[SJC: Achyuta Gurukul] worship of human beings

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Dear Alexandra

 

! Hare Krsna !

 

Lets see what Lord Krishna says in Bhagvad Gita. There is a lot we can learn from these two verses:

 

Chapter 4. Transcendental Knowledge

TEXT 34

tad viddhi pranipatena pariprasnena sevaya upadeksyanti te jnanam jnaninas tattva-darsinah

SYNONYMS

tat--that knowledge of different sacrifices; viddhi--try to understand;

pranipatena--by approaching a spiritual master; pariprasnena--by submissive

inquiries; sevaya--by the rendering of service; upadeksyanti--initiate;

te--unto you; jnanam--knowledge; jnaninah--the self-realized; tattva--truth;

darsinah--the seers.

TRANSLATION

Just try to learn the truth by approaching a spiritual master. Inquire from him

submissively and render service unto him. The self-realized soul can impart

knowledge unto you because he has seen the truth.

TEXT 35

yaj jnatva na punar moham evam yasyasi pandava yena bhutany asesani draksyasy atmany atho mayi

SYNONYMS

yat--which; jnatva--knowing; na--never; punah--again; moham--illusion;

evam--like this; yasyasi--you shall go; pandava--O son of Pandu; yena--by

which; bhutani--all living entities; asesani--totally; draksyasi--you will see;

atmani--in the Supreme Soul; atho--or in other words; mayi--in Me.

TRANSLATION

And when you have thus learned the truth, you will know that all living beings

are but part of Me--and that they are in Me, and are Mine.

PURPORT (from AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada)

The result of receiving knowledge from a self-realized soul, or one who knows

things as they are, is learning that all living beings are parts and parcels of

the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Lord Sri Krsna. The sense of a separated

existence from Krsna is called maya (ma--not, ya--this). Some think that we

have nothing to do with Krsna, that Krsna is only a great historical

personality and that the Absolute is the impersonal Brahman. Factually, as it

is stated in the Bhagavad-gita, this impersonal Brahman is the personal

effulgence of Krsna. Krsna, as the Supreme Personality of Godhead, is the cause

of everything. In the Brahma-samhita it is clearly stated that Krsna is the

Supreme Personality of Godhead, the cause of all causes. Even the millions of

incarnations are only His different expansions. Similarly, the living entities

are also expansions of Krsna. The Mayavadi philosophers wrongly think that

Krsna loses His own separate existence in His many expansions. This thought is

material in nature. We have experience in the material world that a thing, when

fragmentally distributed, loses its own original identity. But the Mayavadi

philosophers fail to understand that A bsolute means that one plus one is equal

to one, and that one minus one is also equal to one. This is the case in the

absolute world. For want of sufficient knowledge in the absolute science, we

are now covered with illusion, and therefore we think that we are separate from

Krsna. Although we are separated parts of Krsna, we are nevertheless not

different from Him. The bodily difference of the living entities is maya, or

not actual fact. We are all meant to satisfy Krsna. By maya alone Arjuna

thought that the temporary bodily relationship with his kinsmen was more

important than his eternal spiritual relationship with Krsna. The whole

teaching of the Gita is targeted toward this end: that a living being, as His

eternal servitor, cannot be separated from Krsna, and his sense of being an

identity apart from Krsna is called maya. The living entities, as separate

parts and parcels of the Supreme, have a purpose to fulfill. Having forgotten

that purpose, since time immemorial, they are situated in different bodies, as

men, animals, demigods, etc. Such bodily differences arise from forgetfulness

of the transcendental service of the Lord. But when one is engaged in

transcendental service through Krsna consciousness, one becomes at once

liberated from this illusion. One can acquire such pure knowledge only from the

bona fide spiritual master and thereby avoid the delusion that the living entity

is equal to Krsna. Perfect knowledge is that the Supreme Soul, Krsna, is the

supreme shelter for all living entities, and giving up such shelter, the living

entities are deluded by the material energy, imagining themselves to have a

separate identity. Thus, under different standards of material identity, they

become forgetful of Krsna. When, however, such deluded living entities become

situated in Krsna consciousness, it is to be understood that they are on the

path of liberation, as confirmed in the Bhagavatam: muktir hitvanyatha-rupam

svarupena vyavasthitih. Liberation means to be situated in one's constitutional

position as the eternal servitor of Krsna (Krsna consciousness).

 

 

www.asitis.com From this one book you will learn from Lord Krishna Himself what

is the difference between us and God. Spirit soul and super soul. Indeed if you

sincereley approach Bhagvad Gita you will clear up the issue of husbands and

virginal girls too.

We conditioned souls are not at a stage to actually realise the spirit soul that

is us and others' real identity. So best not to falsely worship human beings in

the name of claiming that they are incarnations of God.

In fact we cannot have Krishna without Guru. And we cannot have Guru without

Krishna. If we try to go direcxt to Lord Krishna He tells us (in Bhagvad Gita

as stated above) to approach a bonafide Guru. A bona fide never claims he is

god. Never. He will never allow you to worship him as Lord Krishna. Although

Lord Krishna tells us to worship the spiritual master as much as Himself as He

loves for His pure devotees to be glorified.

My best wishes to you

Your servant

Kasim

>"Alexandra Kafka"

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>[sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] worship of human beings >Thu, 26 Jun 2003

21:26:36 +0200 > >Every human is an incarnation of God, right? >So can one reach

enlightenment by worshipping any ordinary person as god/goddess? >Does that only

work with Avatars, or certain spiritual advanced persons like ones Guru? >Or

does that also work with commpletely ordinary persons? >For instance Indian

women in erlier times regarded their husbands as gods, and then there is also

the worship of Devi in form of virginal girls. Tired of spam? Get advanced junk

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