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April 8, 2003

Dear Sumeet,

The logic I applied was the fact that Mercury in your chart had

highest overall points and is eager to give results for marriage.

Shani is not causing any delay. Guru is in the sign of Shani in

Navamsa. So legal age for marriage is 21. Since there is no delay

indicated in your chart Marriage can be after 21 year of age. Since

you were born in Dec 75 i.e your legal age would come up to be 1996.

At that time Rahus antra was running followed by Guru's. Rahu

represents Guru as its in Nakshatra of Guru and Guru is 6th lord so

its malefic. If you married during that period then either you would

have some problem or the other. Then the Maha/Antra changes to

MErcury/Mercury on Jan 18th 2001. The second and third highest

significators for marriage are Sun and Saturn. So when Sun transits

nakshatra of Saturn and Sun then Marriage can happen. This happens

during Jan 14th thru 27th. Now that just starts after Merc antra

starts. Hence I said you might have married in 2000-01.

Since there is no delay caused by Shani I narrowed it down to 1st

1/3rd period of Mercury's antra and that is why I chose 2000/01.

Now, you also have 1 zero point given by mars in 2nd house. Mars

rules 2nd and 7th house. Mars has finished its transit over Scorpio

recently. That could have given some problems regarding those

house. Sun with 4 bindus is in 2nd house and 2nd house creates

worries and Ketus antra is running now. Ketu represents Venus and

Sun so its period can cause worries. Since Sun is upchaya lord i.e.

11th hosue lord which is 6th from 6th house it will be regarding job

but its also eager to give results so it will be ok but period of

unnecesary tention is there.

Right now I am focussing on Ashtakavarga so I want to verify the

results and better myself with AV. I am sure principles of AV,

Parasara etc all work but my focus right now is on AV.

Please let me know your marriage date so that I can find out where I

went wrong.

Cheers !!!

Ash

, "Kumar, Suneet" <skumar03@e...>

wrote:

> OM HREEM GAM HREEM MAHAGANPATYE NAMAH SWAHA !

>

> Namaskar Ash,

>

> No this is not my marriage date.

>

> What logic did u applied here. If you had not tried the Timing of

marriage

> Principle in COVA, try that.

>

> Thanks

> Suneet

>

> ashsam73 [ashsam73@h...]

> Tuesday, 8 April 2003 10:44 AM

>

> [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] sjc delhi meet

>

> Dear Suneet,

> I just went through your chart for learning purposes.

> Just had a query. Did u marry in year 2000/Jan. I would say 14th

> thru 27th Jan 2000.

> Thanking you,

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> , "Kumar, Suneet"

<skumar03@e...>

> wrote:

> > OM HREEM GAM HREEM GAM GANPATYE NAMAH !

> >

> > Namaskar,

> > I am Suneet, from Delhi-SJC Group.

> > I am attaching mine and my wife's chart for the lagna of my wife

not

> > matching to the UL or trines to UL of 7th House to UL or its lord

> placed in

> > house in my chart. Plz have a look on that and enlighten our

> knowledge.

> >

> > Also as Jupiter is now direct from 4th Apr and Sat also entering

in

> Ge today

> > (8th Apr). I think this will be somebit doin some harm to my

> professional

> > career or atleast somebit frustation. Though it was all good till

> yesterday

> > but something came up today which affects me. I think it's Sat as

> it will

> > trasiting now in 12th from the natal chart position.

> >

> > Can you plz have a look on that and can suggest some remedy if

it's

> so.

> >

> > I will be thankful of you.

> >

> > Regards

> > Suneet

> >

> > naaraayana_iyer [narayan@s...]

> > Tuesday, 8 April 2003 7:41 AM

> >

> > [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] sjc delhi

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> > Ksheepa Om Swaha ||

> >

> > Dear Sarbani & Delhi SJC Group,

> >

> > Would you consider attaching the charts as is the protocol

followed

> > by other SJC Study Groups. THat way, it would be better!

> >

> > Thanks

> > Regards

> > Narayan

> >

> > , "Sarbani Sarkar"

> <sarbani@s...>

> > wrote:

> > > Dear Sarajit,

> > >

> > > Thanks for your explanations. I have one or two further

> > clarifications that

> > > I seek and which I have written below your comments.

> > >

> > > Best regards,

> > >

> > > Sarbani

> > >

> > > Jaya Jagannath

> > > Dear Prashant,

> > >

> > > I am missing the Delhi Group discussions. Anyway, my comments

are

> > as

> > > follows:

> > >

> > > Best Wishes

> > > Sarajit

> > >

> > > -

> > > prashant narang

> > >

> > > Tuesday, April 08, 2003 8:08 AM

> > > [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] sjc delhi meet

> > >

> > > Hi all,

> > >

> > > There was a sjc delhi meeting yesterday , and the topic

> > was "upapada".

> > > There were 5 students, sarbani, rohini ji, saroj ji, suneet ji,

&

> > myself

> > > prashant. We discussed 3-4 charts, analysed their married

life ,

> > mutual

> > > compatibility, tried to time separation & next marriage.

> > >

> > > A few points that we discussed.

> > >

> > > a.. planets in upapada will show the kind of spouse, there

> was

> > rahu in

> > > one of the examples, which indicated lower qualities of spouse.

> > Another

> > > person had mercury in upapada, his spouse is creative .

> > > Sarajit: While this is true, the influence of Rahu show that

> the

> > spouse

> > > can be of different culture. Along with this, do check up the

> > aspects on the

> > > UL. With Kind of Spouse, you meant, the "Nature and Qualities

of

> > the

> > > Spouse", I guess.

> > >

> > > Sarbani: Rahsi drishti of Sun and Mercury in Cancer from the

> > 6th. Sun is

> > > 7th lord. Graha drishti of Mars from the 7th.

> > >

> > > Didn't you check, where is UL placed wrt the lagna of the

> > native. This has

> > > manything to say on the role of spouse in the life of the

native

> > and few

> > > more things.

> > >

> > > Sarbani: UL is placed in the 10th for the chart under

> > discussion. Where

> > > can we find details about the effects of different house

> > placements of UL

> > > from Lagna? Jaimini?

> > > a.. Lord of upapada: its strength & location . it

shouldn't

> > b e in 8

> > > house, if in 9th house as it was in one of the examples, then

> wife

> > will be

> > > religious.

> > > Sarajit: Lord of the Spouse has many things to say about the

> > family of the

> > > Spouse. If the lord is deb/ exalted then the family will be a

> > poor/ well to

> > > do family. The relationship of the Lord with the UL shall show,

> the

> > > relationship of the spouse with the family. If the lord of UL

is

> > in the 9th

> > > from the Lagna, there would be very condusive relationship of

the

> > spouse

> > > family with the native. Wife would be religious if religious

> > planets apects

> > > or placed in the UL... Do consider AL as well...

> > >

> > > Sarbani: The lord is placed in the 7th in Maranakaraka

Sthana.

> > In lagna

> > > there is a retro Jupiter. And Mars is 11th from AL. What does

> this

> > show?

> > > a.. From 2nd house , we see longevity of marriage. Ju,

mo,

> > sun are

> > > considered to be good for marriage longevity. In one of the

> > examples there

> > > was no planet in 2nd from up, its lord was retrograde, the

house

> > was

> > > aspected by a malefic, but the lord was aspected by a benefic.

> > > Sarajit: Among Malefics, Rahu is the most diabolical as it

can

> > eclipse

> > > both Jup or Sun. It is aspecting or associating with the 2nd

from

> > UL without

> > > any benefic influence, then there is danger to married life.

> > >

> > > Sarbani: Rahu in UL will give its 12th aspect on the 2nd from

> > UL, won't

> > > it? And that will ruin the married life? There is also aspect

of

> > Saturn on

> > > the 2nd from UL.

> > > a.. We tried to time divorce in a case by transit of

malefics

> > & jupitor

> > > , their aspect on 2nd from up.

> > > Sarajit: Transit Jup's aspect on 2nd from UL, shall make the

> > bond stronger

> > > and will not give divorce.

> > >

> > > Sarbani: This is what we discussed at length. Although

Saturn

> is

> > > aspecting the 2nd from UL (the 11th) from the 5th now. For your

> > benefit

> > > (Birth data and name witheld on request): Asc: Aq. with (Jup),

> > 4th: Ketu,

> > > 5th: Venus, Saturn, 6th: Mercury, Sun, 7th: Mars, 10th: Rahu,

> > 12th: Moon.

> > > AL: Libra, UL: Scorpio, AK: (Jup).

> > >

> > > There were some doubts.

> > >

> > > *If someone is not happy with the marriage , then their

divorce

> > will be

> > > caused by malefics or transit of benefics?

> > >

> > > Sarajit: Transiting benefics would not cause divorce.

> > >

> > > a.. we coulnd't find spouse's lagna in one of the charts

> from

> > trines of

> > > ul, nor 7th from it , or the sign its lord is in (as per

> COVA

> > which we

> > > were following) .

> > > Sarajit: In such cases, the relationship will not be

> harmonious.

> > In such

> > > charts look for affliction to 2nd from UL. If there were

> influence

> > of

> > > Benefics on the 2nd from UL, then ultimately the native gets

one

> > spouse,

> > > whose Lagna shall fall in trine to his/ her own UL.

> > >

> > > Along with trine, check the 7th from UL and Paka Upapada

Lagna.

> > >

> > > What about benefics which are functional malefics, lord of

> 8th

> > house in

> > > context to 2nd from up.

> > >

> > > Sarajit: Take the Natural Benefics and Malefics only in this

> > context.

> > >

> > > with regards

> > > prashant

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April 8, 2003

Dear Narayan,

We discussed one chart in great detail. As I have written in my mail to Sarajit,

the native wanted her data and name withheld. So I had written down the chart

details manually in the mail. Please see that. There were two other charts

which were touched upon very briefly.

Sarbani

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[narayan (AT) (DOT) org]Tuesday, April 08, 2003 5:11 PMTo:

Subject: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta

Gurukul] sjc delhi meetKsheepa Om Swaha ||Dear Sarbani & Delhi SJC Group,Would

you consider attaching the charts as is the protocol followed by other SJC

Study Groups. THat way, it would be better!ThanksRegardsNarayan--- In

, "Sarbani Sarkar" <sarbani@s...> wrote:> Dear

Sarajit,> > Thanks for your explanations. I have one or two further

clarifications that> I seek and which I have written below your comments.> >

Best regards,> > Sarbani> > Jaya Jagannath> Dear Prashant,> > I am missing the

Delhi Group discussions. Anyway, my comments are as> follows:> > Best Wishes>

Sarajit> > > -> prashant narang> To:

> Tuesday, April 08, 2003 8:08 AM>

[sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] sjc delhi meet> > > Hi all,> > There was a

sjc delhi meeting yesterday , and the topic was "upapada".> There were 5

students, sarbani, rohini ji, saroj ji, suneet ji, & myself> prashant. We

discussed 3-4 charts, analysed their married life , mutual> compatibility,

tried to time separation & next marriage.> > A few points that we

discussed.> > a.. planets in upapada will show the kind of spouse, there

was rahu in> one of the examples, which indicated lower qualities of spouse.

Another> person had mercury in upapada, his spouse is creative .> Sarajit:

While this is true, the influence of Rahu show that the spouse> can be of

different culture. Along with this, do check up the aspects on the> UL. With

Kind of Spouse, you meant, the "Nature and Qualities of the> Spouse", I guess.>

> Sarbani: Rahsi drishti of Sun and Mercury in Cancer from the 6th. Sun is>

7th lord. Graha drishti of Mars from the 7th.> > Didn't you check, where is

UL placed wrt the lagna of the native. This has> manything to say on the role

of spouse in the life of the native and few> more things.> > Sarbani: UL is

placed in the 10th for the chart under discussion. Where> can we find details

about the effects of different house placements of UL> from Lagna? Jaimini?>

a.. Lord of upapada: its strength & location . it shouldn't b e in 8> house,

if in 9th house as it was in one of the examples, then wife will be> religious.>

Sarajit: Lord of the Spouse has many things to say about the family of the>

Spouse. If the lord is deb/ exalted then the family will be a poor/ well to> do

family. The relationship of the Lord with the UL shall show, the> relationship

of the spouse with the family. If the lord of UL is in the 9th> from the Lagna,

there would be very condusive relationship of the spouse> family with the

native. Wife would be religious if religious planets apects> or placed in the

UL... Do consider AL as well...> > Sarbani: The lord is placed in the 7th in

Maranakaraka Sthana. In lagna> there is a retro Jupiter. And Mars is 11th from

AL. What does this show?> a.. From 2nd house , we see longevity of

marriage. Ju, mo, sun are> considered to be good for marriage longevity. In

one of the examples there> was no planet in 2nd from up, its lord was

retrograde, the house was> aspected by a malefic, but the lord was aspected by

a benefic.> Sarajit: Among Malefics, Rahu is the most diabolical as it can

eclipse> both Jup or Sun. It is aspecting or associating with the 2nd from UL

without> any benefic influence, then there is danger to married life.> >

Sarbani: Rahu in UL will give its 12th aspect on the 2nd from UL, won't> it?

And that will ruin the married life? There is also aspect of Saturn on> the 2nd

from UL.> a.. We tried to time divorce in a case by transit of malefics &

jupitor> , their aspect on 2nd from up.> Sarajit: Transit Jup's aspect on 2nd

from UL, shall make the bond stronger> and will not give divorce.> > Sarbani:

This is what we discussed at length. Although Saturn is> aspecting the 2nd from

UL (the 11th) from the 5th now. For your benefit> (Birth data and name witheld

on request): Asc: Aq. with (Jup), 4th: Ketu,> 5th: Venus, Saturn, 6th: Mercury,

Sun, 7th: Mars, 10th: Rahu, 12th: Moon.> AL: Libra, UL: Scorpio, AK: (Jup).> >

There were some doubts.> > *If someone is not happy with the marriage , then

their divorce will be> caused by malefics or transit of benefics?> > > >

Sarajit: Transiting benefics would not cause divorce.> > a.. we coulnd't

find spouse's lagna in one of the charts from trines of> ul, nor 7th from

it , or the sign its lord is in (as per COVA which we> were following) .>

Sarajit: In such cases, the relationship will not be harmonious. In such>

charts look for affliction to 2nd from UL. If there were influence of> Benefics

on the 2nd from UL, then ultimately the native gets one spouse,> whose Lagna

shall fall in trine to his/ her own UL.> > Along with trine, check the 7th

from UL and Paka Upapada Lagna.> > What about benefics which are functional

malefics, lord of 8th house in> context to 2nd from up.> > Sarajit: Take the

Natural Benefics and Malefics only in this context.> > with regards>

prashant> > > > > > > > > >

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April 8, 2003

Dear Suneet,

I donot understand why you think that this period would harm your carear.

You are running Mer-Mer-Sat. Sat is your lord of 4th and 5th thus Yogakaraka and

in transit now he is lord of 5th in 9th aspecting 11th.Transit Jupiter is

exalted and aspects natal Jupiter and 2nd house besides 4th.

Barring some health problms to your fatheror misunderstanding with him, I think

you should not worry.

Chandrashekhar.

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Cc: naaraayana_iyer

Tuesday, April 08, 2003 6:53 PM

RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] sjc delhi meet

OM HREEM GAM HREEM GAM GANPATYE NAMAH !Namaskar,I am Suneet, from Delhi-SJC

Group.I am attaching mine and my wife's chart for the lagna of my wife

notmatching to the UL or trines to UL of 7th House to UL or its lord placed

inhouse in my chart. Plz have a look on that and enlighten our knowledge. Also

as Jupiter is now direct from 4th Apr and Sat also entering in Ge today(8th

Apr). I think this will be somebit doin some harm to my professionalcareer or

atleast somebit frustation. Though it was all good till yesterdaybut something

came up today which affects me. I think it's Sat as it willtrasiting now in

12th from the natal chart position. Can you plz have a look on that and can

suggest some remedy if it's so.I will be thankful of

you.RegardsSuneetnaaraayana_iyer

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