Guest guest Posted April 25, 2003 Report Share Posted April 25, 2003 Om Namo Gurubrihaspathaye Dear Sarbani and Gurus I had a quick glance and adding few points to you. Since me too learning waiting for others comments. The Atmakaraka is 9th lord Sun, gloriously situated in lagna, which is Sagittarius. Sun is also the lord of Arudha Lagna. It is situated in the 2nd house in the Navamsa, indicating a high level of spirituality. Mars is the 5th lord placed in the 5th in its own house Aries. The trinal houses thus indicate a very high agni component, making his chart vibrant, which was depicted in his glowing personality. There is Tapasvi yoga, with Saturn, Venus and Ketu placed in trines from each other. The presence of benefics in the 3rd and 6th from the AL and that of malefics in the 2nd from UL, also shows Parivrajya Yoga. Benefics in 3rd or 6th in generally good as they are not going to fight, but give up, or defeating in battles.To have best results, these benefics must be strong in Navamsa chart.Jupiter is in Lagna in his friend's place, but mercury and Venus are considerably weak to make him spiritual. Instead, Venus forming Viparita Raja Yoga, as debilitated in Nawamsa. Even these planets add to Swami's spiritual path by improve qualities of AHIMSA, I think this is not the complete Pravraj yoga for him. In addition to this, Saturn and Rahu in 2nd and 4th from much stronger for spirituality. Saturn is in own rasi in Nawamsa chart with Mars..going to exaltation. So Maraka to AL, UL and A7. Agree with your point. But as you explained, 12th from karakamsa (Moksha) is rising with strong tapasvi yoga in both Rasi and Drekkana chart is the 1st rate yoga for spirituality and this is again conformed by the Saturn Moon combination.Kevala too influenced by Saturn. AK Sun is a mahayogada, placed in lagna, which is also the Hora Lagna and the Ghati Lagna. This conforms the fact that he attained fame internationally by establishing the order of the Ramakrishna Math, which is spread all over the globe, became renowned as one of the foremost preachers of Hinduism in the West and wrote innumerable books on religion. He became famous for his dictum, which is primarily his guru’s message, that the Vedas must be rescued from the forests and brought back into the household and that Hinduism should be released from the clutches of the “touch not” mantra, which has pervaded the kitchens of India. Sun thus gave him unending fame, made him build temples and made him heed the call of his atma, and follow its spiritual path. I think Sun and Jupiter building temples. Sun is 9th lord(vargottama), in lagna which is 9th of the natural zodiac, with Jupiter's argala on it. Jupiter aspect 9th house, rasi dristi. The yoga for undying fame is Jupiter and/or Moon. How ever swami is famous and have to agreed the friend of Guru, Sun, (karaka for lagna, fame) is in lagna done the job for Guru. The planet in the 12th house from Karakamsa is Jupiter, placed in the Navamsa lagna. Jupiter in Navamsa lagna as ishta can mean both Maha Vishnu and Sada Shiva. I kind of cheated, as I knew beforehand that he was an ardent devotee of Shiva as also his innumerable childhood stories related to the great lord. However we could not conform it in the chart. Saravali says Jupiter in lagna means Shiva, but if we follow our regular ishta calculation method it can also mean Vishnu. How do we determine this? Aspects did not help, as Saturn and Mercury points more towards Vishnu. Prashant’s opinion was that since Mars is the dispositor of ishta, it might imply Rudra and hence Shiva. I instinctively went towards the fact that Sun was such a strong AK in his chart that it surely pointed towards Shiva, although I cannot explain it logically. We looked up VRA later and there the explanation is given according to Sun in the lagna. (As I write this, I notice, Jupiter is aspecting an exalted Venus in the 5th in Navamsa. Venus in 5th is Mrityunjaya, so this clinches the case for Shiva). The strongest planet in trine indicate the davata one like to worship. Sun is stronger than Mars indicate Shiva, the Guru. How ever his Ishta davata represented by Jupiter. It is a totally different concept as one may not be identified his Ishta devata for whole life time. But natural tendancy to worship is found with every body isn't ? There is a Kalika yoga with Saturn and Moon in Virgo in the 10th. Saturn is BK, and the Kalika yoga clearly conforms that his guru was the priest of Goddess Kali of Dakshineswar, and a devout worshipper of the Divine Mother, having the privilege of Her sakshat darshan. Sanjayji has explained this in his books many times too, that this shows Vivekananda’s guru came from the tradition of Kali. There is a very interesting exchange between the 2nd and 10th lords, Saturn and Mercury. The 2nd house, Capricorn is also his Mantrapada, lorded by BK Saturn. Saturn goes to Virgo forming Kalika yoga with Moon in the 10th, and its lord Mecury is in the 2nd. Maybe other gurus on the List can elaborate on the true meaning of such an exchange. Never heard about Kalika yoga before. Do you have any details for us ? We looked at Drig Dasha for timing his renunciation. I feel Capricorn-Virgo dasha was extremely important, for the reasons given above. Capricorn dasha, containing his Mantrapada, lasted from 1883-1887. Cap-Vir was for 5 months in the beginning of 1883. This was followed by Cap-Leo, Leo being his AL. This too is a probable period. Cap-Tau was for 4 months in mid-1884. During Cap-Vir he must have met Sri Ramakrishna, perhaps even renunciated, but as far as my memory serves me, he renunciated later. Probably in 1884 during Cap-Tau? The Math was established perhaps in the first half of 1886 when Cap-Sag was operating. We verified later that Sri Ramakrishna left his earthly body in 1886, and I know for a fact that the Math was established after he left for the heavenly abode; so 1886 seems like a probable date. Sagittarius is his lagna with AK Sun forming the mahayogada there. We must remember that Sun is also AL lord. So Lagna plays an important role in the establishment of the Ramakrishna Math. In vimshottari, he was undergoing Rahu mahadasha. From 1882 to 1888 he went through the antardashas of Mercury, Ketu and Venus, all planets associated with his guru, mantrapada and Parivrajya yoga. This also coincides with Cap-Vir and Cap-Tau Drig dashas. The period 1883-1887 is the probable time when he renunciated and established the order. If this time frame is confirmed then we can attempt to narrow it down. I have not tried to conform these dates yet. Within the time period you given, Rahu /Mer Vimsottari dasa, Ketu was in Aries (10.1882-04.1884). It must be Capricorn Driga dasa (A5 and aspect AL),and Leo sub (AL). Can be narrow down to April 1883 to Sep. Before he met Sri Ramakrishna, Vivekananda used to frequent the Brahmo Samaj, like most of his Western educated contemporaries. In that sense Vivekananda was very much a product of renaissance Bengal. After he met Thakur, he left the Samaj. We wondered whether this could be determined from his chart. This maybe very simplistic. Awaiting response form gurus. What is Brahmo Samaj Sarbani ? No Idea. Thanks Karu Best regards, Sarbani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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