Guest guest Posted March 17, 2003 Report Share Posted March 17, 2003 SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM JAGAT AUM GURUBYO NAMAH Respected members of SJC Mumbai Chapter, Chandrasekhar,Visti,R.K.Rangan & others, I could get time only now to go through the chart. I wish to submit my humble views/opinion on the chart of T.V.Magnet. Rasi chart:-Vrischika Lagna rises with three planets Sun,Buda & Retrograde Venus. Arudha Lagna falls in Virgo(ketu is construed to be stronger on account of the aspect of Guru & Buda on it). Lord of Arudha lagna buda ( represents acting/dancing talent) conjoins with Sun(representing success & fame - he is the lord of 10th) and Venus ( representing arts & theatre) in lagna and aspects 6th(service) where chaya graha ketu(lagna lord) is posited with A8 & A2(funds & finance). We get a picture about his career front. 2.Varnada lagna rises in the 2nd house. Varnada lagna in the 2nd house is very conducive to huge wealth & status. 3.Varnada lagna in the 2nd to Lagna/Sun is subject to the aspect of malefics Sani & Mars. This explains/indicates that the native has many beautiful wives.(J.S). Arudha lagna/Image: It is believed that the natives of Acquarius & Scorpio have dual images.If we consider in this case Cancer as his Arudha lagna(taking Mars as Lagna lord) both A7 & UL will be placed in 8th & 6th positions from it respectively. This 6/8 positions does not speak about marital harmony. Taking Virgo as Arudha lagna we find Guru & Ketu are placed on either sides of the 7th house from AL. This kartari/bhandan is construed to be tradional/spirtual pressures, by the native and he feels as though he is, rather his image, is being arrested on these grounds.Aggressive Mars in AL is ill at ease in Kanya and he is in readiness to exchange houses with Buda. Generally Retrograde venus in male chart and retrograde mars in female chart indicate abnormal approach towards marriage and marital affairs. Here venus is not only retrograde but also combust. Venus is also the 7th lord. Combustion indicates withdrawal of the fruits given. A7 is placed in 6th from AL(kanya) lord of which is ( rahu) placed in 12th to Lagna. Guru is not only Darakaraka but also lord of D 9 lagna. He is placed in the 11th to D 9 lagna alongwith mandi. The second from swamsa is subject to the aspect of venus, rahu,(sign dispositor of mars) moon, sun & ketu. >From dharmaamsa shall we have a peep into his Shastyamsa(past life); Lord of 9th in Rasi is Moon is placed in Maya shastyamsa. Lord of 9th Venus in Shastyamsa is placed in kala pravaka shastyamsa. Maya means deceit while kala pravaka means destructive fire. Both are placed in the 7th house. Lagna lord is placed alongwith ketu in mesha(in the third place from lagna - kama trikona) where UL,A7,A5 & Gulikha are also placed indicating love affairs, intoxication and uncontrolled sexual habits. Saturn causes bondage/attachment and resulting rebirth. These activities are closely watched rather absorbed by the Atmakaraka placed in 10th house. Here again the aggressive mars is placed in AL alongwith sun(utopian image). Mars and buda have exchanged their houses which position has been echoed in rasi chart also. His longevity in previous birth may be around 63 to 72 and he might have died of urinary infections/spermatorrhea( venus & moon in 3rd from AL subject to aspect of sani,ketu & rahu. As 8th lord buda has been placed in fixed sign he might have died in his home. On account of his birth speacialities applying parashari conditions three special dasas emerge. They are 1. Ashtottari 2. Dwisptati sama dasa and 3. shattrimsa sama dasa. Since buda is the Atmakaraka his dasa viz. Shattrimsa sama dasa has a definite say in this chart. This buda rules acting and dancing. Association of moon the 9th lord with rahu can give bad dreams apart from foreign travel and other indications. Astrologically yours, p.s.ramanarayanan. "vishwanatham" > > >[sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] 16th meeting proceedings, mumbai chapter >Sun, 16 Mar 2003 14:34:00 -0000 > > > > >Hare Rama Krishna > >Dear Visti guru, > >Your observations are pecise and a good learning experience for me. > >We at Mumbai group saw his skills from Navamsa and their connections >to 10th in Dasamsa and pronounced his profession as connected to >entertainment(Venus). we could not correctly answer the question - is >he in business or job? we thought he was in a job as his 6th was >significantly stronger (Rahu in exaltion)! > >In reality he acquired a small fortune from his father, who being >very strict made him work as an employee to start with. Afterwards >the native built it up several notches and ended up as one of the >richest billioners in USA! > >How come he ran his own business is still a doubt for me. Please >clarify. > >His non-belief in God is to such an extreme that he divirced his >wife, when she said she believed in God. You are right, he needs to >see a psychiatrist. > >Thanks & regards >viswanadham > > > >--- In , "Visti Larsen" >wrote: > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > > -- >------------ > > > > Dear Jk, > > Comments bellow. > > Best wishes > > Visti > > --- > > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org > > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org > > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org > > - > > j.k. dasgupta > > > > Cc: Dr.Ramchandani ; Praveen Kumar ; hmm_aha ; Aparna >Joshi ; Nandan Chakraborty ; Aroona ; Achar, Prashant ; >vishwanatham ; Ashwin Hirani ; Anand ; Sunil John ; tushar narottam >kapadia ; Raj Upadhyay ; aparna vedula ; Dr. Sarma > > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 8:04 AM > > [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] 16th meeting proceedings, mumbai >chapter > > > > > > Respected Gurus and all learned list members, > > > > Our 16th meeting was held on 2.3..03. The same was attended by, > > > > 1. Anand Sonde > > 2. Kulkarni (new member) > > 3. Praveen > > 4. Sunil John > > 5. Viswanatham > > 6. Dasgupta > > > > We had discussion on 1 horoscope. The same is attached herewith >in jhl4.1 format. Doubts faced during the discussion are sumerised >below in bold red, for which we look forward for guidance. > > =============================================== > > Chart of a TV magnet: > > 19.11.1938 > > 8:50pm > > 84W27, 39N09 > > Tz: 5.00 west of GMT > > > > 1. Proffession: > > > > He is an independent business magnet connected to TV media. His >7H in both D1 and D10 is not that strong. AV strenghts are as follows > > > > D1 6H: 28 aspected by Jup (2L & 5L), Sun (10L), Ven (7L & 12L) >and Mer (8L & 11L) and also A10 > > D1 7H: 19 aspected by Rahu & Moon from 12H. Please note that Moon >is badhakesh here > > D10 6H: 32 with A10 as well as exaulted Rahu in it & aspected by >Mer (6L & 9L), Mars (4L & 11L)..of course Mars is badhakesh here > > D10 7H: 27 aspected by Jup (12L & 3L) & Moon (7L) > > > > Also in D10, he has Jup & Rahu in artha trikona. only affirmative >combination in D10 is 10L ven is with 8L Sun in 8H with GL > > > > With this combination..can his proffession be explained, if it is >not known earlier? it seems that known principles are not working >here. > > > > Visti: What does 'connected to tv-media' mean? In his Rasi, >the 11th from Arudha Lagna is aspected by Venus, Sun, Mercury and >Jupiter, showing his gainful sources. > > The work he does is seen from Dasamsa, where Jup in 2nd ensures >that he has immense ability to make investments into other companies. >10th being a venusian sign shows abilities in management and >business, especially as Sun & Venus have rasi dristi on the 10th >house. > > Rahu in 6th shows work craving alot of thinking, and being in a >mercurial sign, it could mean coming up with ideas to sell >commercials. > > Theres more to Dasamsa when we look at the deities of the same, >you will note many planets in Brahma-amsa causing a very >materialistic angle to work in his life. > > > > 2. Wealth, name & fame: > > > > The person is world famous and very very wealthy. Here also we >see that general principles are knot showing that kind of wealth and >fame. of course there is a parivartana between 11L Mer and asc lord >Mars as well as between 5L Jup (it may be noted that Jup is in rashi >sandhi..so is strong to destroy indications of the houses connected) >and 4L retro Sat. The person has reached the level from an very >ordinary one. So for such rise.. some type of very strong yoga should >be present in the chart, which is not there. > > > > Visti: Jupiter is 5 seconds away from not being in Rasi >sandhi, otherwise its quite strong being in Aqua.. also note the >exchange between Jup and Saturn. The Srimantah Yoga in his lagna is >quite powerful. > > > > 3. Marriage: > > > > In D1, 2nd from UL is aspected by Sun, Mer & Ven. And in D9..2nd >from UL is aspected by Mer, Sun, Ketu & Moon. All are benefetial for >marriage. But he had 4 marriages. His last marriage has also broken. >How 4 marriages can be explained here? > > > > Visti: Look at the Upapada itself. The time period indicated >by the graha lording it can show how long the marriage lasted. > > Upapada is lorded by Jup who is in Marana Karaka Sthana from UL. >Jup lords a month, so a maximum of 12 months (1 year) could have been >the longevity of the marriage. > > 2nd one is indicated by cancer, lorded by Moon.. maximum 1 day i >dare say. > > 3rd is Aqua, here Jup is involved again. > > 4th is Virgo, 5th is aries.. This one looks somewhat stable. He >needs a psychiatrist. > > > > 4. Spirituality: > > > > Mer is AK and 8L/11L. It has parivartana with asc lord Mars. On >1st look..it can be declared.. he would be interested is astrology >and occult science. But he is not.. it is understood he is totally >against concept of religion, god and also very eccentric in his >behaviours. Has it happened due to the fact that Moon is severely >afflicted and Lagna lord Mars is in samasaptaka with Sat? > > > > Visti: In Katha Upanishad, its described that the mind is the >reins between the charioteer and the horses. Whilst the intellect is >the charioteer himself. If one doesn't hold the reins closely tight, >then the chariot is out of control, and the intelligence cannot guide >the native correctly. > > > > Similarly the mind is compared to water. If the waters are >unsteady, then one cannot see the soul beneath the same clearly. > > > > Moon indicates the mind of the native and their attitude towards >life. Rahu is joined Moon, whilst Moon is placed in the 12th house. >His waters are unsteady and the horses are out of control. > > > > 5. Children: > > > > In D7..asc is in even rashi. So counting backward..5th house is >Ta and lord Ven is in female rashi Gem. So 1st issue is a daughter. >Now Ven is retro..so should it not actually give a son? 3rd from Tau >is Pi (again counting backward) has Rahu... so no further issue. > > > > Visti: As i explained in my Saptaamsa lecture in Hyderabad, i >have not seen retrograde planets give opposite effects. Now look >again at the saptamsa lagna. it has ketu so it reverses the order and >5th house shows 1st child. lord is saturn in female rasi, hence 1st >issue is female.. its still retro, but still female. This girl may be >a lesbian. > > > > Please provide us guidance on the same. > > > > Regards > > > > dasgupta > > > Cricket World Cup 2003 News, Views and Match Reports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2003 Report Share Posted March 19, 2003 please dont sent any e mail this e mail address. Because this is a post office communication center.then we are very poblem your e mail. Then no any one collect you masseges. please diconnect our address your E mail addre list. Cheip Post master, Gampaha. - P.S. RAMANARAYANAN Monday, March 17, 2003 11:48 PM Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] 16th meeting proceedings, mumbai chapter SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM JAGAT AUM GURUBYO NAMAH Respected members of SJC Mumbai Chapter, Chandrasekhar,Visti,R.K.Rangan & others, I could get time only now to go through the chart. I wish to submit my humble views/opinion on the chart of T.V.Magnet. Rasi chart:-Vrischika Lagna rises with three planets Sun,Buda & Retrograde Venus. Arudha Lagna falls in Virgo(ketu is construed to be stronger on account of the aspect of Guru & Buda on it). Lord of Arudha lagna buda ( represents acting/dancing talent) conjoins with Sun(representing success & fame - he is the lord of 10th) and Venus ( representing arts & theatre) in lagna and aspects 6th(service) where chaya graha ketu(lagna lord) is posited with A8 & A2(funds & finance). We get a picture about his career front. 2.Varnada lagna rises in the 2nd house. Varnada lagna in the 2nd house is very conducive to huge wealth & status. 3.Varnada lagna in the 2nd to Lagna/Sun is subject to the aspect of malefics Sani & Mars. This explains/indicates that the native has many beautiful wives.(J.S). Arudha lagna/Image: It is believed that the natives of Acquarius & Scorpio have dual images.If we consider in this case Cancer as his Arudha lagna(taking Mars as Lagna lord) both A7 & UL will be placed in 8th & 6th positions from it respectively. This 6/8 positions does not speak about marital harmony. Taking Virgo as Arudha lagna we find Guru & Ketu are placed on either sides of the 7th house from AL. This kartari/bhandan is construed to be tradional/spirtual pressures, by the native and he feels as though he is, rather his image, is being arrested on these grounds.Aggressive Mars in AL is ill at ease in Kanya and he is in readiness to exchange houses with Buda. Generally Retrograde venus in male chart and retrograde mars in female chart indicate abnormal approach towards marriage and marital affairs. Here venus is not only retrograde but also combust. Venus is also the 7th lord. Combustion indicates withdrawal of the fruits given. A7 is placed in 6th from AL(kanya) lord of which is ( rahu) placed in 12th to Lagna. Guru is not only Darakaraka but also lord of D 9 lagna. He is placed in the 11th to D 9 lagna alongwith mandi. The second from swamsa is subject to the aspect of venus, rahu,(sign dispositor of mars) moon, sun & ketu. >From dharmaamsa shall we have a peep into his Shastyamsa(past life); Lord of 9th in Rasi is Moon is placed in Maya shastyamsa. Lord of 9th Venus in Shastyamsa is placed in kala pravaka shastyamsa. Maya means deceit while kala pravaka means destructive fire. Both are placed in the 7th house. Lagna lord is placed alongwith ketu in mesha(in the third place from lagna - kama trikona) where UL,A7,A5 & Gulikha are also placed indicating love affairs, intoxication and uncontrolled sexual habits. Saturn causes bondage/attachment and resulting rebirth. These activities are closely watched rather absorbed by the Atmakaraka placed in 10th house. Here again the aggressive mars is placed in AL alongwith sun(utopian image). Mars and buda have exchanged their houses which position has been echoed in rasi chart also. His longevity in previous birth may be around 63 to 72 and he might have died of urinary infections/spermatorrhea( venus & moon in 3rd from AL subject to aspect of sani,ketu & rahu. As 8th lord buda has been placed in fixed sign he might have died in his home. On account of his birth speacialities applying parashari conditions three special dasas emerge. They are 1. Ashtottari 2. Dwisptati sama dasa and 3. shattrimsa sama dasa. Since buda is the Atmakaraka his dasa viz. Shattrimsa sama dasa has a definite say in this chart. This buda rules acting and dancing. Association of moon the 9th lord with rahu can give bad dreams apart from foreign travel and other indications. Astrologically yours, p.s.ramanarayanan. "vishwanatham" > > >[sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] 16th meeting proceedings, mumbai chapter >Sun, 16 Mar 2003 14:34:00 -0000 > > > > >Hare Rama Krishna > >Dear Visti guru, > >Your observations are pecise and a good learning experience for me. > >We at Mumbai group saw his skills from Navamsa and their connections >to 10th in Dasamsa and pronounced his profession as connected to >entertainment(Venus). we could not correctly answer the question - is >he in business or job? we thought he was in a job as his 6th was >significantly stronger (Rahu in exaltion)! > >In reality he acquired a small fortune from his father, who being >very strict made him work as an employee to start with. Afterwards >the native built it up several notches and ended up as one of the >richest billioners in USA! > >How come he ran his own business is still a doubt for me. Please >clarify. > >His non-belief in God is to such an extreme that he divirced his >wife, when she said she believed in God. You are right, he needs to >see a psychiatrist. > >Thanks & regards >viswanadham > > > >--- In , "Visti Larsen" >wrote: > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > > -- >------------ > > > > Dear Jk, > > Comments bellow. > > Best wishes > > Visti > > --- > > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org > > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org > > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org > > - > > j.k. dasgupta > > > > Cc: Dr.Ramchandani ; Praveen Kumar ; hmm_aha ; Aparna >Joshi ; Nandan Chakraborty ; Aroona ; Achar, Prashant ; >vishwanatham ; Ashwin Hirani ; Anand ; Sunil John ; tushar narottam >kapadia ; Raj Upadhyay ; aparna vedula ; Dr. Sarma > > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 8:04 AM > > [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] 16th meeting proceedings, mumbai >chapter > > > > > > Respected Gurus and all learned list members, > > > > Our 16th meeting was held on 2.3..03. The same was attended by, > > > > 1. Anand Sonde > > 2. Kulkarni (new member) > > 3. Praveen > > 4. Sunil John > > 5. Viswanatham > > 6. Dasgupta > > > > We had discussion on 1 horoscope. The same is attached herewith >in jhl4.1 format. Doubts faced during the discussion are sumerised >below in bold red, for which we look forward for guidance. > > =============================================== > > Chart of a TV magnet: > > 19.11.1938 > > 8:50pm > > 84W27, 39N09 > > Tz: 5.00 west of GMT > > > > 1. Proffession: > > > > He is an independent business magnet connected to TV media. His >7H in both D1 and D10 is not that strong. AV strenghts are as follows > > > > D1 6H: 28 aspected by Jup (2L & 5L), Sun (10L), Ven (7L & 12L) >and Mer (8L & 11L) and also A10 > > D1 7H: 19 aspected by Rahu & Moon from 12H. Please note that Moon >is badhakesh here > > D10 6H: 32 with A10 as well as exaulted Rahu in it & aspected by >Mer (6L & 9L), Mars (4L & 11L)..of course Mars is badhakesh here > > D10 7H: 27 aspected by Jup (12L & 3L) & Moon (7L) > > > > Also in D10, he has Jup & Rahu in artha trikona. only affirmative >combination in D10 is 10L ven is with 8L Sun in 8H with GL > > > > With this combination..can his proffession be explained, if it is >not known earlier? it seems that known principles are not working >here. > > > > Visti: What does 'connected to tv-media' mean? In his Rasi, >the 11th from Arudha Lagna is aspected by Venus, Sun, Mercury and >Jupiter, showing his gainful sources. > > The work he does is seen from Dasamsa, where Jup in 2nd ensures >that he has immense ability to make investments into other companies. >10th being a venusian sign shows abilities in management and >business, especially as Sun & Venus have rasi dristi on the 10th >house. > > Rahu in 6th shows work craving alot of thinking, and being in a >mercurial sign, it could mean coming up with ideas to sell >commercials. > > Theres more to Dasamsa when we look at the deities of the same, >you will note many planets in Brahma-amsa causing a very >materialistic angle to work in his life. > > > > 2. Wealth, name & fame: > > > > The person is world famous and very very wealthy. Here also we >see that general principles are knot showing that kind of wealth and >fame. of course there is a parivartana between 11L Mer and asc lord >Mars as well as between 5L Jup (it may be noted that Jup is in rashi >sandhi..so is strong to destroy indications of the houses connected) >and 4L retro Sat. The person has reached the level from an very >ordinary one. So for such rise.. some type of very strong yoga should >be present in the chart, which is not there. > > > > Visti: Jupiter is 5 seconds away from not being in Rasi >sandhi, otherwise its quite strong being in Aqua.. also note the >exchange between Jup and Saturn. The Srimantah Yoga in his lagna is >quite powerful. > > > > 3. Marriage: > > > > In D1, 2nd from UL is aspected by Sun, Mer & Ven. And in D9..2nd >from UL is aspected by Mer, Sun, Ketu & Moon. All are benefetial for >marriage. But he had 4 marriages. His last marriage has also broken. >How 4 marriages can be explained here? > > > > Visti: Look at the Upapada itself. The time period indicated >by the graha lording it can show how long the marriage lasted. > > Upapada is lorded by Jup who is in Marana Karaka Sthana from UL. >Jup lords a month, so a maximum of 12 months (1 year) could have been >the longevity of the marriage. > > 2nd one is indicated by cancer, lorded by Moon.. maximum 1 day i >dare say. > > 3rd is Aqua, here Jup is involved again. > > 4th is Virgo, 5th is aries.. This one looks somewhat stable. He >needs a psychiatrist. > > > > 4. Spirituality: > > > > Mer is AK and 8L/11L. It has parivartana with asc lord Mars. On >1st look..it can be declared.. he would be interested is astrology >and occult science. But he is not.. it is understood he is totally >against concept of religion, god and also very eccentric in his >behaviours. Has it happened due to the fact that Moon is severely >afflicted and Lagna lord Mars is in samasaptaka with Sat? > > > > Visti: In Katha Upanishad, its described that the mind is the >reins between the charioteer and the horses. Whilst the intellect is >the charioteer himself. If one doesn't hold the reins closely tight, >then the chariot is out of control, and the intelligence cannot guide >the native correctly. > > > > Similarly the mind is compared to water. If the waters are >unsteady, then one cannot see the soul beneath the same clearly. > > > > Moon indicates the mind of the native and their attitude towards >life. Rahu is joined Moon, whilst Moon is placed in the 12th house. >His waters are unsteady and the horses are out of control. > > > > 5. Children: > > > > In D7..asc is in even rashi. So counting backward..5th house is >Ta and lord Ven is in female rashi Gem. So 1st issue is a daughter. >Now Ven is retro..so should it not actually give a son? 3rd from Tau >is Pi (again counting backward) has Rahu... so no further issue. > > > > Visti: As i explained in my Saptaamsa lecture in Hyderabad, i >have not seen retrograde planets give opposite effects. Now look >again at the saptamsa lagna. it has ketu so it reverses the order and >5th house shows 1st child. lord is saturn in female rasi, hence 1st >issue is female.. its still retro, but still female. This girl may be >a lesbian. > > > > Please provide us guidance on the same. > > > > Regards > > > > dasgupta > > > Cricket World Cup 2003 News, Views and Match Reports. [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]Send a blank mailTo : -To : Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Thanks K.Heenkenda SJC-Sri Lanka - post office gampaha Wednesday, March 19, 2003 8:15 PM Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] 16th meeting proceedings, mumbai chapter please dont sent any e mail this e mail address. Because this is a post office communication center.then we are very poblem your e mail. Then no any one collect you masseges. please diconnect our address your E mail addre list. Cheip Post master, Gampaha. - P.S. RAMANARAYANAN Monday, March 17, 2003 11:48 PM Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] 16th meeting proceedings, mumbai chapter SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM JAGAT AUM GURUBYO NAMAH Respected members of SJC Mumbai Chapter, Chandrasekhar,Visti,R.K.Rangan & others, I could get time only now to go through the chart. I wish to submit my humble views/opinion on the chart of T.V.Magnet. Rasi chart:-Vrischika Lagna rises with three planets Sun,Buda & Retrograde Venus. Arudha Lagna falls in Virgo(ketu is construed to be stronger on account of the aspect of Guru & Buda on it). Lord of Arudha lagna buda ( represents acting/dancing talent) conjoins with Sun(representing success & fame - he is the lord of 10th) and Venus ( representing arts & theatre) in lagna and aspects 6th(service) where chaya graha ketu(lagna lord) is posited with A8 & A2(funds & finance). We get a picture about his career front. 2.Varnada lagna rises in the 2nd house. Varnada lagna in the 2nd house is very conducive to huge wealth & status. 3.Varnada lagna in the 2nd to Lagna/Sun is subject to the aspect of malefics Sani & Mars. This explains/indicates that the native has many beautiful wives.(J.S). Arudha lagna/Image: It is believed that the natives of Acquarius & Scorpio have dual images.If we consider in this case Cancer as his Arudha lagna(taking Mars as Lagna lord) both A7 & UL will be placed in 8th & 6th positions from it respectively. This 6/8 positions does not speak about marital harmony. Taking Virgo as Arudha lagna we find Guru & Ketu are placed on either sides of the 7th house from AL. This kartari/bhandan is construed to be tradional/spirtual pressures, by the native and he feels as though he is, rather his image, is being arrested on these grounds.Aggressive Mars in AL is ill at ease in Kanya and he is in readiness to exchange houses with Buda. Generally Retrograde venus in male chart and retrograde mars in female chart indicate abnormal approach towards marriage and marital affairs. Here venus is not only retrograde but also combust. Venus is also the 7th lord. Combustion indicates withdrawal of the fruits given. A7 is placed in 6th from AL(kanya) lord of which is ( rahu) placed in 12th to Lagna. Guru is not only Darakaraka but also lord of D 9 lagna. He is placed in the 11th to D 9 lagna alongwith mandi. The second from swamsa is subject to the aspect of venus, rahu,(sign dispositor of mars) moon, sun & ketu. >From dharmaamsa shall we have a peep into his Shastyamsa(past life); Lord of 9th in Rasi is Moon is placed in Maya shastyamsa. Lord of 9th Venus in Shastyamsa is placed in kala pravaka shastyamsa. Maya means deceit while kala pravaka means destructive fire. Both are placed in the 7th house. Lagna lord is placed alongwith ketu in mesha(in the third place from lagna - kama trikona) where UL,A7,A5 & Gulikha are also placed indicating love affairs, intoxication and uncontrolled sexual habits. Saturn causes bondage/attachment and resulting rebirth. These activities are closely watched rather absorbed by the Atmakaraka placed in 10th house. Here again the aggressive mars is placed in AL alongwith sun(utopian image). Mars and buda have exchanged their houses which position has been echoed in rasi chart also. His longevity in previous birth may be around 63 to 72 and he might have died of urinary infections/spermatorrhea( venus & moon in 3rd from AL subject to aspect of sani,ketu & rahu. As 8th lord buda has been placed in fixed sign he might have died in his home. On account of his birth speacialities applying parashari conditions three special dasas emerge. They are 1. Ashtottari 2. Dwisptati sama dasa and 3. shattrimsa sama dasa. Since buda is the Atmakaraka his dasa viz. Shattrimsa sama dasa has a definite say in this chart. This buda rules acting and dancing. Association of moon the 9th lord with rahu can give bad dreams apart from foreign travel and other indications. Astrologically yours, p.s.ramanarayanan. "vishwanatham" > > >[sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] 16th meeting proceedings, mumbai chapter >Sun, 16 Mar 2003 14:34:00 -0000 > > > > >Hare Rama Krishna > >Dear Visti guru, > >Your observations are pecise and a good learning experience for me. > >We at Mumbai group saw his skills from Navamsa and their connections >to 10th in Dasamsa and pronounced his profession as connected to >entertainment(Venus). we could not correctly answer the question - is >he in business or job? we thought he was in a job as his 6th was >significantly stronger (Rahu in exaltion)! > >In reality he acquired a small fortune from his father, who being >very strict made him work as an employee to start with. Afterwards >the native built it up several notches and ended up as one of the >richest billioners in USA! > >How come he ran his own business is still a doubt for me. Please >clarify. > >His non-belief in God is to such an extreme that he divirced his >wife, when she said she believed in God. You are right, he needs to >see a psychiatrist. > >Thanks & regards >viswanadham > > > >--- In , "Visti Larsen" >wrote: > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > > -- >------------ > > > > Dear Jk, > > Comments bellow. > > Best wishes > > Visti > > --- > > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org > > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org > > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org > > - > > j.k. dasgupta > > > > Cc: Dr.Ramchandani ; Praveen Kumar ; hmm_aha ; Aparna >Joshi ; Nandan Chakraborty ; Aroona ; Achar, Prashant ; >vishwanatham ; Ashwin Hirani ; Anand ; Sunil John ; tushar narottam >kapadia ; Raj Upadhyay ; aparna vedula ; Dr. Sarma > > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 8:04 AM > > [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] 16th meeting proceedings, mumbai >chapter > > > > > > Respected Gurus and all learned list members, > > > > Our 16th meeting was held on 2.3..03. The same was attended by, > > > > 1. Anand Sonde > > 2. Kulkarni (new member) > > 3. Praveen > > 4. Sunil John > > 5. Viswanatham > > 6. Dasgupta > > > > We had discussion on 1 horoscope. The same is attached herewith >in jhl4.1 format. Doubts faced during the discussion are sumerised >below in bold red, for which we look forward for guidance. > > =============================================== > > Chart of a TV magnet: > > 19.11.1938 > > 8:50pm > > 84W27, 39N09 > > Tz: 5.00 west of GMT > > > > 1. Proffession: > > > > He is an independent business magnet connected to TV media. His >7H in both D1 and D10 is not that strong. AV strenghts are as follows > > > > D1 6H: 28 aspected by Jup (2L & 5L), Sun (10L), Ven (7L & 12L) >and Mer (8L & 11L) and also A10 > > D1 7H: 19 aspected by Rahu & Moon from 12H. Please note that Moon >is badhakesh here > > D10 6H: 32 with A10 as well as exaulted Rahu in it & aspected by >Mer (6L & 9L), Mars (4L & 11L)..of course Mars is badhakesh here > > D10 7H: 27 aspected by Jup (12L & 3L) & Moon (7L) > > > > Also in D10, he has Jup & Rahu in artha trikona. only affirmative >combination in D10 is 10L ven is with 8L Sun in 8H with GL > > > > With this combination..can his proffession be explained, if it is >not known earlier? it seems that known principles are not working >here. > > > > Visti: What does 'connected to tv-media' mean? In his Rasi, >the 11th from Arudha Lagna is aspected by Venus, Sun, Mercury and >Jupiter, showing his gainful sources. > > The work he does is seen from Dasamsa, where Jup in 2nd ensures >that he has immense ability to make investments into other companies. >10th being a venusian sign shows abilities in management and >business, especially as Sun & Venus have rasi dristi on the 10th >house. > > Rahu in 6th shows work craving alot of thinking, and being in a >mercurial sign, it could mean coming up with ideas to sell >commercials. > > Theres more to Dasamsa when we look at the deities of the same, >you will note many planets in Brahma-amsa causing a very >materialistic angle to work in his life. > > > > 2. Wealth, name & fame: > > > > The person is world famous and very very wealthy. Here also we >see that general principles are knot showing that kind of wealth and >fame. of course there is a parivartana between 11L Mer and asc lord >Mars as well as between 5L Jup (it may be noted that Jup is in rashi >sandhi..so is strong to destroy indications of the houses connected) >and 4L retro Sat. The person has reached the level from an very >ordinary one. So for such rise.. some type of very strong yoga should >be present in the chart, which is not there. > > > > Visti: Jupiter is 5 seconds away from not being in Rasi >sandhi, otherwise its quite strong being in Aqua.. also note the >exchange between Jup and Saturn. The Srimantah Yoga in his lagna is >quite powerful. > > > > 3. Marriage: > > > > In D1, 2nd from UL is aspected by Sun, Mer & Ven. And in D9..2nd >from UL is aspected by Mer, Sun, Ketu & Moon. All are benefetial for >marriage. But he had 4 marriages. His last marriage has also broken. >How 4 marriages can be explained here? > > > > Visti: Look at the Upapada itself. The time period indicated >by the graha lording it can show how long the marriage lasted. > > Upapada is lorded by Jup who is in Marana Karaka Sthana from UL. >Jup lords a month, so a maximum of 12 months (1 year) could have been >the longevity of the marriage. > > 2nd one is indicated by cancer, lorded by Moon.. maximum 1 day i >dare say. > > 3rd is Aqua, here Jup is involved again. > > 4th is Virgo, 5th is aries.. This one looks somewhat stable. He >needs a psychiatrist. > > > > 4. Spirituality: > > > > Mer is AK and 8L/11L. It has parivartana with asc lord Mars. On >1st look..it can be declared.. he would be interested is astrology >and occult science. But he is not.. it is understood he is totally >against concept of religion, god and also very eccentric in his >behaviours. Has it happened due to the fact that Moon is severely >afflicted and Lagna lord Mars is in samasaptaka with Sat? > > > > Visti: In Katha Upanishad, its described that the mind is the >reins between the charioteer and the horses. Whilst the intellect is >the charioteer himself. If one doesn't hold the reins closely tight, >then the chariot is out of control, and the intelligence cannot guide >the native correctly. > > > > Similarly the mind is compared to water. If the waters are >unsteady, then one cannot see the soul beneath the same clearly. > > > > Moon indicates the mind of the native and their attitude towards >life. Rahu is joined Moon, whilst Moon is placed in the 12th house. >His waters are unsteady and the horses are out of control. > > > > 5. Children: > > > > In D7..asc is in even rashi. So counting backward..5th house is >Ta and lord Ven is in female rashi Gem. So 1st issue is a daughter. >Now Ven is retro..so should it not actually give a son? 3rd from Tau >is Pi (again counting backward) has Rahu... so no further issue. > > > > Visti: As i explained in my Saptaamsa lecture in Hyderabad, i >have not seen retrograde planets give opposite effects. Now look >again at the saptamsa lagna. it has ketu so it reverses the order and >5th house shows 1st child. lord is saturn in female rasi, hence 1st >issue is female.. its still retro, but still female. This girl may be >a lesbian. > > > > Please provide us guidance on the same. > > > > Regards > > > > dasgupta > > > Cricket World Cup 2003 News, Views and Match Reports. [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]Send a blank mailTo : -To : Your use of is subject to the [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]Send a blank mailTo : -To : Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2003 Report Share Posted March 19, 2003 dear Mr. Ramanarayan, very good and elaborate analysis. thank you very much for trying the chart and providing more insight regards dasgupta. - P.S. RAMANARAYANAN Monday, March 17, 2003 11:18 PM Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] 16th meeting proceedings, mumbai chapter SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM JAGAT AUM GURUBYO NAMAH Respected members of SJC Mumbai Chapter, Chandrasekhar,Visti,R.K.Rangan & others, I could get time only now to go through the chart. I wish to submit my humble views/opinion on the chart of T.V.Magnet. Rasi chart:-Vrischika Lagna rises with three planets Sun,Buda & Retrograde Venus. Arudha Lagna falls in Virgo(ketu is construed to be stronger on account of the aspect of Guru & Buda on it). Lord of Arudha lagna buda ( represents acting/dancing talent) conjoins with Sun(representing success & fame - he is the lord of 10th) and Venus ( representing arts & theatre) in lagna and aspects 6th(service) where chaya graha ketu(lagna lord) is posited with A8 & A2(funds & finance). We get a picture about his career front. 2.Varnada lagna rises in the 2nd house. Varnada lagna in the 2nd house is very conducive to huge wealth & status. 3.Varnada lagna in the 2nd to Lagna/Sun is subject to the aspect of malefics Sani & Mars. This explains/indicates that the native has many beautiful wives.(J.S). Arudha lagna/Image: It is believed that the natives of Acquarius & Scorpio have dual images.If we consider in this case Cancer as his Arudha lagna(taking Mars as Lagna lord) both A7 & UL will be placed in 8th & 6th positions from it respectively. This 6/8 positions does not speak about marital harmony. Taking Virgo as Arudha lagna we find Guru & Ketu are placed on either sides of the 7th house from AL. This kartari/bhandan is construed to be tradional/spirtual pressures, by the native and he feels as though he is, rather his image, is being arrested on these grounds.Aggressive Mars in AL is ill at ease in Kanya and he is in readiness to exchange houses with Buda. Generally Retrograde venus in male chart and retrograde mars in female chart indicate abnormal approach towards marriage and marital affairs. Here venus is not only retrograde but also combust. Venus is also the 7th lord. Combustion indicates withdrawal of the fruits given. A7 is placed in 6th from AL(kanya) lord of which is ( rahu) placed in 12th to Lagna. Guru is not only Darakaraka but also lord of D 9 lagna. He is placed in the 11th to D 9 lagna alongwith mandi. The second from swamsa is subject to the aspect of venus, rahu,(sign dispositor of mars) moon, sun & ketu. >From dharmaamsa shall we have a peep into his Shastyamsa(past life); Lord of 9th in Rasi is Moon is placed in Maya shastyamsa. Lord of 9th Venus in Shastyamsa is placed in kala pravaka shastyamsa. Maya means deceit while kala pravaka means destructive fire. Both are placed in the 7th house. Lagna lord is placed alongwith ketu in mesha(in the third place from lagna - kama trikona) where UL,A7,A5 & Gulikha are also placed indicating love affairs, intoxication and uncontrolled sexual habits. Saturn causes bondage/attachment and resulting rebirth. These activities are closely watched rather absorbed by the Atmakaraka placed in 10th house. Here again the aggressive mars is placed in AL alongwith sun(utopian image). Mars and buda have exchanged their houses which position has been echoed in rasi chart also. His longevity in previous birth may be around 63 to 72 and he might have died of urinary infections/spermatorrhea( venus & moon in 3rd from AL subject to aspect of sani,ketu & rahu. As 8th lord buda has been placed in fixed sign he might have died in his home. On account of his birth speacialities applying parashari conditions three special dasas emerge. They are 1. Ashtottari 2. Dwisptati sama dasa and 3. shattrimsa sama dasa. Since buda is the Atmakaraka his dasa viz. Shattrimsa sama dasa has a definite say in this chart. This buda rules acting and dancing. Association of moon the 9th lord with rahu can give bad dreams apart from foreign travel and other indications. Astrologically yours, p.s.ramanarayanan. "vishwanatham" > > >[sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] 16th meeting proceedings, mumbai chapter >Sun, 16 Mar 2003 14:34:00 -0000 > > > > >Hare Rama Krishna > >Dear Visti guru, > >Your observations are pecise and a good learning experience for me. > >We at Mumbai group saw his skills from Navamsa and their connections >to 10th in Dasamsa and pronounced his profession as connected to >entertainment(Venus). we could not correctly answer the question - is >he in business or job? we thought he was in a job as his 6th was >significantly stronger (Rahu in exaltion)! > >In reality he acquired a small fortune from his father, who being >very strict made him work as an employee to start with. Afterwards >the native built it up several notches and ended up as one of the >richest billioners in USA! > >How come he ran his own business is still a doubt for me. Please >clarify. > >His non-belief in God is to such an extreme that he divirced his >wife, when she said she believed in God. You are right, he needs to >see a psychiatrist. > >Thanks & regards >viswanadham > > > >--- In , "Visti Larsen" >wrote: > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > > -- >------------ > > > > Dear Jk, > > Comments bellow. > > Best wishes > > Visti > > --- > > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org > > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org > > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org > > - > > j.k. dasgupta > > > > Cc: Dr.Ramchandani ; Praveen Kumar ; hmm_aha ; Aparna >Joshi ; Nandan Chakraborty ; Aroona ; Achar, Prashant ; >vishwanatham ; Ashwin Hirani ; Anand ; Sunil John ; tushar narottam >kapadia ; Raj Upadhyay ; aparna vedula ; Dr. Sarma > > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 8:04 AM > > [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] 16th meeting proceedings, mumbai >chapter > > > > > > Respected Gurus and all learned list members, > > > > Our 16th meeting was held on 2.3..03. The same was attended by, > > > > 1. Anand Sonde > > 2. Kulkarni (new member) > > 3. Praveen > > 4. Sunil John > > 5. Viswanatham > > 6. Dasgupta > > > > We had discussion on 1 horoscope. The same is attached herewith >in jhl4.1 format. Doubts faced during the discussion are sumerised >below in bold red, for which we look forward for guidance. > > =============================================== > > Chart of a TV magnet: > > 19.11.1938 > > 8:50pm > > 84W27, 39N09 > > Tz: 5.00 west of GMT > > > > 1. Proffession: > > > > He is an independent business magnet connected to TV media. His >7H in both D1 and D10 is not that strong. AV strenghts are as follows > > > > D1 6H: 28 aspected by Jup (2L & 5L), Sun (10L), Ven (7L & 12L) >and Mer (8L & 11L) and also A10 > > D1 7H: 19 aspected by Rahu & Moon from 12H. Please note that Moon >is badhakesh here > > D10 6H: 32 with A10 as well as exaulted Rahu in it & aspected by >Mer (6L & 9L), Mars (4L & 11L)..of course Mars is badhakesh here > > D10 7H: 27 aspected by Jup (12L & 3L) & Moon (7L) > > > > Also in D10, he has Jup & Rahu in artha trikona. only affirmative >combination in D10 is 10L ven is with 8L Sun in 8H with GL > > > > With this combination..can his proffession be explained, if it is >not known earlier? it seems that known principles are not working >here. > > > > Visti: What does 'connected to tv-media' mean? In his Rasi, >the 11th from Arudha Lagna is aspected by Venus, Sun, Mercury and >Jupiter, showing his gainful sources. > > The work he does is seen from Dasamsa, where Jup in 2nd ensures >that he has immense ability to make investments into other companies. >10th being a venusian sign shows abilities in management and >business, especially as Sun & Venus have rasi dristi on the 10th >house. > > Rahu in 6th shows work craving alot of thinking, and being in a >mercurial sign, it could mean coming up with ideas to sell >commercials. > > Theres more to Dasamsa when we look at the deities of the same, >you will note many planets in Brahma-amsa causing a very >materialistic angle to work in his life. > > > > 2. Wealth, name & fame: > > > > The person is world famous and very very wealthy. Here also we >see that general principles are knot showing that kind of wealth and >fame. of course there is a parivartana between 11L Mer and asc lord >Mars as well as between 5L Jup (it may be noted that Jup is in rashi >sandhi..so is strong to destroy indications of the houses connected) >and 4L retro Sat. The person has reached the level from an very >ordinary one. So for such rise.. some type of very strong yoga should >be present in the chart, which is not there. > > > > Visti: Jupiter is 5 seconds away from not being in Rasi >sandhi, otherwise its quite strong being in Aqua.. also note the >exchange between Jup and Saturn. The Srimantah Yoga in his lagna is >quite powerful. > > > > 3. Marriage: > > > > In D1, 2nd from UL is aspected by Sun, Mer & Ven. And in D9..2nd >from UL is aspected by Mer, Sun, Ketu & Moon. All are benefetial for >marriage. But he had 4 marriages. His last marriage has also broken. >How 4 marriages can be explained here? > > > > Visti: Look at the Upapada itself. The time period indicated >by the graha lording it can show how long the marriage lasted. > > Upapada is lorded by Jup who is in Marana Karaka Sthana from UL. >Jup lords a month, so a maximum of 12 months (1 year) could have been >the longevity of the marriage. > > 2nd one is indicated by cancer, lorded by Moon.. maximum 1 day i >dare say. > > 3rd is Aqua, here Jup is involved again. > > 4th is Virgo, 5th is aries.. This one looks somewhat stable. He >needs a psychiatrist. > > > > 4. Spirituality: > > > > Mer is AK and 8L/11L. It has parivartana with asc lord Mars. On >1st look..it can be declared.. he would be interested is astrology >and occult science. But he is not.. it is understood he is totally >against concept of religion, god and also very eccentric in his >behaviours. Has it happened due to the fact that Moon is severely >afflicted and Lagna lord Mars is in samasaptaka with Sat? > > > > Visti: In Katha Upanishad, its described that the mind is the >reins between the charioteer and the horses. Whilst the intellect is >the charioteer himself. If one doesn't hold the reins closely tight, >then the chariot is out of control, and the intelligence cannot guide >the native correctly. > > > > Similarly the mind is compared to water. If the waters are >unsteady, then one cannot see the soul beneath the same clearly. > > > > Moon indicates the mind of the native and their attitude towards >life. Rahu is joined Moon, whilst Moon is placed in the 12th house. >His waters are unsteady and the horses are out of control. > > > > 5. Children: > > > > In D7..asc is in even rashi. So counting backward..5th house is >Ta and lord Ven is in female rashi Gem. So 1st issue is a daughter. >Now Ven is retro..so should it not actually give a son? 3rd from Tau >is Pi (again counting backward) has Rahu... so no further issue. > > > > Visti: As i explained in my Saptaamsa lecture in Hyderabad, i >have not seen retrograde planets give opposite effects. Now look >again at the saptamsa lagna. it has ketu so it reverses the order and >5th house shows 1st child. lord is saturn in female rasi, hence 1st >issue is female.. its still retro, but still female. This girl may be >a lesbian. > > > > Please provide us guidance on the same. > > > > Regards > > > > dasgupta > > > Cricket World Cup 2003 News, Views and Match Reports. [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]Send a blank mailTo : -To : Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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