[SJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Digest Number 518

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My actualy query was how does one see physical immortality in a chart ? I

presume senior members and Gurus can see death, exact date of death and nature

of death in every chart, so how does one see that in the charts of physical

immortals e.g Ramalinga Swami, another thought could be that since they shift

to another dimension as most spirtualists beleive and say, then on the day they

acheive physical immortality or choose to do the shift, is some kind of event in

terms of longevitiy or death seen in the chart on that day, like for example

Shri Ramalinga Swami did it.

THanks for mentioning the book on Babaji, yes i have read it, did some research

on Babaji when I was in the process of shooting the documentary on Babaji and

the other one on Physical Immortality. In fact at that time I wanted to get in

touch with Yogi Ramiah, would u have the contact details of him pls, one day

when i do the documentary for some other channel maybe or my own ( ha ha), I

would need his contact details. Also in that book on Babaji, birth details were

not mentioned. If i remember correctly when i corresponded with Marshal

Govindhan, infact he didnt have anything on it.

I did meet some people who have met Babaji, but some thoughts of theirs were

contradictory, still it seems the basic belief of physical immortality is

that,(this is what i have learnt from Leonard Orr and others). is that God

created us in the most perfect vision with immortal body, mind and spirit - so

the propogators of physical immortality beleive that true moksha is not reached

until all 3 are mastered/moksha/realised what ever one calls it. Leonard Orr was

to take me throughout india to meet some physical immortals who rarely come out,

one of them Bharatiji, who resides in Sariska forest. Although he never gave

guarantee if Bharatiji would come out in front of camera.

Maybe I read in one of ur posts that most saints they master physical

immortality in other realms, I guess thats why many saints just do the work for

what they came in front of the public and then vanish in other realms ( I guess

Shambala or Siddhasharam ) for more advancement. Well i will go now,

Light and Joy

Sunil John

Dear Sunil, To answer your first question, one of the saints who attained

immortality was Jesus Christ. (After his resurrection and subsequent

disappearance, his body vanished in graveyard - it is a recorded fact, but some

dispute it, from what I understand). I assume you could find his birth data with

some effort. Jesus' resurrection and miracles have been verified through yogic

visions by advanced yogis like Yogananda/Lahiri Mahasaya.On vedic astrology

list I posted the birth details (approximate) of Ramalinga Swami who attained

the same state in 19th century in India. PVRji did a thorough job of blind

chart analysis for that birth data and Chandrasekarji did a good blind chart

analysis aswell. Reg Babaji, some of his birth info is recorded in the book

"Babaji and 18 Siddha Kriya Yoga tradition", but I doubt you will get his

accurate birth time there. However, there is a good discussion of bodily

immortality in that book. Yogi Aurbindo Gosh and Mother also has talked about

bodily immortality and verified many of the experiences in that process stated

by Ramalinga Adigalar in his book - Thiruarutpa. Personally, I dont think

astrology will throw light about the feats of such saints as they have crossed

the karmic boundaries. I have raised similar questions on how to assess

miracles of sages on VA list as part of the blind chart puzzle to PVRji and I

am waiting for his response. Most sages and saints dont dwell into the concept

of bodily immortality for whatever reasons. I dont know whether Patanjali yoga

sutras talk about it, but Patanjali's fellow yogi Thirumoolar, desciple of Sage

Nandi and a great Siddha was the only one to write a very detailed account on

immortality and secrets of yoga sutras that pertain to it in his classic

Thirumanthiram. You can find the english translation of the book if you are

interested. After Thirumanthiram, from what I know it is Thirarutpa of

Ramalinga Adigal which details the process of attaining physical immortality,

but his peoms only account the details that occur during each stage and

indicates the path of compassion and bhakthi for attaining it. It doesnt talk

about tantra and yoga.Some advanced disciples of Babaji (such as Yogi S.A.A.

Ramiah) might be a good living source to get more info in this topic.

Yukteshwar and Yogananda were not the only ones to have live contact with

Babaji - there are many other yogis such as Ramiah but they live a very low

profile life and people are unaware of such yogis.Lahiri Mahasaya was supposed

to have discussed a lot about the concept of immortality to his disciples, but

that material is not easily available. Lahiri Mahasaya has attained most of the

stages in that process and could make himself invisible at will, but he didnt

attain (or choose to attain) the final stage of bodily immortality. One may

have to contact some very advanced disciples in the line of Lahiri Mahasaya for

more information. To answer your second question, I just dont know. I need to

evolve spiritually much more before feeling/understanding such things

:)regards,Siva.

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Dear Sunil,

I read on some website regarding Mahaavtar baba Ji's birth details.It

was given as dates of vedas etc is given.I tried to work on it and I got

the following chart.I will again try to look for that website and see if

I can locate it.How far it is correct is anyones guess.

With regards,

Jagmeet

Attachment: (application/octet-stream) mahaavtar baba ji.jhd [not stored]

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Dear All,

 

A very interesting topic. I am aware of one case of physical

immortality, Shri Goraksh Nathji Maharaj also known as Baba

Gorakhnath, an avatar of Lord Shiva. After searching on the net I

found the following link containing some information. I will try to

get more information and will post it.

 

http://www.amritnath.org/

 

Thanks and Regards,

Shiv

 

, Sunil John <suniljohn_2002>

wrote:

>

> Dear Siva,

> Thanks for your wonderful post. I am not sure if I am deviating

from area of interest of the list, so pls correct me senior members.

> I almost forgot about Jesus, but after his resurrection their has

been some evidence I think that he came down to Kashmir and stayed

their for 17 yrs, but I somehow have forgotten on my research whether

he has attained physical immortality or not.

> I saw ur post on VA list on the chart of Sri Ramalinga Swami - many

thanks for that.

> My actualy query was how does one see physical immortality in a

chart ?

> I presume senior members and Gurus can see death, exact date of

death and nature of death in every chart, so how does one see that in

the charts of physical immortals e.g Ramalinga Swami,

> another thought could be that since they shift to another dimension

as most spirtualists beleive and say, then on the day they acheive

physical immortality or choose to do the shift, is some kind of event

in terms of longevitiy or death seen in the chart on that day, like

for example Shri Ramalinga Swami did it.

> THanks for mentioning the book on Babaji, yes i have read it, did

some research on Babaji when I was in the process of shooting the

documentary on Babaji and the other one on Physical Immortality. In

fact at that time I wanted to get in touch with Yogi Ramiah, would u

have the contact details of him pls, one day when i do the

documentary for some other channel maybe or my own ( ha ha), I would

need his contact details. Also in that book on Babaji, birth details

were not mentioned. If i remember correctly when i corresponded with

Marshal Govindhan, infact he didnt have anything on it.

> I did meet some people who have met Babaji, but some thoughts of

theirs were contradictory, still it seems the basic belief of

physical immortality is that,(this is what i have learnt from Leonard

Orr and others). is that God created us in the most perfect vision

with immortal body, mind and spirit - so the propogators of physical

immortality beleive that true moksha is not reached until all 3 are

mastered/moksha/realised what ever one calls it. Leonard Orr was to

take me throughout india to meet some physical immortals who rarely

come out, one of them Bharatiji, who resides in Sariska forest.

Although he never gave guarantee if Bharatiji would come out in front

of camera.

> Maybe I read in one of ur posts that most saints they master

physical immortality in other realms, I guess thats why many saints

just do the work for what they came in front of the public and then

vanish in other realms ( I guess Shambala or Siddhasharam ) for more

advancement.

> Well i will go now,

> Light and Joy

> Sunil John

>

>

> Dear Sunil,

> To answer your first question, one of the saints who attained

> immortality was Jesus Christ. (After his resurrection and

subsequent

> disappearance, his body vanished in graveyard - it is a recorded

> fact, but some dispute it, from what I understand). I assume you

> could find his birth data with some effort. Jesus' resurrection and

> miracles have been verified through yogic visions by advanced yogis

> like Yogananda/Lahiri Mahasaya.

>

> On vedic astrology list I posted the birth details (approximate) of

> Ramalinga Swami who attained the same state in 19th century in

> India. PVRji did a thorough job of blind chart analysis for that

> birth data and Chandrasekarji did a good blind chart analysis

aswell.

>

> Reg Babaji, some of his birth info is recorded in the

book "Babaji

> and 18 Siddha Kriya Yoga tradition", but I doubt you will get his

> accurate birth time there. However, there is a good discussion of

> bodily immortality in that book. Yogi Aurbindo Gosh and Mother also

> has talked about bodily immortality and verified many of the

> experiences in that process stated by Ramalinga Adigalar in his

> book - Thiruarutpa.

>

> Personally, I dont think astrology will throw light about the

> feats of such saints as they have crossed the karmic boundaries. I

> have raised similar questions on how to assess miracles of sages on

> VA list as part of the blind chart puzzle to PVRji and I am waiting

> for his response. Most sages and saints dont dwell into the concept

> of bodily immortality for whatever reasons. I dont know whether

> Patanjali yoga sutras talk about it, but Patanjali's fellow yogi

> Thirumoolar, desciple of Sage Nandi and a great Siddha was the only

> one to write a very detailed account on immortality and secrets of

> yoga sutras that pertain to it in his classic Thirumanthiram. You

> can find the english translation of the book if you are interested.

> After Thirumanthiram, from what I know it is Thirarutpa of

Ramalinga

> Adigal which details the process of attaining physical immortality,

> but his peoms only account the details that occur during each stage

> and indicates the path of compassion and bhakthi for attaining it.

> It doesnt talk about tantra and yoga.

>

> Some advanced disciples of Babaji (such as Yogi S.A.A. Ramiah)

> might be a good living source to get more info in this topic.

> Yukteshwar and Yogananda were not the only ones to have live

contact

> with Babaji - there are many other yogis such as Ramiah but they

> live a very low profile life and people are unaware of such yogis.

>

> Lahiri Mahasaya was supposed to have discussed a lot about the

> concept of immortality to his disciples, but that material is not

> easily available. Lahiri Mahasaya has attained most of the stages

in

> that process and could make himself invisible at will, but he didnt

> attain (or choose to attain) the final stage of bodily immortality.

> One may have to contact some very advanced disciples in the line of

> Lahiri Mahasaya for more information.

>

> To answer your second question, I just dont know. I need to

evolve

> spiritually much more before feeling/understanding such things

>

> regards,

> Siva.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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