Achyuta Gurukul] Achyuta Gurukul] 16th meeting proceedings, mumbai chapter

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dear Chandrashekharji,

 

thanks for the enlightening analysis. but one thing strikes here.. that jup (2L)

is in rashi sandhi. should he not spoil the chance of accumulation of wealth?

or, parivartana between sat and jup has nulified the effect? i am not very

sure.

 

regarding marriage..what u have told is very correct. it definitely shows

trouble. but the sustainance of marriage is seen from 2nd of UL. in this chart

that indication is not seen.

 

regarding his relocation.. we shall try to get the information.

 

regards

 

dasgupta

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Chandrashekhar

 

Friday, March 14, 2003 12:30 AM

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Dear J.K. Dasgupta,

The chart is definitely an interesting chart. However the most important factor

in the chart is that baring Mars and Moon all other planets are

yogakarakas.Jupiter lord of trine in Quadrant and Saturn vice-a versa plus a

parivartan yoga between them.Sun lord of the 10th in Trine cum Quadrant

Ascendant and Mercury and venus by association with the said Sun.Mars is left

out but is lord of upachaya and Lagna in upachaya. If I remember right Lord of

Lagna in Upachaya specially in 11th strengthens Lagna to a great extent.Again

Lord of Ascendant in Ayabhava specially in parivartana with its Lord indicates

selfmade man and has a sambandha with Trine-cum Quadrant again.Position of

Venus indicates his earnings through women(Actresses here). Again Venus aspects

his 7th its own house. We had recently had a lengthy discussion on efficacy of

Budha-Aditya Yoga on the List. Here is the classic Budha-Aaditya yoga Sun in

3deg 34min and Mercury 24degrees 25minutes or so. I think learned astrologers

would see my point on operation of Budha Aaditya yoga( also known as Nipuna

yoga) in its full glory here.Venus Retrograde, though combust has already told

on his marital life.

About his marriages , if you happen to remember I had , in of one of my posts,

said ,quoting Laghu parashari,that Venus is the most inimical if he owns Kendra

and is not posited in his own sign. Both Venus and saturn aspect his 7th house

so his multiple marriages should not be causing any surprise. i would not be

surprised if they didnot break due to jealosy of wives about his female

associates as Venus is also lord of the 12th.

Again his lord of 9th posited in 12th indicates that he might not either have

Pitrusukha or more likely not get anything from father and would not follow

father's profession.

About progeny, Saturn retro isposited in 5th house(a hermophrodite) and aspects

direct Mars who should have, as you rightly said but in different context,

given a female and male child.But Parivartan with Mercury and 9th house being

house of an afflicted Moon(House of second child) does explain the female

progeny.If one observes Navamsha Mars is in Cancer Navamsha ruled by Moon and

Purtakaraka jupiter in Libra ruled by Venus both Stree grahas.

About his being eccentric the reason is much simpler. Moon debilitated in

Navamsha and afflicted by Rahu(not to mention Dark trayodashi without paksha

bala) is the best customer for eccentric behaviour. I have also seen that this

combo in 12th makes a person not have lasting relationships with members of the

opposite sex though they could be romantic at heart.Again Saturn in 5th also

gives a not very logical approach to problems as they tend to think more with

heart than head.

About his lack of spirutiality, do not be very sure. He might just have diferent

ideas about what is religion. Such people generally have faith in religion but

like to pretend that they are aeithists.They could even believe in tantra or

unorthodox religion .I am certain, if you could ask him, that he would be a bit

superstitious.

Did he relocate around 1955 and start his initial carrear?

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

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j.k. dasgupta

 

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Wednesday, March 12, 2003 12:34 PM

[sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] 16th meeting proceedings, mumbai chapter

Respected Gurus and all learned list members,

 

Our 16th meeting was held on 2.3.03. The same was attended by,

 

1. Anand Sonde

2. Kulkarni (new member)

3. Praveen

4. Sunil John

5. Viswanatham

6. DasguptaWe had discussion on 1 horoscope. The same is attached herewith in

jhl4.1 format. Doubts faced during the discussion are sumerised below in bold

red, for which we look forward for guidance.

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Chart of a TV magnet:

19.11.1938

8:50pm

84W27, 39N09

Tz: 5.00 west of GMT

 

1. Proffession:

 

He is an independent business magnet connected to TV media. His 7H in both D1

and D10 is not that strong. AV strenghts are as follows

 

D1 6H: 28 aspected by Jup (2L & 5L), Sun (10L), Ven (7L & 12L) and Mer (8L &

11L) and also A10

D1 7H: 19 aspected by Rahu & Moon from 12H. Please note that Moon is badhakesh here

D10 6H: 32 with A10 as well as exaulted Rahu in it & aspected by Mer (6L & 9L),

Mars (4L & 11L)..of course Mars is badhakesh here

D10 7H: 27 aspected by Jup (12L & 3L) & Moon (7L)

 

Also in D10, he has Jup & Rahu in artha trikona. only affirmative combination in

D10 is 10L ven is with 8L Sun in 8H with GL

 

With this combination..can his proffession be explained, if it is not known

earlier? it seems that known principles are not working here.

 

2. Wealth, name & fame:

 

The person is world famous and very very wealthy. Here also we see that general

principles are knot showing that kind of wealth and fame. of course there is a

parivartana between 11L Mer and asc lord Mars as well as between 5L Jup (it may

be noted that Jup is in rashi sandhi..so is strong to destroy indications of the

houses connected) and 4L retro Sat. The person has reached the level from an

very ordinary one. So for such rise.. some type of very strong yoga should be

present in the chart, which is not there.

 

3. Marriage:

 

In D1, 2nd from UL is aspected by Sun, Mer & Ven. And in D9..2nd from UL is

aspected by Mer, Sun, Ketu & Moon. All are benefetial for marriage. But he had

4 marriages. His last marriage has also broken. How 4 marriages can be

explained here?

 

4. Spirituality:

 

Mer is AK and 8L/11L. It has parivartana with asc lord Mars. On 1st look..it can

be declared.. he would be interested is astrology and occult science. But he is

not.. it is understood he is totally against concept of religion, god and also

very eccentric in his behaviours. Has it happened due to the fact that Moon is

severely afflicted and Lagna lord Mars is in samasaptaka with Sat?

 

5. Children:

 

In D7..asc is in even rashi. So counting backward..5th house is Ta and lord Ven

is in female rashi Gem. So 1st issue is a daughter. Now Ven is retro..so should

it not actually give a son? 3rd from Tau is Pi (again counting backward) has

Rahu.. so no further issue.

 

 

Please provide us guidance on the same.

 

Regards

 

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dear visti,

 

as usual a fantastic analysis. i have some questions,

 

you wrote:

Visti: Look at the Upapada itself. The time period indicated by the graha

lording it can show how long the marriage lasted.

Upapada is lorded by Jup who is in Marana Karaka Sthana from UL. Jup lords a

month, so a maximum of 12 months (1 year) could have been the longevity of the

marriage. 2nd one is indicated by cancer, lorded by Moon.. maximum 1 day i dare

say.

3rd is Aqua, here Jup is involved again. 4th is Virgo, 5th is aries.. This one

looks somewhat stable. He needs a psychiatrist.

 

doubt:

this is a new concept at least to me. can u please further guide which planet

gives how much longivity. in that way which planet will give a permanent

marriage?

then..in which way the 2nd from UL will contribute to sustanance of a marriage?

 

you wrote:

Visti: As i explained in my Saptaamsa lecture in Hyderabad, i have not seen

retrograde planets give opposite effects. Now look again at the saptamsa lagna.

it has ketu so it reverses the order and 5th house shows 1st child. lord is

saturn in female rasi, hence 1st issue is female.. its still retro, but still

female. This girl may be a lesbian.

 

 

doubt:

yes, we missed the point of ketu being in lagna. but in many cases i have seen

that retro planet gives opposite effect also. is there any way to predict with

surety and in advance, about the sex of the children yet to be born?

 

regards

 

jk

 

 

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Visti Larsen

 

Friday, March 14, 2003 4:30 PM

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Hare Rama Krsna

Dear Jk,

Comments bellow.

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

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j.k. dasgupta

 

Cc: Dr.Ramchandani ; Praveen Kumar ; hmm_aha ; Aparna Joshi ; Nandan

Chakraborty ; Aroona ; Achar, Prashant ; vishwanatham ; Ashwin Hirani ; Anand ;

Sunil John ; tushar narottam kapadia ; Raj Upadhyay ; aparna vedula ; Dr. Sarma

Wednesday, March 12, 2003 8:04 AM

[sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] 16th meeting proceedings, mumbai chapter

Respected Gurus and all learned list members,

 

Our 16th meeting was held on 2.3..03. The same was attended by,

 

1. Anand Sonde

2. Kulkarni (new member)

3. Praveen

4. Sunil John

5. Viswanatham

6. DasguptaWe had discussion on 1 horoscope. The same is attached herewith in

jhl4.1 format. Doubts faced during the discussion are sumerised below in bold

red, for which we look forward for guidance.

===============================================

Chart of a TV magnet:

19.11.1938

8:50pm

84W27, 39N09

Tz: 5.00 west of GMT

 

1. Proffession:

 

He is an independent business magnet connected to TV media. His 7H in both D1

and D10 is not that strong. AV strenghts are as follows

 

D1 6H: 28 aspected by Jup (2L & 5L), Sun (10L), Ven (7L & 12L) and Mer (8L &

11L) and also A10

D1 7H: 19 aspected by Rahu & Moon from 12H. Please note that Moon is badhakesh here

D10 6H: 32 with A10 as well as exaulted Rahu in it & aspected by Mer (6L & 9L),

Mars (4L & 11L)..of course Mars is badhakesh here

D10 7H: 27 aspected by Jup (12L & 3L) & Moon (7L)

 

Also in D10, he has Jup & Rahu in artha trikona. only affirmative combination in

D10 is 10L ven is with 8L Sun in 8H with GL

 

With this combination..can his proffession be explained, if it is not known

earlier? it seems that known principles are not working here.

 

Visti: What does 'connected to tv-media' mean? In his Rasi, the 11th from

Arudha Lagna is aspected by Venus, Sun, Mercury and Jupiter, showing his

gainful sources.

The work he does is seen from Dasamsa, where Jup in 2nd ensures that he has

immense ability to make investments into other companies. 10th being a venusian

sign shows abilities in management and business, especially as Sun & Venus have

rasi dristi on the 10th house.

Rahu in 6th shows work craving alot of thinking, and being in a mercurial sign,

it could mean coming up with ideas to sell commercials.

Theres more to Dasamsa when we look at the deities of the same, you will note

many planets in Brahma-amsa causing a very materialistic angle to work in his

life.

 

2. Wealth, name & fame:

 

The person is world famous and very very wealthy. Here also we see that general

principles are knot showing that kind of wealth and fame. of course there is a

parivartana between 11L Mer and asc lord Mars as well as between 5L Jup (it may

be noted that Jup is in rashi sandhi..so is strong to destroy indications of the

houses connected) and 4L retro Sat. The person has reached the level from an

very ordinary one. So for such rise.. some type of very strong yoga should be

present in the chart, which is not there.

 

Visti: Jupiter is 5 seconds away from not being in Rasi sandhi, otherwise its

quite strong being in Aqua.. also note the exchange between Jup and Saturn. The

Srimantah Yoga in his lagna is quite powerful.

 

3. Marriage:

 

In D1, 2nd from UL is aspected by Sun, Mer & Ven. And in D9..2nd from UL is

aspected by Mer, Sun, Ketu & Moon. All are benefetial for marriage. But he had

4 marriages. His last marriage has also broken. How 4 marriages can be

explained here?

 

Visti: Look at the Upapada itself. The time period indicated by the graha

lording it can show how long the marriage lasted.

Upapada is lorded by Jup who is in Marana Karaka Sthana from UL. Jup lords a

month, so a maximum of 12 months (1 year) could have been the longevity of the

marriage.

2nd one is indicated by cancer, lorded by Moon.. maximum 1 day i dare say.

3rd is Aqua, here Jup is involved again.

4th is Virgo, 5th is aries.. This one looks somewhat stable. He needs a psychiatrist.

 

4. Spirituality:

 

Mer is AK and 8L/11L. It has parivartana with asc lord Mars. On 1st look..it can

be declared.. he would be interested is astrology and occult science. But he is

not.. it is understood he is totally against concept of religion, god and also

very eccentric in his behaviours. Has it happened due to the fact that Moon is

severely afflicted and Lagna lord Mars is in samasaptaka with Sat?

 

Visti: In Katha Upanishad, its described that the mind is the reins between

the charioteer and the horses. Whilst the intellect is the charioteer himself.

If one doesn't hold the reins closely tight, then the chariot is out of

control, and the intelligence cannot guide the native correctly.

 

Similarly the mind is compared to water. If the waters are unsteady, then one

cannot see the soul beneath the same clearly.

 

Moon indicates the mind of the native and their attitude towards life. Rahu is

joined Moon, whilst Moon is placed in the 12th house. His waters are unsteady

and the horses are out of control.

 

5. Children:

 

In D7..asc is in even rashi. So counting backward..5th house is Ta and lord Ven

is in female rashi Gem. So 1st issue is a daughter. Now Ven is retro..so should

it not actually give a son? 3rd from Tau is Pi (again counting backward) has

Rahu... so no further issue.

 

Visti: As i explained in my Saptaamsa lecture in Hyderabad, i have not seen

retrograde planets give opposite effects. Now look again at the saptamsa lagna.

it has ketu so it reverses the order and 5th house shows 1st child. lord is

saturn in female rasi, hence 1st issue is female.. its still retro, but still

female. This girl may be a lesbian.

 

Please provide us guidance on the same.

 

Regards

 

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