 11th from AL, you cannot be

poor.> >> > However the same grahas are in 7th from AL and

can obstruct> his image at times - especially Mars which causes a

strong> obstruction when exalted here.> >> > --> He

is quite well known and respected in his field> > of work and has

many friends.> > Visti: This is due to Jupiter in Kendra to AL,

and Moon> in Kendra to Lagna.> > (2) 11th from AL is Tauras

whose lord-Venus, though> > exalted is highly combust.> >

--> Should show low level of income. But that is not> > the

case, he has high levels of income.> >> > Visti: Right -

see aspects as well, also keep in mind> that income changes from time to

time.> >> >> > (3) Jupiter, the 4th house lord is

debilitated: 4th> > house signifying basic education &

houses/land-it is> > true he was below average student in his

school days> > but later excelled in college. Also, has 2 houses>

> which he got built on his own i.e. not inherited.> >

--> Houses part is not consistent.> >> > Visti: Look at

the 4th house itself - why did u ignore> this? Rahu is debilitated in 4th

house, and wherever a debilitated> planet is, the native does not enjoy

those activities and will shy> away from them. Rahu indicates not liking

foreign languages or> foreign subjects. This will prove to be a big

weakness for him later> on as Rahu is debilitated in 6th from AL, which

will cause him losses> in abroad investments/dealings.> >> >

Now when you wanto see more results from 1 bhava - keep in> mind

the Karaka.> > Bhoomi (land) Karaka = Mars.> >

Griha (buildings and home) Karaka = Ketu.> > and> >

Vidya (education) Karaka = Mercury.> >> > The Bhoomi Karaka

is Mars and is exalted in 5th house. This> is very fortunate as the

Karaka is both strong and gives argala to> the 4th house showing plenty

of land. This is then OWN lands as its> in the 5th house.> >>

> Vidya Karaka is Mercury and is in the 6th house and> afflicted

by Saturn - this causes alot of strife. This Mercury causes>

Virodha-Argala on the 4th house, hence forcing him to work very hard> in

education, against his will. College and such higher educations> are seen

from the 9th house and Jupiter is the Karaka.> >> > SJ: Did

the native go abroad for higher/bachelor studies> since 5th lord in 9H,

9th lord in 7th house forming close conjunction> with 12th lord Sun and

also having aspect of Rahu the foreign planet.> Exaltation of this Ven

also added to his performing well in studies> abroad - pls tell me if my

line of thoughts is proper.> >> > Visti: Its possible -

12th lord is joined 9th lord> Venus - however it may not have been abroad

- but rather in a place> where the language is different - Dual signs.>

>> >> > HEALTH/MARRIAGE/CHILDREN> >

------------------------> >> > (4) Venus though exalted is

highly combust thus> > afflicted in the 7th house AND 4th and 7th

lord> > (Jupiter) debilitated. Mercury (ascendent lord) is in>

> almost dead state in 6th house. Aspect of afflicted> >

Venus, Sun and debil. Jupiter on Ascendent.> > --> Does this

satisfactorily explain his weak physique> > with ulcer problem ?>

>> > Visti: Lagna lord Mercury in the 6th house under>

papakartari and subhakartari Yoga does indicate that. Also look at>

Shani's affliction. This placement of Mercury is the reason for his>

rebirth (AK).> >> > SJ:> > 1. Dear Visti,

does Shani's aspect always cause lean or> tallness esp on lagna or lagna

lord> > 2. U said this placement of Mercury is the reason for

his> rebirth( AK) - can u pls expand and tell in lay mans terms as to

what> is his reason of rebirth - is it realise healthy lifestyle.>

>> > Visti:> > 1. Leanness is caused by the dry

planets - Sun, Mars and> Saturn. Tallness is caused by the placement of

Saturn in Lagna and> strong - i.e. Either Aqua, Cap or Libra.> >

2. The Atmakaraka shows why this soul has come back. Its> placement

and Yoga in the chart shows the reason for rebirth. When AK> becomes

Lagna lord then the native has to realise their self in a> specific area

of life - i.e. in this case through hard work and labour> (6th house) and

as Shani has Graha Dristi this is associated with> alot of sorrow.>

>> > (5) Lord of 7th (Jupiter) debilitated, placed in 5th>

> house with Mars plus afflicted Venus is in 7th with> >

Sun> > --> Does it indicate troubles in getting married or>

> married life and having children ?> >> > Visti:

Why doesn't it indicate bad health to spouse or> no luck in love life? You

need to be clear with the definition.> > i. Venus being afflicted

does cause ill health to spouse -> however the same venus must be seen

with regards to the 7th house.> Here its in the 7th house, and hence

protects the house and the> spouse.> > ii. Venus is exalted

and hence there is great enjoyment in> love life and with the opposite

sex. Good luck in love life.> > iii. A person with such luck with

females, usually doesn't> have a problem in getting married. Look a the

Upapada to see which> factors delay the marriage in being solemnized.

Upapada is in Libra> and its 7th - aries, is not occupied so no direct

obstructions. Now> look at the Badhak sthana from Libra - this is Leo and

its lord - Sun> is in 7th house causing the combustion of Venus. Hence the

father> INLAW is obstructing the marriage, and the reason is seen from

lord> of Sun - Leo the badhak sthana. As Leo is unoccupied its due to

suns> own indications - religion, dharma, etc.> > iv. Now

does this necessarily mean that the father will not> like a girl of

different religion? not necessarily. Check the> 4th/10th from Sun, as

these planets will help cause the issue/badhak.> Ketu and Moon are in 4th

from Sun, which is notable due to the> following - Ketu and Moon are in

trines to the Upapada, indicating> the nature of the spouse is that of a

different culture (ketu) and> highly spiritual (ketu+moon).> >>

> --> Does it also explain his fiance, who is of another> >

religion?> >> > Visti: see above. You must understand

all the rules> before applying them. Lord of 7th house shows the person

we consider> as a lover. Lord of 6th shows the person we consider as an

enemy.> This person has serious paternal problems.> > SJ:

Visti, this person will have a love marriage is this> being indicated

since 7th lord in 5th, also it is with A9 what does> this indicate. pls

expand> >> > Visti: Such a strong venus in 7th rarely

causes fixed> marriages, its also lord of Upapada hence the link between

7th> house/A7 and Upapada is there causing Love marriage.> >

In this case 7th lord in 5th can cause marriage to an> admirer. See the

people pointing out the relationship from the> Arudhas joining the

grahas. i.e. Dad is the first to say -'So when> are you two love birds

getting married?'> >> > --> Does debil. Jupiter get

strengthened by being with> > exalted Mars (friend) in a friendly

house?> >> > Visti: yes.> >> >

DASA> > ----> >> > (6) Overall the chart

appears weak. But he has> > impressive achievements esp.

regarding career/money> > and still only 30 yrs of age.>

> --> What are the good points in the chart ?> >

Visti: Arudha Lagna.> > SJ: a very short reply from u sir,

are u hinting here to> see the aspects of deb Jup, exal Mars on 11th from

AL and also the> presence of Sat in 11th from AL. does the presence of A11

in the 11th> from AL has some special significance here.> >> >

Visti: A11 shows your favorite things in life.> >> >

--> Also, most of the planets are placed in Moon's and> >

Mercury's (AK=mercury) nakshatras. What does it mean?> > Visti:

That the focus of the chart is on Moon and> Mercury. Later we'll discuss

this.> > SJ: Could u kindly expand on this.> >> >

Visti: This is linked to the Mana, i.e. what is it> focussed on

doing... Later.> >> > (7) Now running his saturn dasa

(saturn in friends> > sign-taurus in 9th house) till 2011. But

later is> > Mercury dasa (2011-28) which is in bad shape (but

is> > his AK), followed by Ketu dasa (2028-35) which is in>

> Mercury's sign, followed by the dasa of afflicted> >

Venus.> > --> How will this affect his life?> >> >

Visti: AK Dasa will be devastating - alot of strife> and

labour with only sudden spurts in career achievements, due to> being in

8th from AL.> > Saturn Dasa is quite good - its in 9th house

and in 11th> from Arudha Lagna, ensuring unobstructed> >

wealth coming his way.> > Visti: The remedy is to fast on

Tuesdays (days of> Istha Devata) and worship Narasimha with the Mantra;

"Kleem> Narasimhaaaya Namah".> >> > Looking forward

to all your replies.> >> > Thanks and Regards,> >

AC> >> >> > SJ: Looking forward to ur reply.>

> Thanks in advance> >> > Best wishes>

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August 8, 2003

Dear Anna,

I am extremely sorry. I quoted a shloka, and as many on the list understand

Sanskrita, as I wanted the answer to be brief.Since most of the terms used in

Vedic astrology are sanskrit by most students, I thought such a straightforward

shloka would be understood.Your comment on knowing sanskrita is uncalled for as

in your earlier mails I find a lot of sanskrita words used.

Any way for those who do not understand sanskrita or other regional Indian

Languages, what I quoted means all planets give good results for 11th house

when posited there.

Chandrashekhar.

N.Anna [anmar (AT) attcanada (DOT) ca]Friday,

August 08, 2003 2:41 AMSubject: Re: [sJC:

Achyuta Gurukul] Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Career/Income

Dear Chandrashekar,

You know Sanskrit! Good for you. I don't- many students either. Unless your

message is wrongly addressed, translation would be in order.

Best regards,

Anna

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Chandrashekhar Sharma

Thursday, August 07, 2003 4:04 PM

RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Career/Income

Dear Anna,

It is also said " labhe sarva grahaH prashtaH.

Chandrashekhar.

N.Anna [anmar (AT) attcanada (DOT) ca]Sent:

Thursday, August 07, 2003 4:44 AMSubject: [sJC:

Achyuta Gurukul] Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Career/Income

Hello Rao,

Sanjay has mentioned couple of times that

Saturn in/rel. to 11th House, from AL is excellent position for wealth. Besides,

any planet in 11th from AL will bring wealth/if a strong planet is there, big,

if in enemy sign average..etc..along that line/ It's said, 'even upagrahas

bring wealth when in 11th from AL'.

Yes Saturn in 11th is particularly good- now Visti explained the reason, but I

have to sleep on that, to be able to extend this rule further. /perhaps like

Sun not being considered as malefic in Aroodhas, which are related to Dharma../

I don't like 'wordy' explanation myself- but would like to see

if Visti would expand on this bit more, and not be too thrifty with words.

Unless Visti wants us to interpret his words the same way we do with classics.

Thanks Visti, anyway.

Anna

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Visti Larsen

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 2:53 PM

[sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Career/Income

|Vyam Vyasadevaaya Namah|Dear Rao,

When the source of poverty becomes a source of wealth, then you will never be

poor.Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad

Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font:

http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

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Rao Nemani

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 8:33 PM

[sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Career/Income

Dear Visti Ji, Since Saturn is the cause of poverty then it would seem that its

aspect on the 11th from AL would actually produce poverty. But you mentioned

otherwise.I'd appreciate it if you could clarify this.RegardsRao--- In

, "Visti Larsen" <balabhadra@j...> wrote:> > |Vyam

Vyasadevaaya Namah|> Dear Sunil,> Comments below in green.> Best wishes> Visti>

---> Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org> Bhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> iTRANS 99 Font:

http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> - >

Sunil John > > Wednesday, August 06,

2003 6:17 PM> [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Career/Income> > >

Dear Guru Visti,> > Thanks for this lovely analysis of this chart, can

i intervene and ask some queries at the right places as SJ:> > Thanks>

> Sunil John> Mumbai> Dear Visti and fellow Members,> >

Following is a chart of a person, who has excelled in> academics

(bachelors degree in engineering, where he> topped his University)and

ever since has had an> uninterrupted progress in career till now. But I

am> not able to find correlation of these facts with his> chart.

> > [JHD5.0 Chart attached. Birth details: 9 April 1973,> 6:30

pm, Bangalore(India)]> > CAREER/INCOME> -------------> >

(1) Mars though exalted is placed with debilitated> Jupiter. But Mars

does not rule over 10th or 11th> house so how will exalted Mars help in

career matters> ? Lord of 10th (Mercury) is in dead state in 6th>

house.> Visti: Mars is exalted and gives Jupiter Neecha Banga. Both

have Rasi dristi on the 11th from AL, ensuring enourmous gains (exalted and

debilitated planets). > SJ: I think Sanjayji once said that the aspect

of Saturn on 11th from AL means regular flow of money, this chart has Saturn

residing in the 11th from AL - could u pls explain the reasoning behind Saturn

aspect or presence in the 11th from AL translating as regular flow of money.> >

Visti: Saturn is the cause of poverty. If it aspects or joins the

11th from AL, you cannot be poor.> > However the same grahas are in 7th

from AL and can obstruct his image at times - especially Mars which causes a

strong obstruction when exalted here.> > --> He is quite well known and

respected in his field> of work and has many friends. > Visti:

This is due to Jupiter in Kendra to AL, and Moon in Kendra to Lagna.>

(2) 11th from AL is Tauras whose lord-Venus, though> exalted is highly

combust.> --> Should show low level of income. But that is not>

the case, he has high levels of income. > > Visti: Right - see

aspects as well, also keep in mind that income changes from time to time.> > >

(3) Jupiter, the 4th house lord is debilitated: 4th> house

signifying basic education & houses/land-it is> true he was below

average student in his school days> but later excelled in college.

Also, has 2 houses> which he got built on his own i.e. not inherited. >

--> Houses part is not consistent.> > Visti: Look at the 4th

house itself - why did u ignore this? Rahu is debilitated in 4th house, and

wherever a debilitated planet is, the native does not enjoy those activities

and will shy away from them. Rahu indicates not liking foreign languages or

foreign subjects. This will prove to be a big weakness for him later on as Rahu

is debilitated in 6th from AL, which will cause him losses in abroad

investments/dealings.> > Now when you wanto see more results from 1

bhava - keep in mind the Karaka.> Bhoomi (land) Karaka = Mars.>

Griha (buildings and home) Karaka = Ketu.> and> Vidya

(education) Karaka = Mercury.> > The Bhoomi Karaka is Mars and is

exalted in 5th house. This is very fortunate as the Karaka is both strong and

gives argala to the 4th house showing plenty of land. This is then OWN lands as

its in the 5th house.> > Vidya Karaka is Mercury and is in the 6th house

and afflicted by Saturn - this causes alot of strife. This Mercury causes

Virodha-Argala on the 4th house, hence forcing him to work very hard in

education, against his will. College and such higher educations are seen from

the 9th house and Jupiter is the Karaka.> > SJ: Did the native go

abroad for higher/bachelor studies since 5th lord in 9H, 9th lord in 7th house

forming close conjunction with 12th lord Sun and also having aspect of Rahu the

foreign planet. Exaltation of this Ven also added to his performing well in

studies abroad - pls tell me if my line of thoughts is proper.> >

Visti: Its possible - 12th lord is joined 9th lord Venus - however it may

not have been abroad - but rather in a place where the language is different -

Dual signs.> > > HEALTH/MARRIAGE/CHILDREN>

------------------------> > (4) Venus though exalted is highly combust

thus> afflicted in the 7th house AND 4th and 7th lord>

(Jupiter) debilitated. Mercury (ascendent lord) is in> almost dead

state in 6th house. Aspect of afflicted> Venus, Sun and debil. Jupiter

on Ascendent.> --> Does this satisfactorily explain his weak physique>

with ulcer problem ?> > Visti: Lagna lord Mercury in the 6th

house under papakartari and subhakartari Yoga does indicate that. Also look at

Shani's affliction. This placement of Mercury is the reason for his rebirth

(AK).> > SJ: > 1. Dear Visti, does Shani's aspect always cause

lean or tallness esp on lagna or lagna lord> 2. U said this placement

of Mercury is the reason for his rebirth( AK) - can u pls expand and tell in

lay mans terms as to what is his reason of rebirth - is it realise healthy

lifestyle.> > Visti: > 1. Leanness is caused by the dry

planets - Sun, Mars and Saturn. Tallness is caused by the placement of Saturn

in Lagna and strong - i.e. Either Aqua, Cap or Libra.> 2. The

Atmakaraka shows why this soul has come back. Its placement and Yoga in the

chart shows the reason for rebirth. When AK becomes Lagna lord then the native

has to realise their self in a specific area of life - i.e. in this case

through hard work and labour(6th house) and as Shani has Graha Dristi this is

associated with alot of sorrow.> > (5) Lord of 7th (Jupiter)

debilitated, placed in 5th> house with Mars plus afflicted Venus is in

7th with> Sun> --> Does it indicate troubles in getting married

or> married life and having children ? > > Visti: Why doesn't

it indicate bad health to spouse or no luck in love life? You need to be clear

with the definition.> i. Venus being afflicted does cause ill health to

spouse - however the same venus must be seen with regards to the 7th house. Here

its in the 7th house, and hence protects the house and the spouse.> ii.

Venus is exalted and hence there is great enjoyment in love life and with the

opposite sex. Good luck in love life.> iii. A person with such luck

with females, usually doesn't have a problem in getting married. Look a the

Upapada to see which factors delay the marriage in being solemnized. Upapada is

in Libra and its 7th - aries, is not occupied so no direct obstructions. Now

look at the Badhak sthana from Libra - this is Leo and its lord - Sun is in 7th

house causing the combustion of Venus. Hence the father INLAW is obstructing the

marriage, and the reason is seen from lord of Sun - Leo the badhak sthana. As

Leo is unoccupied its due to suns own indications - religion, dharma, etc.>

iv. Now does this necessarily mean that the father will not like a girl of

different religion? not necessarily. Check the 4th/10th from Sun, as these

planets will help cause the issue/badhak. Ketu and Moon are in 4th from Sun,

which is notable due to the following - Ketu and Moon are in trines to the

Upapada, indicating the nature of the spouse is that of a different culture

(ketu) and highly spiritual (ketu+moon).> > --> Does it also explain

his fiance, who is of another> religion?> > Visti: see

above. You must understand all the rules before applying them. Lord of 7th

house shows the person we consider as a lover. Lord of 6th shows the person we

consider as an enemy. This person has serious paternal problems.> SJ:

Visti, this person will have a love marriage is this being indicated since 7th

lord in 5th, also it is with A9 what does this indicate. pls expand> >

Visti: Such a strong venus in 7th rarely causes fixed marriages, its also

lord of Upapada hence the link between 7th house/A7 and Upapada is there

causing Love marriage.> In this case 7th lord in 5th can cause marriage

to an admirer. See the people pointing out the relationship from the Arudhas

joining the grahas. i.e. Dad is the first to say - 'So when are you two love

birds getting married?'> > --> Does debil. Jupiter get strengthened by

being with> exalted Mars (friend) in a friendly house?> >

Visti: yes.> > DASA> ----> > (6) Overall the

chart appears weak. But he has> impressive achievements esp.

regarding career/money> and still only 30 yrs of age.> -->

What are the good points in the chart ? > Visti: Arudha Lagna.>

SJ: a very short reply from u sir, are u hinting here to see the aspects

of deb Jup, exal Mars on 11th from AL and also the presence of Sat in 11th from

AL. does the presence of A11 in the 11th from AL has some special significance

here.> > Visti: A11 shows your favorite things in life.> >

--> Also, most of the planets are placed in Moon's and> Mercury's

(AK=mercury) nakshatras. What does it mean?> Visti: That the focus

of the chart is on Moon and Mercury. Later we'll discuss this.> SJ:

Could u kindly expand on this.> > Visti: This is linked to the

Mana, i.e. what is it focussed on doing... Later.> > (7) Now running

his saturn dasa (saturn in friends> sign-taurus in 9th house) till

2011. But later is> Mercury dasa (2011-28) which is in bad shape (but

is> his AK), followed by Ketu dasa (2028-35) which is in>

Mercury's sign, followed by the dasa of afflicted> Venus.>

--> How will this affect his life? > > Visti: AK Dasa will be

devastating - alot of strife and labour with only sudden spurts in career

achievements, due to being in 8th from AL.> Saturn Dasa is quite good

- its in 9th house and in 11th from Arudha Lagna, ensuring unobstructed >

wealth coming his way.> Visti: The remedy is to fast on Tuesdays

(days of Istha Devata) and worship Narasimha with the Mantra; "Kleem

Narasimhaaaya Namah".> > Looking forward to all your replies.> >

Thanks and Regards,> AC> > > SJ: Looking forward to ur

reply.> Thanks in advance> > Best wishes> > Sunil

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August 8, 2003

Dear Chandrashekhar,

Don't be sorry, please. It is frustrating sometimes, for me and others with the

same problem, that I don't know Sanskrit. Nothing personal dear Chandrashekhar,

it's in fact good to have those who know- sloka you quoted is just wetting my

appetite for studying Sanskrit- I love languages, old ones in particular- Latin

language, and Old-Slavic taught only in Orthodox churches, I've studied with

huge enjoyment-

As you've noticed, I try to use 'original' words, at least for those basic

things, which are frequently in use. - far from understanding whole slokhas,

but- how could you know that?- I agree. Frustration over lack of knowledge is

not always bad- can be motivating in fact.

It seems that AL can be read as a different rashi chart- modifying greatly natal

chart 'promises. If that's so, no one should miss to study at least Aroodha L.

chart. Do you use Aroodhas for divisional charts regularly? /Which ones?/

Thanks again, and have a great weekend,

Anna

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Friday, August 08, 2003 3:59 PM