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Dear Karu,

Yes incase of Guru Chandala Yoga, the strength of Sun is vital, as it is also

Karak for the 9th, and will ensure that atleast if the Guru fails, the father

won't.

 

Similarly for Aditya Chandala Yoga, we see strength of Jupiter.

 

I agree on this concept but didn't think it applied to the finding of Paaka Rasi.

 

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Om Namo Gurubrihaspathaye,

 

Dear Visti,

Hare Rama Krsna

Dear Karu,

Rahu must be unable to embody the Paaka (result) Lagna (self)in this example.

Instead we are looking at the exaltation and debilitation signs of Shani.

 

In case of scorpio i assume we do the same for Mars.

Just my thoughts, i didn't feel right about the Aditya-chandala thing.

 

KARU; I read this one of the Gurudeva's mail. Yes, opposite work for

Guru-Chandala yoga, remedy is Ravi.

But carefully, I took only the seed of the concept.When the Sun conjoined Rahu,

strengthening Guru; the graha is reccomended. I will send you if I find it

again.

 

I also need to meditate abit more on this.

 

Karu: Please share if you find it.

Thanks-Karu

 

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Saturday, February 01, 2003 3:56 AM

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Gurudev's Narayana Dasa book example - clarification

Om Namo Gurubrihaspathaye

 

Dear Soundar,

 

In fact, what we trying to find out the Paka lagna. In generally, Paka lagna is

the sign occupied by the lagna lord. How ever I found it is not simple as that,

and many more secrets and techniques are involved with this.

Aruda is the mirror image of native in this world of maya and we know this is

depending on the "DHI" or intelligence of the native.Karaka for Dhi or

intelligence is Jupiter who is natural karaka for 9th.

 

Even I did not seen in practical use of Paka, when we working with Narayana

dasa, we have to understand when and how this paka lagna can be changed and

under what conditions we must apply special affects on it.

For example, when there is Parivatana yoga between lagna lord and another lord

(X), X represent the lord of the lagna. In such a case, do we consider the

paka lagna from X or actual lagna lord ? Which will be the paka rasi and what

will be the starting sub period of Narayana Dasa.? Another rule for choose the

paka lagna, see aspects of Jupiter and Mercury as these two has very special

relationship with intelligence. So when Jupiter comes to the play, we must

think very carefully. (I have copied the mail below in red)

 

Now say all OK. But see the following question.

(Q)Kasturi wrote:

1. How should one determine Paaka Rasi, if Saturn is in Aq alongwith Ketu?

(A)Sanjay Wrote:

1. Determine the stronger sign between Libra & Aries.

 

So choosing paka is not so simple. What could be the reason for this ?

 

I didn't see this topic been discussed. When Aq is lagna with Saturn in it, Rahu

become stronger lord of the lagna. Ruhu is in 7th in Leo, and it is the Paka

lagna. We know that when the Rahu is in kona from paka, so many thing are

changing and one of these applicable to nakshatra dasa. Parasara advice to use

Ashtothari (Venus) for such chart. Nakshatra dasa mainly signify the nature of

the mind or what mind wants. So we must agree to accept the change of Paka and

so Aruda as well.

There is one specific rule in COVA, that Saturn cannot dominate in Leo. In here

too can Rahu influence DHI, when he is in Sun's house ? When ever Aditya

Chandala is present , the remedy is Guru. The Real Guru is Shiva (Sun)who

removed ignorance. So I think DHI is protected here.

Normally 9th from any sign protect the said house and here Sun prefer to change

the paka to Aries, where his exaltation occur. How ever, paka will be the

stronger from Aries and Libra.

 

This is only my understanding and you do not have to agree it unless acceptable

in every single aspects. Me too totally lost in this vast knowledge, flows

every where with current... But I hope Gurudeva will clear this, if it is

wrong.

 

Coming back to your case, we are trying to find out paka rasi of Scorpio. How

ever we have to accept the final results given in the book for now. So Mars is

won and 10 dasa years given by Mars. I can't see any thing wrong if you follow

rules properly. But keep your mind open and please calculate all and every

single figure by your self to find out secrets.

 

I hope this help.

Thanks

Karu.

 

Sanhjay's Notes

Jyotish cannot just be a bunch of rules. There is a finer understanding of these

rules that makes the subject "an art as well as a science". The situation where

"Jupiter is aspecting the nodes" is very different from "Jupiter conjoining the

nodes". Take a situation where a Purohit of a temple is sitting inside a temple

and then he is approached by a murderer (Rahu) for some task. Here Jupiter

(purohit) is in strength in sagittarius (work place) and Rahu has entered

sagittarius. The conjunction of the two makes Jupiter weaker by a polluting

conjunction and then the Purohit is normally coerced to help the criminal.

 

Take another situation where the Purohit was in his house (Pisces) and then he

gets information about some theif (Ketu) breaking into his temple (Ketu in

Sagittarius aspected by Jupiter from Pisces). The result is simple. He takes

preventive measures by calling the police (Mars) or others to prevent the

theft.. the theif is caught and Ketu's exaltation i.e. to steal the idols

itself (untruth of the highest level) is broken.

 

Conjunction cannot strengthen Jupiter. In fact, the sign occupied by the Lord of

Lagna is called the Paka Lagna and if this sign is conjoined Ketu, then

invariably it creates some serious mental aberration or autism etc. The

Dhi-shakti is lost. In this manner try to understand the Guru-Sthana.

With Best Wishes,Sanjay Rath

> Karu:> > that was very interesting, how Ke lost his exaltation due to Ju >

aspect.> > Even otherwise, as per the order given in the book..the next rule is

> degree of Ke and Ma. > > In this case, Ma is higher, after reckoning Ke from

end of sign.> > ( I had included lord of sign being AK, wrongly in the earlier

email. > It says in the book that rule should not be used for ND)> > obviously

there is some reason why this rule was also overlooked.> > The next rule is with

respect to lords. Ju, lord of Odd sign (Sg) in > even sign (Pi) and Me, lord of

Even sign (Vi) in odd sign (Le).> This gives equal strength. > > Obviously there

is only 1 rule left over, that of which lord (of Sc) > gives a longer ND period,

and this rule can never fail for co-lords > (Ma ,Ke) placed in different signs.

> > can you elaborate more on this...thanks> > Soundar > > > --- In

, "Karu" <heen@n...> wrote:> > Om Namo

Gurubrihaspathaye> > > > Dear ?> > > > There are few "source of strength" for

calculate Narayana dasa., > and following rules are recommended.> > 1.Rule 2 of

first source; Conjunction with other planets. (Here > Mars and Ketu are in same

strength)> > 2.Rule 1 of 2nd source;Aspects by Mercury, Jupiter or dispositor >

(again same)> > 3.Rule 3 of first source; exaltation etc.> > This is the case

you are interested I think. This is not specific > rule but, when ever nodes

aspected by Jupiter, specially in this case > the whole story will be

different. > > > > Now see the different between the two signs of Jupiter and >

placement of nodes. When ever Jupiter aspecting such nodes, in his > own sign

specially in thrown (10th) nodes loose their power of > exaltation. Here the

owner of the 10th house is aspecting his office. > There are more to this

special specific rules and you will surely > catch them by the time.> > > >

Having found still the strength of Ketu and Mars are same, you can > go to next

rule now.> > > > Hope this help.> > Karu> > > > > > > > > As per the rules,

since both lords are outside of Sc the rules > for > > > determining the

stronger lord is used. > > > > > > 1. Both are alone -> > > > > > 2. Both are

aspected by Ju - > > > > > > 3. Ke is exalted in Sg - Ke is stronger. > > > >

> > However there is a jump to the last step (8, below) of findng > out, by > >

> which planet gives a longer period. This is Ma (Sc in Vimsapada- > > >

zodiacal count). > > > > > > can someone exlain why the other steps were

skipped along with > step 3 > > > above. The other steps are > > > > > > 4.

Dual > Fixed > Movable> > > 5. sign whose lord id AK> > > 6. Degree of Ke and

Ma> > > 7. Even sign lord in Male sign or viceversa > > > 8. sign giving higher

ND period.> > >

 

 

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