Guest guest Posted June 26, 2003 Report Share Posted June 26, 2003 |Om Namah Shivaaya| Dear Prashant, Comments below. Best wishes Visti --- Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - prashantnarang Wednesday, June 25, 2003 6:34 PM [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] visti- check this one too! dear visti, i think u r right, i need to think on this.. well, in that case it's mercury whose lordship is to be considered to find the source for manifestation in this birth. if we compare this with reeve's chart, there the afflictor rahu was 8th lord, here the afflicted planet is 8th lord. & there lordship of mercury showed the circumstances underwhich he was paralysed.(why didn't we take moon in reeve's case as the main one is still not very clear to me , ) Visti: If we didn't then its a mistake. Moon lords lagna - go figure, he is suffering VERY badly healthwise. here, mercury 's lordship may also show the source / or the cicumstances, 5 & 8th house together may show partener's cheating, health concerns , loans,....moreover , both the house r afflicted, 5th has badhkesh, 8th has sat which shows long age but may give some chronic problem....it can be children also .. Visti: Isn't Reeve's Lagna Cancer - please clarify? Partners cheating? Health concerns? i don't see why unless Darapada is involved. now how do we asceratin the nature of source of trouble? areas gonna b affected are shown by lordship of malefics...1st house, 3rd , & 10 house... Visti: If u check Sri Rama's chart, the bringers of trouble are the lordships of Jup - 6th and 9th. The areas where the trouble really causes problems are the houses lorded by Saturn (7th and 8th), where Sri Rama felt sorrow. Whenever in doubt, refer to him. the person & his work will def suffer, may b his younger ones too. may be his partener may cheat him in his business, or his work may suffer due to his ill health. now, the signs in which planets r posited in , most important sign in this case is cancer, mpst fruitful sign also.. being in 6th his relevant indications would be non-violence , caring, sensitivity. rahu is in 10thsign capricorn,(hard work & discipline should not b ignored.) Visti: Wait with the sign until you get into the finer details of what the houses vs signs means. i'll try to conclude here.: should he gets angry/violent on children or ignores his loans, he'll suffer a lot, both on personal front as well as domestic. (idon't know his moola dasa., but certainly mars dasa is gonna b really worse.) Visti: The worst thing that can happen is if we repeat the problems again. The native will be angry/frustrated with the sources that bring the curse. Here Moon lords lagna, hence health issues are a source of alot of frustrations. he has ju in 6th from his al, , of course he is very tolerant & non- violent, but hot tempered. anyway 2 benefics in kendras, 2 in trikonas will help him out in case of any trouble. remedies:i don't what to prescribe as he doesn't believe in any kind of rites & rituals, not even any form of god. (but why? where is it in his chart?) will he ever start believing in saguna sakar iswara? Visti: Are we still talking about Christopher Reeve? 9th lord is important for spirituality. The remedy is among others, to offer rice to brahmins or possibly a cow, if the brahmin can tend to it. Also a bow to the mother is required. with regards prashant , "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote: > |Hare Rama Krishna| > Dear Prashant, > Sometimes we do something wrong to one person and everyone around us reacts much worse to our actions. > > i.e. you may cause alot of suffering to your Guru, but your father reacts even more adversely to thi than the Guru did. > > Thats why it is ONLY the most benefic planet involved in the curse which defines the actual curse. The other people who curse us will offcourse give their results. There is both curse of Uncle and Brother - see their lordships and define the results. > > Best wishes > Visti > --- > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org > - > prashant narang > > Wednesday, June 25, 2003 2:24 PM > [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] visti- check this one too! > > > dear visti, > though now i can identify curses, i m not very confident about their explaination especially in malefic 's curse, for eg, this chart seems to have a very prominent brother's curse( u can say uncle's also, but i would consider brothr's as the main one, since mercury the signifi. is in the house itself, mars afflicts all 3..). deb mars being 3rd lord afflicts 6th house. lord (along with rahu)& its significator too ............ > plz help with the houses involved & consequences... > with regards > prashant > > > > - ----------- > > SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > Sponsor > > > > > > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah] > Send a blank mail > To : - > To : > > Terms of Service. Sponsor [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah] Send a blank mail To : - To : Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2726.2500" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D"URW Palladio IT" color=3D#ff0000 size=3D2>|Om Namah=20 Shivaaya|</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"URW Palladio IT" size=3D2>Dear Prashant,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"URW Palladio IT" size=3D2>Comments = below.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Best wishes<BR>Visti<BR>---<BR>Sri = Jagannath=20 Center: <A=20 href=3D"http://.org">http://.org</A><BR>Bhagavad = Purana:=20 <A=20 href=3D"http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org">http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org<= /A><BR>iTRANS=20 99 Font: <A=20 href=3D"http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org">http://www.omkarananda-ashram.= org</A></FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B></B>=20 <A title=3Dprashantnarang=20 href=3D"prashantnarang">prashantnarang</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=3D=20 = href=3D"">= </A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 25, 2003 = 6:34=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] = Re:=20 Achyuta Gurukul] visti- check this one too!</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"URW Palladio IT" size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3D"URW = Palladio IT"=20 size=3D2></FONT><BR></DIV><TT> <DIV><FONT face=3D"URW Palladio IT" size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3D"URW = Palladio IT"=20 size=3D2></FONT><BR>dear visti, <BR>i think u r right, i need to = think on=20 this..<BR>well, in that case it's mercury whose lordship is to be=20 considered <BR>to find the source for manifestation in this=20 birth.<BR><BR>if we compare this with reeve's chart, there the = afflictor rahu=20 was <BR>8th lord, here the afflicted planet is 8th lord. & there = lordship=20 of <BR>mercury showed the circumstances underwhich he was = paralysed.(why=20 <BR>didn't we take moon in reeve's case as the main one is still not = <BR>very=20 clear to me , )</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"URW Palladio IT" color=3D#ff0000=20 size=3D2><STRONG><EM>Visti: If we didn't then its a = mistake.=20 Moon lords lagna - go figure, he is suffering VERY badly=20 healthwise.</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3D"URW = Palladio IT"=20 color=3D#ff0000 size=3D2></FONT></EM></STRONG><FONT face=3D"URW = Palladio IT"=20 size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3D"URW Palladio IT" size=3D2></FONT> <DIV><FONT face=3D"URW Palladio IT" size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3D"URW = Palladio IT"=20 size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3D"URW Palladio IT" size=3D2></FONT><FONT=20 face=3D"URW Palladio IT" size=3D2></FONT><BR>here, mercury 's lordship = may also=20 show the source / or the <BR>cicumstances, 5 & 8th house together = may show=20 partener's cheating, <BR>health concerns , loans,....moreover , both = the house=20 r afflicted, <BR>5th has badhkesh, 8th has sat which shows long age = but may=20 give some <BR>chronic problem....it can be children also ..</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"URW Palladio IT" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3D"URW Palladio IT" color=3D#ff0000=20 size=3D2>Visti: Isn't Reeve's Lagna Cancer - please = clarify?=20 Partners cheating? Health concerns? i don't see why unless Darapada is = involved.</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV><FONT face=3D"URW Palladio IT"=20 size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3D"URW Palladio IT" size=3D2></FONT> <DIV><FONT face=3D"URW Palladio IT" size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3D"URW = Palladio IT"=20 size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3D"URW Palladio IT" size=3D2></FONT><FONT=20 face=3D"URW Palladio IT" size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3D"URW Palladio = IT"=20 size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3D"URW Palladio IT" size=3D2></FONT><BR>now = how do we=20 asceratin the nature of source of trouble?<BR>areas gonna b affected = are shown=20 by lordship of malefics...1st <BR>house, 3rd , & 10 house...</DIV> <DIV></TT><TT><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3D"URW Palladio IT" = color=3D#ff0000=20 size=3D2>Visti: If u check Sri Rama's chart, the = bringers of=20 trouble are the lordships of Jup - 6th and 9th. The areas where the = trouble=20 really causes problems are the houses lorded by Saturn (7th and 8th), = where=20 Sri Rama felt sorrow. Whenever in doubt, refer to=20 him.</FONT></EM></STRONG></TT></DIV><TT><STRONG><EM><FONT=20 face=3D"URW Palladio IT" color=3D#ff0000=20 size=3D2></FONT></EM></STRONG><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3D"URW Palladio = IT"=20 color=3D#ff0000 size=3D2></FONT></EM></STRONG><STRONG><EM><FONT=20 face=3D"URW Palladio IT" color=3D#ff0000=20 size=3D2></FONT></EM></STRONG><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3D"URW Palladio = IT"=20 color=3D#ff0000 size=3D2></FONT></EM></STRONG><STRONG><EM><FONT=20 face=3D"URW Palladio IT" color=3D#ff0000=20 size=3D2></FONT></EM></STRONG><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3D"URW Palladio = IT"=20 color=3D#ff0000 size=3D2></FONT></EM></STRONG><STRONG><EM><FONT=20 face=3D"URW Palladio IT" color=3D#ff0000=20 size=3D2></FONT></EM></STRONG><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3D"URW Palladio = IT"=20 color=3D#ff0000 size=3D2></FONT></EM></STRONG> <DIV><BR>the person & his work will def suffer, may b his younger = ones=20 too. <BR>may be his partener may cheat him in his business, or his = work may=20 <BR>suffer due to his ill health.<BR>now, the signs in which planets r = posited=20 in , most important sign <BR>in this case is cancer, mpst fruitful = sign=20 also..<BR>being in 6th his relevant indications would be non-violence = ,=20 <BR>caring, sensitivity. rahu is in 10thsign capricorn,(hard work = &=20 <BR>discipline should not b ignored.)<BR><STRONG><EM><FONT=20 face=3D"URW Palladio IT" color=3D#ff0000 = size=3D2>Visti: Wait with=20 the sign until you get into the finer details of what the houses vs = signs=20 means.</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV><FONT face=3D"URW Palladio IT" = size=3D2></FONT> <DIV><BR>i'll try to conclude here.:<BR>should he gets angry/violent = on=20 children or ignores his loans, he'll <BR>suffer a lot, both on = personal front=20 as well as domestic. <BR>(idon't know his moola dasa., but certainly = mars=20 dasa is gonna b <BR>really worse.)<BR><STRONG><EM><FONT=20 face=3D"URW Palladio IT" color=3D#ff0000 = size=3D2>Visti: The worst=20 thing that can happen is if we repeat the problems again. The native = will be=20 angry/frustrated with the sources that bring the curse. Here Moon = lords lagna,=20 hence health issues are a source of alot of=20 frustrations.</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT=20 face=3D"URW Palladio IT" color=3D#ff0000=20 size=3D2></FONT></EM></STRONG><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3D"URW Palladio = IT"=20 color=3D#ff0000 size=3D2></FONT></EM></STRONG><STRONG><EM><FONT=20 face=3D"URW Palladio IT" color=3D#ff0000=20 size=3D2></FONT></EM></STRONG><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3D"URW Palladio = IT"=20 color=3D#ff0000 size=3D2></FONT></EM></STRONG> <DIV><BR>he has ju in 6th from his al, , of course he is very tolerant = &=20 non-<BR>violent, but hot tempered. anyway 2 benefics in kendras, 2 in=20 <BR>trikonas will help him out in case of any trouble.=20 <BR><BR>remedies:i don't what to prescribe as he doesn't believe = in any=20 <BR>kind of rites & rituals, not even any form of god. (but why? = where=20 <BR>is it in his chart?) will he ever start believing in saguna sakar=20 <BR>iswara?<BR><STRONG><EM><FONT face=3D"URW Palladio IT" = color=3D#ff0000=20 size=3D2>Visti: Are we still talking about = Christopher Reeve?=20 9th lord is important for spirituality. The remedy is among others, to = offer=20 rice to brahmins or possibly a cow, if the brahmin can tend to = it. Also a=20 bow to the mother is required.</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"URW Palladio IT" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>with regards<BR>prashant<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>--- In=20 , "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...>=20 <BR>wrote:<BR>> |Hare Rama Krishna|<BR>> Dear Prashant,<BR>>=20 Sometimes we do something wrong to one person and everyone around = <BR>us=20 reacts much worse to our actions.<BR>> <BR>> i.e. you may cause = alot of=20 suffering to your Guru, but your father <BR>reacts even more adversely = to thi=20 than the Guru did.<BR>> <BR>> Thats why it is ONLY the most = benefic=20 planet involved in the curse <BR>which defines the actual curse. The = other=20 people who curse us will <BR>offcourse give their results. There is = both curse=20 of Uncle and <BR>Brother - see their lordships and define the = results.<BR>>=20 <BR>> Best wishes<BR>> Visti<BR>> ---<BR>> Sri Jagannath = Center:=20 <A = href=3D"http://.org">http://.org</A><BR>> = Bhagavad=20 Purana: <A=20 = href=3D"http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org">http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org<= /A><BR>>=20 iTRANS 99 Font: <A=20 = href=3D"http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org">http://www.omkarananda-ashram.= org</A><BR>> =20 - <BR>> prashant = narang=20 <BR>> = <BR>> =20 Wednesday, June 25, 2003 2:24 PM<BR>> = [sJC:=20 Achyuta Gurukul] visti- check this one too!<BR>> <BR>>=20 <BR>> dear visti,<BR>> though now = i can=20 identify curses, i m not very confident about <BR>their explaination=20 especially in malefic 's curse, for eg, this <BR>chart seems to have a = very=20 prominent brother's curse( u can say <BR>uncle's also, but i would = consider=20 brothr's as the main one, since <BR>mercury the signifi. is in the = house=20 itself, mars afflicts all 3..). <BR>deb mars being 3rd lord afflicts = 6th=20 house. lord (along with rahu)& <BR>its significator too=20 ............<BR>> plz help with the houses involved = &=20 consequences...<BR>> with regards<BR>> =20 prashant<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>>=20 = -<BR>--= ---------<BR>> =20 <BR>> SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 = per month!=20 <BR>> = Sponsor=20 = <BR>> = ; =20 = <BR>> &nbs= p; =20 <BR>> =20 <BR>> <BR>>=20 <BR>> [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya=20 namah]<BR>> Send a blank mail<BR>> To = :=20 -<BR>> To = :=20 <BR>> <BR>> = Your=20 use of is subject to the Terms of=20 <BR>Service.<BR><BR></TT><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><!-- |**|begin egp = html banner|**| --> <TABLE cellSpacing=3D0 cellPadding=3D2 border=3D0> <TBODY> <TR bgColor=3D#ffffcc> <TD align=3Dmiddle><FONT color=3D#003399 size=3D-1><B> = Groups=20 Sponsor</B></FONT></TD></TR> <TR bgColor=3D#ffffff> <TD align=3Dmiddle width=3D470> <TABLE cellSpacing=3D0 cellPadding=3D0 border=3D0> <TBODY> <TR> <TD align=3Dmiddle><FONT face=3Darial=20 size=3D-2></FONT><BR><A=20 = href=3D"http://rd./M=3D244522.3313099.4604523.1261774/D=3Degroup= web/S=3D1705082690:HM/A=3D1595056/R=3D0/SIG=3D124fv1soh/*http://ashnin.co= m/clk/muryutaitakenattogyo?YH=3D3313099&yhad=3D1595056"=20 alt=3D""><IMG height=3D250 alt=3D"Click Here!"=20 = src=3D"http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/qu/quinstreet/300x250_uofp_yel= low-arrows2.gif"=20 width=3D300 = border=3D0></A></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR> <TR> <TD><IMG height=3D1 alt=3D""=20 = src=3D"http://us.adserver./l?M=3D244522.3313099.4604523.1261774/= D=3Degroupmail/S=3D:HM/A=3D1595056/rand=3D223660415"=20 width=3D1></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><!-- |**|end egp html = banner|**| --><BR><TT>[Om=20 Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]<BR>Send a blank mail<BR>To = :=20 -<BR>To :=20 </TT> <BR><BR><TT>Your use of = =20 Groups is subject to the <A = href=3D"">=20 Terms of Service</A>.</TT> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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