20th discussion meeting proceedings---> Sanjay Ji,

May 27, 2003

Dear Sanjay Ji,

Namaste,

I have read DasGupta ji's chart analysis and your comments with great

interest and leaned many things. From the following rememdy I was

not able to understand one thing:

Can you please tell me, what is the rule/dictum for a gemstone is not

a remedy for a native, for example in this chart it was mentioned

that "Jup is in 9th from moon so gem will not work".

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Remedy:

Jup aspects Ketu and Rahu+mars all by rashi dristi and Sat by graha

dristi. So it was felt that Jup can give the solution. Jup is in 9th

from moon so gem will not work. Maha Mrityunjaya mantra was suggested

for the native to avert the effect of black magic and haunting by

spirits. Mrityunjaya mantra being the best remedy for such doshas.

This mantra must do the needfull also due to the reason that her ketu

dasa is ending and ven dasa would start shortly and venus is the

owner of mrityunjaya mantra. Sun indicates her ista as Shiva. Jup

also indicates Shiva in higher form. So Mrityunjaya mantra will

propiciate Jup & Sun also. Jup is aspecting Ketu. So by propiciating

Jup..ketu will get a head and become ganesha to drive away the

spirits.

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Thanks for your time and help.

Regards

Rao

, "Sanjay Rath" <srath@s...> wrote:

>

> |brihaspatim varenyam|

> Dear JK and Mumbai group:

> Some points to ponder are listed under.

> ~ om tat sat ~

> Yours truly,

> Sanjay Rath

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[sentto-1045255-5082-1053876951-srath=vsnl.com@r...]On Behalf

Of j.k. dasgupta

> Sunday, May 25, 2003 9:06 PM

>

> [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] 20th discussion meeting

proceedings, mumbai

>

> Respected learned list members,

>

> Our 20th meeting was held on 18.05.03. The same was attended by,

>

> 1. Anand Sonde

> 2. Sunil John

> 3. Dr. ramchandani

> 4. Aparna Vedula

> 5. Vishwanatham

> 6. Dr. rajeev Karekar

> 7. Dasgupta

> [Rath:] Some names seem to be missing. I hope all is fine.

>

> We had discussion on horoscope of a female native who is reportedly

troubled by spirits and actually sees them. We tried to look for the

reason. The chart is attached herewith in jhl4.1 format. We would

request learned members to kindly comment on the same

> ===============================================

> Chart Details:

> 4th October 1971 at 1pm in Townsville, Queensland, Australia

> 146E48, 19S16

> TZ: 10.00 (east of GMT)

>

> 1. She left her birth place and went to Saudi for job in April'1999

and came back to Australia in Sept'2000

> [Rath:] The planets that take a person to a foreign land should be

examined very carefully. Here they are Ketu dasa Mars anterdasa in

April 1999. Thus Ketu and Mars have to be examined in the chart for

the results of what will follow in the foreign land. Note that both

Ketu and Mars are the lords of the badhak house indicating foreign

travel. Further, Ketu is placed in a Kendra as mars

associates/aspects lagna causes Pisacha badhak. Thus, the trip to

foreign land shall bring some serious problem regarding Pisacha

badhak due to Ketu and Mars should be the inference.

>

> 2. She started seeing one muslim boy in August 1999 and was engaged

on the 21st October 1999 but the marriage did not ultimately took

place.

> [Rath:] Why arn't the views of the group not given here? The dasa

had changed to Ketu dasa Rahu antardasa and both planets are involved

in a sarpa yoga without a break. Normally sarpa yoga makes a person

very sexually inclined and agressive in sexual activity. both these

planets also aspect the darapada A7 indicating that she will think of

marriage as physical contact and will suffer consequently. The point

is that Brihaspati is sitting very strong in the darapada and is also

aspecting the 5th house. So we can see a battle of sorts between

Jupiter and Rahu to have a relationship with her. Now see the raha

arudha of Jupiter - Jup (9) is in Lagna andd is protecting her

reputation and name while Jup (12) is in 7th house in Cancer. So

Jupiters influence in her personal life is going to be strong. Also

he dominates darapada and put a fight against Rahu. So, she cannot

marry the man she meets in Ketu dasa Rahu antardasa. More so as UL is

Libra and its lord is debilitated and it is Jupiter who gives

neechabhanga for Venus, but this neechabhanga is not present

naturally from Guru and Mercury does neechabhanga i.e. Mercury

intervenes on behalf of Juptier. Speak to her and try to identify

these people Jupiter & Mercury while Rahu is identified as the boy

she met in Ketu-Rahu period.

>

> 3. Miscarried a child in April 2000 and then gave birth to a

daughter in April 2001 in Australia

> [Rath:] This must be before April 20 2000 in Ketu-Rahu-Venus

period. Who was the prospective father? Mr.Rahu?? Tell her she has

lost a fantastic son (see Mars in Sg in D7). Next child is indicated

by Moon in Scorpio in D7 - daughter. Come Jupiter and she got out of

the direct influence of the sarpa yoga and other evils.

>

> 4. While in Saudi she had a lot of lucid dreaming with snakes.

> [Rath:] Did you notice the sarpa yoga? I find no mention of this.

Also there is no mention of Rahu aspecting the 9th lord Mercury which

is the cause of the dreams. Dreams of snakes is indicative of

terrible enemies working against her. Mercury is also the 6th lord.

> 5. Arround July'1999, while in Saudi..she started seeing spirits.

She tells that one woman there, who threatened her earlier on account

of relationship jealousy - applied black magic on her.

> [Rath:] No I don't agree with this. The sixth lord is Mercury and

it does not have any contact with the badhak sign Scorpio nor with

the badhakesh Mars. Sixth lord conjoining debilitated Venus indicates

that she had problems and fight with a woman but there is no

indication that that lady was able to do any black magic that

afflicted her. What she suffers from is prarabdha karma and this is

due to a past life karma that she carries.

>

> This woman is reported to have very high passion which leads her

into various relations and subsequent troubles. But she is not happy

with her own passion and feels guilty about it. Is it due to her

placement of Ke in 7th - who acts like Mars creating lot of passions

and debilated AK Venus - who tries to show her the correct way? Plz

note that Ven is also aspected by Rahu- aflicting Ven as well as Sun.

> [Rath:] True. Venus shows correct way? Like how?? Please spell out.

Of course I missed it - Venus is Atmakaraka, so she will learn life

through terrible mistakes related to sexual activity and 'love'.

(Gauranga made this point earlier about AK Venus).

>

> AK Ven is debilated and in the star of Mars. She left her birth

place in Ke-Ma-Me dasa. Ke is in her 7th house of foreign journey and

Ve is in Virgo. She came back as her Ke-Jup started. Jup is her DK in

badhaka sthana. Actually the main reason for her coming back was

disappointment created due to refusal of the boy to marry her.

Religion (karaka Jup) was the main reason for the muslim boy's

refusal. Her AL is in 12th from UL and this was her 1st serious

relationship with intention to marry. Hence rejection by her would be

spouse is clear from the chart.

> [Rath:] Excellent. See how a Jupiter placed in badhak can cause

differences related to religion. Brilliant point. So whose child is

the daughter?? GRAPES ARE SOUR - the boy says no and so she finds it

convenient to blame a woman for black magic. Rejection is something

lovers find hard to digest.

>

> In rashi, 9th house has rahu aspect-shows problem for 1st child

birth. In her D7, lagna is Le - odd sign. counting in zodiac

direction, 5th from Le (Sg) has Mars...showing medical problems. her

miscarriage occured in Ke-Ra-Ve dasa. Ve is in Mars star. 3rd from Sg

is Aq. Lord Sa is in Cp a female rashi. So her 2nd child was a

daughter.

> [Rath:] So my guess was right - Venus pratyantar as Venus is TENTH

LORD in Saptamsa and aspects the fifth house. Also see the dictum

about Rasi chart Lagna lord in 5th house..first child....

>

> Dreaming of snakes:

> She has 3 malefics in 2 kendras. It should be a sarpa dosha. Can we

confer that the dreaming of snakes were due to the sarpa dosha? This

happened in her Ke-Ra dasa.

> [Rath:] Sarpa yoga - correct JK

>

> Black magic & Preta dosha:

> She becomes adept to black magic due to,

> 1. Ketu and Sat aspecting each other and have connection to 5th

house.

> [Rath:] Ok first pregnancy was miscarriage (ask her if this

miscarriage was FORCED like say abortion).

>

> 2. AL in dual rashi..conjunct with 6L Mer and Ket in 7th behaving

like mars (as Ketu is alone)

> [Rath:] come off it. Loneliness and depression following rejection

in love can make people see things. Preta badhak is far too serious a

thing and if the affliction actually occurs, then there will be

tremendous violence and some terrible physical conditions that beyond

normal description. Split personality and other traits are noticed. i

have witness only one preta badhak till now and also saw the

exorcism. Long time back - durig Sat-Venus period when I was studying

these things.

>

> Now her badhaka lord is Mars..who is also aspecting Sat by rashi

dristi and Ket by graha dristi. This constitutes Preta Badha or the

native is so haunted by spirits. Also combination of Ketu & Mars

causes Preta dosha as well as affliction by spirits.

>

> It may be note here that 7th house is involved in the dosha..and

the dosha got kick started due to problems of 7th house affairs.

> [Rath:] Agreed about this that the 7th house is the cause of the

sarpa entangling her in a terrible mess. During Ketu-Jup she might

have contemplated suicide as well. But then its over now.

>

> Remedy:

> Jup aspects Ketu and Rahu+mars all by rashi dristi and Sat by graha