RE: [SJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Achyuta Gurukul] Kendradhipati Dosha

May 9, 2003

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Shailesh,

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rajasik planet. The three satvik planets are Jupiter, Sun and Moon.

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bold">Thank you Vishwanadham - but that was not my query.

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bold">Perhaps the fault lies with the way I framed the query.

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bold">The doubt is - a planet in 6/8th from its own Rasi harms that Rasi/

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bold">On the other hand, the two Satvic planets, JU & VE get exalted in

such a position from the Rasis owned by them [ VEN in 6th from LIB & JUP in

8th from SAG].

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bold">Taking your logic, do these two celestial gurus happier while damaging

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bold">That is why I thought that there has to be a deeper meaning.

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> Hare Rama Krishna

>

> Dear Shaileshji,

>

> Jupiter gets exalted in 8th from Sagittarius. Also it is their (Venus

> & Jupiter) Moolatrikona signs from where they are exalted in dustanas.

>

> As Gurus they both get exalted in Moksh trikona, in watery signs, of

> the natural Zodiac. Probably it is the relation between their office

> work & their choice work(which gives real happiness),I think.

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> I know it is sketchy, but that is how far i could go.

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> regards

> viswanadham

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> > Namaste,

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> > A small doubt - VEN gets exalted in 6th from its sign LIB & JUP

> gets exalted in 6th from its sign SAG - not so for others!!

> >

> > Any deeper meaning in it??

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> > Regards & best wishes,

> >

> > Shailesh

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> > > Dear Visti,

> > > Interesting mail. Just out of curiosity for the little

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> > > with liver problems from birth, Venus in 6th in own sign .. it

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> > > have Ashtkavarga bindus less than 4.

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May 11, 2003

Dear Lakshmi

Very informative mail....thanks

humbly

Tushankur

B Lakshmi Ramesh [b_lakshmi_ramesh]

Sun 5/11/2003 9:04 AM

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[sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] Kendradhipati Dosha

Om Gurave Namah

Hi Shailesh,

For judging exaltations, perhaps you need to take the "own house" of

a planet into account more than its moolatrikona, because "own house"

of a planet reflects or reveals the true tattwa, karakatwa and

preferences of the planet more than its moolatrikona, where the

planet an official role to play. In its moolatrikona, a planet might

have more power and authority vested in it, but nonetheless it is

definitely not totally at home.

Now, talking about exaltations, Leo is the own as well as

moolatrikona of Sun, and Aries, the seat of his exaltation is the 9th

house from Leo, indicating that "Dharma" is the primary nature of Sun

and he's very much a karaka for 9H.

From Moon's own house, Cancer, Taurus is the 11th house, indicating

Moon as the ultimate social planet, the "ajatha shatru", whose growth

is the highest in the last upachaya from its home.

From Scorpio, Mars's exaltation is in the 3rd house, and its common

knowledge that Mars is a karaka for 3H.

Take, Mercury, who is basically a kid and the model student and his

exaltation is naturally in the 4H, indicating mother and education

(for which he's again a karaka), from his own house, Gemini.

Jupiter is exalted in the 5H (Cancer) from his own house, and I am

sure this needs no further explanation. However, it's interesting to

note the mutual exaltation of Sun (owner of natural 5H, Leo- exalted

in 9H from his home) and Jupiter (owner of natural 9H, Sagittarius â€“

exalted in 5H from his home). This is yet again may be another

pointer that when Sun and Jupiter are strong, they give out similar

results, and that's why perhaps there's no separate Mahapurusha

yoga for Sun. Remember, Sun is also called the "Hamsa" and his

natural abode is the Sahasraara.

Venus is exalted in the 11th house from its home and since Venus is

also a social planet and is concerned with "gains", and since Moon

also rules "auspiciousness" , perhaps a strong Moon gives out results

akin to Malavya Mahapurusha Yoga ?

If the above is true, the riddle of Sri Krishna's chart not having

any Mahapurusha yogas is fully solved, because with a strong Moon in

Lagna and a strong Sun in 4H, he's both a Malavya and Hamsa

Mahapurusha. I remember puzzling over this issue with Sanjayji and

Visti, during Hyderabad conference and saying that of all the

Mahapurusha Yogas, Sri Krishna, with His great Love and compassion

amply qualifies for Malavya Mahapurusha. And, if the Jagatguru does

not have Hamsa yoga, who else can have?

Saturn's exaltation is in 10H from his home and his association

with "karma bhava", I guess, needs no further explanation.

Ketu, owning scorpio, is exalted in the 12H (Moksha) from home

(Sagittarius counted in reverse) and Rahu is exalted in Gemini, 9H

(!) from his home, Aquarius, counted again in the reverse. Ofcourse,

his trying to ape/eclipse Sun and Jupiter is legendary, and his

negative influence on Dharma is unmistakable. But then, he also can

lead one to the God as Sri Ramakrishna's chart demonstrates.

Any comments? All are welcome.

Regards,

Lakshmi

P.S: Shailesh, 6/8 positions are generally bad, unless the planet is

involved in a yoga. For example, my Moon is in 6H / 8H from its own

house / moolatrikona, but my Chandradasa was fantastic...and Sanjayji

said that it's because Moon is involved in Gajakesari yoga in my

chart.

, "Shailesh Chadha" <scc@s...>

wrote:

> || Om Gurave Namah :: Om Namo Naaraayanaaya ||

>

> Namaste,

>

> Thank you Vishwanadham - but that was not my query.

>

> Perhaps the fault lies with the way I framed the query.

>

> The doubt is - a planet in 6/8th from its own Rasi harms that Rasi/

Bhava.

>

> On the other hand, the two Satvic planets, JU & VE get exalted in

such a position from the Rasis owned by them [ VEN in 6th from LIB &

JUP in 8th from SAG].

>

> Taking your logic, do these two celestial gurus happier while

damaging their own "moolatrikona rasi".

>

> That is why I thought that there has to be a deeper meaning.

>

> With sincere regards & best wishes,

>

> Shailesh

>

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May 11, 2003

SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM JAGAT

AUM GURUBYO NAMAH

Dear Sanjay, Shailesh, Lakshmi and other learned members,

Namaste. i wanted to share whatever i know. i may be corrected wherever i am wrong.

Is there not a positve side for the 6th and 8th placements? i believe there is

a positive side also. Now let us consider Guru. Guru is the lord of 9th and

12th of the Kaalpurusha and he excells in the 4th house. He considers 9th

house of the kaalapurusha(Dhanu) as his office/moolatrikona. Now we are trying

to understand his place of excellence with reference to his home(pisces) and

office(Dhanu). Guru excells in the 5th from his home(Pisces) and with respect

to his office the place of excellence is the 8th from it. Generally it is

believed that the planet placed in 8th destroys/damages the concerned reference

point(lagna). There are some other significations of 8th also. Eighth also

signifies 'PARA GYANA' and house of occult studies. Ninth house of

kaalapurusha represents among all other significations, Dharma,Guru & father.

The 8th from 9th is the 4th house(Karka) of the kaalapurusha which is the place

of exaltation of Guru. The tatva represented by Dhanu is 'fire' while the tatva

represented by Karka is water. Viewed from Karka it gives an impression of the

Sun rising from the sea while viewing from Dhanu it gives an impression of Sun

entering the bosom of the sea - "sandhya".We can infer a lot from this;

1.Institution of Dharma(9th) are closely linked to pure love oozing out of the hridaya(4th)/heart.

2.It is the Thirumangalya/Mangal sutra(8th) which brings about the Dharmic

institution - marriage which helps in the maturity/upgradation of man to

father(9th) and woman(4th) to mother. Srimata Lakshmi resides in the heart of

the Lord. There is no widowhood to those individuals who have identified that

the lord is their 'Purusha'. They will be called as Suhasini/Nithya sumangali.

3.The Guru(9th) teaches the 8 fold steps to self-realization.The peak of

exaltation rises in the star "Pushya"(king of all stars) whose presiding deity

is Brihaspati.It tantamounts to identifying the deity within. Is it not a fact

that the God sits in the heart(4th)?

4.The 'Dhi' is supposed to be in a state of excellence only when it

transcends/dissolves in 'Samadhi'(8th step) which results when the

'stree/purusha' identification(para gyana) takes place within. When a persons

raises above the deha-atma-buddhi consciousness and establishes in 'samadhi'

(8th) it tantamounts to discarding the body(lagna).

5.Srimata holds the agni stambhana mantra. From the Agni lit up by the Guru in

Dhanu Mother comes out with the Amrita which bestows the native with

immortality.When immortality is gained it means mortality is destroyed.

6.For those who find Patanjali yoga sutras difficult Mantra sastra comes handy.

Mantra also leads to the same goal. This explains the reasons for exaltation of

Guru in the 5th place from pisces.

Now let us see Venus. Venus lords the 2nd and the 7th and he is exalted in the

12th house of Kaalapurusha. Libra is considered by Venus as his office while

Pisces is considered as the place of exaltation/place where he excells.

Seventh speaks about the relationship. It is the doorstep from where the

individual transacts. Venus has his own house in earthy tatva(materialistic)

and his office in airy(mingling/relations) tatva and his place of excellence in

watery(dissolution of 'I') tatva.

With reference to the 2nd house he excells in the 11th house from it which

brings about gains of associates and friends. This gain takes place in the

house of Guru which makes it ever increasing/expanding. What does this mean?

This means, his boundaries of his kutumba are annihilated because of his

identification of himself as a member of 'Vasudeva kutumbha'.

With reference to the 7th house he excells in the 6th house from it. Among

other things 6th house placement of lagna lord brings about the 'dhimantah'

yoga. This placement of venus indicates that he excells in fulfilling the

promises of teaching(6th is 10th to 9th house) the realities of life. As an

acharya he helps the students to obtain 'brahmopadesa'(sani) through

upanayana(venus has role to play as regards 'nayana'/eyes)and teaches him the

purport of 'arghya'/sacrifice(yagyna/Sukla yajurveda) thereby destroying his

primitive state of understanding/approach to life. Venus is exalted in the star

of Revathi whose presiding deity is Pushan(Sun). Is not Sun dispeller of

darkness/Guru? i believe venus has the capabilities of conferring upon the

individual with lot of Siddhis(siddhamata) because of this unique feature of

excelling in the 6th house. Placement of lord of lagna in 6th indicates

self-posed challenges. If the person concerned is able to win this combat then

he truly is a siddhapurusha.

Happily/happy to be yours,

psramanrayanan

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Dear Ramanarayanan

Namaskar

very symbolic & educative mail.

Humbly

Tushankur

P.S. RAMANARAYANAN [p_s_ramanarayanan]

Mon 5/12/2003 8:47 AM

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Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] Kendradhipati Dosha

SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM JAGAT

AUM GURUBYO NAMAH

Dear Sanjay, Shailesh, Lakshmi and other learned members,

Namaste. i wanted to share whatever i know. i may be corrected wherever i am

wrong.

Is there not a positve side for the 6th and 8th placements? i believe there is

a positive side also. Now let us consider Guru. Guru is the lord of 9th and

12th of the Kaalpurusha and he excells in the 4th house. He considers 9th house

of the kaalapurusha(Dhanu) as his office/moolatrikona. Now we are trying to

understand his place of excellence with reference to his home(pisces) and

office(Dhanu). Guru excells in the 5th from his home(Pisces) and with respect

to his office the place of excellence is the 8th from it. Generally it is

believed that the planet placed in 8th destroys/damages the concerned reference

point(lagna). There are some other significations of 8th also. Eighth also

signifies 'PARA GYANA' and house of occult studies. Ninth house of kaalapurusha

represents among all other significations, Dharma,Guru & father. The 8th from

9th is the 4th house(Karka) of the kaalapurusha which is the place of exaltation

of Guru. The tatva represented by Dhanu is 'fire' while the tatva represented by

Karka is water. Viewed from Karka it gives an impression of the Sun rising from

the sea while viewing from Dhanu it gives an impression of Sun entering the

bosom of the sea - "sandhya".We can infer a lot from this;

1.Institution of Dharma(9th) are closely linked to pure love oozing out of the

hridaya(4th)/heart.