RE: [Vedavyasa] [SJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Please note-

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Dear Brendan,

 

I

was not going to speak or write anymore on spiritual things as far as these

lists are concerned, but thank you for echoing what is in my heart, and for

speaking the language of pure bhakti and love, and of reminding us of Him, for

we forget Him again and again and again…that is when pramana, logic, the

intellect and the ego steps in.

 

Best

regards,

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[Vedavyasa] Re: [sJC:

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Eastern Daylight Time, sriram.nayak (AT) oracle (DOT) com writes:

Jaya

Jagannatha

Dear

Sriram,

I have

avoided sharing my views up till now, but your words touched me in a way that

made an opening for me to speak.

You gave us a lovely place to put things. How can ignorant souls argue about

God and His eternal nature? Surely it is all His leela,

whether Shiva, Ganesh, Vishnu, etc. In my opinion it is fine for Lord Chaitanya

or any of the Great Acharyas to "argue" on the scriptures and the

supremacy of His path. We are devotees and we all take the path that He has

ordained for us. Even those who ignore Him are His devotees. Even those who

commit all the transgressions belong to Him and will turn their mind to Him

when he ordains that.

If we

are on the "wrong" path and have "wrong" understanding,

then one day the correct teaching will come to us because of purity of heart

and not from intellectual knowledge.

In the

meantime, we should humbly do as you so beautifully put it. "Let the Lord

grant Gyana, Bhakti and Vairagya to the devotees... " and forgive all of

us for our ignorance. These arguments reminds me of the fragile human condition

when it comes to religion. We are capable of acts of violence against one

another in the name of God and this has always made me very sad. We use God's

name to promote our own cause but what is the psychology behind that kind of

behavior?

We do

this out of ignorance and not out of supreme knowledge. We do it out of ego

distortion and not out of understanding.

When I

became a Krishna bhakta, I had found the ultimate philosophy from my own point

of view and I became a little judgmental of other paths... thinking they were

lesser. I soon learned that this was wrong and this was arrogance. God is

taking care of all of us and manifests in our lives in a way that is perfect

for us in our journey. We don't have a clue. We are clueless when it come to

God. We are very ignorant and all our scriptural quotes do not change us one

bit or make us more holy.

I have often thought that a person who has chosen to walk this life as an

atheist

must be a very courageous soul. Can you imagine? And can this happen without

His ordination? I think not. We do not know the lessons so how can we know the

answers.

I am very happy that He is knowable and unknowable. The times in my life when I

though I knew the answers, even according to some scripture, I was most

impoverished. It was ego and intellectual knowledge. The intellect is like a

parrot. It keeps repeating the same old thing.... heartless words.

I prefer the path of the heart for surely that is where He is to be found,

where He is to be experienced.

It is the only knowledge I trust anymore and that knowledge is hard to put into

words. He is not to be found in words but kind words, words that describe His

leelas, bring us all closer to Him and awaken the heart. Harsh words make us

defensive and angry and then we can be sure that He is not present.

Regards,

Brendan

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have offended anyone, directly or indirectly, with my views on Shiva/Vishnu,

forgiveness is hereby solicited.

Let the Lord grant Gyana, Bhakti and Vairagya to the devotees...

Namaskaars..

sriram nayak

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