[SJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Kendradhipati Dosha

May 5, 2003

Dear Visti Jee,

I have two questions though -

1. You have said that a lord of kendra devoid of Trikona association will suffer

from this dosha. here by the term "Trikona association" do you mean that they

will have to lord over a trikona (1, 5, 9) necessarily, or only placed in asc /

5th / 9th or joining with these lords suffices this condition of association

with trikona?

2. This is clear that natural benefics suffer from this dosha. Will natural

malefics such as saturn, sun, mars etc will also suffer from this

dosha?Regards,Tanvir

"What can not happen, can never happen.Which is mine, is forever mine."

Tanvir

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Visti Larsen

Tuesday, May 06, 2003 2:34 AM

[sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Kendradhipati Dosha

Hare Rama Krishna

--------------------

Dear List,

The definition of Kendradhipati Dosha is now being given anew.

Kendradhipati means lord of Kendra's and its said that planets lording Kendra's

devoid of Trikona association causes Kendradhipati Dosha.

Now the propper reasoning and definition is important for otherwise even clever

Jyotishas will go wrong and proclaim all sorts of results for Kendradhipati

Dosha.

The 4 quadrant-houses - viz. Lagna, 10th, 7th and 4th, represent the 4 Gayatris,

or 4 times of prayer, namely; Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva and Kali Gayatri

respectively occuring at Sunrise, Midday, Sunset and Midnight respectively.

Among these 4 houses, the 10th house is also an Upachaya house (3,6,10,11),

showing that the 10th house is the MOST powerful house and has the greatest

importance in ensuring our GROWTH in this world. This growth stems from

actions, and the 10th house is the seat of our Indriyas from which ALL actions

resonate from.

Now the 10th house is a trine to the 2nd and 6th houses, hence going by the name

- Artha trikona, or that which will sustain us in this world, and hence the 10th

house is the MOST important house in the chart, working to sustain us and make

us grow in this world!

Hence; among the 4 quadrants the 10th house of Vishnu Gayatri becomes the most

powerful and the quadrants to it are the pillars of the natives life, all

working to support the 10th house.. For this reason the Kendra's are called

VISHNU STHANA.

Now what is the use of all this work and actions if there are no fruits? The

Midday is the peak of the workday where there is most activity and where the

worship of Vishnu is the highest! But if Lakshmi is not there then the work

will carry NO FRUITS, and this is the TRUE definition of Kendradhipati Dosha!

The Bhavas causing the blessings of Lakshmi are the 5th and 9th houses, and

shows when the work/worship will carry fruits, or when they will be useless.

This is the principles of creative power.

Hence; whenever a Kendra lord (especially the 10th lord) is not associated with

trikona sign or lord, theres Kendradhipati Dosha and the fruits of labour are

not reaped, and allthough the native puts in great effort, they suffer terrible

distress due to lack of acknowledgement for their actions.

There is one exception to this rule however. If the planet is lord of Lagna,

then there is no Kendradhipati Dosha, as how could your birth occur if you were

not created? Hence a planet lording the Lagna, is by nature both a Kendra and

Trikona lord.

The definition should be clear now.

Jaya Jagannatha!

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

May 5, 2003

Hare Rama Krishna

-----------------------

Dear Tanvir and Sarajit, Namaste.

1. You have said that a lord of kendra devoid of Trikona association will suffer

from this dosha. here by the term "Trikona association" do you mean that they

will have to lord over a trikona (1, 5, 9) necessarily, or only placed in asc /

5th / 9th or joining with these lords suffices this condition of association

with trikona?

Visti:

lord of a kendra;

i) lords a trine.

ii) joins a trine.

iii) joins a trinal lord.

iv) has sambandha with a trinal lord.

Such an association with make the planet Yoga Karaka. Hence Yoga Karaka is not

limited to lordship of a Kendra and Trikona.

2. This is clear that natural benefics suffer from this dosha. Will natural

malefics such as saturn, sun, mars etc will also suffer from this dosha?

Visti: This is understood in the principle of the Upachaya Sthana, where

growth is the focal point and lords of Upachaya Sthana (excepting 10th lord),

are deemed malefic-results.

The reason stems from the nature of growth. The tree grows roots, and needs more

water, more room and more attention from the Sun, hence obstructing other plants

and tree's from doing the same. Hence Malefics do not suffer under this Dosha as

they are able to change their surroundings at their will, whilst Benefics who by

nature are soft and nurturing will not do so and as a result confer destruction

on their own house, just as a pious person wavors away the desire todo any type

of evil, at the consequence of loosing home, reputation and etc.

Hence the lordship and natural traits of the planet become understood through this.

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

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Tanvir

Tuesday, May 06, 2003 3:35 AM

Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Kendradhipati Dosha

Dear Visti Jee,

I have two questions though -

1. You have said that a lord of kendra devoid of Trikona association will suffer

from this dosha. here by the term "Trikona association" do you mean that they

will have to lord over a trikona (1, 5, 9) necessarily, or only placed in asc /

5th / 9th or joining with these lords suffices this condition of association

with trikona?

2. This is clear that natural benefics suffer from this dosha. Will natural

malefics such as saturn, sun, mars etc will also suffer from this

dosha?Regards,Tanvir

"What can not happen, can never happen.Which is mine, is forever mine."

Tanvir

Chowdhurytanvir (AT) siriusbb (DOT) com http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvirhttp://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro

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Visti Larsen

Tuesday, May 06, 2003 2:34 AM

[sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Kendradhipati Dosha

Hare Rama Krishna

--------------------

Dear List,

The definition of Kendradhipati Dosha is now being given anew.

Kendradhipati means lord of Kendra's and its said that planets lording Kendra's

devoid of Trikona association causes Kendradhipati Dosha.

Now the propper reasoning and definition is important for otherwise even clever

Jyotishas will go wrong and proclaim all sorts of results for Kendradhipati

Dosha.

The 4 quadrant-houses - viz. Lagna, 10th, 7th and 4th, represent the 4 Gayatris,

or 4 times of prayer, namely; Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva and Kali Gayatri

respectively occuring at Sunrise, Midday, Sunset and Midnight respectively.

Among these 4 houses, the 10th house is also an Upachaya house (3,6,10,11),

showing that the 10th house is the MOST powerful house and has the greatest

importance in ensuring our GROWTH in this world. This growth stems from

actions, and the 10th house is the seat of our Indriyas from which ALL actions

resonate from.

Now the 10th house is a trine to the 2nd and 6th houses, hence going by the name

- Artha trikona, or that which will sustain us in this world, and hence the 10th

house is the MOST important house in the chart, working to sustain us and make

us grow in this world!

Hence; among the 4 quadrants the 10th house of Vishnu Gayatri becomes the most

powerful and the quadrants to it are the pillars of the natives life, all

working to support the 10th house.. For this reason the Kendra's are called

VISHNU STHANA.

Now what is the use of all this work and actions if there are no fruits? The

Midday is the peak of the workday where there is most activity and where the

worship of Vishnu is the highest! But if Lakshmi is not there then the work

will carry NO FRUITS, and this is the TRUE definition of Kendradhipati Dosha!

The Bhavas causing the blessings of Lakshmi are the 5th and 9th houses, and

shows when the work/worship will carry fruits, or when they will be useless.

This is the principles of creative power.

Hence; whenever a Kendra lord (especially the 10th lord) is not associated with

trikona sign or lord, theres Kendradhipati Dosha and the fruits of labour are

not reaped, and allthough the native puts in great effort, they suffer terrible

distress due to lack of acknowledgement for their actions.

There is one exception to this rule however. If the planet is lord of Lagna,

then there is no Kendradhipati Dosha, as how could your birth occur if you were

not created? Hence a planet lording the Lagna, is by nature both a Kendra and

Trikona lord.

The definition should be clear now.

Jaya Jagannatha!

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

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May 5, 2003

Jaya Jagannath

Dear Visti,

You wrote:

"This is understood in the principle of the Upachaya Sthana, where

growth is the focal point and lords of Upachaya Sthana (excepting 10th

lord), are deemed malefic-results."

Sarajit:

Why lords of Upachaya Sthana (excepting 10th lord), are deemed malefic-

results?

With your reasoning, the malefics lording the Upachayas should also

deemed to be benefics as they also contribute to growth (upachayas).

Why only 10th house?

Best Wishes

Sarajit

>

> Hare Rama Krishna

> -----------------------

> Dear Tanvir and Sarajit, Namaste.

>

> 1. You have said that a lord of kendra devoid of Trikona association

will suffer from this dosha. here by the term "Trikona association" do

you mean that they will have to lord over a trikona (1, 5, 9)

necessarily, or only placed in asc / 5th / 9th or joining with these

lords suffices this condition of association with trikona?

>

> Visti:

> lord of a kendra;

> i) lords a trine.

> ii) joins a trine.

> iii) joins a trinal lord.

> iv) has sambandha with a trinal lord.

> Such an association with make the planet Yoga Karaka. Hence Yoga

Karaka is not limited to lordship of a Kendra and Trikona.

>

> 2. This is clear that natural benefics suffer from this dosha. Will

natural malefics such as saturn, sun, mars etc will also suffer from

this dosha?

>

> Visti: This is understood in the principle of the Upachaya Sthana,

where growth is the focal point and lords of Upachaya Sthana (excepting

10th lord), are deemed malefic-results.

> The reason stems from the nature of growth. The tree grows roots, and

needs more water, more room and more attention from the Sun, hence

obstructing other plants and tree's from doing the same. Hence Malefics

do not suffer under this Dosha as they are able to change their

surroundings at their will, whilst Benefics who by nature are soft and

nurturing will not do so and as a result confer destruction on their

own house, just as a pious person wavors away the desire todo any type

of evil, at the consequence of loosing home, reputation and etc.

> Hence the lordship and natural traits of the planet become understood

through this.

>

> Best wishes

> Visti

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> Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org

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>

> Tuesday, May 06, 2003 3:35 AM

> Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Kendradhipati Dosha

>

> Dear Visti Jee,

> I have two questions though -

>

> 1. You have said that a lord of kendra devoid of Trikona

association will suffer from this dosha. here by the term "Trikona

association" do you mean that they will have to lord over a trikona (1,

5, 9) necessarily, or only placed in asc / 5th / 9th or joining with

these lords suffices this condition of association with trikona?

>

> 2. This is clear that natural benefics suffer from this dosha. Will

natural malefics such as saturn, sun, mars etc will also suffer from

this dosha?

>

> Regards,

> Tanvir

>

> "What can not happen, can never happen.

> Which is mine, is forever mine."

>

> Tanvir Chowdhury

> tanvir

> http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir

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>

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> Visti Larsen

>

> Tuesday, May 06, 2003 2:34 AM

> [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Kendradhipati Dosha

>

> Hare Rama Krishna

> --------------------

> Dear List,

> The definition of Kendradhipati Dosha is now being given anew.

>

> Kendradhipati means lord of Kendra's and its said that planets

lording Kendra's devoid of Trikona association causes Kendradhipati

Dosha.

>

> Now the propper reasoning and definition is important for

otherwise even clever Jyotishas will go wrong and proclaim all sorts of

results for Kendradhipati Dosha.

>

> The 4 quadrant-houses - viz. Lagna, 10th, 7th and 4th, represent

the 4 Gayatris, or 4 times of prayer, namely; Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva

and Kali Gayatri respectively occuring at Sunrise, Midday, Sunset and

Midnight respectively.

>

> Among these 4 houses, the 10th house is also an Upachaya house

(3,6,10,11), showing that the 10th house is the MOST powerful house and

has the greatest importance in ensuring our GROWTH in this world. This

growth stems from actions, and the 10th house is the seat of our

Indriyas from which ALL actions resonate from.

>

> Now the 10th house is a trine to the 2nd and 6th houses, hence

going by the name - Artha trikona, or that which will sustain us in

this world, and hence the 10th house is the MOST important house in the

chart, working to sustain us and make us grow in this world!

>

> Hence; among the 4 quadrants the 10th house of Vishnu Gayatri

becomes the most powerful and the quadrants to it are the pillars of

the natives life, all working to support the 10th house.. For this

reason the Kendra's are called VISHNU STHANA.

>

> Now what is the use of all this work and actions if there are no

fruits? The Midday is the peak of the workday where there is most

activity and where the worship of Vishnu is the highest! But if Lakshmi

is not there then the work will carry NO FRUITS, and this is the TRUE

definition of Kendradhipati Dosha!

>

> The Bhavas causing the blessings of Lakshmi are the 5th and 9th

houses, and shows when the work/worship will carry fruits, or when they

will be useless. This is the principles of creative power.

>

> Hence; whenever a Kendra lord (especially the 10th lord) is not

associated with trikona sign or lord, theres Kendradhipati Dosha and

the fruits of labour are not reaped, and allthough the native puts in

great effort, they suffer terrible distress due to lack of

acknowledgement for their actions.

>

> There is one exception to this rule however. If the planet is

lord of Lagna, then there is no Kendradhipati Dosha, as how could your

birth occur if you were not created? Hence a planet lording the Lagna,

is by nature both a Kendra and Trikona lord.

> The definition should be clear now.

>

> Jaya Jagannatha!

> Best wishes

> Visti

> ---

May 6, 2003

Hari Om Tat Sat

------------------

Dear Sarajit, Namaste.

The 10th house holds a special role among the upachayas, this is now explained.

The leftover dushta-karmas are seen from the 8th house, which having been

performed in the past life as sins (Saturn), represent themselves as long term

ailments and diseases as punishment.

Now the 10th house shows the karmas we perform in this life, and being the 3rd

from the 8th house, shows the actions or Parakrama we perform to get rid of

this Dustha-Karma! For this reason the 10th house is SAMSKARA Sthana, and shows

the power of our austerities to burn away the bad karmas of our past life.

It is for this reason that Varahamihira and other authors attributed painful

deaths depending on the Yogas in the 10th house or its quadrants.. namely

whether we are doing good karma or creating more dustha to suffer from!

Hence among the Upachayas the 10th house works as beneficial (hopefully) towards

the growth of the person.

Hope this answers your questions.

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

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Sarajit Poddar

Tuesday, May 06, 2003 7:43 AM

Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Kendradhipati Dosha

Jaya JagannathDear Visti,You wrote:"This is understood in the principle of the

Upachaya Sthana, where growth is the focal point and lords of Upachaya Sthana

(excepting 10th lord), are deemed malefic-results."Sarajit:Why lords of

Upachaya Sthana (excepting 10th lord), are deemed malefic-results?With your

reasoning, the malefics lording the Upachayas should also deemed to be benefics

as they also contribute to growth (upachayas). Why only 10th house?Best

WishesSarajit> > Hare Rama Krishna> -----------------------> Dear Tanvir and

Sarajit, Namaste.> > 1. You have said that a lord of kendra devoid of Trikona

association will suffer from this dosha. here by the term "Trikona association"

do you mean that they will have to lord over a trikona (1, 5, 9) necessarily, or

only placed in asc / 5th / 9th or joining with these lords suffices this

condition of association with trikona?> > Visti: > lord of a kendra;> i)

lords a trine.> ii) joins a trine.> iii) joins a trinal lord.> iv) has

sambandha with a trinal lord.> Such an association with make the planet Yoga

Karaka. Hence Yoga Karaka is not limited to lordship of a Kendra and Trikona.>

> 2. This is clear that natural benefics suffer from this dosha. Will natural

malefics such as saturn, sun, mars etc will also suffer from this dosha?> >

Visti: This is understood in the principle of the Upachaya Sthana, where

growth is the focal point and lords of Upachaya Sthana (excepting 10th lord),

are deemed malefic-results.> The reason stems from the nature of growth. The

tree grows roots, and needs more water, more room and more attention from the

Sun, hence obstructing other plants and tree's from doing the same. Hence

Malefics do not suffer under this Dosha as they are able to change their

surroundings at their will, whilst Benefics who by nature are soft and

nurturing will not do so and as a result confer destruction on their own house,

just as a pious person wavors away the desire todo any type of evil, at the

consequence of loosing home, reputation and etc.> Hence the lordship and

natural traits of the planet become understood through this.> > Best wishes>

Visti> ---> Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org> Bhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> iTRANS 99 Font:

http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> - >

Tanvir > > Tuesday, May 06, 2003

3:35 AM> Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Kendradhipati Dosha> > > Dear

Visti Jee,> I have two questions though -> > 1. You have said that a lord

of kendra devoid of Trikona association will suffer from this dosha. here by

the term "Trikona association" do you mean that they will have to lord over a

trikona (1, 5, 9) necessarily, or only placed in asc / 5th / 9th or joining

with these lords suffices this condition of association with trikona?> > 2.

This is clear that natural benefics suffer from this dosha. Will natural

malefics such as saturn, sun, mars etc will also suffer from this dosha?> > >

Regards,> Tanvir> > > "What can not happen, can never happen.> Which is

mine, is forever mine."> > Tanvir Chowdhury> tanvir (AT) siriusbb (DOT) com>

http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir>

http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro>

> > > ----- Original Message

----- > Visti Larsen > >

Tuesday, May 06, 2003 2:34 AM> [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul]

Kendradhipati Dosha> > > Hare Rama Krishna> -------------------->

Dear List,> The definition of Kendradhipati Dosha is now being given anew.>

> Kendradhipati means lord of Kendra's and its said that planets lording

Kendra's devoid of Trikona association causes Kendradhipati Dosha.> > Now

the propper reasoning and definition is important for otherwise even clever

Jyotishas will go wrong and proclaim all sorts of results for Kendradhipati

Dosha.> > > The 4 quadrant-houses - viz. Lagna, 10th, 7th and 4th,

represent the 4 Gayatris, or 4 times of prayer, namely; Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva

and Kali Gayatri respectively occuring at Sunrise, Midday, Sunset and Midnight

respectively.> > Among these 4 houses, the 10th house is also an Upachaya

house (3,6,10,11), showing that the 10th house is the MOST powerful house and

has the greatest importance in ensuring our GROWTH in this world. This growth

stems from actions, and the 10th house is the seat of our Indriyas from which

ALL actions resonate from. > > Now the 10th house is a trine to the 2nd and

6th houses, hence going by the name - Artha trikona, or that which will sustain

us in this world, and hence the 10th house is the MOST important house in the

chart, working to sustain us and make us grow in this world!> > Hence;

among the 4 quadrants the 10th house of Vishnu Gayatri becomes the most

powerful and the quadrants to it are the pillars of the natives life, all

working to support the 10th house.. For this reason the Kendra's are called

VISHNU STHANA.> > > Now what is the use of all this work and actions if

there are no fruits? The Midday is the peak of the workday where there is most

activity and where the worship of Vishnu is the highest! But if Lakshmi is not

there then the work will carry NO FRUITS, and this is the TRUE definition of

Kendradhipati Dosha!> > The Bhavas causing the blessings of Lakshmi are the

5th and 9th houses, and shows when the work/worship will carry fruits, or when

they will be useless. This is the principles of creative power.> > Hence;

whenever a Kendra lord (especially the 10th lord) is not associated with

trikona sign or lord, theres Kendradhipati Dosha and the fruits of labour are

not reaped, and allthough the native puts in great effort, they suffer terrible

distress due to lack of acknowledgement for their actions.> > There is one

exception to this rule however. If the planet is lord of Lagna, then there is

no Kendradhipati Dosha, as how could your birth occur if you were not created?

Hence a planet lording the Lagna, is by nature both a Kendra and Trikona lord.>

The definition should be clear now.> > Jaya Jagannatha!> Best

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Dear Visti,

How do we reconcile this with Laghu Parashari shloka which says" 1

na idSaint SauBaM naRNaaM saaOmya: kond`aiQapayaid

`kUraScaodSauBaM (oto `pbalaa }<arao<arma\

and 2

kond`aiQap%yadaoYastu balavaana\ gau$Sau `kyaao:

mark%vao|ip ca tyaaomaa-rksqaanasaMisqait:

especially as Jupiter is likely to be Lagnesh in 2 of the 4 possible positions as kendradhipati.

The fonts I have used are shivaji01 fonts of Susha fonts for devanagari

reproductions of shloka 7 and 10 quoted above.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

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Visti Larsen

Tuesday, May 06, 2003 9:38 AM