Guest guest Posted June 2, 2003 Report Share Posted June 2, 2003 Respected Gurus and Learned members In COVA Pg. No. 376-377, Guru Sanjay Rath teaches us that Karaka Bhava Nasha does not always apply to the placement of the Primary Naisargika Karakas(PNK) in the BHAVAs signified by them. They rather apply to Chara Karakas(CK). Through TWO scenarios, COVA explains how this can happen 1. The PNK and CK for a given house IS ONE AND SAME. For example Sun is the natural significator of the 1st first house. He happens to be chara atma karaka in a given chart. (Example Swami Vivekananda Atma Karaka Sun) Or Venus, natural significator for 7th house is chara dara karaka in a chart. 2. The LORD of a particular house is ALSO the CHARA KARAK for the house in a chart. For example Shri Ramakrishna Paramhans, (Aq. lagna) Rahu is lagnesh in rasi chart and also atma karak. Second example, Adolf Hitler, same case, Rahu, is lagnesh and also atma karak. In case of Maa Sarada, Shri Ramakrishna's wife the lord of seventh house is chara dara karak. In both the above scenarios, extraordinary results at both ends of the spectrum are seen as manifestations of Karaka Bhava nasha through chara karaka. However, unlike the analysis of the PNKs, the placement of the chara karaka does not seem to be an issue. But the question is what will be the effects in the above scenario if the chara karaka for a particular house is also placed in the signified house? A) For example, in a given chart of Leo lagna, Sun, is the natural significator of the 1st first house is lagnesh, located in the Lagna and also happens to be the atma karaka? Sun is also placed in navamsa Lagna, would it add to the effects? B) In Jawaharlal Nehru's chart(India's first prime minister) Moon is lagnesh placed in lagna, and also the atma karak. How to link this to his self-actualisation or sufferings? C) Secondly, the what if a great benefic like Jupiter, the natural significator of 9th house is placed in the 9th, and also happens to be the chara pitri karak? What if this Jupiter is also in exaltation? D) Thirdly what if a pure malefic like Rahu, is the chara pitri karak and placed in 9th, its own maran karak sthana? Will the karaka bhava nasha and maran karak sthana effects cancel each other OR will the destruction be doubled? What if the same Rahu is in exaltation? Apart from B) above others are live examples whose details can be taken up for further probing, if the need so arises. IF placement of the chara karak is indeed related to the Karak bhava nasha effect, Can we safely presume that such a thing will take place if Atma karak is placed in lagna Amatya karak is in 11th Bhratri karak in 3rd Gnati karak in 6th Putra karak in 5th Pitri karak in 9th Matri karak in 4th Dara karak in 7th Dear Gurus and Members, these are the feeble efforts of a beginner trying to orient oneself in this vast subject. Please be compassionate and guide. Humbly yours Aparna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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