18th discussion meeting proceedings, mumbai

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Respected learned list members,

 

Our 18th meeting was held on 13.04.03. The same was attended by,

 

1. Anand Sonde

2. Sunil John

3. Dr. ramchandani

4. Aparna Vedula

5. Dasgupta

We had discussion on 1 very interesting female horoscope of multiple marriage

case. The case was mentioned in a local astrological magazine. Chart is

attached herewith in jhl4.1 format. We would request learned members to kindly

comment on the same

===============================================

Chart Details:

27.04.1952

15:20pm

Kolhapur, Maharastra

 

Background:

 

The lady had multiple marriages as follows.

 

1. 1st married 1969-husband died in 1991

2. 2nd marriage 1992 - husband died withing 2 months due to heart attack

3. 3rd marriage 1993 - whether husband died or it was a divorce, not known

4. 4th marriage 1994 - whether husband died or it was a divorce, not known

5. 5th marriage 1995 - whether husband died or it was a divorce, not known

6. 6th marriage 1996 - whether husband died or it was a divorce, not known

7. 7th marriage 1997-married with a top govt official, still continuing

 

Doubts:

1. the lady got married 1st time quite early..at the age of 17 years. Ra in 7th

generally delay marriage. So why this lady got married so early? is it due to

placement od DK Ju in 7th in D9?

2. she has Ju and exaulted Su in 2nd from UL. both are benefic for UL..then why

so many breaks and remarriages? is it due to Ke in 7th in D9? another thing

noticeable here..that her DK and UL lord (AL lord also) Ju is in A7 aspected by

strong Ra fro 7th house. and the lady has got Ra in 3rd from AL, aspected by Ma

from 11th from AL.

3. her AK Ve is both exaulted and virgottoma. in rahi Ve is with 2L & 11L Me

(dbltd) in 8th (4th from AL), and in D9..Ve is with D9 lord Ma at 8th from AL.

8th shows inheritence also. Does this have anything to do with many

marriages...and thereby inheritance benefits in any way (exaulted Ve)?

 

Please provide us guidance on the same.

 

Regards

 

dasgupta

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Hare Krishna

Dear Group,

Here are my comments about lady with multiple relationships for what

its worth.

For marriage dont forget to start with basics.everywhere you look

there are problems here.

Venus(karaka)for spouse(mostly) for men but none theless, it is in

the "second"maraka place from the 7th house. It may give benefits

from marriage...planets in 8th for women can show how they benefit

from spouse.venus is planet of love(or disturbed love)

So in her case Venus gives some benefits to marriage but is not good

for marriage either, not only is venus in the8th, it is aspected by

Sat,is a seperative planet, and also is the 7th lord.

Venus is with Merc, and aspected by Sat(2 neuter planets)

See the combined effect of Sat and Merc onto 8th house AND VENUS

7th from venus bring the spouse, but here Sat is not only the 7th

lord, he is in a 6/8 position from his house of marrige. So it is

doomed to some extent.The 7th lord sat has papakartari from Ketu and

Mars and in additional is a malefic himself.

By rasi dristhi the 7th house is aspected by , Mars,Sun(2more

malefics)

UL is in the 8th house.And the 8th(losss) from 8th house is Mars

(debilitated)

 

 

 

Rahu gives a backword glance to Venus, house of sexuality.

Moon is the 12th lord (bed pleasures)it is exlated in 10th of

occupations.To continue the 10th lord Venus is exalted, in 8th of

sexuality.Is this sort of a prositution she is up to in a sense?

Looking at trines from 7th house, is deb.MArs and Retrograde!

In kendras from 7th just the nodes and Exalted Moon but it is

aspected by a debilitated,retro Mars.

Rahu in the7th can give alot more than problems in marriage, it

shows some past karmas and desires.The injunction I am familiar with

say that Rahu in 7th gives destruction of marriage if the marrige

comes before age 27(some say 32)in otherwords divorce,so that is how

he can give additional marriage.

In addition the 7th house is aspected by deb Mars!

Just think Rahu,and all that he represents in the 7th house aspected

by deb Mars.Also notice this nasty MArs aspects Moon and Ketu in

lagna also.!

I think there has to be some deception regarding getting married..

in this chart, as there are two many indications of this.

Rahu is in the 3rd from AL,and deb Mars is in the 11th of gains from

AL.Sat the 6th and 7th lord is in the second house of gains,and

aspects the 11th house of gains,and the AL also.Dont forget this

happens through rasi dristhi as well!Rahu also falls in the 11th

from LL and Jup(a karaka of spouse for ladies)

Also 10th from the Moon is rahu.

She is a confused lady and has disturbed orientation, I think she

must have been very demanding,I wouldnt be surprised if she

deliberatly seperates for material gain.If you look at the artha and

desiring houses you can see this.

Also another factor is that look what dasa periods she was going

through deb.Mars,and Rahu , so we can see why she got married,and it

didnt work.

Jup isnt so good either as he is Aspected by deb mars(house lord)

is apsepted by the Rahu/Ketu.,and the 7th lord is in 6/8 situation

also.

Lagna lord is conjoined Jup the 8th lord,(and dispositor of venus)UL

lord,and aspected by deb A7lord Mars.

Anyway there are alot of not good indications for marriage as an

institution although who knwos what else she gets out of it, for

this lady.

Perhaps now that she has a big man with money she will feel happy.

Using sat as lagna for vimshottari , Ex Venus falls into the 7th,

but as the bhukti periods come in the future I have doubts it will

last.

Im curious how others explain through AL,UL,A7 etc.

Sorry if that was disjointed...

Take Care,

With Best wishes

lakshmdevi

 

 

, "jk dasgupta" <dgasso@v...>

wrote:

> Respected learned list members,

>

> Our 18th meeting was held on 13.04.03. The same was attended by,

>

> 1. Anand Sonde

> 2. Sunil John

> 3. Dr. ramchandani

> 4. Aparna Vedula

> 5. Dasgupta

>

> We had discussion on 1 very interesting female horoscope of

multiple marriage case. The case was mentioned in a local

astrological magazine. Chart is attached herewith in jhl4.1 format.

We would request learned members to kindly comment on the same

> ===============================================

> Chart Details:

> 27.04.1952

> 15:20pm

> Kolhapur, Maharastra

>

> Background:

>

> The lady had multiple marriages as follows.

>

> 1. 1st married 1969-husband died in 1991

> 2. 2nd marriage 1992 - husband died withing 2 months due to heart

attack

> 3. 3rd marriage 1993 - whether husband died or it was a divorce,

not known

> 4. 4th marriage 1994 - whether husband died or it was a divorce,

not known

> 5. 5th marriage 1995 - whether husband died or it was a divorce,

not known

> 6. 6th marriage 1996 - whether husband died or it was a divorce,

not known

> 7. 7th marriage 1997-married with a top govt official, still

continuing

>

> Doubts:

> 1. the lady got married 1st time quite early..at the age of 17

years. Ra in 7th generally delay marriage. So why this lady got

married so early? is it due to placement od DK Ju in 7th in D9?

> 2. she has Ju and exaulted Su in 2nd from UL. both are benefic for

UL..then why so many breaks and remarriages? is it due to Ke in 7th

in D9? another thing noticeable here..that her DK and UL lord (AL

lord also) Ju is in A7 aspected by strong Ra fro 7th house. and the

lady has got Ra in 3rd from AL, aspected by Ma from 11th from AL.

> 3. her AK Ve is both exaulted and virgottoma. in rahi Ve is with

2L & 11L Me (dbltd) in 8th (4th from AL), and in D9..Ve is with D9

lord Ma at 8th from AL. 8th shows inheritence also. Does this have

anything to do with many marriages...and thereby inheritance

benefits in any way (exaulted Ve)?

>

> Please provide us guidance on the same.

>

> Regards

>

> dasgupta

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Dear SJC Mumbai

 

The case of multiple marriages has been discussed for Elizabeth

taylor in the book VImshottari dasa by SHri Sanjay Rath.

 

7th lord in 2nd means the person is maraka for her spouse(COVA).

Rahu in 7th doesnot mean delay in marriage, Rahu gives unconventional

and sudden marriages.

 

Kalatra Karaka Venus exalted with mercury in UL is also the reason

for her multiple marriages.

 

In Elizabeth taylor's chart, Venus as 7th lord is with Rahu in fifth

house. This was pointed out as a case of multiple marriages.

 

The karaka for UL is Jupiter, and Both MERcury and Venus are inimical

to the same.

 

Note Badhakesh Mars is retrograde and is with exalted venus in fifth

house in Navamsa. Looks like she has special ability in getting

married.

regards

partha

 

 

 

 

, "jk dasgupta" <dgasso@v...>

wrote:

> Respected learned list members,

>

> Our 18th meeting was held on 13.04.03. The same was attended by,

>

> 1. Anand Sonde

> 2. Sunil John

> 3. Dr. ramchandani

> 4. Aparna Vedula

> 5. Dasgupta

>

> We had discussion on 1 very interesting female horoscope of

multiple marriage case. The case was mentioned in a local

astrological magazine. Chart is attached herewith in jhl4.1 format.

We would request learned members to kindly comment on the same

> ===============================================

> Chart Details:

> 27.04.1952

> 15:20pm

> Kolhapur, Maharastra

>

> Background:

>

> The lady had multiple marriages as follows.

>

> 1. 1st married 1969-husband died in 1991

> 2. 2nd marriage 1992 - husband died withing 2 months due to heart

attack

> 3. 3rd marriage 1993 - whether husband died or it was a divorce,

not known

> 4. 4th marriage 1994 - whether husband died or it was a divorce,

not known

> 5. 5th marriage 1995 - whether husband died or it was a divorce,

not known

> 6. 6th marriage 1996 - whether husband died or it was a divorce,

not known

> 7. 7th marriage 1997-married with a top govt official, still

continuing

>

> Doubts:

> 1. the lady got married 1st time quite early..at the age of 17

years. Ra in 7th generally delay marriage. So why this lady got

married so early? is it due to placement od DK Ju in 7th in D9?

> 2. she has Ju and exaulted Su in 2nd from UL. both are benefic for

UL..then why so many breaks and remarriages? is it due to Ke in 7th

in D9? another thing noticeable here..that her DK and UL lord (AL

lord also) Ju is in A7 aspected by strong Ra fro 7th house. and the

lady has got Ra in 3rd from AL, aspected by Ma from 11th from AL.

> 3. her AK Ve is both exaulted and virgottoma. in rahi Ve is with 2L

& 11L Me (dbltd) in 8th (4th from AL), and in D9..Ve is with D9 lord

Ma at 8th from AL. 8th shows inheritence also. Does this have

anything to do with many marriages...and thereby inheritance benefits

in any way (exaulted Ve)?

>

> Please provide us guidance on the same.

>

> Regards

>

> dasgupta

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dear lakhmi devi,

 

thanks for the valuable comments. i have some further comments.. plz see in bold red.

 

regrads

 

jk

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lakshmisyama

 

Sunday, April 27, 2003 9:13 PM

[sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: 18th discussion meeting proceedings, mumbai

Venus is with Merc, and aspected by Sat(2 neuter planets)See the combined effect

of Sat and Merc onto 8th house AND VENUS7th from venus bring the spouse, but

here Sat is not only the 7th lord, he is in a 6/8 position from his house of

marrige. So it is doomed to some extent.

 

it is a very good point braught out by you. Ve as AK indicates that the native

must have a very clean character and refrain from illegitimate sex/lust. Ma in

7th from paka, exaulted 12th lord with Ve as AK and Ra's 12th aspect on it from

7th house... all these should indicate to the same. Sa (also 7th lord) being

friend of Ve and at 7th from Ve..has braught her many spouses and by this way

helping AK to execute its teaching.

 

UL is in the 8th house.And the 8th(losss) from 8th house is Mars

debilitated)mars is debltd at Cn..however, this is also a good point. most

probably mars in 8th from UL has shortened her marriages. another thing..though

Ju and Su in 2nd from UL should sustain marriage..but here 2nd from UL happens

to be her badhaka sthana and exaulted lagna lord (Su) and DK (Ju) are placed

there. this also most probably has created obstructions in longivity of her

marriages.Rahu gives a backword glance to Venus, house of sexuality. Moon is

the 12th lord (bed pleasures)it is exlated in 10th of occupations.To continue

the 10th lord Venus is exalted, in 8th of sexuality.Is this sort of a

prositution she is up to in a sense?

 

very good point

 

Rahu in the7th can give alot more than problems in marriage, it shows some past

karmas and desires.The injunction I am familiar with say that Rahu in 7th gives

destruction of marriage if the marrige comes before age 27(some say 32)in

otherwords divorce,so that is how he can give additional marriage.

 

seems to be a nice point again. can you plz quote any reference about Ra's

effect in 7th - if the marrige comes before age 27 ?

 

She is a confused lady and has disturbed orientation, I think she must have been

very demanding,I wouldnt be surprised if she deliberatly seperates for material

gain.If you look at the artha and desiring houses you can see this.

with all probability..yes. at least..exaulted lagna lord and kaltrakaraka Ve also points to this

 

Also another factor is that look what dasa periods she was going through

deb.Mars,and Rahu , so we can see why she got married,and it didnt work.Jup

isnt so good either as he is Aspected by deb mars(house lord)is apsepted by the

Rahu/Ketu.,and the 7th lord is in 6/8 situation also.Lagna lord is conjoined Jup

the 8th lord,(and dispositor of venus)UL lord,and aspected by deb A7lord

Mars.Anyway there are alot of not good indications for marriage as an

institution although who knwos what else she gets out of it, for this

lady.Perhaps now that she has a big man with money she will feel happy. Using

sat as lagna for vimshottari , Ex Venus falls into the 7th, but as the bhukti

periods come in the future I have doubts it will last.Im curious how others

explain through AL,UL,A7 etc.Sorry if that was disjointed...Take Care,With Best

wisheslakshmdevi, "jk dasgupta" <dgasso@v...>

wrote:> Respected learned list members,> > Our 18th meeting was held on

13.04.03. The same was attended by,> > 1. Anand Sonde> 2. Sunil John> 3. Dr.

ramchandani> 4. Aparna Vedula> 5. Dasgupta> > We had discussion on 1 very

interesting female horoscope of multiple marriage case. The case was mentioned

in a local astrological magazine. Chart is attached herewith in jhl4.1 format.

We would request learned members to kindly comment on the same>

===============================================> Chart Details:> 27.04.1952>

15:20pm> Kolhapur, Maharastra> > Background:> > The lady had multiple marriages

as follows. > > 1. 1st married 1969-husband died in 1991> 2. 2nd marriage 1992 -

husband died withing 2 months due to heart attack> 3. 3rd marriage 1993 -

whether husband died or it was a divorce, not known > 4. 4th marriage 1994 -

whether husband died or it was a divorce, not known > 5. 5th marriage 1995 -

whether husband died or it was a divorce, not known > 6. 6th marriage 1996 -

whether husband died or it was a divorce, not known > 7. 7th marriage

1997-married with a top govt official, still continuing> > Doubts:> 1. the lady

got married 1st time quite early..at the age of 17 years. Ra in 7th generally

delay marriage. So why this lady got married so early? is it due to placement

od DK Ju in 7th in D9?> 2. she has Ju and exaulted Su in 2nd from UL. both are

benefic for UL..then why so many breaks and remarriages? is it due to Ke in 7th

in D9? another thing noticeable here..that her DK and UL lord (AL lord also) Ju

is in A7 aspected by strong Ra fro 7th house. and the lady has got Ra in 3rd

from AL, aspected by Ma from 11th from AL.> 3. her AK Ve is both exaulted and

virgottoma. in rahi Ve is with 2L & 11L Me (dbltd) in 8th (4th from AL), and in

D9..Ve is with D9 lord Ma at 8th from AL. 8th shows inheritence also. Does this

have anything to do with many marriages...and thereby inheritance benefits in

any way (exaulted Ve)?> > Please provide us guidance on the same.> > Regards> >

dasgupta

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dear partha,

 

many thanks for your valuable and well thaught comments. plz find my further

comments below

 

regards

 

jk

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V.partha sarathy

 

Monday, April 28, 2003 9:45 AM

[sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: 18th discussion meeting proceedings, mumbai

Dear SJC Mumbai7th lord in 2nd means the person is maraka for her spouse(COVA).

 

page 257 of COVA states that when 7L in 2H..the spouse becomes maraka for the

person. can you plz check it again?

Rahu in 7th doesnot mean delay in marriage, Rahu gives unconventional and sudden marriages.

 

very true..but, i have seen that rahu in 7th also delays marriage in many cases

and instead give many bhogas. this is also one of the mischiefs rahu dose from

7th.Kalatra Karaka Venus exalted with mercury in UL is also the reason for her

multiple marriages.In Elizabeth taylor's chart, Venus as 7th lord is with Rahu

in fifth house. This was pointed out as a case of multiple marriages.The karaka

for UL is Jupiter, and Both MERcury and Venus are inimical to the same.Note

Badhakesh Mars is retrograde and is with exalted venus in fifth house in

Navamsa. Looks like she has special ability in getting married.

 

I agree with you.

 

 

regardspartha, "jk dasgupta" <dgasso@v...>

wrote:> Respected learned list members,> > Our 18th meeting was held on

13.04.03. The same was attended by,> > 1. Anand Sonde> 2. Sunil John> 3. Dr.

ramchandani> 4. Aparna Vedula> 5. Dasgupta> > We had discussion on 1 very

interesting female horoscope of multiple marriage case. The case was mentioned

in a local astrological magazine. Chart is attached herewith in jhl4.1 format.

We would request learned members to kindly comment on the same>

===============================================> Chart Details:> 27.04.1952>

15:20pm> Kolhapur, Maharastra> > Background:> > The lady had multiple marriages

as follows. > > 1. 1st married 1969-husband died in 1991> 2. 2nd marriage 1992 -

husband died withing 2 months due to heart attack> 3. 3rd marriage 1993 -

whether husband died or it was a divorce, not known > 4. 4th marriage 1994 -

whether husband died or it was a divorce, not known > 5. 5th marriage 1995 -

whether husband died or it was a divorce, not known > 6. 6th marriage 1996 -

whether husband died or it was a divorce, not known > 7. 7th marriage

1997-married with a top govt official, still continuing> > Doubts:> 1. the lady

got married 1st time quite early..at the age of 17 years. Ra in 7th generally

delay marriage. So why this lady got married so early? is it due to placement

od DK Ju in 7th in D9?> 2. she has Ju and exaulted Su in 2nd from UL. both are

benefic for UL..then why so many breaks and remarriages? is it due to Ke in 7th

in D9? another thing noticeable here..that her DK and UL lord (AL lord also) Ju

is in A7 aspected by strong Ra fro 7th house. and the lady has got Ra in 3rd

from AL, aspected by Ma from 11th from AL.> 3. her AK Ve is both exaulted and

virgottoma. in rahi Ve is with 2L & 11L Me (dbltd) in 8th (4th from AL), and in

D9..Ve is with D9 lord Ma at 8th from AL. 8th shows inheritence also. Does this

have anything to do with many marriages...and thereby inheritance benefits in

any way (exaulted Ve)?> > Please provide us guidance on the same.> > Regards> >

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