[SJC: Achyuta Gurukul] JH commercial version - Important

May 13, 2003

Dear Narasimha Ji and list,

While, other people's problem with the commercial version of JH may be the

payment, I have a different concern, which is as follows:

You have mentioned that the commercial version of JH uses Machine ID

for verification of key or codes.

This may be very ideal for your purpose of protecting the software

so that it is not shared amongst friends, etc.

However, some of us [i mean people like me who are in IT industry and

also many I know who are just home users] upgrade our personal computers

almost every 3 months.

This means that if we register, say a particular machine ID with you

today, three months down the road, the software would be useless for us as

we would be going for even faster and better version of either Intel or Intel

Celeron processors as well as different versions of Mother Board itself!

The upgradation time may not necessarily be three months, but judging

at my past upgrade schedule, I have changed the mother boards as well as

the processors at least ONCE in 4 months.

In this case, if I were forced to pay US$185 to you every three or

four months, it would be very expensive for me to own the software, even

though I think it is a masterpiece and a much needed tool for our learning

with all the features and dasas.

Well...

Think about the above. In today's fast processor upgrade environment, I would

hardly figure people would be keeping their old machines beyond ONE YEAR.

And I am speaking on behalf of many in North America, Europe and other developed

countries.

So this is one condition and reason, that those of us who want to buy the

professional version of JH; are currently thinking 10 times before doing

so.

P.s.: I could have send this message as personal email to you. However, I

thought it would be appropriate to put it at our list as this may affect

many people like me. Besides, I think there are many other ways to ensure

that people do not exchange the software between friends even without using

the Machine ID variable in your C++ programming, Microsoft Foundation Classes,

or whatever.

With that...

Please convey my best regards to all your loved ones ever and you all take

care too.

Kind regards and best wishes,

Ron Bach

koppejan (AT) inwind (DOT) it wrote:

I would

ask if is possible to send the order for the software via fax using credit

card instead to send a check because I've had some problems with pay pal,

I have wrote two emal without reply.

Many thanks

Andrea Malvagna

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May 13, 2003

Dearest Narasimha

Indeed this point by Ron is the only reason I have not committed to purchase the

software so far.I wish there could be a better way for both parties to be

satisfied.

I'm no expert in software protection tactics.

So I'll wait till i get a PC that I am sure I will be keeping for a long time.

Best wishes

Kasim

>Ron Bach

> >

>Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] JH commercial version - Important >Date:

Tue, 13 May 2003 21:55:11 +0800 > >Dear Narasimha Ji and list, > >While, other

people's problem with the commercial version of JH may >be the payment, I have

a different concern, which is as follows: > > * You have mentioned that the

commercial version of JH uses >Machine > ID for verification of key or codes. *

This may be very >ideal for your purpose of protecting the software > so that it

is not shared amongst friends, etc. * However, >some of us [i mean people like

me who are in IT industry > and also many I know who are just home users]

upgrade our >personal > computers almost every 3 months. * This means that if

we >register, say a particular machine ID with > you today, three months down

the road, the software would be > useless for us as we would be going for even

faster and better > version of either Intel or Intel Celeron processors as well

as > different versions of Mother Board itself! * The >upgradation time may not

necessarily be three months, but > judging at my past upgrade schedule, I have

changed the mother > boards as well as the processors at least ONCE in 4

months. >* In this case, if I were forced to pay US$185 to you every three or >

four months, it would be very expensive for me to own the > software, even

though I think it is a masterpiece and a much > needed tool for our learning

with all the features and dasas. > >Well... > >Think about the above. In

today's fast processor upgrade >environment, I would hardly figure people would

be keeping their old >machines beyond ONE YEAR. And I am speaking on behalf of

many in >North America, Europe and other developed countries. > >So this is one

condition and reason, that those of us who want to >buy the professional version

of JH; are currently thinking 10 times >before doing so. > >P.s.: I could have

send this message as personal email to you. >However, I thought it would be

appropriate to put it at our list as >this may affect many people like me.

Besides, I think there are >many other ways to ensure that people do not

exchange the software >between friends even without using the Machine ID

variable in your >C++ programming, Microsoft Foundation Classes, or whatever. >

>With that... > >Please convey my best regards to all your loved ones ever and

you >all take care too. > >Kind regards and best wishes, > >Ron Bach >

>koppejan (AT) inwind (DOT) it wrote: > >>I would ask if is possible to send the order for

the software via >>fax using credit card instead to send a check because I've

had some >>problems with pay pal, I have wrote two emal without reply. >>

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May 13, 2003

Dear Ron, Narasimha,

With ParasharaLite v.6 I get new password and have to instal software whenever I

change the machine/3 times so far/

Hope this helps

A.

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Ron Bach

Tuesday, May 13, 2003 9:55 AM

Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] JH commercial version - Important

Dear Narasimha Ji and list, While, other people's problem with the commercial

version of JH may be the payment, I have a different concern, which is as

follows:

You have mentioned that the commercial version of JH uses Machine ID for

verification of key or codes. This may be very ideal for your purpose of

protecting the software so that it is not shared amongst friends, etc.

However, some of us [i mean people like me who are in IT industry and also many

I know who are just home users] upgrade our personal computers almost every 3

months. This means that if we register, say a particular machine ID with you

today, three months down the road, the software would be useless for us as we

would be going for even faster and better version of either Intel or Intel

Celeron processors as well as different versions of Mother Board itself! The

upgradation time may not necessarily be three months, but judging at my past

upgrade schedule, I have changed the mother boards as well as the processors at

least ONCE in 4 months. In this case, if I were forced to pay US$185 to you

every three or four months, it would be very expensive for me to own the

software, even though I think it is a masterpiece and a much needed tool for

our learning with all the features and dasas. Well...Think about the above. In

today's fast processor upgrade environment, I would hardly figure people would

be keeping their old machines beyond ONE YEAR. And I am speaking on behalf of

many in North America, Europe and other developed countries. So this is one

condition and reason, that those of us who want to buy the professional version

of JH; are currently thinking 10 times before doing so. P.s.: I could have send

this message as personal email to you. However, I thought it would be

appropriate to put it at our list as this may affect many people like me.

Besides, I think there are many other ways to ensure that people do not

exchange the software between friends even without using the Machine ID

variable in your C++ programming, Microsoft Foundation Classes, or

whatever.With that...Please convey my best regards to all your loved ones ever

and you all take care too. Kind regards and best wishes, Ron Bach

koppejan (AT) inwind (DOT) it wrote:

I would ask if is possible to send the order for the software via fax using

credit card instead to send a check because I've had some problems with pay

pal, I have wrote two emal without reply. Many thanks Andrea Malvagna[Om Kleem

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May 13, 2003

Dear Ron

and Group,

With

respect to your very legitimate concerns below, different reputable software

vendors have now finally

come up with a few new working solutions to these problems. So I just assumed

that Narasimha and JHora are also

going to implement something similar…(Hope I’m not wrong!

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For

example - Shri Jyoti Star now has

a Members Sign In and Password Verification

(on Andrew’s website) to quickly receive your new ID, Goravani Jyotish has a Code Letter

in a specific area that can be

accessed to quickly receive a new activation, Parashara’s

Light gives your first ID code (based on you machine code) immediately online

(for the newly released

PL6), and a phone number that can be accessed 5 or 6 days a week and is

answered immediately to receive a

new code or a code for your second machine (or you may email them and

they are usually very quick to respond), MagiSoft

requires you to call with your Member Number

and Identification to activate a

code for your new machine, while Solar Fire

5 has full trust and no piracy concerns

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So none of

the reputable vendors (above) requires you to purchase

a new program each time you change machines…hopefully JHora will be the same,

as I already ordered mine without any concerns given to what you have mentioned

– figuring there will be a reasonable way to resolve these issues in JHora

also…Hopefully

I’m right…

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Ron Bach

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Tuesday, May 13, 2003 9:55

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Re: [sJC: Achyuta

Gurukul] JH commercial version - Important

Dear

Narasimha Ji and list,

While, other people's problem with the commercial version of JH may be the

payment, I have a different concern, which is as follows: