Achyuta Gurukul] Achyuta Gurukul] part II of Trouble with the house of brothers

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Hello Visti

 

thank you for your reply and sorry for my late answer but we had visitors and

concentration was difficult.

I have tried to follow your leads and have added below.

Thank you as well for the advice of reading a chart while Jupiter is in Lagna.

As it takes me with my little knowledge more than 2 days to research I have

problems to limit this to 1h35min. Could you please clarify what you mean by

that. Does it say to start with Jupiter in Lagna or just to avoid Rahu Saturn

and may be Mars there.

And please just let´s call it my first "solo flight". I was nervous enough to

send it to the list.

 

I have met the Lady in the meantime and have added the actual manifestations in green.

 

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Visti Larsen

 

Monday, May 05, 2003 12:54 AM

[sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] part II of Trouble with the house of brothers

Hare Rama Krishna

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Dear Marcus,

I have some comments for your free-flight analysis.

Please next time try to analyse charts during the day-time, preferably when Guru

is in Lagna.. avoid Rahu Kaal. Also be clear of what your analysing.

 

 

The native is born on Sukla Shasti Tithi, which is lorded by Venus. For such

people it is important to worship Lord Shiva to avoid falling to the base

sexual desires.

 

At first glance, the Lagna lord and 2nd Lord are placed in the 3rd house. This

causes a very promixious native and also a very daring person.

The native will be very sexually oriented, and due to 2nd lord here, may earn

through such activities.

But to be sure of such accusations, we must look at the 9th house and 7th house.

 

Dharma:

The 9th house is Libra surrounded by a Papakartari Yoga, which would show alot

of tension in following the right path in life. The native has lord-Venus and

Mars in Libra, and this definitely sets the scene for a fall in morals which

could lead to some of the lower types of occupations in life.

 

Kalatra:

The 7th house is unoccupied, whilst the 7th lord Sun is in the 10th house

forming Jara Yoga - Or Yoga for illicit relations.. marital prospects suffer

greatly due to this.

 

I have given some more comments in your analysis below.

 

Best wishesVisti

SA in debilitation and weak in Shad Bala would indicate health problems and weak constitution.

Especially in the time of SA mahadasa from 38 to 57. Dasa at birth was MA,SA.

Both MA and Saturn are very weak in Shad bala.

 

The native was for 3 months in the incubator and was during the whole time not seen by the mother.

Father had to pick her up as she survived. She was never welcome and has severe

depressions from this memory.

 

By studying the Bhava Padas 8-11. Pada and finance we see that wealth will come

through both, questionable and virtuous means but will make the native happy

and rich through many planets both mal. and ben. involved. Earnings will be

balancing the expenses as well. As the 12th from AL is aspected by Mars those

gains are interrupted. Expenses through brother of native as Mars is

significator for brother. Jupiter is aspecting the 7th from AL. this says the

native will be wealthy, as by aspect only mediocre result will come.

Sarvath Chintamani 4-83 The native will get property from the father.

 

The native is living on the doll but has inherited some property from the

father. She is working as social worker and heavily involved in protection of

forest and birds and replanting on voluntary base. This way she works for her

living.

 

It is highly likely that there are brothers and in special a younger brother as well.

 

Visti: You need to give the reason. The 3rd/11th from Arudha Lagna will help

reveal the native's birth status, i.e. are they the eldest, youngest, etc. The

principles are given in BPHS and Jaimini's Upadesa Sutras. You will also be

able to spot this in Uttara Kalamrita, but the 2 former will suffice.

 

31. If in the 3rd/11th from AL there is Saturn he is destroyer of brothers 11th

elder brother. 3rd (by aspect only) younger brother.

32. If in the 3rd/11th from AL there is Venus there will be an abortion to the

mother earlier.(by aspect only)

33-36. Jupiter in 11th from AL and Mars by aspect indicates that there will be

many valorous brothers. but in special there will be a younger brother.

 

SA in 3 could indicate that this younger brother has problems or has something

to do with the past karma.

 

Visti: Really? Who doesn't? I would guess that we have special agreements

with certain souls to fulfil our karma. Not everybody around us can have the

same intense relation. Shani in 3rd house and debilitated with mutual graha

dristi with Mars can indicate death of co-borns. Jupiters presence is however a

saving one.. also analyse this from Arudha Lagna.

 

Presence of Saturn and aspect from Mars results in both, younger and elder

brother will be destroyed.

As above.

 

There has been a twin sister and a younger brother with one abortion prior to

the 3. The younger brother was never wanted but abortion or attempts to stop

pregnancy failed and he had to go through hell. He left family with approx 14

and never contacted anybody from his family again except the native concerned.

They have a strange relation to each other but she prays for him every day.

 

A troubled father and also mother (aspect from SA+ MA) are obvious.

 

Visti: Be clear. Why is the mother & father troubled? 4th lord is in the 9th

house and joined 10th lord Mars.. Sarvath Chintamani talks about this

combination, i will not say anything about this.

Mother to be read from the 4th house and MO. Lord of 4 is strong will give long life to the mother.

Associated with Ma will make her very fiery and aggressive.

JU in 4th from MO according to Mansagari deprives the native from comforts at

home and leads to trouble with mother.

 

4-83 The native will get property from the father.

4-105 If the 4th lord is in between malefics and associated with malefic the native will be sinful.

9-11 Mars in 9th conjoint with lord of 9 the native becomes sinful.

Reading along it states (27)the parents are good moral people, (17) shows

trouble for the father, (40)

and makes the native engaged in meditation.

 

The natives father was a good moral person but not strong enough to stand against his wife.

As the native assures the mother was the destroyer of the family.

 

Now taking this résumé away from the Brother and reading the 3rd house as

interest, hobby and friends, we could assume that the interest of the native

and contact and friends have brought this sorrow to the parents.

 

Visti: Yes, see what Parasara says about 2nd lord in 3rd house. Maithuna Bhava.

The native will be valorous, wise, virtuous, wise, lustful and miserly.

One will be devoid of relatives

 

The play between MA, VE and SA, JU are to be seen in all varga charts up to

Dashamsa. This could say that relationship, children success and career were

influenced by this decision. JU states in D3 lost and drawn to wrong decisions.

 

Visti: Are we talking about siblings or not? Sorry for being unclear but I

meant decision concerning relationship or choice of partner. Rahu is Lagna lord

and placed in the 8th house. This shows that the native is working against their

own ideals, and doing so fully consciously. The dispositor of Rahu shows how

this affects her life, as this is Mercury placed in the 10th involved in a Jara

Yoga with Sun.. this is also in Darapada. Atleast she had fun! It was due to a

boy(s).

 

Why do you see RA as lagnalord instead of SA.

If one of the above lords is with (associated in the same sign) a larger number

of planets, then he is stronger. This rule applied would make SA Lagnalord.

The Native was born in a MA Mahadasa and followed by RA was surely opposing the

parents. Association with undesirable characters with some illegal involvement

could be seen.

 

Followed by JU Mahadasa the chance to have children come up. JU exalted in Lagna

in D7 brings expansion and indicates birth of child and with MA exalted in 7

clearly a good sign for progeny. I forgot to mention during Antardasa

 

Visti: Mars is definitely not good for Progeny. Sun and Mars are agni Tattwa,

and deny fertility and also cause problems for the mother (Jala Tattva-Moon &

Venus). Hence Sun or Mars' presence in 5th can causes miscarriages. But it

doesn't mean that Mars cannot bring children in his Antar Dasa, actually this

is very likely for any planets in the 7th from Jup, during Jup Maha Dasa... the

basis is Pachakadi Sambandha. With Mars exalted, it shows great enjoyment with

scars to remember it.

 

But jet again. SA conjoining JU and influencing Mind and MA in 7 has his say.

If I draw my aspect lines it looks like in amongst his quarrel with the 7th

house he is shooting to the side and hits the SU (father) in 3.

 

Visti: Do you feel thats the right way to understand dristi? This must have

been the negative influence of Rahu Kaal and the late hours. Sorry!

 

SA in Navamsa in 5, Lord of 8 in Lagna in D7 and Mandi/ Gulika in Rasi Lagna

with SA in its fall could indicate difficulties with the child, or even loss of

child.

 

Visti: 9th lord shows the first child for even lagna, lord Jupiter is joined

Saturn, causing a Yoga for dead children at birth, or stillborn.

 

During SA dasa she tried to get pregnant without result and during JU,MA dasa she had an abortion.

 

SA Mahadasa from 38 till 57 will then bring a time of difficulties. Health

problems would occur within this time.

 

Visti: As Shani is in Lagna in d7, it is Marana Karaka Sthana and one can

expect alot of health problems arising from children/childbirth.

 

Saturn has established his influence in mental depressions, fear and panic.

Especially during his Mahadasa. The health constitution seems very robust.

Forrest worker.

 

ME Mahadasa should now be the best time in the life of the native.

Seen from the Navamsa ME in Cancer shows a weak constitution and some persistent family problems

but otherwise keeps the mind active and likes to travel.

Visti: is that so? are u sure?

If you ask like that, not any more.

Me creates problems to establish a bridge between reality of life and visionary ideals.

Problems with siblings and weak health. Health is no issue but depressions are

very present As Lord of 6 and 3 Me will surely cause health issues to continue.

On the other side he is conjunct Sun which indicates intelligence and strong

will.

 

The native has intense desire to write about her life and to express her learning into a book.

She is participating in several silent retreats and searches peace in meditation.

 

The Raja Yoga in 9 Rasi should come to bare some of the load and would give the

native great success in spiritual matters. Spiritual pursuit a firm

concentration, meditation are indicated from this Yoga.

KE exalted in 8 Scorpio in Navamsa influences ME and will address thoughts and

speech towards spiritual matters. Ketu himself shapes an occultist engaged in

arduous esoteric practices.

 

SU in 9 Navamsa gives an increase of fire and are moved by the urge for

humanitarian upliftment. No sacrifice is too great to achieve this end. The

personality will be made of steel. You will succeed in transforming your life

radically, acquiring all the attributes needed for the spiritual journey-though

you will need to wait for another incarnation to embark on such an expedition.

 

In all varga charts the MO is heavily troubled. this would explain why he, as

Atma karaka is in a house of Moksha (liberation of the mind from the mundane

world) It shows that the soul would like to leave all this worldly trouble

behind.

 

All in all this chart shows a mix of good and bad influences always coupled with

a smile as it hurts and a tear of joy. Hope this is proper English.

 

I will continue with this chart but spare you all with my further findings.

I hope I have not troubled anyone by putting such a long essay into the list and

would be very happy to hear some feedback. Especially concerning those two teams

playing against each other in 3 and 9.

 

 

Visti: Please study more charts, and be more specific in what ur analysing in

the chart.

 

Be assured I will not give up but continue with great effort.

Thank you for the directions.

 

Best wishes to you all

Marcus

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