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Dear Parthasarathyji,

I had given the horoscope only as an example. With 3 Exalted planets there

should , normally be a Rajayoga. Now the jataka did not have it, barring

reflected glory of his father.

The intention was to show that, merely because a planet is exalted, he doesnot

always shower munificence on a Jataka which, incidentally, was the original

thread to which I was responding to. If you have access to Katweji's Yoga

Vichar you will find his opinion about results of Exalted Planets , which are

in line with what Shailesh had expressed.

Chandrashekhar.

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V.partha sarathy

 

Wednesday, May 14, 2003 4:47 PM

[sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] Kendradhipati Dosha

Om Namah ShivayaDear Chandrashekhar jiSuicide is altogether a different subject,

what has exaltation of planets to do with suicideregardsparthaom tat sat--- In

, "Chandrashekhar" <boxdel> wrote:> Dear

Shailesha,> If I may interupt, what you say is, in a way, right. Merely because

a planet is in exaltation does not mean it will shower bounties. Some times the

reverse is the case. If we examine logically what happens, what happen when a

planet is in exaltaion is that it gains strength. Now whether he would be able

to utilise this strength to a Jaataka's benefit will depend on primarily, two

factors. First is whether he becomes a yogakaraka by association or by just

being a yogakaraka and the second is his relation to the Ascendant (whether a

trinal lord lord of square etc.). Shri Katweji in his Yoga Vichar has proposed

that many a times Exalted planets give Kuyogas and Debilated Planets give

Suyogas. He has given horoscope of Lokamanya Bal Gangadhar Tilaks son where

Jupiter Mars and Saturn are exalted with Aquarius rising with Venus Mercury and

Rahu posited there.Sun is in Pisces and Moon in Aries ,he commited suicide by

jumping in front of Poona Mail.> The point here is that mere Planets being

exalted would not shower blessings on a Jataka unless they are placed in right

place and their house lordship is also very important.> Regards,>

Chandrashekhar.> - > Shailesh Chadha > To:

> Tuesday, May 13, 2003 7:19 AM> Subject:

Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] Kendradhipati Dosha> > > || Om

Gurave Namah :: Om Namo Naaraayanaaya ||> > Namaste Ramanarayanan ji &

Lakshmi,> > Thank you for your beatiful explanations. And yet, unfortunately,

I am not fully satisfied.> > It is not to belittle or challenge your views -

only to get a better understanding that I am posing these questions.> > Let

me explain the background of my original doubt.> > In chart reading , we

automatically assume that when a planet is exalted, it will shower lots of

'goodies' on the native - or, let us put it plainly, the planet will be capable

of performing its 'functions' (karakatwa of the bhavas/ rasis owned by it) with

greater power & efficiency, due to its exaltation.> > This is where the doubt

arose in my mind - when a planet is in house of 'enmity/ sickness/

accidents'(6th) or 'disease/ disgrace/ evils' (8th). You have explained the

other signification of 8th house, but that shouldn't one take the *normal*

signification?> > Another line of thought - exaltation of a planet means a

rise in the 'spiritual' significations of the planet - or is it both

'spiritual' as well as 'material'. > > Because if it is the former -

'spiritual' only, then it would be wrong to expect an exalted planet to shower

lots of 'goodies' on the native.> > I suspect my writing is not very clear -

I am still meditating on these points and studying to find my answeres.> >

So, please excuse my rambling. > > Regards & best wishes,> > Shailesh>

- > P.S. RAMANARAYANAN > To:

> Monday, May 12, 2003 8:47 AM>

Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] Kendradhipati Dosha> >

> > > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM JAGAT> > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH> > Dear

Sanjay, Shailesh, Lakshmi and other learned members,> > Namaste. i wanted

to share whatever i know. i may be corrected wherever i am wrong.> > Is

there not a positve side for the 6th and 8th placements? i believe there is a

positive side also. Now let us consider Guru. Guru is the lord of 9th and 12th

of the Kaalpurusha and he excells in the 4th house. He considers 9th house of

the kaalapurusha(Dhanu) as his office/moolatrikona. Now we are trying to

understand his place of excellence with reference to his home(pisces) and

office(Dhanu). Guru excells in the 5th from his home(Pisces) and with respect

to his office the place of excellence is the 8th from it. Generally it is

believed that the planet placed in 8th destroys/damages the concerned reference

point(lagna). There are some other significations of 8th also. Eighth also

signifies 'PARA GYANA' and house of occult studies. Ninth house of

kaalapurusha represents among all other significations, Dharma,Guru & father.

The 8th from 9th is the 4th house(Karka) of the kaalapurusha which is the place

of exaltation of Guru. The tatva represented by Dhanu is 'fire' while the tatva

represented by Karka is water. Viewed from Karka it gives an impression of the

Sun rising from the sea while viewing from Dhanu it gives an impression of Sun

entering the bosom of the sea -"sandhya".We can infer a lot from this;> >

1.Institution of Dharma(9th) are closely linked to pure love oozing out of the

hridaya(4th)/heart.> > 2.It is the Thirumangalya/Mangal sutra(8th) which

brings about the Dharmic institution - marriage which helps in the

maturity/upgradation of man to father(9th) and woman(4th) to mother. Srimata

Lakshmi resides in the heart of the Lord. There is no widowhood to those

individuals who have identified that the lord is their 'Purusha'. They will be

called as Suhasini/Nithya sumangali.> > 3.The Guru(9th) teaches the 8 fold

steps to self-realization.The peak of exaltation rises in the star

"Pushya"(king of all stars) whose presiding deity is Brihaspati.It tantamounts

to identifying the deity within. Is it not a fact that the God sits in the

heart(4th)?> > 4.The 'Dhi' is supposed to be in a state of excellence only

when it transcends/dissolves in 'Samadhi'(8th step) which results when the

'stree/purusha' identification(para gyana) takes place within. When a persons

raises above the deha-atma-buddhi consciousness and establishes in 'samadhi'

(8th) it tantamounts to discarding the body(lagna).> > 5.Srimata holds the

agni stambhana mantra. From the Agni lit up by the Guru in Dhanu Mother comes

out with the Amrita which bestows the native with immortality.When immortality

is gained it means mortality is destroyed.> > 6.For those who find

Patanjali yoga sutras difficult Mantra sastra comes handy. Mantra also leads

to the same goal. This explains the reasons for exaltation of Guru in the 5th

place from pisces.> > Now let us see Venus. Venus lords the 2nd and the

7th and he is exalted in the 12th house of Kaalapurusha. Libra is considered

by Venus as his office while Pisces is considered as the place of

exaltation/place where he excells. Seventh speaks about the relationship. It

is the doorstep from where the individual transacts. Venus has his own house in

earthy tatva(materialistic) and his office in airy(mingling/relations) tatva and

his place of excellence in watery(dissolution of 'I') tatva. > > With

reference to the 2nd house he excells in the 11th house from it which brings

about gains of associates and friends. This gain takes place in the house of

Guru which makes it ever increasing/expanding. What does this mean? This

means, his boundaries of his kutumba are annihilated because of his

identification of himself as a member of 'Vasudeva kutumbha'.> > With

reference to the 7th house he excells in the 6th house from it. Among other

things 6th house placement of lagna lord brings about the 'dhimantah' yoga.

This placement of venus indicates that he excells in fulfilling the promises of

teaching(6th is 10th to 9th house) the realities of life. As an acharya he

helps the students to obtain 'brahmopadesa'(sani) through upanayana(venus has

role to play as regards 'nayana'/eyes)and teaches him the purport of

'arghya'/sacrifice(yagyna/Sukla yajurveda) thereby destroying his primitive

state of understanding/approach to life. Venus is exalted in the star of

Revathi whose presiding deity is Pushan(Sun). Is not Sun dispeller of

darkness/Guru? i believe venus has the capabilities of conferring upon the

individual with lot of Siddhis(siddhamata) because of this unique feature of

excelling in the 6th house. Placement of lord of lagna in 6th indicates

self-posed challenges. If the person concerned is able to win this combat then

he truly is a siddhapurusha.> > Happily/happy to be yours,> >

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