Guest guest Posted July 14, 2003 Report Share Posted July 14, 2003 please can any member or guru guide me , i have several chronic health problems and moodswings because of which marriage is delayed plus i fear problems in married life could be there. in my moon chartketu is in the 7th house opposite moon ,mars & rahu. so should i wear gomedh, cat's eye & coral or is there any other way i can improve my life? d o b = 04,september,1978. t o b = 10:17 a.m. place = jhelum (rawalpindi) pakistan. thanks, fatima wrote: ------------------------ Sponsor ---------------------~-->Buy Ink Cartridges & Refill Kits for Your Epson at Myinks.comFree shipping on orders $50 or more to the US and Canada.http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5705&lp=home/epson.asphttp://us.click./brYXfA/_xWGAA/ySSFAA/C9XolB/TM---~->[Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]Send a blank mailTo : -To : ------There are 17 messages in this issue.Topics in this digest:1. Re: |Sri Varaha| Appointment of new Gurus and Administra.../for Brendan/"N.Anna" 2. virus caution!sethusmony 3. Only to Gauranga and members kindly excuse me "Shanmukha" 4. GURU POORNIMA"Shailesh Chadha" 5. Re: Re: |Sri Varaha| Appointment of new Gurus and Admi...bpfeeley (AT) aol (DOT) com6. Re: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: |Sri Varaha| Appointment of new Gurus and Administrative heads - For Sanjay"J.Weiss" 7. [Fwd: Muhurata SJC Zambia]Swee Chan 8. please help me"ggks_2000" 9. Re: Re:curriculumbpfeeley (AT) aol (DOT) com10. Sapta Loka"Sanjay Rath" 11. Re: please help me"pmgade" 12. Re: please help meAmol Mandar 13. Re: please help me"amolmandar" 14. Date excellent military singles in your area."jeff081977" 15. FW: Sapta Loka: ATTN: Narayan Iyer"Sandy Crowther" 16. Re: [vedic astrology] Sapta Loka"Sarajit Poddar" 17. Re: [vedic astrology] Sapta Loka-->To Sarajit Ji"Rao Nemani" __________Message: 1Sun, 13 Jul 2003 10:20:53 -0400"N.Anna" Re: |Sri Varaha| Appointment of new Gurus and Administra.../for Brendan/Dear Brendan,Thank you for your message, I appreciate what you said. I cannot/and will not say that I agree with curriculum proposal, either, but at least there is a recognition of more relevant issue. If your reason for provoking reaction on this major issue /and request for personal response, name calling alike, that I am strongly opposed to- I am always ready to apologize if I make mistake and am not patient enough allowing myself to slip down on that level- I do that by responding to your friendly message/, so if you wanted to call for opinions this way, I must admit that's very original approach.Honestly, other than pointing to potential harm from what I've considered thoughtless organizational move, I've never had neither illusion nor intention 'to save the world'. I feel that everyone should contribute to organization he belongs to, even temporary, and I thought I did just that- out of 1000's on the lists, only 2 had different opinion, so 'who cares'? Majority is not necessarily right, though, but that's unimportant topic in this thread.Thank you for your message again, I share good will with you, and I am sending my sincere best wishes to you,Anna - Bpfeeley (AT) AOL (DOT) COM varahamihira ; Saturday, July 12, 2003 11:01 PMRe: |Sri Varaha| Appointment of new Gurus and Administra...In a message dated 7/12/2003 1:55:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, anmar (AT) attcanada (DOT) ca writes:Jaya JagannathaDear Anna,Now we have become too complex and the name calling has started. You are a good person and we do not need to go there. My remark 'who cares' was too frivolous and I apologize. I have never been a rebel in this life but have a passion for reform and change and my work with authority has always been in that area. The same applies to my views on politics, religion, education, medicine, war and especially Bush. Why shouldn't we express our views?Sanjay has spoken and has clarified his vision for all of us. We are all here together as souls trying to understand ourselves and it is our destiny to be together. If his vision grows, and it will, it can only help people and the world. This is novel in our present age. But as he says, the age has changed and my bhakti Guru has been saying this since the early 1970's... re the growth of Vedic knowledge and the authentic form of Sanatan Dharma (the eternal Divine religion) in the world after the turn of the century.I know your intentions are good and all communication leads to a better understanding eventhough we have both faltered in our words and shown our weakness and ignorance. This way we learn a deeper respect for each other as long as we don't construct inpenetrable walls and distance.Warm Regards,BrendanDear Brendan,I think I said what I thought I should 'and saved my soul'. So, go ahead with Jyotish Ministers, Semi-Gods maybe you achieve the goal in making SJC a reputable institution.But this Maya World unfortunately has to agree with that it IS real, otherwise, why bother with anything, But who cares? you said- making everything so 'relative' and unimportant, which are synonyms in this case, until the light of value disappears, fight for title goasts and ego-goasts, and other irrelevancies, that's the surest way to loose the sense of 'What our goal has been once upon a time, if it lives that long. To "educate masses' as you said is TOTALL contradiction to 'Who cares' ? If you don't see that, I'm afraid that our dialog would be impossible, and IMHO would mean that MONOLOG with vivid, colourful, utopistic, contradictory, virtual reality is your chosen way of dealing with this issue. I didn't say you are one who flatters the Guru, I just listed potential evils, and since you asked me, without looking at your chart, just your posts, you are too 'young and rebellious to be Team worker, poor communicator and with problem dealing with any authority so pronounced, that I am sure, no you are definitely not one who flatters, but neither one who is able to clear /his/ foggy/ illusions...I hate giving opinion of this kind, but remember, YOU asked me to, and to please you I am writing this. I don't have any problem with this, I was just concerned if this 'wonderful science' as you said, which is still in it's 'infancy' state in the world, could survive your type of care. Again, I said what I thought was my obligation, in a best way my humble abilities allowed, and this is over for me. I am fully aware of the fact that I cannot do more in this matter, and I am not there any longer. That also means that I won't be responding to any further discussion on this issue. Last thing I want to say is that I do like you, for the same qualities I consider inadequate for achieving the goal so dear to me, you, others, and that is JYOTISH for Life.Warmest regards,Anna Sponsor |Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira [This message contained attachments]__________Message: 2Sun, 13 Jul 2003 19:29:36 +0530sethusmony virus caution!Hare RamaDear Members,An attachment "http.exe" seems to be a virusSave or open it with caution.Use Outlook Express or MS Out Look ensuring u ve no mail with virusattachmentsI got the same today from Glist ethu__________Message: 3Sun, 13 Jul 2003 15:49:44 -0000"Shanmukha" Only to Gauranga and members kindly excuse meNamaste Members,I request you to kindly excuse me for posting a personal mail on the list. This , I am forced to do so , as messages sent to Sri Gauranga Das has been bouncing and I tried umpteen times to post it to his personal mail ID. I once again beg your pardon and the following message is only to Gauranga Das.I remain,Shanmukha.Namaste Gauranga Das,Now I could find some info which may be useful to you. I am giving below the phone No. and email address of Sri P.Siva Kumar. But I am not sure whether he is the one whom you suppose to be the successor to Sri Rangacharya. Siva Kumar says Rangacharya has lot more serious students. Any way the details I found Phone Number : 27074259 (Residence)email ID : mikroflo (AT) hd1 (DOT) vsnl.net.inPlease let me know if any other info is required.I remain,ShanmukhaP.S : I heard that Sri Rangacharya is coming to Hyderabad in a week or 10 days . And Please remember the email address typed is correct and has no typos.Gauranga Das wrote: Dear Teli,Namaste.Thank you very much for the info. I regret that he does not have email, becuase that would considerably ease up communication with him. However I have heard that he has one serious student, whom he has been training for years now and he wants him to make his successor. Myabe you could find out details about htis person and see if he is available on email?Thank you very much for yur efforts so far.Yours,Gauranga das__________Message: 4Sun, 13 Jul 2003 21:10:05 +0530"Shailesh Chadha" GURU POORNIMA|| Om Gurave Namah :: Om Namo Naaraayanaaya |||| Om Gurave Namah :: Om Namo Naaraayanaaya ||My sincere respects and regards to the respected Gurus, who bless us all with the invaluable gift of learning and knowledge.Shailesh---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.478 / Virus Database: 275 - Release 5/6/2003[This message contained attachments]__________Message: 5Sun, 13 Jul 2003 15:17:56 EDTbpfeeley (AT) aol (DOT) comSubject: Re: Re: |Sri Varaha| Appointment of new Gurus and Admi...In a message dated 7/13/2003 10:22:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, anmar (AT) attcanada (DOT) ca writes:Thanks Anna.> Dear Brendan,> > Thank you for your message, I appreciate what you said. I cannot/and will > not say that I agree with curriculum proposal, either, but at least there is a > recognition of more relevant issue. If your reason for provoking reaction on > this major issue /and request for personal response, name calling alike, > that I am strongly opposed to- I am always ready to apologize if I make mistake > and am not patient enough allowing myself to slip down on that level- I do > that by responding to your friendly message/, so if you wanted to call for > opinions this way, I must admit that's very original approach.> > Honestly, other than pointing to potential harm from what I've considered > thoughtless organizational move, I've never had neither illusion nor intention > 'to save the world'. I feel that everyone should contribute to organization > he belongs to, even temporary, and I thought I did just that- out of 1000's on > the lists, only 2 had different opinion, so 'who cares'? Majority is not > necessarily right, though, but that's unimportant topic in this thread.> > Thank you for your message again, I share good will with you, and I am > sending my sincere best wishes to you,> > Anna > [This message contained attachments]__________Message: 6Sun, 13 Jul 2003 21:21:42 +0200"J.Weiss" Re: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: |Sri Varaha| Appointment of new Gurus and Administrative heads - For SanjayDear Sanjay,Thank you for your mail which indeed said a lot.The first title which comes to my mind as a very appropriate and probably both accepted and respected by all - .In accordance with many English dictionaries a Master (in connection with knowledge and education) is one who reached a very high level of skill and knowledge and who has 'workers' under him (if in a business) - (i.e. students).Master is related to all sorts of fields or/and sciences, which we all claim Jyotish to be.In my opinion a master title can be divided into three levels/ranks corresponding to Guru, mainly;1. Junior Master2. Master 3. Senior Master This allows leveling the very wide field of Jyotish and depends naturally on the type of acknowledgement mechanism one will attach to the system. Examples: Master of Vedic Astrology or Master of Jyotish, (Jyotish Master), Jyotish Senior Master, etc.The word/title (and) 'Lecturer' can than be freely added to those titles where the individual is actually qualifies to teach and transfer knowledge.Not all Gurus/Masters have the ability to teach/transfer material despite a high level of knowledge.Titles of the 'professor' nature can be used first when SJC becomes a governmental recognised and certified educational establishment. Such roles are valid in most European countries (see a good example at http://www.soc.uu.se/titles.html for some excellent references)I hope this helps a bit on the way.Kindest regardsJay Weiss- Sanjay Rath SJC ; varahamihira Sunday, July 13, 2003 3:48 AMRE: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: |Sri Varaha| Appointment of new Gurus and Administrative heads - For Sanjay|brihaspatim varenyam|Dear JayYou wrote:Yesterday evening I had a long chat with my father-in-law who is a retired university professor and previously well known politician (known for his educational and juridical activities both in Sweden and the European parliament).I told him of my reaction to the 'professor' title and asked for his comment/opinion.Without hesitation he said: "".[s.Rath:] Thanks for this feedback and we respect your fathers views as it is the truth. I have done some more reading on this -pro-fes-sor (pruh fes'uhr) n. 1. a college or university teacher of the highest academic rank in a particular branch of learning.2. any teacher who has the rank of professor, associate professor, or assistant professor.3. a teacher.4. an instructor in some art or skilled sport.5. a person who professes his or her sentiments, beliefs, etc.Today in India at least, the teacher who used to get the highest respect in society is no longer given any credit for his learning. What a mess the modern educational system has created. Now which of these meanings will define the professor? Even a parrot that expresses its sentiments by repeating phrases when its keeper arrives can be classified as 'professor'. Muhammad Ali can be called Professor of Boxing or Bruce Lee can be Professor of Kung Fu. What about the meaning as 'teacher'?? Can we say that the driving lesson instructor is a professor of driving..or maybe the title Professor will get misused to such an extent that the intellectual ability associated with the title shall cease to have meaning.That is why we at SJC have continued to use the title Jyotisa Guru and write (Professor of astrology) like this so that the Guru is not equated with boxers or drivers. We are using the name Professor only for the benefit of some countries where the legal requirements need a proper definition for the title. How would you translate 'Jyotish Guru' for legal matters? Make an attempt and give me a better option. I will also need options for -1. Jyotisa Acharya2. Jyotisa Sastri and also3. DaivagynaI can only wish you and SJC good luck in pursuing this line of titles in hope that the future will not prove wrong.[s.Rath:] Thanks you wrote: [s.Rath:] A subject never gets a bad name..people do...* Unfortunately this is the opposite for astrology in many countries/societies (for various reasons), just ask around ...[s.Rath:] Yes you are right. I forgot the persecution of astrologers in Europe. However in India learning has always been held in high esteem for many centuries simply because it is regarded as the Gayatri Mantra in full bloom. Is this persecution continuing? Just see what the west has done to tantra...I am really disgusted when I read those web sites about tantra. They will never understand as their intellects are totally covered by the veil of maya. Tantra or the power to control and protect the body has been reduced to Kamasutra in the west and they fool themselves with the notion of spiritual bliss associated with physical release. Such fools shall fill the world as Kali progresses unless we have the strength to stand up and tell them..'you are wrong'. I admire you as I see this streak of truth force in you - to call a spade a spade. So go ahead and participate in this process of steering Jyotish into a new era where we can have titles to recognise the Sun from among the stars.God blessJay Weiss~ om tat sat ~Yours truly,Sanjay Rath---------------------------H-5, B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India+91-674-2436871 http://srath.com--------------------------- - Sanjay Rath varahamihira Saturday, July 12, 2003 7:55 AMRE: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: |Sri Varaha| Appointment of new Gurus and Administrative heads - For Sanjay|brihaspatim varenyam|Dear JayThanks for the early warning. comments below~ om tat sat ~Yours truly,Sanjay Rath---------------------------H-5, B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India+91-674-2436871 http://srath.com--------------------------------Original Message-----J.Weiss [jayhw (AT) telia (DOT) com]Friday, July 11, 2003 11:39 AMvarahamihiraSubject: Re: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: |Sri Varaha| Appointment of new Gurus and Administrative heads - For SanjayDear Sanjay,Below is my response to Mr. Abbot which I belive you'll find appropriate.*------*I appreciate your mail and your sincere comments.I certainly accept and respect everyone who reached a high level of Jyotish study, proving a reasonable degree (?) of correct analysis and percentage of accurate predictions (?).In other words, one who's Jyotish work results truly help others in the spirit of Jyotish teachings. The Jyotish Guru title (or similar) is perfect and highly respected for those.=== message truncated === SMS using the Messenger; Download latest version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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