Mirror, Reality- Arudhas

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Om Namo Gurubrihaspathaye

Dear Ramanarayanan,

 

What I am going to say is not final words about Aruda. This must be realized,

but cannot teach. Up to level of predictions, intellectual understandings

helps. But my understanding, Jyotish is not only predictions. It is a para

vidya, which cannot be understand through sense organs, as they have

limitations.

 

The real person is Atma a spark of energy, which is mute investigator. The final

goal of water is flow down and mix with the ocean and loose the individual

existence. That is why the Moksha trikona is Jala Tatwa. Atma is existing or

manifest in this material world after taking a "form" of a human or animal body

according to the Karma. This physical existence with own qualities or GUNA

subject to so many conditions such as birth, death etc. It is only the

"physical form" undergo these condition and suffer, but not the real person or

Atma. When I say real person, the mind trying to understand it again as

individually. So be careful.

 

The physical manifestation of Atma with a mind and body must go so many

conditions. Must feed the body, must keep the mind happy and so on. These

factors can be seen from Aruda Lagna more effectively, instead Lagna. In fact

all these conditions and every thing are MAYA, not real, as the soul do not

care about what we do, how we suffer etc.

 

Srila Prabhupada explains, the stage of understand this as BRAHMA BHUTA AVASTA.

Buddha explained as NAMA RUPA PARICHCHEDANA GNANA.(The knowledge of

delimitation of mind and matter or name and form). It is far away, if we come

to our own conception with our own mind, with the help of sense organs. So do

not depend on senses.

 

The death is called, leaving this physical body when ever it is ready. It must

be seen from Aruda Lagna, as we leaving from the physical manifestation.

 

Robert Guru nicely explained this all. This all "May" help you in addition to

Robert's explanations. How ever the question Anna asked or you trying to

understand is worth. That is the meaning of human form of life, no doubt. Hope

you all will have blessing from Ganesh.

 

Please forgive me if I make any trouble here. I am too trying to understand this

all. If I have done a mistake, I hope the learned Gurus will rectify it for us.

 

Thanks for reading.

Karu

 

 

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P.S. RAMANARAYANAN

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Monday, April 21, 2003 11:30 AM

Re: [GJ] Mirror, Reality- Arudhas

SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM JAGAT

AUM GURUBYO NAMAH

Respected Anna & Robert,

Namaste. At the outset i wish to thankyou for your contributions. A very nice

topic has been chosen indeed for discussion - Lagna/Arudha lagna. May i join?

i wish to submit my understandings below:

Sun is the Atman, Moon is the mind and Lagna is the body. This is the tripod of

life concept taught. Confusion arises when we try to interpret Arudha as

intangible and Lagna as tangible. Instead of trying to distinguish it in this

manner i think it is better to call it temporary and permanent. Sathya/truth

is one which is ever permanent while Asatya is temporary. Going by this

prinicple i think it would be better to treat Lagna as the time when Jeeva

manifested. i think it would be better to treat lagna as Jeeva/Jeevatma while

Arudha as body which is correctly classisfied as perishable/temporary. Jeeva

goes on till the merger with Paramaatman. Death has been timed with reference

to Arudha Lagna (Shoola rasi dasas aspecting AL brings death/death equivalent

troubles) goes to say this point more clearly.

You can ask one question then why Lagna is consulted with HL for finding out the

longevity span. Manifestation is not a permanent feature. Time of manifestation

has a time of dissolution also (vyakta/avaykta).

i wanted to draw up Vimsottari dashas with reference to Arudha lagna and check

up results for the 3rd, 5th and 7th dasas just to find out whether that period

throws light on timing of death. i have not done that so far.

Sanjay can throw more light if he is reading this.

Best wishes,

Astrologically yours,

psramanrayanan

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